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I've been a long time user of Gmail and I've really loved using it for all this time, Google is one of those companies that is linked into to most things and can usually be used to sign into a majority of sites on the internet. Though, with recent revelations of the amount of data companies are really tracking about me and everyone else in the world which is sold down the line to marketers and so on I was looking for a better email service as they pretty much have my entire life on their.

I've seen many people saying ProtonMail is safe, secure and the way to go but I've never really used it and wouldn't really want to try without hearing input from some users, would love some people to let me know how it goes.

never heard of proton mail until today, i've always used gmail, but i see they can accept bitcoin, this alone make me like it; ok i've registered after a quick look it appear that you can only have 20gb of storage and only 50 address added if you want all this for $24 per month, if you ask me this is a bit expensive and limited, but i like that you are encrypted, unlike google that store all the information

I don't believe that we have fully secure mail provider. Protonmail might be close but there are still some questions to be asked.

My main concern, how can we can tell that my message sent is being encrypted with the correct public key?
I mean Protonmail is the creator and distributor of the encryption keys, they can switch the keys and we will never know, right?

I would also like to know how secure ProtonMail is. They have free and paid
version. What I don't like about those free mail (Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail) is
that they are like building your profiles and then you will be targeted
for advertisement from those because its very lucrative for them.

Probably one thing I want to know if someone else has uses ProtonMail
is that what if you send someone an email but the recipient does not
using ProtonMail, then how can the individual read the mail if it is
encrypted?

Technically it is possible, but you and the other party have to understand how to work with the javascript debugger within your browser. From there you could see whether or not everything is as protonmail tells you it is (i.e verify keys).

If you spot that protonmail has been messing with the keys, then it's obvious that your information has been accessible to protonmail. That's always a risk since you rely on protonmail to create and distribute everything in full honesty.

And I guess thats the reason why Proton mail is an open source to proved that they don't hide any backdoors or whatever. If you can understand the source codes of this application you can take a look here https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClient

protonmail is based on the opensource. but in fact to develop a mail platform we need a variety of important elements, such as security. today gmail certainly has the most advanced security features compared to other mail platforms.

And I guess thats the reason why Proton mail is an open source to proved that they don't hide any backdoors or whatever. If you can understand the source codes of this application you can take a look here https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClient

Never heard of Proton mail will keep using gmail as its not broken yet,just as the saying  ”if it ain't broke, don't fix it”. Thanks for the heads up privacy really should be first priority! 
Just out of curiosity is proton mail the next big thing?

that's exactly the mindset to get hacked and lose all your crypto.

• ProtonMail is open source: https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClient This means the webClient, the main software, all the cryptography libraries they use is open for everyone to see and check for themselves from day one.
• They accept bitcoin. For their paid services and also as donation
• Your Email is encrypted End-To-End meaning the server has no access to your content since it is being encrypted inside your browser.
• It is based in Switzerland, meaning they respect your privacy more!
• It supports Tor.
• The design looks cool :) https://protonmail.com/images/slider/column-message.jpg
• Also has iOS and Android support

It is worth mentioning that for highly sensitive information you should still take other precautions.

I've been a long time user of Gmail and I've really loved using it for all this time, Google is one of those companies that is linked into to most things and can usually be used to sign into a majority of sites on the internet. Though, with recent revelations of the amount of data companies are really tracking about me and everyone else in the world which is sold down the line to marketers and so on I was looking for a better email service as they pretty much have my entire life on their.

I've seen many people saying ProtonMail is safe, secure and the way to go but I've never really used it and wouldn't really want to try without hearing input from some users, would love some people to let me know how it goes.

Protonmail! Since its encrypted :)

Gmail may not have the security features that Protonmail has but Gmail does provide a more fuller suite of services that can be used across multiple platforms. For example Gmail has mobile apps, calendaring, etc while Protonmail has yet to mature to that level functionality.

Another limitation is that at the moment you need to wait for at least 3-4 weeks (if not longer) to get a Protonmail account.

For me gmail is the best mail site that I've used fir more than 3 years and I am not yet encountering any problem with their services. With regards to account hacking, they have the best security that I had observe for a long time, and talking about proton mail I have no idea about it and it's not a well known site here in my country where I am residing right now.

But do they require you to put in a code you receive to your phone via sms if you try logging in from a device not previously recognized by their system like gmail does all the time? :(

You mis the whole point here. Protonmail isn't meant to be used as mainstream email application. If that was the case, it would offer a much better free service experience to compete with the rest.

Other than that, what do you mean with that you have to wait 3 to 4 weeks to get an account? You can sign up and start sending and receiving emails with protonmail within 3 minutes.

You need to see the bigger picture here. Protonmail is funded by a "donation" and "subscription" service and would always lack the funding to build capacity like Google. When they run out of resources, they rely on "donations" to increase their capacity to allow for more people to join their service.  

Well, how about firefox? Firefox is also donation only, and it seems to be doing pretty well.

https://protonmail.com/blog/russia-block-2020/

Well, it's not the first time when Russia is doing such things. They don't even ask, they just block you. Censorship in this country is going to be mad in the next years and it doesn't concern the internet only, but also a real life for example Moscow already has cameras scanning your face and recognizing systems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUI6AdTuisk (English subtitles are)
Find the masked loafers at the end of the video?
The entire law enforcement system of Russia has been turned into a thieves' service staff.
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What a wicked power in our country, one does not even believe in the reality of what is happening
So what are we waiting for? Election them can not be eliminated is not it clear? In Ukraine, people were shot at and are still being killed, and they are suffering.
Alexei, well, look for yourself, you call these comrades (or I don’t know what to call them, you won’t call them people), and bandits and crooks and thieves, without even insulting, but only stating the facts, in other words, all these comrades are just criminals . Then I have a question. What makes you think that criminals will turn into an institution of noble girls and will behave with dignity ?? No, I dare to assure you, this will not happen, but this has not happened in nature. They do not have such concepts as conscience, shame, dignity, honor and so on. All that is is a position of power, and everything, further only a big fat point. And accordingly, from a position of strength, they can take away money and everything that they can carry away, just like Shestun’s life and health and home and family and everything that was taken away. And what can one expect from a criminal - a constructive dialogue or compromise? No, you can only expect a vile attack from around the corner, which is what happens in principle. Speak they subjugated the courts and prosecutors! No, they subjugated the law! Maybe there is nothing wrong with the fact that only some guys have all the money, the law, the authorities and the security forces. Here is just one problem, this is not a company of noble people, these are criminals. And this must be understood very well. So to keep money in banks with criminals is at least irresponsible, and to be surprised that they disappeared is simply a waste of time. It would be strange if they had not disappeared :))
- Do you want the 90s to come back ?! - Of course not ! - And they are back!
You are a naive person. They did not return, they did not go anywhere. Just the chaos of the brothers (by the way, it was possible to agree with them) was transformed into the chaos of the authorities (officials, courts, prosecutors, police), and you will never agree with them. Brothers plucked businessmen, current thieves and bandits plucked the whole country ... So the 90th compared to today - flowers!
In the 90s there was nothing to worry about! Houses exploded as they explode. Low salaries were then, there are now. There was a small and medium business. There was a gangster racket, he became a bureaucrat. By the way, there were not so many homeless people, however, as well as black realtors. There was democracy, there were hopes, the eternal drunk and cheerful President. There were not so many beggars, there were not so many officials, there were not so many oligarchs and priests. There were many hospitals and schools. Poorly provided, but the staff was still competent. The ruble fell, and goods, shops, and purchasing power appeared. Why scare 90 youth? Everything was fine there. It's time to scare today.
For example, in the 90s, Chechen bandits did not carry in their pocket the identification card of an FSB officer and a star of the Hero of Russia. They were just gangsters.
Manager Junior, why Chechens ?! This your statement is true and applies to absolutely all bandits now. And what kind of ksiv in their pockets and trinkets on the chest - it does not matter ...
@ Kos Mos what a mature opinion, we have so many anti-corruption fighters. Well, tell me at least one other famous person investigating the shadow capital of officials and covering injustices across the country, can not you? I personally don’t give a shit about what Navalny is in life, what he does is much more significant and stronger than all the words of bureaucrats and screen pi * dabols over the past ten years at least.
The state is struggling with the anti-corruption fund🤣 This is only possible in the Russian Federation! 👏👏
There is such a profession, robbing Russia.
Here's an example for you: a bank card block for any disobedience - and you're nobody .. here and think whether you need to keep money on the card and in the bank
19 only in the office ... 25 more in the street ... 80 more in the offices ... 9000 more in the suction ... another 1,500,000 in collusion with the organized crime group ... Only The Hague!
The government is always not enough, these bastards are ready to squeeze every penny out of the people right up to blocking and stealing accounts!
17 loafers counted) and they carry Alexei in their arms, here it is glory!)))
Here is an evil dwarf, even stole money from children's accounts, but what is there to be surprised they robbed all the children of our country
Ohhh, Deripska has surfaced. The story with the fish girl has already been forgotten, and you can get excited against Navalny. Restless...
How pitiful the AUTHORITY looks ... You cannot "cover" your dirty deeds, and decided that it is easier to block accounts ?!
"Impomenty" is the most important state-forming estate in the Russian Federation. New term. I sincerely ask you to excuse me citizens with erectile dysfunction. All matches are random.
Putin screams everywhere - within the law, within the law !!! I want to ask - but THIS - under what law? Can someone enlighten a lawyer with 18 years of experience?
Didn’t he steal money from all families in Russia?
It’s interesting, but what did you want from an authoritarian, thieves and completely corrupt with permission