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Thinking about selling my 100 btc gold bar.


Very RARE !  Casascius 100 BTC Bar. Unfunded  Bar #04170469

One 100 Bitcoin Bar


100 BTC gold plated bar

    Weight: 4.2oz
    Dimensions: 8cm x 4cm x 0.6cm
    Printed year: none
    Indented features: "100 BTC", Bitcoin logo, "gold plated bearer bar"
    Hologram: V1 or V2


Asking 5.5 bitcoin    Now Open For offers

please send your e mail.. I do not know how too post them on here.

Have lot's of photos,   

Photo below of bar #04170455 from my ebay ad
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MS8AAOSw32lYn1Zk/s-l1600.jpg

Got pics of this bar?  And are you willing to use escrow?  Only way you will get a buyer.

While these bars are rare, I think your asking price is a bit too ambitious.   The last bar I saw went for 1.7 BTC, and that was when Bitcoin was $700

yes i have photo's

Can we see them then?  :D

I am open for offers

Pictures would be appreciated.   ;)

  link to photo added

Can you take a picture of the bar, together with a piece of paper with your name on it. You just linked to an eBay image.

send e mail please

Why wouldn't you just post it publicly?

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Are you cflow01 (thecryptostore)?

Thanks for the picture, the ebay item is listed here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/361902671144

i can offer 1.1 btc whit escrow  ::)

I assume you purchased this from bitguy / cflow.  He was the exclusive seller of these straight from Mike C.  There were only 4 made.  I have one.  It's mentioned in the Encyclopedia.

There are only four of these ever made so it should have a premium just for its numismatic value. Maybe a trade + some BTC to the right buyer

I'd make it my life's mission to fund it with 100BTC, why isn't it yours?

2 factor, no can do

so you have 1 and i know someone else with 2, so this is the 4th?

anyone else have one?

thanks!

There are 17 bar of 100 BTC in circulation ... I have read this infirmation and photo here:

quote author=Chainsaw link=topic=41892.msg11536284#msg11536284 date=1433450019
On thread of casascius

17? interesting...you sure?

Sorry if you read 17 are active of S1 and total minted are 57

Here you can read and see the photo:

Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41892.1120

and here you can see total mint and total active, here you can read 100 BTC bar S1 minted 57 active 17 ... and S2 series minted 87 and active 57

Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214589.0

WOW! so maybe this isn't so rare after all?  ill bid 1 BTC :)

thanks!

Wait, did I read this right?  You are selling "Unfunded  Bar #04170469"

And the bar on your eBay listing is : 04170455 ????

How many of these limited 4 bar items do you own ?

Thanks?"!

I'd love one of these, at the right price! ;)

These are not the bars I know of from cflow. The one I had at one point was the bar with the upside down holo and red dot. Regardless, they're still great pieces to have.

These are not normal 100B bars.  They were produced by Mike C roughly 2 yrs ago.  Bitguy to my knowledge, arranged with Mike to get these.  There were only 4 bars like this, and another 8 with the holo upside down and with a dot added on the holo.  Another one of a kind 1000B bar was made.  They were sold unfunded due to the regulation issues.

We discussed the history of these in the Encyclopedia.

Bitguy2016 and monkeynuts can chime in if they like.

I'd offer 1.25 BTC

So............. no one is questioning the item for sale?

OP says he is selling: Unfunded Bar #04170469

And the bar on HIS eBay listing is : 04170455

(Photo below of bar #04170455 from my ebay ad
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MS8AAOSw32lYn1Zk/s-l1600.jpg)

Are there more than 4 Bars in existence? is the encyclopedia incorrect?

Thanks!

 There remains 17 funded, version one, 100 BTC bars.
There are a larger number of version two bars.

 This offering is not funded, it represents a different, limited offering Mike did. I am pretty sure the mintage is much higher than four, that is just how many we know about.

 I shifted focus a few years back to acquiring the most limited mintage pieces. My long-term view is that if the collectible community fails, it won't matter what the specific investments are. If the collectible community takes off, we will have more collectors, and the goal of completing sets will apply the most pressure to those pieces with the most limited mintage.

 To that end, something like this is a neat buy,   But only as a longer term speculative investment with potentially a complete loss, and also potentially a multiple-fold gain.

Ill do 1.3BTC escrow with minerjones

1.35 BTC

OP, is this an auction now, or you are simply stating you want to possibly sell this bar?


I haven't seen recent replies about any offers?

ARE you selling this or not?

thanks!

     hello  not at this time, thank you for the offer

I wrote to bitguy asking him for his input.  In the meantime, here is the text from one of bitguy's / cflow previous ebay auctions related to this item...

ABOUT THIS ITEM FOR SALE:  Only 4 ever made! (only 2 left in stock and then never again)

If you are a Casascius collector, you have to have one or both versions of these!

EXTREMELY RARE!  Rarest of the rare. This is the 100 btc bar 2FA version. The only 100 btc bars that were made "non loaded". (These are not redeemed standard 100 btc bars.)

100 btc 2FA Bars are factory engraved on the hologram, "2Factor" by Mike Caldwell himself, the creator of Casascius. (2 factor version, which means there is a double layer of security in having a pass phrase associated with the bitcoin address. This prohibits anyone from redeeming the coin/bar without both the passphrase and the private key underneath the hologram. (We will provide passphrase with bar). Casascius never sees the original passphrase.

ALSO, I have had questions as to whether all bars were originally made loaded, the answer is NO. From Casascius website: "Available as a pre-loaded 100 BTC bar, as well as a non-denominated savings bar. "   The 100 btc bar offered prior was originally only sold loaded, and they are now obviously worth over $30K.  The hologram actually says zero btc if you look closely. This bar is factory new and the hologram was never peeled or tampered with.

You will receive a random numbered bar of the 4 produced.

TRADES WELCOME! Crypto or other non-crypto coins.

SEE THE FULL STORY BELOW.

MORE ABOUT THE PRODUCT AND INFO ON OTHER VARIANTS: CASASCIUS
History:
Casascius made only about 80 or less 100 btc bars,  loaded with 100 digital btc and far fewer 1000 btc ones. They only were sold loaded. I have dealt much with Mike Caldwell and in early 2014, after Casascius stopped selling loaded bitcoins due to regulatory issues, was able to work with him and convince him to let go of the only remaining bal of the "empty" 100 bars left. He also had 2- 1000 btc ones left empty.
He was not going to let them go as he didn't want to release any unloaded ones as to not confuse anyone and he felt loading them with 100 and 1000 btc loaded was just too much money these days. $30k to $300k, ouch!
He came up with and agreed to use "factory "zero btc" holograms. These are not re-manufactured redeemed 100 btc bars, these are factory original and factory produced. There were only 8- 100 btc bars made with regular key, and 4- 100 btc bars made 2FA, and 1- 1000 btc bar 2FA. (actually he did sell another 1000 btc bar on ebay and bids went up to $8k, wow!). We had 1 of the 100 btc bars and traded it for $7500 equivalent. (See picture of it for reference, but no, sorry, it is not available still.) I have provenance of these bars from Mike with PGP signed scan and bunch of emails, and will release/include info with the bar upon purchase.
Bars are as received from manufacturer and may contain minor abrasions to gold plating due to handling at the factory. 2FA Bars were was wrapped in clear cellophane for protection. Non 2FA bars are in orig factory thick plastic wrapped and should be mint. (this is normal, all bars I have seen and sold are this way.)
Price includes shipping and insurance.
 
*This is one of 12- 100btc bars known produced, of which 4 were stickered "zero btc" with "2FA" Lasered on hologram(2 factor security), other 8 were stickered "zero btc".
 
These have not been shown to the masses until now, just a couple friends/good cust.  Only have 2- 2FA, a few non 2FA left.
These are very valuable. I have sold/traded a few for around $2k+ ea.

 OTHER BARS AVAILABLE: We also have a few of the 100 btc non 2FA bars.
The non 2FA is stickered and is unique from Mike. There were only 8 made I believe that were non loaded. To comfortably sell the 100's non loaded non 2FA as not to confuse folks, which was never done before, Mike brainstormed and came up with the idea to add a zero btc holo, place it upside down, and place a sm red dot by the firstbits.
(Most reg bars were made in std, not 2FA, as mike used to engrave those on a per order basis and they are time consuming.)
 
To recap:
1. These are the only bars of either the 100, or 1000 denomination that were made and never funded. (Plus Mike did auction a 1000 non loaded bar on ebay for $8700)
2. The 1000 bar was stickered up as 2FA. The 100 bars are stickered as a mixture of 2FA and non 2FA.
3. The Non 2 FA 100's only 8 were made that were never funded. To uniquely identify them, and to be clear that these were not funded, these had a zero BTC hologram, and this was placed upside down on the bars. Additionally a small red dot was placed by the first bits.
4. The 2FA 100's only 4 were made that were never funded. These again have a zero BTC hologram on, but this is placed 'right way up', and has 2 Factor on the hologram. I am unclear if there were any 2FA 100's made that were funded, or if they were non 2fa only (but obviously the unique identifier is the zero BTC holo)
5. The 2FA 1000, is a one of a kind. This again has a zero BTC hologram on, but this is placed 'right way up', and has 2 Factor on the hologram.

Casascius Gold-Plated Savings Bar: Dress your Bitcoins for tomorrow, make them look their best in your vault today. Would weigh about 12 ounces if it were solid gold, this is a 4.2-ounce metal alloy bar with gold plating. A neat-looking novelty that looks unmistakably valuable. This version is a non-denominated savings bar. Bar is 80mm x 40mm x 6mm.

I can confirm from my direct dealings with Mike, from what he stated, these were the only leftover bars he had and he did these for me only.
He and I collaborated on these to accomplish these without them being funded. Mike came up with the zero btc holo and the upside down and red dot variants. I have never seen any others pop up that did not match the numbers I have on these and the other limited bars I had.
I can confirm out of the 4- 2FA 100 btc ones, the ending numbers on the holos end with: 40,24,69,55, and that all were sold/traded.
I believe this corresponds with both holos shown.
I can also confirm the value/selling price on these definitely exceeded the offers on the thread.


This matches

Serious question, was the forum account (bitcoin420miningpools) created for the purpose of selling this 100btc bar?

hello.. no I have a solo mining pool 

Thanks, I was wondering since selling such a high priced item on a new account may require you to use escrow.

I did notice on the ebay auction you have "PAYMENT BITCOIN ONLY" specified.  I wasn't aware that could be enforced and am wondering if you could provide some pointers on how you handle those transactions?

escrow is fine......Thank you for this info I miss place it. Bar is listed on ebay  at this time,     I have a solo mining pool  bitcoin420miningpools.com   the light coin link need to be fixed. working on it now.    Looking for heavy hasher or two bitcoin and lightcoin  at just 1% My pools have not gotten any block yet, my 5 ant mininer R4 are down, buying bitcoin insted of hash power for a few mouths.  have a great day

Produced 2 years ago? None of the bars acknowledged in Elianite's book (which I believed you were a contributor for) mentions a Casascius 100 BTC bar mintage later than 2011. Am I reading the book incorrectly?

I think these bars are pretty cool. Low mintage and a very class cold storage option.

Does Mike sell the holograms anywhere? Can we find the holograms anywhere?

Assuming you are looking at the Encyclopedia, vs Elianite's Casascius-only COINFIRM initial pdf, this info is there.  There are dedicated pages for these bars.  1 for the 2FA 100BTC Unfunded bar (4 produced), 1 for the non-2FA 100BTC Unfunded bar (8 produced), and another for the 1000BTC Unfunded bar (1 produced).  The Year in the chart reflects when the metal bars were produced, not when it was assembled with the special holo.

Here's two pages from one of our early Encyclopedia drafts...it may not be exact to what was printed, but its all I have readily available.

Mike does not sell the holos anywhere.  

As bitguy mentioned, these were special produced and very very low mintage.    They are not the same as the regular 100 BTC bars.

https://i.imgur.com/jTklvZrl.png https://i.imgur.com/X0cN0iFl.png

I agree with all that Bithalo and bitguy are saying.  These are separate very limited runs of unfunded cas bars - and not of the standard none denomination bars. The funded bars were produced in greater numbers and can be referenced on Uberbills etc.

I may just keep and load it up

I personally wouldnt load it.  I think it devalues the collectibility should you wish to resell one day.   But I also wouldn't sell it unless you get what you want you're looking for.

Yes, it is very nice to have this bar, thank you

There are so many options to store your bitcoin, you would probably end up losing out on money in the long run if you were to do this. People would prefer an untouched bar if you ever want to sell it in future and you're more likely to get a higher premium on it.

If you want the red dot variant to make a pair, I have one available 

So when you said "produced" you weren't referring to when these bars were minted?

So these bars were minted in 2011 but funded "two years ago"? How does one know when they were funded? Which number is more significant - when the unfunded bar was created or when the unfunded bar was funded?

And you're right, I was looking at the free PDF from the coinfirm.org site.

Thanks!

I have it listed at a high price on e bay,  That way I keep it.    In need of bitcoin and litecoin mininers on my solo pools  www.bitcoin420miningpools.com.   Thank you all for the info that I miss placed, after buyer the bar I got hit by a truck, just now walking and talking agin.  have a nice day

@HabBear...

Bars minted in 2011.  Holos assembled 2 yrs ago.   Never funded.

Drop me a PM offer

Ill offer you 2 BTC for it  ;)

hi
thank you for the offer.  best offer so far is 2.4 bit coin. have a great day   bitcoin420miningpools.com  solo mining

An attentive community can act as a security measure. Providing history knowledge, precise pictures, details like 118g weigth of this item.
That holo should be tamperproof.
Escrow seems advised, just how to proof the delivery process? So far there is no postal blockchain in existance.

I would sell this great saving bar for 3.5 bitcoin. or just hang on to it. if any one one would like this saving bar please message me. Thank you

I ran into a similar issue the item said delivered and I never received it. I think that purchases over a certain amount should be hand delivered

now 3 bitcoin. thank you, bitcoin420miningpools.com