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The last time Stipe and JDS fought, it was a close fight.

Some people thought Stipe won, even though judges gave JDS the win.

Stipe Miocic seems to have improved since then. His skill and athleticism are better now.

On the flipside JDS seems to have regressed. He's not as good as he used to be.

I think Stipe will win.

Dos Santos is surely past his best now after all those years, I have to think Miocic will defend his belt. I mean sure anything can happen but Miocic has to be the favourite.

Oh for sure.  It's a no brainer Stipe Miocic bet the only question now is where can you get value?  I can see a Miocic line opening at 1.50 and then continue to go lower.  Maybe some props would be better.  Does anyone know if 5 Dimes still accepts BTC?  They have the best prop bets in the business.

It is a really good title fight and a rematch between Stipe Miocic and Junior dos Santos as both fighters are good strikers and so we would see a good battle as both should not be worried about getting down and the only worry is how the condition of Junior dos Santos is after all the injuries he has sustained throughout his fighting career.

doesn't dos Santos have some sort of brain damage?  I don't know if it's just a rumor or something but a friend mentioned it once and I just kinda took it with a grain of salt.

JDS doesn't have brain damage.
But it was confirmed he got a medical condition called rhabdomyolysis sometime around his 2nd fight with Cain Velasquez.
There are plenty of articles about it on MMA news sites.

I think we can all agree that JDS has seen his best days. He may still be able to dominate other fighters but not in the level of stipe. There was a time when i thought JDS probably was the best striker and i'd put all my money on him. That was before Cain Velazquez. but i don't think he's still the same fighter now.

I think Junior Dos Santos is past his prime so is Fabricio Werdum, they have recieved too many hits to he head and need to retire. Miocic has improved a lot in the past years in his technique, his genetics make him a total beast, he will be a thought match an I think he will win JDS and continue reining the division with an Overeem that is also past his prime and definitely can't fight without steroids at top level.

The heavy weight division is filled with people who are really old,the average age is above 35 years and in the future if they could not find any real talents then it will be a boring division and that will be the case with light heavy weight division too as some of the top fighters have moved on to Bellator and with the retirement of Anthony Johnson the division has become shallow.

I think Stefan "Skyscraper" Struve can become a dominant force in the heavyweight UFC division. He has insane height, reach, and power, he needs to put work in his technique to use physical superiority over the rest, otherwise he will be a useless lanky easy target.

Stefan Struve is a young fighter but the miles he had in combat competition is really huge,he has insane height and have a reach advantage and that can be compared only by Jon Jones who have exactly the same reach and if he is able to use his reach advantage like Jon Jones then he will be a great fighter,but he is having some medical conditions which is forcing him to sit out.Francis Ngannou will have a good future if he is able to improve his game.

I would like to see Jon Jones fight without his insanely big advantage of always having the longest reach. If he wasn't for the reach he would not be undefeated. Unfortunately I think at a technical level Struve is too far from Jon Jones, but if Cormier had Jon Jones reach he would get a beating easily.

Judging from line movement alone, are the sharps seeing something that we can't?  Dos Santos' line opened at around 2.75 the moment betting was available then it moved to 2.45 the following weeks and now it's down to around 2.05 at Nitrogen.  Has he really improved?  I don't follow the HW division much.

I think Stefan "Skyscraper" Struve can become a dominant force in the heavyweight UFC division. He has insane height, reach, and power, he needs to put work in his technique to use physical superiority over the rest, otherwise he will be a useless lanky easy target.

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its almost the same kinda match up as jacare vs whittaker where i had whittaker the striker but masvidal is not as fast or as strong as whitatker thats why i like maia the grappler in this one in this one

the only good prospect at HW is Francis Ngannou prob will be champ soon


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Francis Ngannou is a solid competitor but he hasn't shown yet enough to become a champion imo, but yeah, considering Daniel Cormier will ignore anyone that isn't Jon Bones Jones at this point since he has beaten everyone else, Francis has no shot against the best HW fighters. The best fight I can see in his portfolio is beating an out of prime Arlovski.

I'm also eager to watch  Frankie Edgar vs. Yair Rodriguez.

Miocic vs Dos Santos for me is a good fight and it can go either way. Maybe Junior Dos Santos has been in so many fights, but I still believed he still have some in this tank. Although Miocic has improved a lot, Junior Dos Santos I believed some something to proved that he still got it. My bet JDS.

I'm also eager to watch  Frankie Edgar vs. Yair Rodriguez. Yair is one of  the rising star in the UFC but I think I have to go with Frankie Edgar here. Frankie is still a legend for me and I love watching his in and out movement. This fight will end in a decision, but this time it is Frankie's hand who is gonna be raised. My bet Frankie Edgar.

Would you make a bet for JDS at these present odds given? They look very low now especially if you saw how high they were when the betting opened.

Is anyone tuning in to watch Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko?

I haven't watched boxing in a long time. Who do people see as winning that fight?

Wladimir is a decent underdog, possibly due to him not doing well against Tyson Fury.

I've never heard of Anthony Joshua or seen him fight before today.

@Hydrogen. Boxing is dead. The sport has already made it past the silver age and the golden age and has already been declining since the early 2000s. After the days of fighters like Pretty Boy Floyd or Manny Pacquiao I do not know any charismatic boxer anymore.

I'm excited to see that one as well.
I think Yair could pull an upset. A lot of younger names are defeating the older more established fighters in the UFC.
If Frankie Edgar can't get the fight to the ground, I think Yair will beat him.

You should have watched the fight. Wladimir Klitschko vs Anthony Joshua revived the good times of heavyweight boxing that night. It was a more exciting fight than most of the boring UFC fights i've seen lately. Haters have been claiming boxing is dead for a long time just like they claim BTC is dead, but it's always there and always comes back.

Yair Rodríguez is a up coming talent and his fight against Frankie Edgar will determine whether he is ready for the title as it is not that easy to defeat the future hall of fame fighter and it is not that easy to defeat him even on the feet.I really think that his experience in the fight game will give an advantage to Frankie Edgar and if Yair could defeat Frankie then he will be having his title shot next.

I do accept the fact that the fight between Wladimir Klitschko and Joshua was a classic one and it was a break out performance from Joshua as this fight elevated him to super stardom and it is true that we are not seeing some interesting matches in the boxing scene, being a boxing fan it is always great to see good fights and we would like to see some good fights,UFC is becoming a spectacle now a days as people are fighting for the belt right away after a long break of four years and so on,it will undermine the legitimacy of the entire structure.

Just look at what happened at the Ronda Rousey fight, she came back after her defeat with Holm, then got destroye again for the title fight. It was ridiculous and a shitshow. Indeed those fights make the UFC feel like WWE. But at least they give us the fights that people want to see. The HW boxing division has been a mess for the past few years, we didn't got the fights we wanted, and Klitschko brothers were too dominant anyway. It was not until we got other skilled fighters with a good reach that we started seeing better fights. They just had too much advantage due their height + skill.

Just look at what happened at the Ronda Rousey fight, she came back after her defeat with Holm, then got destroye again for the title fight. It was ridiculous and a shitshow. Indeed those fights make the UFC feel like WWE. But at least they give us the fights that people want to see. The HW boxing division has been a mess for the past few years, we didn't got the fights we wanted, and Klitschko brothers were too dominant anyway. It was not until we got other skilled fighters with a good reach that we started seeing better fights. They just had too much advantage due their height + skill.

Miocic is in better form, and he will beat dos Santos with  KO  :)

Let us not compare Ronda Rousey against the Klitschko brothers,look at the age of Wladimir Klitschko he is 41 years of age and a lot of boxing under his belt and if this fight was five years back i am sure the result would be different.Getting punched in the face for this long is not a good thing and reflex will deter with age,Klitschko brothers dominated world boxing and they defeated everyone in their prime and let us see how Anthony Joshua will perform after 40 plus fights.

Im not comparing Ronda to Klitschko , im just pointing out at how stupid the UFC is when they give people that are obviously overrated and living from former fights, straight title shots. After being beaten by Holm in such spectacular fashion, Ronda didn't have the right to demand a title fight straight away. But since Ronda is a cash cow, they gave her a title fight, and now her career is over.
If shes back, there's no way she can ever come back and fight for a fight title without beating some people up first.

If shes back, there's no way she can ever come back and fight for a fight title without beating some people up first.

This is what I'm thinking.  The problem now is what to bet on.  The under 1.5 rounds at 2.41 on Nitrogen?  I don't think it's giving us enough value to make the bet worth it.  I'd start putting some BTC on that starting at 3.00 and above.

I wonder what the other bookies are laying on the over/under.  Any suggestions?  Looking for bets on under 2.5 rounds and 3.5 rounds for Miocic vs Dos Santos with decent odds.  

I think most people are expecting JDS to fight moving backwards, like he did when he fought Ben Rothwell, Cain Velasquez and Mark Hunt.

If JDS is moving away from Stipe the whole fight, it will likely be harder for one of them to land a knockout punch.

The fight will probably go on longer if JDS avoids standing toe to toe with Stipe. Heavyweights usually tire quickly. If they don't get a KO in the first 1-2 rounds, they're usually too tired to get it in the 3rd, 4th or 5th rounds. Especially if there's lots of wrestling and grappling.

1.5 odds could be too low. Should probably be 2.5 or 3.5.

I think most people are expecting JDS to fight moving backwards, like he did when he fought Ben Rothwell, Cain Velasquez and Mark Hunt.
If JDS is moving away from Stipe the whole fight, it will likely be harder for one of them to land a knockout punch.
The fight will probably go on longer if JDS avoids standing toe to toe with Stipe. Heavyweights usually tire quickly. If they don't get a KO in the first 1-2 rounds, they're usually too tired to get it in the 3rd, 4th or 5th rounds. Especially if there's lots of wrestling and grappling.
1.5 odds could be too low. Should probably be 2.5 or 3.5.

I think we will see JDS playing a defensive game, trying to lure Stipe into his trap, then he will rush to him and take it to the ground and try to break his arm or something. JDS is brutal if he catches you. Stipe can ground and pound and that's all, his ground game is not as good, but the dude is huge so it will be hard to keep him down, his striking is also sharp. Thought day of work for JDS.

One thing is certain ,that we will be seeing a good fight.I don't see Miocic knocking out Junior Dos Santos and Miocic tried his best on knocking him down in the first fight and both fighters are really powerful .I think both will be having a careful approach and fight plan and the fighter with the best condition will win the fight ,and the first fight between Dos Santo brought the best in Miocic as he became a better fighter after that loss,i really hope Dos Santos is injury free and if so it will be another war.

One thing is clear, Stipe Miocic is going to have hte better odds for sure, so if you want to make big money you must trust that Dos Santos delivers a great night and manages to knock out or submit homi. I remember when he got beaten by the Skycraper but he was so shit back then, look at this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9cDFQY1uBo

Damn, that dude is just huge. But he was really bad, I think Stipe would have no problems winning against him again nowadays. But if guys that big get good and skilled, they are unstoppable.

I think Stefan Struve was a better fighter back then, before Mark Hunt broke his jaw and Struve had that life threatening heart surgery.

Stipe's boxing improved a lot since then, too.

UFC posted the first Stipe vs JDS fight on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=damAR771hok

Watching it now. 

I think Stipe may suffer from some sort of heart disease, probably gigantism or something like that. I remember Big Foot Silva laos had something like that. It's just insane how big the dude is, that cannot be healthy lol.
Stipe is too lanky due his big joins, but if he can control it and know how to take advantage of it he can be a nightmare for any fighter due his insane reach advantage. He just needs to know how to jab to frustrate opponents and know how to run from takedowns.

115 lbs.: Jessica Aguilar vs. Cortney Casey

Jessica Aguilar (19-5) came back from her controversial loss to Zoila Frausto in Bellator to win 10 straight, including a decision against Carla Esparza and two decisions over the legendary Megumi Fujii. That pedigree wasn’t enough to save her from Claudia Gadelha, who overpowered “Jag” in the latter’s UFC debut.
This will be her first fight since Oct. 2015 thanks to a torn ACL.
Cortney Casey (6-4) came up short in her first two UFC bouts against Joanne Calderwood and Seo Hee Ham, winning “Fight of the Night” both times, but showed dramatic improvement in dominant wins over Cristina Stanciu and Randa Markos. This set up a fight with Gadelha, who delighted the Brazilian crowd while handing Casey her third UFC defeat.
She will have three inches of height and four inches of reach on Aguilar.
This fight boils entirely down to how much the layoff affects Aguilar. Casey has parlayed her size, strength and mean streak into some solid performances, but the wrestling and experience disparities are just too much for her present skillset to overcome. Heck, Aguilar first fought Fujii a year before Casey’s professional debut.
Casey doesn’t have enough to fall back on when Plan A (physically overpowering Aguilar) inevitably goes south. Aguilar out-grapples her on the way to her first UFC victory.
Prediction: Aguilar def. Casey via unanimous decision

145 lbs.: Jared Gordon vs. Michel Quinones

Jared “Flash” Gordon (12-1) — though not the SAVIOR OF THE UNIVERSE — rebounded from his first career loss to Jeff Lentz by winning the CFFC Featherweight title. In his first defense, he impressed Dana White and Co. enough to be the latest “Lookin’ for a Fight” acquisition.
He has knocked out five opponents and submitted another two.
A striker out of American Top Team, Michel Quinones (8-1) knocked out three consecutive opponents in the first round, including The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 22 competitor Billy Quarantillo, to earn a call up to Titan FC. There, he picked up just his second decision win over previously unbeaten Caio Uruguai.
He was originally set to debut in February against Alexander Volkanovski before suffering an injury.
There’s not much out there on Gordon save highlights, but thankfully, Fight Pass has Quinones’ last fight. “El Capo” is an aggressive, powerful striker with a tricky left leg, but has a tendency to rush forward when attacking in combination and open himself up to counters. What I can piece together of Gordon suggests a strong wrestler with pop in his hands.
While they’re both solid, Gordon gets my tentative nod. He looks capable on the counter and — though Quinones’ takedown defense looked stout — those charges are just begging for a well-timed double-leg takedown. Gordon mixes striking and takedowns for a decision win.
Prediction: Gordon via unanimous decision

265 lbs.: Chase Sherman vs. Rashad Coulter

Chase Sherman (9-3) entered UFC with nine first-round knockouts in 10 fights, the sole loss coming to current UFC competitor Alex Nicholson. He has struggled to recreate that success in UFC, dropping a wide decision to Justin Ledet in his debut and suffering a knockout to fellow physical specimen Walt Harris in January.
At 6’4”, he stands five inches taller than Rashad Coulter (8-1).
Coulter enters UFC having won five straight, all of them in the first round under solid banners like Bellator and Legacy FC. His last two fights have ended in a combined 1:49 and none of the five lasted more than three minutes. Like Sherman, all of Coulter’s wins have come by form of knockout.
I’m going to be honest: Aside from about 10 seconds from AXS TV’s post-show recaps, I can’t find any recent footage of Coulter. I do, however, know that he’s fought at Light Heavyweight before and his weight tends to fluctuate dramatically, which suggests he’s carrying unnecessary fat. Sherman may be technically limited, but he’s a 240-pound beast.
Both guys are coming in on short notice, adding another layer of intrigue. Accepting that the lack of fight tape makes this a shot in the dark, I say Sherman ends the slugfest partway through the first.
Prediction: Sherman via first-round technical knockout

145 lbs.: Gabriel Benitezvs. Enrique Barzola

Gabriel Benitez (19-5) — who defeated Diego Rivas on the inaugural TUF: “Latin America” season — won his first two UFC bouts before suffering a career-first loss to Andre Fili at UFC Fight Night 78. Ten months later, “Moggly” returned to action and choked out Sam Sicilia in Hidalgo for his fifth win in six fights.
Ten of his 19 professional wins have come by submission, including four by guillotine choke.
Enrique Barzola (12-3-1) — lived up to his nickname on TUF: “Latin America” 2, beating Jonathan Ortega and Cesar Arzamendia before dominating Horacio Guitierrez at the Finale. After a questionable loss to Kyle Bochniak, Barzola cruised past Chris Avila in Mexico City last November.
His wins are split evenly between knockouts, submissions and decisions.
It’s been nice to see TUF: “Latin American” fighters find success after being brushed aside as novelties. Benitez has proven a very effective striker and Barzola is much more well-rounded than one would expect considering the limited training opportunities he had early in his career.
That well-roundedness has me picking the Peruvian. He can hold his own on the feet and blends his wrestling with his striking quite well. The threat of the takedown should muzzle Benitez’s usual kicking onslaught and Barzola has the cardio to grapple all night. He outworks Benitez to a clear decision win.
Prediction: Barzola via unanimous decision

205 lbs.: Gadzhimurad Antigulov vs. Joachim Christensen

Gadzhimurad Antigulov (19-4) put a three-fight losing streak behind him with 12 consecutive victories, all but one by knockout or submission. This set up a UFC debut against Marcos Rogerio de Lima, whom Antigulov overpowered for a bonus-winning guillotine choke in 67 seconds.
He has stopped 16 opponents in the first round, including seven in less than one minute.
Joachim Christensen (14-4) saw his five-fight win streak come to an end in his UFC debut when Luis “Frankenstein” recovered from a nasty knee to submit him in the second. Three months later, he returned to action and knocked out Bojan Mihajlovic with a lovely uppercut midway through the third.
At 6’3”, he is four inches taller than Antigulov.
Antigulov is a natural Middleweight who makes up for his physical disadvantages with freakish aggression. It’s not a sustainable style, nor one that will continue to work once he starts to scratch the top of the division, but it makes him must-watch TV against those below the 205-pound median.
Christensen has power and solid striking skills. And if the fight goes past the first, it’s his for the taking. Sadly, he has not demonstrated the takedown defense necessary to turn aside Antigulov’s initial rush. Antigulov downs him early and locks up something ugly in transition.
Prediction: Antigulov via first-round submission

^ Interesting breakdowns.  Can you tell us point by point why you disagree with some of them?  It might prove valuable from a betting standpoint.

I saw the Overeem vs Miocic fight again recently and he looked great, but Overeem was just too sloppy, and he still managed to catch him a couple of times.

If Dos Santos has a good night he has serious opportunities to defeat Stipe. I may not even bet on this fight because I can't decide on the outcome.

Watch the weigh ins and the face offs.  I think between the Polish girl, JJ and Jessica Andrade, the former has the psychological edge.  I was gonna add a bet on Andrade but I changed my mind.
Another thing is Yair Rodriguez.  I hate it when a fighter acts like his upcoming bout is a walk in the park.  It could mean he's not mentally ready to take on his opponent.  Michelle Waterson did this, and in interviews she was acting like the win was already in the bag and was already thinking 'title shot'.

Frankie Edgar beat the crap out of Yair Rodriguez and i really feel bad for him to take this fight because he was not ready to face a warrior like Edgar and this loss could stop the momentum of Rodriguez and the swelling he had in his eyes was horrifying.

Miocic just knocked JDS cold in the first round and it looks like the belt is staying with him for a long time.

Junior dos Santos looks too old for me. Why do he keep on going on the fence? Now, the champion has more than adequate proof that he has become the best fighter in the division with this win. I think the Heavy Weight division is not pretty stack up, so i guess Stipe could be the champion for a long time. Fabricio Werdum and Alistair Overeem will square it off in UFC 2013, this could determine who he sees next, but he has already beaten both.

I think this should be it for jds. I agree that watching him, he's a bit too sluggish being a fan, it pains me see him get beat like that. and yeah the heavyweight division isn't that exciting anymore compared to the prime of jds, cain and even brock. perhaps randy couture  would consider coming back again LOL

UFC never had a dominant champion in the heavy weight division in their history ,the only division they always had exciting fighters was the light heavyweight division,as they had dominant and exciting fighters,Miocic is too good and he has improved a lot,JDS lost this match does not mean that it is time for him to call it quits as he is young compared to the other fighters. If you are looking for an exciting fighter in the heavy weight division look out for Francis Ngannou.

I am yet to watch all the fights as the telecast i was watching was interrupted many times,Dos Santos came with a good game plan as he was kicking the legs of Miocic real hard and it looked like Miocic was hurt and i really thought that JDS will win the fight but Miocic started connecting really well and knocked him out with a beautiful right hand in the first round.
Poor Yair Rodriguez got his ass kicked real bad by Frankie,it was a brutal fight and i want to see how this loss will affect his future fights.

I am yet to watch all the fights as the telecast i was watching was interrupted many times,Dos Santos came with a good game plan as he was kicking the legs of Miocic real hard and it looked like Miocic was hurt and i really thought that JDS will win the fight but Miocic started connecting really well and knocked him out with a beautiful right hand in the first round.
Poor Yair Rodriguez got his ass kicked real bad by Frankie,it was a brutal fight and i want to see how this loss will affect his future fights.

@bbc.reporter are you serious, a fighter who was able to defend the belt twice is considered the greatest fighter of all time. Let him start winning some fights and let him stay healthy for a couple of months and lets decide whether he can be considered the best in the world,Fabrício Werdum had a real chance to be considered the best fighter as he has defeated every fighter and look at his resume .

@bbc.reporter the real petty sight of UFC heavy weight division is that no one was able to establish dominance over anyone for a longer period of time and you cannot consider yourself the best by winning just two fights in a row.Why i said to look at Werdum's resume is he defeated Fedor Emelianenko who is the greatest fighter of all time,defeated TRT Big Foot Silva who was really dangerous back then and then Cain Velasquez. If Stipe Miocic could defeat Cain then he wont be having much of a challenge in the division,i am looking for Francis Ngannou and i am interested to see who he will be facing next.

Actually, a Miocic vs Velasquez fight wouldn't be that bad at all.  And if Miocic does win that, that would bring his stock up the roof.  I can already see the media having a good time hyping Miocic up as potentially one of the greatest in UFC HW.  Rightly so.  I mean who else in the modern UFC era has beaten all the highly rated in the HW division?  (Assuming he already beat Velasquez).

I believed that Miocic vs Velasquez fight will really tell who is the most dominant HW fighter now. But I don't know what happen to Cain now, is he still injured or just enjoying father time? I hope he came back because I think he is still in the height of his career. I still remember his workrate fighting JDS and how he destroy him. But it Stipe Miocic time to shine now unless Cain comeback and spoils it.

@bbc.reporter the reason people will start talking about that after defeating Cain is simply because the heavyweight division never had a great fighter who could impose their will and dominate the entire division, for me Cain is a great fighter but is he the greatest fighter,hell no and look at the age of Werdum when he got knocked out cold,the entire division is not getting younger,that being said Miocic is a really good fighter and with the confidence and the momentum he has he could be the best heavyweight of all time if he could perform like this for a couple of years.