UFC 211: Miocic vs Dos Santos info and Prediction Thread

[krach]

Hey guys this is going to be a great card!

For the two main events I am going with both underdogs and the over 1.5 / over 3.5
JDS win - over 1.5 rounds and Andrage win - over 3.5 rounds
Here I wrote a breakdown of my picks:
https://degenbet.com/ufc-211-betting-picks/


In this video we discuss those and some more fights.
You can get different viewpoints from Vix and Philip who joined me in the discussion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV6OWzGAPOc&feature=youtu.be

If you would like to get more picks then send me PM about joining my private picks channel

[Hydrogen]

^ Interesting breakdowns.  Can you tell us point by point why you disagree with some of them?  It might prove valuable from a betting standpoint.

I could see Gabriel Benitez and Jessica Aguilar winning their fights. Mmamania could be wrong on those two calls. Benitez is a good fighter training out of a good gym at American Kickboxing Academy. I don't know if Enrique Barzola has the same kind of team or training partners if he's still living Peru. Aguilar is getting up there in age but she could win her fight off of likely having better coaches and a better team than Cortney Casey does.

Not certain about the other breakdowns, I've never seen any of the new people fight before.

[eaLiTy]

@ krach JDS is a good pick and the heavy weight division never had a champion who could defend the belt more than twice in the history of UFC,so it is  a possibility as both are good at striking .
One fight is called off from this card Sergio Pettis vs Henry Cejudo which i thought was an easy pick got shelved because Henry Cejudo suffered an injury and he pulled out of the fight,hope we wont see more fights getting cancelled.

[tokeweed]

Hey krach nice to see you back. 

Since you already made your picks, you can start watching these videos now for entertainment value and to get more pumped for the event.  I hope the main event lives up to the hype.

Another Dan Hardy breakdown.  These are always very informative.  Watch iiiit!

UFC 211: Inside the Octagon - Joanna Jedrzejczyk vs Jessica Andrade
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h717X-Bj_MU

Here are episodes two and three of UFC Embedded.  Enjoy! 

UFC 211 Embedded Episode 2
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q-0V9Ev5D24

UFC 211 Embedded Episode 3
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2j6RT3CDIMw

[pereira4]

I saw the Overeem vs Miocic fight again recently and he looked great, but Overeem was just too sloppy, and he still managed to catch him a couple of times.

If Dos Santos has a good night he has serious opportunities to defeat Stipe. I may not even bet on this fight because I can't decide on the outcome.

[Hydrogen]

I saw the Overeem vs Miocic fight again recently and he looked great, but Overeem was just too sloppy, and he still managed to catch him a couple of times.

If Dos Santos has a good night he has serious opportunities to defeat Stipe. I may not even bet on this fight because I can't decide on the outcome.

That's how I see it, too. I have JDS winning. Stipe is a tough guy and a good athlete. It could be a close fight. But right now JDS looks to have the advantage.

Andrade vs Joanna, Alvarez vs Poirier and a lot of the fights on the card could be very close as well.

Tough to pick a winner.

[tokeweed]

Watch the weigh ins and the face offs.  I think between the Polish girl, JJ and Jessica Andrade, the former has the psychological edge.  I was gonna add a bet on Andrade but I changed my mind.

Another thing is Yair Rodriguez.  I hate it when a fighter acts like his upcoming bout is a walk in the park.  It could mean he's not mentally ready to take on his opponent.  Michelle Waterson did this, and in interviews she was acting like the win was already in the bag and was already thinking 'title shot'.

UFC 211:  Official Weigh-ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkQpfgclruo

Stipe Miocic (246) vs. Junior dos Santos (245)
Joanna Jedrzejczyk (115) vs. Jessica Andrade (114.5)
Demian Maia (170.5) vs. Jorge Masvidal (171)
Frankie Edgar (145.5) vs. Yair Rodriguez (146)
David Branch (185) vs. Krzysztof Jotko (185)
Eddie Alvarez (156) vs. Dustin Poirier (156)
Chas Skelly (146) vs. Jason Knight (146)
Jared Gordon (Scratched) vs. Michel Quinones (145.5)
Marco Polo Reyes (154) vs. James Vick (156)
Jessica Aguilar (115) vs. Cortney Casey (116)
Chase Sherman (250) vs. Rashad Coulter (241)
Gabriel Benitez (145.5) vs. Enrique Barzola (146)
Joachim Christensen (204.5) vs. Gadzhimurad Antigulov (204)

[eaLiTy]

Watch the weigh ins and the face offs.  I think between the Polish girl, JJ and Jessica Andrade, the former has the psychological edge.  I was gonna add a bet on Andrade but I changed my mind.
Another thing is Yair Rodriguez.  I hate it when a fighter acts like his upcoming bout is a walk in the park.  It could mean he's not mentally ready to take on his opponent.  Michelle Waterson did this, and in interviews she was acting like the win was already in the bag and was already thinking 'title shot'.

The confidence of Yair Rodriguez is at an all time high after he destroyed B.J. Penn and he is a young kid and has a good promising future ,i like his unorthodox fighting style and even i think it is too early for him to face Frankie Edgar and he really thinks it is an easy fight with the way he delivers his interviews.I am wagging my bet on Frankie Edgar to win the match .

[Clement Kaliyar]

Frankie Edgar beat the crap out of Yair Rodriguez and i really feel bad for him to take this fight because he was not ready to face a warrior like Edgar and this loss could stop the momentum of Rodriguez and the swelling he had in his eyes was horrifying. Miocic just knocked JDS cold in the first round and it looks like the belt is staying with him for a long time.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

Everyone expected a five round brawl like the first fight and no one expected this to be a short fight and it is a real validation that he is the best heavyweight and could knock anyone out and i would really like to see him fight Cain Velasquez and i would like to see how he matches up with a wrestling based fighter.

[eaLiTy]

I am yet to watch all the fights as the telecast i was watching was interrupted many times,Dos Santos came with a good game plan as he was kicking the legs of Miocic real hard and it looked like Miocic was hurt and i really thought that JDS will win the fight but Miocic started connecting really well and knocked him out with a beautiful right hand in the first round.
Poor Yair Rodriguez got his ass kicked real bad by Frankie,it was a brutal fight and i want to see how this loss will affect his future fights.

[tokeweed]

Frankie Edgar beat the crap out of Yair Rodriguez and i really feel bad for him to take this fight because he was not ready to face a warrior like Edgar and this loss could stop the momentum of Rodriguez and the swelling he had in his eyes was horrifying.

Rofl.  Yup.  After what Edgar has done to his face, I think he'll have to take a break away from fighting for a while.  He isn't ready for the top guys yet.  Lost my bet on this one.

Miocic just knocked JDS cold in the first round and it looks like the belt is staying with him for a long time.

I was 50/50 on this one.  At one point I felt that exact outcome would happen.

[joshy23]

Junior dos Santos looks too old for me. Why do he keep on going on the fence? Now, the champion has more than adequate proof that he has become the best fighter in the division with this win. I think the Heavy Weight division is not pretty stack up, so i guess Stipe could be the champion for a long time. Fabricio Werdum and Alistair Overeem will square it off in UFC 2013, this could determine who he sees next, but he has already beaten both.

[gabmen]

Junior dos Santos looks too old for me. Why do he keep on going on the fence? Now, the champion has more than adequate proof that he has become the best fighter in the division with this win. I think the Heavy Weight division is not pretty stack up, so i guess Stipe could be the champion for a long time. Fabricio Werdum and Alistair Overeem will square it off in UFC 2013, this could determine who he sees next, but he has already beaten both.

I think this should be it for jds. I agree that watching him, he's a bit too sluggish being a fan, it pains me see him get beat like that. and yeah the heavyweight division isn't that exciting anymore compared to the prime of jds, cain and even brock. perhaps randy couture  would consider coming back again LOL

[eaLiTy]

I think this should be it for jds. I agree that watching him, he's a bit too sluggish being a fan, it pains me see him get beat like that. and yeah the heavyweight division isn't that exciting anymore compared to the prime of jds, cain and even brock. perhaps randy couture  would consider coming back again LOL

UFC never had a dominant champion in the heavy weight division in their history ,the only division they always had exciting fighters was the light heavyweight division,as they had dominant and exciting fighters,Miocic is too good and he has improved a lot,JDS lost this match does not mean that it is time for him to call it quits as he is young compared to the other fighters. If you are looking for an exciting fighter in the heavy weight division look out for Francis Ngannou.

[peter0425]

I think this should be it for jds. I agree that watching him, he's a bit too sluggish being a fan, it pains me see him get beat like that. and yeah the heavyweight division isn't that exciting anymore compared to the prime of jds, cain and even brock. perhaps randy couture  would consider coming back again LOL

UFC never had a dominant champion in the heavy weight division in their history ,the only division they always had exciting fighters was the light heavyweight division,as they had dominant and exciting fighters,Miocic is too good and he has improved a lot,JDS lost this match does not mean that it is time for him to call it quits as he is young compared to the other fighters. If you are looking for an exciting fighter in the heavy weight division look out for Francis Ngannou.

JDS is too proud of a Brazilian. I don't think he will quit just like that. He will still continue to fight on until he don't have it anymore. Look at the Noguiera twins, they are still at it, fighting and hoping to get a crack at the belt. Miocic did improved a lot I think he has the longest defense so far in the Heavyweight division. He's future look bright really, until someone will come along.

[Kemarit]

Damn! My boy JDS has lost it already. Time for him to hang up and forgot all about fighting. I think it will be better if he will just work from behind like a coach or mentor. Miocic is a different animal and I agree, he has improved a lot already.

As far as Yair is concern, he needs to have a tune up fight to bring back his confidence level after the beating he got. And just want I have predicted, my boy Frankie is too much for him. I still believed that Frankie Edgar beat Jose Aldo in their fight. He will still remained as one of my all time favorite fighter.

[Baofeng]

I am yet to watch all the fights as the telecast i was watching was interrupted many times,Dos Santos came with a good game plan as he was kicking the legs of Miocic real hard and it looked like Miocic was hurt and i really thought that JDS will win the fight but Miocic started connecting really well and knocked him out with a beautiful right hand in the first round.
Poor Yair Rodriguez got his ass kicked real bad by Frankie,it was a brutal fight and i want to see how this loss will affect his future fights.

What a performance by Edgar. It was a total domination. Rodriguez didn't know what to do. He took Yair's back and throw elbows after elbows. That cause Rodriguez eye to swell. Yair will have nightmares of Frankie Edgar. While Miocic performance is expressive as well. Congrats to both.

[Hydrogen]

This card crushed me.    I was wrong on almost every fight. Good night of fights. Some match ups were so close it was difficult to tell who won the fight and who lost. I don't remember if the cage was the smaller one. The UFC has a big cage and a small cage. It seemed like a small cage with how often Gabriel Benitez and JDS were stuck on the fence. I have to watch some of the fights again to see which it was.

[Marma Kalari]

@Hydrogen Good luck next time,the UFC use the big cage in their main cards and especially PPV and only in the free product they will be using the smaller cage,it is true that it will make a difference in the fighters preparation but it looked like a regular cage for me.JDS always had a problem by getting stuck with the cage and this time he got knocked down while Cain used his short punches while Miocic gave a cross punch which took him down.