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Title: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: SA Bitcoin Brothers on February 23, 2017, 11:17:18 AM
Good day, what do you mine with Baikal and/or Panda? ETH ZCASH?

I'm kinda new to ALT (I mine BTC). Have 3 ALT rigs.  Zcash (4x R9 270s, 1x R9 280) Eth (4 x RX 480)

What is the best $ vs MH/s?

Should I stay with building rigs? Or is there something better out there?

(I have cheap electricity and space)

Thanks


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: philipma1957 on February 23, 2017, 12:16:47 PM
Good day, what do you mine with Baikal and/or Panda? ETH ZCASH?

I'm kinda new to ALT (I mine BTC). Have 3 ALT rigs.  Zcash (4x R9 270s, 1x R9 280) Eth (4 x RX 480)

What is the best $ vs MH/s?

Should I stay with building rigs? Or is there something better out there?

(I have cheap electricity and space)

Thanks

okay the pandaminer  is best  for tight spots and is out of stock.

you have skills and can build rigs.  if you get your rig parts on a sale   they may be good.

I am anti asic  for alt coins.  the Baikal  could sell at 1000 and the builder could turn a profit. so you could face a loss if the builder decides selling lots of them is his best move.

I lost a lot with LTC and gridseeds  s the market was flooded with them priced dropped from 3000 to 300 on a blade in under 7 months and the ltc dropped from 35 to 6 bucks.  it is not under 4 bucks.

Also if you are there are sellers of used gpu rigs.  I have sold lots of them. Every spring as my power changes from 9.5 to 19 cents for the summer.
My 3 threads
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1799555.0 ------- newest thread number 3

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.0 ------- oldest thread number 1
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1584973.0 --------thread number 2



here are six rigs amd a panda miner
https://i.imgur.com/WAXLPYM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MCzIhow.jpg


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: RentGPU on February 23, 2017, 12:23:47 PM
Good day, what do you mine with Baikal and/or Panda? ETH ZCASH?

I'm kinda new to ALT (I mine BTC). Have 3 ALT rigs.  Zcash (4x R9 270s, 1x R9 280) Eth (4 x RX 480)

What is the best $ vs MH/s?

Should I stay with building rigs? Or is there something better out there?

(I have cheap electricity and space)

Thanks

okay the pandaminer  is best  for tight spots and is out of stock.

you have skills and can build rigs.  if you get your rig parts on a sale   they may be good.

I am anti asic  for alt coins.  the Baikal  could sell at 1000 and the builder could turn a profit. so you could face a loss if the builder decides selling lots of them is his best move.

I lost a lot with LTC and gridseeds  s the market was flooded with them priced dropped from 3000 to 300 on a blade in under 7 months and the ltc dropped from 35 to 6 bucks.  it is not under 4 bucks.

Also if you are there are sellers of used gpu rigs.  I have sold lots of them. Every spring as my power changes from 9.5 to 19 cents for the summer.
My 3 threads
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1799555.0 ------- newest thread number 3

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.0 ------- oldest thread number 1
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1584973.0 --------thread number 2



here are six rigs amd a panda miner
https://i.imgur.com/WAXLPYM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MCzIhow.jpg
What is the model of this mobos i want to build rigs like that without raisers what is the best pci-e per price mobo you suggest .... Thx


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: philipma1957 on February 23, 2017, 12:25:46 PM

these are good they allow for compact builds

on sale for 75 usd with this code  022BW44

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421&cm_re=biostar_z170-_-13-138-421-_-Product


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: RentGPU on February 23, 2017, 12:31:47 PM

these are good they allow for compact builds

on sale for 75 usd with this code  022BW44

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421&cm_re=biostar_z170-_-13-138-421-_-Product
....THX :)


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: SA Bitcoin Brothers on February 23, 2017, 12:55:09 PM
Good day, what do you mine with Baikal and/or Panda? ETH ZCASH?

I'm kinda new to ALT (I mine BTC). Have 3 ALT rigs.  Zcash (4x R9 270s, 1x R9 280) Eth (4 x RX 480)

What is the best $ vs MH/s?

Should I stay with building rigs? Or is there something better out there?

(I have cheap electricity and space)

Thanks

okay the pandaminer  is best  for tight spots and is out of stock.

you have skills and can build rigs.  if you get your rig parts on a sale   they may be good.

I am anti asic  for alt coins.  the Baikal  could sell at 1000 and the builder could turn a profit. so you could face a loss if the builder decides selling lots of them is his best move.

I lost a lot with LTC and gridseeds  s the market was flooded with them priced dropped from 3000 to 300 on a blade in under 7 months and the ltc dropped from 35 to 6 bucks.  it is not under 4 bucks.

Also if you are there are sellers of used gpu rigs.  I have sold lots of them. Every spring as my power changes from 9.5 to 19 cents for the summer.
My 3 threads
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1799555.0 ------- newest thread number 3

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429151.0 ------- oldest thread number 1
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1584973.0 --------thread number 2



here are six rigs amd a panda miner

Thank you for the info. Looking good. I'll take your advice. Stick with GPUs. (I mine BTC with S7s,S9 and T9s but I must sa, I like the gpu mining more)


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: SA Bitcoin Brothers on February 23, 2017, 01:05:17 PM
http://oi63.tinypic.com/260prvp.jpg

2 of my Rigs. We only started mining Des 2016. So still new to this


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: thedue on February 23, 2017, 02:45:46 PM
What works best for me... mix it  ;)

I´m running rigs AND asics... was running fpga´s back in the days too...

If one of them turns out to be bad a bad choice (like phil said.. gridseeds  :-\ ) you still have different stuff that brings some profit in to cover the cost ..

Same thing for coins.. I hold lots of them.. but not just one or two different ones


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: SA Bitcoin Brothers on February 24, 2017, 06:06:38 AM
What works best for me... mix it  ;)

I´m running rigs AND asics... was running fpga´s back in the days too...

If one of them turns out to be bad a bad choice (like phil said.. gridseeds  :-\ ) you still have different stuff that brings some profit in to cover the cost ..

Same thing for coins.. I hold lots of them.. but not just one or two different ones

Thank you. I'm mining BTC (antminers), Ether an Zcash. Any other good ones for a rig?


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: mettalmag on February 24, 2017, 10:47:06 PM
Since everyone will advice you from their own experience I'll tell you what worked for me best, rigs. You can always change/replace and sell parts, for lesser value but still it's something.
For managing I think asics are better, way better than rigs..


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: philipma1957 on February 24, 2017, 11:03:00 PM
What works best for me... mix it  ;)

I´m running rigs AND asics... was running fpga´s back in the days too...

If one of them turns out to be bad a bad choice (like phil said.. gridseeds  :-\ ) you still have different stuff that brings some profit in to cover the cost ..

Same thing for coins.. I hold lots of them.. but not just one or two different ones

key is  multiple venues.  all or nothing can hurt a lot


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: Tmdz on February 24, 2017, 11:22:02 PM
Stick with rigs and have fun building them.

Electricity and space is not a problem for you so compact solutions are not a worry.

Screw asic, people have been burnt on those investments in the past.  They can go obsolete and lose nearly all value over night.

Gpu rigs will always have value reselling on ebay etc to gamers or who ever wants a gpu (+ computer components) and there are people with all budget sizes to buy up your cards.  So that will be a safe investment with minimal amount of risk, biggest gain when you upgrade hardware.  If mining gets completely flushed down the toilet then you would be fairly safe and still net a gain.


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: Mister305 on February 25, 2017, 12:11:50 AM

these are good they allow for compact builds

on sale for 75 usd with this code  022BW44

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421&cm_re=biostar_z170-_-13-138-421-_-Product

What cpu would you recommend with this motherboard


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: philipma1957 on February 25, 2017, 05:17:27 PM

these are good they allow for compact builds

on sale for 75 usd with this code  022BW44

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421&cm_re=biostar_z170-_-13-138-421-_-Product

What cpu would you recommend with this motherboard


I buy used on eBay

 i5 6400t  my preferred model
 i3 6300t
 i3 6100t
 g 4400t


I get the option to mine a CPU coin this way.

here is one for 137
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i5-6400T-QUAD-core-processor-2-20GHz-TURBO-boost-to-2-80GHz-/142287890457?

here is an is 6300t for 99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-i3-6300T-Skylake-3-3-GHz-Processor-LGA1151-SR2HD-/262852783042?hash=item3d333f2bc2:g:lc0AAOSw4A5YozHN

i3 6100t for 95.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i3-6100T-3-2GHz-3M-Cache-DualCore-LGA1151-CPU-Processor-SR2HE-/222208623929?


g4400t for 52.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Pentium-G4400T-2-90Ghz-SR2HQ-LGA-1151-Socket-X626B529-Processor-/262837490473?hash=item3d3255d329:g:WpgAAOSwUKxYjPLK


but all 4 above will work fine with 4 cards


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: ps_jb on February 25, 2017, 05:23:23 PM

I am anti asic  for alt coins.  the Baikal  could sell at 1000 and the builder could turn a profit. so you could face a loss if the builder decides selling lots of them is his best move.


In general I think Baikal should be one of few ASICs if one will decide to build the mining operations. It is multi-algo, absolutely reliable build (not Antminer R4!) and very good reselling capacity.



Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: veleten on February 25, 2017, 07:14:01 PM

these are good they allow for compact builds

on sale for 75 usd with this code  022BW44

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421&cm_re=biostar_z170-_-13-138-421-_-Product

What cpu would you recommend with this motherboard


I buy used on eBay

 i5 6400t  my preferred model
 i3 6300t
 i3 6100t
 g 4400t


I get the option to mine a CPU coin this way.

here is one for 137
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i5-6400T-QUAD-core-processor-2-20GHz-TURBO-boost-to-2-80GHz-/142287890457?

here is an is 6300t for 99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-i3-6300T-Skylake-3-3-GHz-Processor-LGA1151-SR2HD-/262852783042?hash=item3d333f2bc2:g:lc0AAOSw4A5YozHN

i3 6100t for 95.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i3-6100T-3-2GHz-3M-Cache-DualCore-LGA1151-CPU-Processor-SR2HE-/222208623929?


g4400t for 52.99
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Pentium-G4400T-2-90Ghz-SR2HQ-LGA-1151-Socket-X626B529-Processor-/262837490473?hash=item3d3255d329:g:WpgAAOSwUKxYjPLK


but all 4 above will work fine with 4 cards

what CPU coins do you mine,if I may ask?
and what is the ROI on your CPUs? I see all of them are under 100$ so it should be a good investment (and you can sell them later,too)
there are pre-orders available for the newewst 8 core AMD Ryzen CPUs,they are going to be a breakthrough in speed/power efficiency ratio
and also going to be at least 2 times cheaper than Intel's CPUs
read more about it here: http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/amd-ryzen-specs-performance-release-date
this could be a good reason to consider AMD mobos and CPUs for your rigs


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: bittawm on February 26, 2017, 07:11:33 AM

I am anti asic  for alt coins.  the Baikal  could sell at 1000 and the builder could turn a profit. so you could face a loss if the builder decides selling lots of them is his best move.


In general I think Baikal should be one of few ASICs if one will decide to build the mining operations. It is multi-algo, absolutely reliable build (not Antminer R4!) and very good reselling capacity.



baikal units are not like normal asics, multi asic is yum AF


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: Marvell1 on February 26, 2017, 07:37:45 AM

I am anti asic  for alt coins.  the Baikal  could sell at 1000 and the builder could turn a profit. so you could face a loss if the builder decides selling lots of them is his best move.


In general I think Baikal should be one of few ASICs if one will decide to build the mining operations. It is multi-algo, absolutely reliable build (not Antminer R4!) and very good reselling capacity.



baikal units are not like normal asics, multi asic is yum AF

the only thing worth mining with them is x11 though they cant do eth or blake or pascal etc or even zec


Title: Re: Baikal, Panda or rig??
Post by: bittawm on February 26, 2017, 07:43:26 AM

I am anti asic  for alt coins.  the Baikal  could sell at 1000 and the builder could turn a profit. so you could face a loss if the builder decides selling lots of them is his best move.


In general I think Baikal should be one of few ASICs if one will decide to build the mining operations. It is multi-algo, absolutely reliable build (not Antminer R4!) and very good reselling capacity.



baikal units are not like normal asics, multi asic is yum AF

the only thing worth mining with them is x11 though they cant do eth or blake or pascal etc or even zec

quark and qubit are algood too