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I see these two projects have excellent potential and a second developer is very hard work to build the project, but what's your choice?
 WeTrust Thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1773367.0;topicseen
Edgeless Thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1718384.0;topicseen
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I will not choose both of them, It's very risky to investing on the ico. Just waiting for the coin already on the exchange site. Both have differents purpose. So I can't choose which is better. Bank roll and the crypto insurance.  :D

Clearly the gambling one is more realistic in terms of adoption. The community loan markets are not online and will be slow to learn crypto. Online gambling is a very accessible market already.

But all this being built on Ethereum isn't going to last, because Ethereum is not going to survive as a dominant blockchain (it can't scale decentralized, Casper is flawed).  ;)

As for the best hype and pump, no comment. You decide. The bleeding heart "eliminating poverty" meme will probably be employed for the community loan marketing.

I chose wetrust to invest but good luck for both of these projects. :o

My vote edgeless because i'm follow signature edgeless

Chose edgeless , gambling project with 0 house edge

I think both have the chance, they  are completely different projects.

Wetrust: investment min: 1000 BTC, max: 6000 BTC

Edgeless: min: 50000 ETH(555 BTC), max: 440000 ETH(4884 BTC) current ETH price=0.0111 btc on poloniex.

Edgeless has lower threshold, and not large max like Wetrust. Lower market cap projects will be more profitbale, so IMO Edgeless will be better.

actually i like gambling, with 0% house edge ofcourse i will vote for edgeless

As a fanatic of blockchains, I would personally vote for edgeless :)

It's instant blockchain solution for a massive problem in a gambling industry. Solving that problem is extremely rewarding for all stakeholders and blockchain community. Even gamblers, there would be less cheating against them.

Best part: it's something what we can do in 2017 because technological capacity is pretty much ready.

Other projects such as complex DAOs, super systems, insurance/ marketing platforms governed by smart contracts are nice, but potential stakeholder value creation/ rewards can be expected in far FAR future with a high chance of failure.

People programmed calculator first and only then moved to artificial intelligence. Not the other way around. (just in case: that's a metaphrase)

p.s projects are in a little bit different categories. It's kinda hard to compare them. I guess there should be a separate thread of discussions.

If you want to join detailed edgeless discussion, feel free to join our slack community: https://edgelessethcasino.signup.team/ (https://edgelessethcasino.signup.team/)

Both have potential, though I will only invest on the project that can give me good profit easily.

I think comparing  WeTrust vs Edgeless is wrong. Is like comparing apple and orange. You should have opened up separate thread for each to discuss them.

I know Edgeless is trying to have a cut of a huge market and high profit potential and if done right with right strategy they should get it right.

WeTrust is trying to move a tradition loan system to the blockchain, this can be done right but my issues with this project are adoption and trust in the system

none of the mentioned.

You're right also predicts the future for the long term
Basically the project was created to bring progress and these two projects have
For now I am with wetrust.io good luck everyone.

Adoption, adoption, adoption.

I'm tired of "great tech" with zero real world users... edgeless has a chance to attract XXXX daily users quickly.
The zero edge casino is actually a loss leader to bring in bettors that will pay 2-3% for sports, etc

just vote edgeless :D

I chose wetrust because they have a lot of teams working in the field each and of course with their expertise, I see edgeless do not have a team. ???

thats rigth, its a good opinion. i think so , edgeles more profitable for investor and trader

Good analysis from you. I am of same opinion. But I will say that both projects are good.

Actually I don't have any idea on these two projects and I haven't read all the thing about them and the fact that I don't have any time to know more about them. Projects are coming out just to collect investors bitcoin to make profit for the whole dev team and after collection they will do some pump and dump effect and complete dump afterwards. After that, they will create new, that's a life cycle.

I voted for Edgeless because it is a single option poll. Wetrust is a financial project, which requires higher coding level. Edgeless is a gambling platform with 0% house edge, it is the killer app for gamblers, gamblers will have more confidence due to 0% house edge.

I vote for WeTrust because I join all bounty stuff with WeTrust,don't want change now.
But think both projects have potential.

If Edgeless drops that to 2500 BTC, they will win this competition easily and reach their maximum easily. If they leave it so high, they may end up like Ark.io and only get 1000 BTC or less (and possibly be underfunded leading to failure). But I don't know for sure because there are a lot of speculators who are not calm, cool, level-headed, and who are easily swayed to swing the bat at lower odds of success.

Too much money upfront can be an incentive to never finish the project.

Both have a maximum that is way too high:

The main tagline from the website is:
A platform for Trusted Lending Circles, powered by people and blockchain.

The slightly longer explanation from the whitepaper is:
WeTrust is a collaborative savings, lending and insurance platform that is autonomous, agnostic, frictionless, and decentralized. WeTrust utilizes the Ethereum blockchain to create a full-stack alternative financial system that leverages existing social capital and trust networks, eliminating the need for a “trusted third party”, allowing for lower fees, improved incentive structures, decentralized risks, allowing a greater amount of capital to reside among the participants, and ultimately improving financial inclusion on a global scale.

Personally I find the concept very interesting. The goal is to build a platform with increasingly complex alternative financial and insurance products. The first product being developed is an application for Trusted Lending Circles (aka Rotating and Saving Credit Association/ROSCA).

They have a website at www.wetrust.io (http://www.wetrust.io), a blog at medium.com/wetrust-blog (http://medium.com/wetrust-blog) and there is a proof-of-concept available on rosca.wetrust.io (http://rosca.wetrust.io). To hear the Founder's talk more about the project in their own words, watch the CoinFund's Hangout (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L2D5teync0) or listen to the Blockchannel's (https://soundcloud.com/blockchannelshow/episode-12-in-ethereum-wetrust) podcast with them.

Trust and adoption seems to be the concerns of The community about Wetrust Project, given the facts that trust is an unlikely matter and adoption of Loan trust circles that Wetrust plans to build maybe low considering the fact that anything Crypto isn't grandpma friendly.


But a quick look at Edgeless tells you of it's potential. The gambling industry is very massive and wouldn't have issues with any adoption of some sorts.

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Either way, Both Project are promising but If I were to chose, I'd go for edgeless.

i think gambling casion have big chance can give the porfit to investors

so i have vote edgeless

how  do Wetrust implement the confirmation and  audit of the  users claims?  we can not do this without  human-work

@eastwind_ja: I've answered your question in the main WeTrust Announcement (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1773367). 

Ico The second is that will fight in March. equally as nice and I'm sure both of them were able to get a minimum of targets ico. I prefer to success edgeless. because of the history of coin gambling ico average success

Since you come over here to shill with 18 pt colored text and emphasize the importance of the views of other past ICO sellers (what software has this guy ever accomplished?), let's at least quote him more accurately:


Feelings are nice. How about specific objective points that we can sink our teeth into instead of nebulous gut intuition.


A dose of objective reality.


The bolded is an important warning. However, it is also incorrect to state that the potential is $450 billion. The potential is closer to $0, because none of that $450 billion market knows anything about crypto or has any significant incentive to use a crypto system. Many of your "potential" users don't even use computers!

The "build it and they will come" delusion.

But you as a speculator don't really care about adoption. What you care about is if they can do some really good bullshit marketing like Vitalik et al did for Ethereum.

Ethereum was selling a dream. But that dream was actualized by producing virtual machines and research.

WeTrust has a marketing problem because the dream actually has to be actualized in adoption. No amount of press releases about endorsements by NGOs and other bullshit will really matter or will it?


He has the same criticisms I made which I formed after glancing at the project for about 2 minutes for the first time.

The barrier to entry is obvious and huge.

It is a reasonably interesting idea. But they don't need $6 million to get to the next stage. They are not even coding a blockchain, as they are using a smartcontract on top of Ethereum. They should be more modest and set their maximum at $2 - $3 million, so that their ICO investors have better ROI and there is more upside demand from investors who wanted to buy but could not get into an oversubscribed ICO.

Besides Ethereum can't scale. So anything built on Ethereum can't scale. Casper is fundamentally flawed and will never work.

It is an interesting idea. And they could in theory transition their idea to any better blockchain that might come in the future. It is a worthy research. But less hype and more sober presentation would be more respected. And stop trying to cash out $6 million for a smart contract and some mobile app. Work hard boys on a minimal salary as all dedicated founder startups do.

One of the "potential" reasons the ICOs set a large maximum is so they can borrow BTC and buy tokens from themselves. So they make it look like they raised more $ than they did and then they have this huge hidden premine.

Notice how he responds to my post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1803849.msg17981989#msg17981989) by trying to bury it with more 18 point colored text endorsements from some more guys who have taken your money from you in the past.

Edit: he deleted his post that was between my two posts (this one and the one immediately above). He originally had post announcing Bo and Vitalik has just joined the project with huge photos and colored text. So clearly we can see he is disingenuous.

If must choose to option wetrust or edgelees
iam choose wetrust, because Iconomi dev interest join to wetrust project, you can see icomi dev high trust , and succes ico selling

but if  you want buy ico selling another two option, iam recomended in my use signature, the Legend room coin
porn and gambling is high intrest investor to join

Where did he write or say that?

I read he concluded, "Conclusion — Neutral". He isn't endorsing it.

I also posted a comment on his blog:

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both of them are good project, but i give my vote to wetrust, if wetrust team can implement business ecosystem it will be good project

if I see the project into two coin will be a success, but I would be more successful gen edgeless
 ;D

i vote Edgeless . Because it's a creative project.

I think both of them have potential and will have sucess with a good and responsible team. But if i have to chose, i will take Edgeless, 0% Edge is too attractive to gamblers, so hopefully  they will loose their money on there  ;D

if I think it's better edgeless

why I prefer edgeless ??
because repayment edgeless lot more than wetrust and Edgeless is a gambling platform with 0% house edge, so gamblers will have more confidence

 

Both these projects have different ideas and no comparison can be made on both.

I believe both these projects will be successful

I will go for edgeless. I dont know. These two ICO looks very promising. But i think edgeless is better. Gambling is very popular in the cryptoworld. So i think edgeless is better. WeTrust is good too. I just read that Iconomi will support WeTrust. Im not really a fan of ICOs because its risky. But we'll see what is better when they're both release in the market.

It seems Daniel review and evaluation of WeTrust will certainly expose the project to more potential investors, I believe Edgeless is better because the market is there and Casino business is huge but for WeTrust I can't reality say how they will attract users to their platform which is a very big issue for me

It is an interesting comparison, but they are totally different projects and build in different realm. You know WeTrust is a financial platform, more specific it is insurance platform, but edgeless is a casino platform, to aim profit like yearly like fiat casinos. Personally I prefer Edgeless, because the gambling industry has more fun, people like gambling over insurance.

LOL, do you ever read the whole sentences have made by daniel? The project still has a lot of the lack and daniel have acknowledged it.

Is edgeless same with vdice. It seems like more gambling platform use the ethereum manufacture.

Both are on different sides but I prefer WeTrust looks more promising bring a concept that can bring economic changes
I'm still waiting to see if this can actually work or not

A blockchain can be used to create a cryptocurrency to act as a medium of exchange.

A blockchain or cryptocurrency, IMHO, cannot vette people for loans, and then prosecute them if they are fraudulent in their loan application and/or don't pay the loan back.

I think any of these coins based on that concept is doomed to fail (WeTrust, HumanIQ)

If you want to do something like this, use an existing coin as the  currency, and then create the software etc to facilitate the peer to peer loans (ie, create a Kickstarter using Bitcoin or Monero or Dash or some other coin, and let that software run in a de-centralized fashion)

@AusKipper: We aren't policing the loans. We're creating tools for people to police themselves and organize as they choose. To thwart bad actors, WeTrust will have four deterrents:

1. Reputation risk/ Reviews: ROSCA groups will be limited to "trusted associates" - family, friends, co-workers, fraternal groups, and professional/ religious organizations. Defaulting on payments could mean social shame and loss of reputation amongst an individual's closest associates. The idea is that for ROSCAs with small enough dollar amount commitments, reputation risk will be sufficient enough to keep participants honest. Reviews may also be left by other members to show how they felt about any participant.

2. Legal risk: ROSCA formation will allow trusted associates to e-sign and bind each other to a legal contract which requires faithful adherence and payment to the ROSCA. Defaulting on payments and stealing could mean legal repercussions. Legal recourse will only be used if individuals are participating in a "high-stakes" ROSCA and legal action would be worthwhile. I've spoken to our legal advisor and she believes it will be possible to create auto-populating templates that will be tailored to each person's ROSCA terms.

3. Collateral risk: Collateral commitments may be required prior to joining a ROSCA. The collateral will be entered into a smart contract which will surrender the property to the ROSCA group if the ROSCA agreement is breached. Collateral can be liquid-cash like assets like Bitcoin or even less liquid assets such as auto/ home titles. Our system will benefit significantly from the ability to accept less liquid assets, since the majority of middle classes’ net worth is locked in real estate. Collateral would allow capital to be used more efficiently.

4. Smart contract bounty (self-enforcement): If a ROSCA participant violates the terms of the ROSCA, the ROSCA group may start a “Bounty” on the retrieval of funds. If the funds are retrieved, the “Bounty” is paid out to the person who enforces the terms of the ROSCA.


These deterrent options will be on an "opt-in" basis and participants will be able to choose the level of security they want.

We Trust is going live today and it will be interesting to know whether it can pull the huge amounts like they are expecting.We are seeing more fantasy projects every now and then and i would like to know what difference does it make by believing in wetrust or edgeless. I have to go through the entire white paper to come to a conclusion.

intresting because they have a very different plan
edgeless with future casino and wetrust by providing a beneficial impact for society.

@Chin Cheng: Here's the link to our WP (updated for Daniel Z (ICONOMI)'s review comments): https://github.com/WeTrustPlatform/documents/blob/master/WeTrustWhitePaper.pdf (https://github.com/WeTrustPlatform/documents/blob/master/WeTrustWhitePaper.pdf)

Well, imo i would prefer and go foward on Wetrust > Edgeless, not saying that edgeless is bad as if they are able to implement their platform at 0% H.E, it is huge

Yet, Wetrust seems to have a more clear objectives : ROSCA, and the previously failed ico of loan, insurance platform Inchain are not able to took over the pioner place in the crypto insurance/loan industry, It will now be the turn of Wetrust to shine.

But of course, As mentioned on certain post, Loan in cryptocurrency is still relatively new and it will not be growing and profitable within months compare to edgeless because gambling platform are able to adapt and just operate when platform launch.

@puremage111: Also, I want to mention that we are taking a "grassroots" approach. We simply want to enable savings and lending amongst trusted communities of friends and family. Because this is already done offline (w/ over 1B people), our platform will be the tool to make it so much easier. Additional products will be built on top of these trust circles that will form.

Check out the roadmap here and our milestones based on funding: https://medium.com/wetrust-blog/updated-budget-and-roadmap-135db39281cb#.rbcygukzq (https://medium.com/wetrust-blog/updated-budget-and-roadmap-135db39281cb#.rbcygukzq)

I remember Inchain was the first attempt in Insurance platform for crypto,which failed miserably and I hope Wetrust does not fall in the same level

I was one of the investors in Inchain

Inchain was different. They wanted to make insurances for bitcoin exchanges/platforms. WeTrust will deliver tools for mutual insurances. People will create insurances by themselves. And insurances aren't main goal for WeTRust. They have different idea different goals so they can't fail.

Oh really. Guaranteed eh?

63% of all new businesses in IT fail within 4 years (http://tech.co/startup-failure-rates-industry-2016-01). And that statistic is not for hair-brained, pie-in-the-sky ideas with a website and a whitepaper generating $millions for some Russian young guys to live the high life at hotels, conferences, parties, important meetings on yachts in the Baltic Sea, etc.. Even for venture capitalist funded (not pimple-face milliBTC speculators) it is 92% failure rate:


I guess you mean they changed the bullshit so that people won't be able to say for sure that they will fail.

ICO graveyard coming... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1806043.msg18002861#msg18002861)

Edgeless has collected 50k ETH on first few hours of the ICO,So the start is a success.

Lets see about Wetrust tomorrow,how do they start off.

Do you just enjoy repeating the same mistake over and over again?


So you bought Ethereum ICO and made a lot of money and you are still searching for the next big one?

But Ethereum made it back when it didn't have competition from 100s of ICO ideas. Ethereum succeeded because the goal was never to actually produce something that works, just to produce an illusion that it works. So after speculators throw their money away down 100 more rat holes, then a few more DAO attacks on Ethereum smart contracts and it will all collapse back to dust while the sellers of ICOs and the attackers have walked away with all the BTC.

I dont think I did a mistake this time by investing in the latest ICOs except for Inchain.

these will be successful for sure..even you can be one of the investors

I personally see both a very good project and will develop in the future, so I think there is no problem if you want to invest in this project because they both had to look great, they are working hard with the team and run the projects themselves very seriously. :D

WeTrust has a very good team and good backers (including Bo Shen and Vitalik). I will trust them.

Didn't they back the DAO, that $150 million hacked "smart" contract (that ended up not being a contract but merely a goal to be ripped up and changed ex post facto)?

How quickly we forget. How many more "smart" contract hacks do we need until we stop forgetting so easily?


How is your Lisk ICO investment working out for you?

http://i63.tinypic.com/33w6ss7.png

It is foolish to compare them. After all, they have different directions.
But for me, more interesting project is Edgeless :)

Neither WeTrust nor Edgeless need their own token. Someone will create copies of their smart contracts which operate with ETH or BTC or which ever is the most liquid and popular token.

Users are not going to adopt a different colored coin for every service they want to use, nor go buy colored coins for every WeTrust fee they need to pay.

These companies need to develop business models that don't depend on them each creating their own unit-of-exchange, because monetary theory informs us that will never happen!

The ICO craze is for taking money from stupid people. Simple as that.

All of you who are buying these tokens are going to lose.

I think due to the ease of creating not just fake identities, but multiple fake identities, and inputting them into this type of system makes points 1-3 more or less ineffective.

4 (the bounty) I think is a good idea and could have some effect, though how effective people will be tracking down fake identities without the support of a police database and the ability to legally conduct raids on private property etc I am not sure. I think 4 is likely to be ineffective.

I still think you should be using an existing coin and not creating your own.

I think WeTrust will fail, but, I dont want this to make you feel disappointed or anything, use my negativity to give you the energy required to go out and prove me wrong, because, I would love to be proven wrong. I like the idea of having a de-centralized bank but I just dont think it will work, ESPECIALLY when your creating a new token instead of using an existing one.

Time will tell.

*edit*

OR, before your ICO you could cancel it, listen to me (fat chance right? lol), change your plan to develop the software but use as existing coin (ie, you could work with Dash or someone), then launch the ICO again. Then you would not only get the support of people that would have supported you for this, but also the supporters of Dash (or whatever coin you chose) because they know your software, if it works, will increase the value of the token they already hold.

Even then I still think it will fail but you will have a snowballs chance in hell at least.

WeTrust has failed Coinbase's Securities Law Framework scoring guidelines (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1808859.msg18016771#msg18016771).

Thanks for your thoughts! One can multiple fake identities but it may not be easy to convince your friends to join this group that has some unknown identities.  It comes down to how you would be able to convince other people (friends, trusted associates) to participate with you in this ROSCA circle. That would be difficult, because they would be able to see the email account, want to know their names, meet them etc...

At this time, you can invite others, and get invited to a Trusted Lending Circle, so you won't have the opportunity to interact with someone you do not know. The concept of a lending circle (aka rosca) is very different from lending club where you interact with strangers. In a Trusted Lending Circle, you verify that you know these participants before joining. Is that helpful? thanks!

I hate the coin just use the big name to backed his project and sell that name to gain more hype and demands. This so sucks in my mind.

both project seem to be a good project, both of them has a potential to boom, but since they are both new in this field we can not say what will be the outcome until we both see them in competition at the cryptomarket.

ico early opening time edgelass able to get 40k eth within 40 minutes was incredible. I am sure this success ico we trust will also be successful later

Not particularly. If your lending between your close friends, you could just do it in person or over the phone no need for a new coin or software.

If the "circle" is more a local town or city, then your back with people getting info off facebook and forging ID's.

So i'm sorry but I still think project is doomed unfortunately.

If you got funds to invest and to take risks, then invest on both the projects and hold for some time till you get good returns, it will be safe to book profits if any of the tokens price gets pumped to x2 or more. Take out your principle amount invested that is, if things go well. All the best!

Though the WeTrust ICO has been postponed by 24hrs I will like to see their performance, the first hour performance is key for this project because of their first day bonus.

Edgeless ICO hit its minimum target in less than 24hours.

I believe wetrust will be a successful project and collect more than 1k btc

Easy to do when the beneficiaries borrow ETH (or BTC), then buy the ICO from themselves, thus they can pay back the loan and keep the ICO tokens.

So we end up with the insiders secretly owning most of the supply. Since they don't really need the maximum they allow to raise for their expenses. It is one big scam. And you all fall for it every time.

P.S. credit @smooth for first making me aware of this in 2015.

Too early to speculate about 'pumps' :o

I choose both wetrust and edgeless. They have different project, the same goals. Lets just watch and observe this once the project will send. Because I beleive their is a future ahead.

Its difficult to pick between the two distinct projects as others have already said but not to bias I believe the Edgeless project can easily blossom into a rewarding investment because the casino industry is an eminent place for cryptocurriencies.

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say this out loud everyday...

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Its hard to choose between wetrust and edgeless. If you look into each seems they have a good project. I beleive in wetrust and edgeless goals, so lets see what will happen next after the Ico ends.

I decided not to pick any, but it seems the market has spoken. The first day performance of both project is impressive both have mit their minimum cap.

WeTrust vs Edgeless ?


It´s like  fish vs meat

Yep,both are tasty and have their own taste :D :D :D

 ;D ;D and both are completely different

if I choose edgeless but I did not participate in the holding ico. only on the bounty of his campaign, if there I think there is no risk that must be my responsibility

They are both good project, I like edgeless a bit more because they are revolutionary 0% house edge casino, never heard this before, right?

Yes, such projects have not yet been. It will surely be successful project.

yes hopefully successful, edgeless is my opinion the best casino site with 0% house edge and transparent

Cool. Too bad I can't vote. I like both projects but if I will pick only one i'll go for the revolutionary Edgeless. I really wish this as the future of betting. Bye bye large house edge. :D

You're on the bounty, dude. but look at the vdice. Their vslice not meaning something right now, I think there is no a lot of the gaps among edgeless and vdice.

I think the only difference is in the position of the two projects, casino gambling and to finance the business. Performance may I prefer with edgeless, because he was very quick in taking steps that best and how they serve investors will respond not only that they are also very quick for someone to buy edgeless and invest, they do not have to wait for a few days or wait ICO ends for mendaptkan it, just wait a few hours to invest and directly to the wallet for it.

I think edgeless will fly first rocketed to trading sites, because they make the system very quickly the time difference with Wetrust maybe they do not want to linger longer at the ICO project and will not allow big investors wait for the site to their trade, things are very ICO different in other projects that they have to wait in the long term and make investors saturated.

I like the concept of Edgeless ,since we can get back the profit with the use of the token

Over the last couple of days since both The Wetrust & Edgeless Projects kick started their ICOs, My opinion & choice have also changed. Although both projects are not related in any way (Edgeless for the gambling industry & Wetrust for the Loan trust circles). I want to believe both projects will do very well regardless of the ICO success.


I'll be looking forward to how both projects develops after the crowdfund. I cannot chose yet coz for one, I'm a gambler & I'm also overly interested in what Wetrust is building.

I'll def be testing out Blackjack on edgeless when it comes out, I work at a casino deal the game and know strategy well i still know that a bit of luck is involved when it comes to gambling but 0% house edge should def be good for players that know the game.

I believe if the future of edgeless will be like the vdice project, with a little demand. But it seems like the bitcoin still make a domination for the world of gamble. I never try to gamble.  :-X

None of the above

I think they are not interesting

they arecompletely different projects how to compare

yeah i can't see how they are related, one is a casino and the other is a lender service based on the blockchain, nothing to do with each other

I think both projects are okay, there are able to gain the market trust and hit their minimum fund cap on the first day. I can compared both since both are in different industry

Simply, these two projects carry out a campaign to raise funds at one time, there is nothing in common between them

Well yeah, they are both good and I saw something like this before, if I'm not mistaken someone is comparing Qtum and Chronobank. Most of the people are choosing chronobank and upon seeing it's progress, many are starting to dump TIME tokens.


You nailed it.

it was different with my opinion, I think it's better edgeless if viewed from the programs offered, but whatever it was let's see you later at the same final results after they finished ico from there we will see

This is why I think WeTrust has the competitive advantage.

well this is the reason I chose Wetrust.
Wetrust is a good project and are willing to pay high fees.
I like it  ;D

Invested in both, work in a casino so part of me really wants edgeless to succeed but im more invested in wetrust looking forward to both projects keep it up!

Most? I don't think so because the dev must prove his development about the implementation of the labourX and labourH. I think it's including on the long-term implementation with unknown difficulties.
With 700k supply of the coin and how it works and let see.

I do not think anything about wetrust, but can only say what you think he is good, because they are part of the project, if it says a bad word about their own projects he might be tantamount to killing the project itself. so let's see how it goes after the end of the ICO more promising and better edgeless or wetrust.  :D :D

Here at WeTrust, we believe that the blockchain can be used for social good. As a demonstration of our commitment to that mission, we recently organized a Trusted Charity Circle (inspired by Trusted Lending Circles) on the WeTrust platform. Here’s how it works:

1. During each week of the Charity Circle, each member will contribute 5 Ether into the pool
2. One member of the group will be selected at random as the winner of the Ether pool each week, with no member winning the pot more than once
3. The recipient of the funds for that week then donates the proceeds to a charity of their choice
4. Over the course of the 5 week period, every week each person ends up contributing 25 Ether to the charity of their choice

The purpose of taking these actions above, is to demonstrate for the first time that the WeTrust Platform is capable of supporting similar use cases where participants collaborate transparently as a group in a financial endeavor, contributes tokens, and receives tokens distributed back to them over time, without the need for a trusted third party. One can imagine all the new ways application developers will use these improved capabilities to build decentralized applications.

We’re very lucky to have some major movers and shakers in the blockchain world generously agreeing to participate in our Trusted Charity Circle. Thank you: Matthew Roszak (https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewroszak) of Bloq/ Tally Capital, Jeremy Gardner (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jg1578/) of Blockchain Capital/ Auger, David Johnston (https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidajohnston/) of Factom, Emin Gun Sirer (https://www.linkedin.com/in/emin-gun-sirer-0a921a4/) of Cornell, and George (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ligeorge/) our co-founder!

invested in both.......

I like both projects. I voted Edgeless because of its uniqueness. Something that will surely drive gamblers crazy.

Very nice info, gold is indeed stunning, high value and very stable

Good Info,this should help the crowdsale with more people on board

It seems WeTrust people have taken over this thread, maybe is because Edgeless ICO is over. I think both project is huge but both are in a competitive market.

Yes, both are great projects and having a successful ICO too. Though Wetrust.io is not yet finish but it is already a success and even Vitalik is talking about it.Hile edgeless is in gambling / casino wetrust.io is on different league. I maybe bias but I am in favor on wetrust.io as myself is not a gambler though i play occasionally. ;)

did see a lot of say from both WeTrust and edgeless equally good, but I would support edgeless about this, because Edgelass very clear from the ICO, although edgeless is a project of gambling, I do not munafiik for me to gamble using Bitcoin though not every time and just try to have fun for a while to play on gambling sites. :D

The problem with the wetrust lending system is the same as with btcjam and other online lending platforms. I don't see how could they solve these ones.
On the other hand i can't say nothing about Edgeless because i haven't followed it.

For Edgeless, the ICO is already over and they collected 60k+ ETH  with black jack beta launch,hope to see some developments coming on in the next few months

It means according to the ico result and looks like the wetrust project is very promising project in the future. But I think the edgeless project need a lot of the effort to get his popularity.

Both project with high potential but in different segment

There's some things to consider to choice or spend money on an investment, one of them is about our need. If you love to gambling, well, you'll find away to analyze some gambling develover's project to invest like edgeless. But if you think about financial future assurance, wetrust is one you can choose.
This both are good, but for my personal opinion I choose wetrust. Because they have a familiar name there like Vitalik as the advisor.

i invested in both, why?`where has always bin the biggest profit? lending and gambling

they both give a unique touch to these industries. i hope for the best. icos are a gamble themself sadly.

i also invest in both. Both projects target on different markets. It's personal preference..  ;)

wow, congratulations for participating bounty and signature campaign edgeless, I put on a receiving salary  ;D ;D

and We Trust please be patient because it briefly again also payday,,,,

Voted for edgeless.

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pick on edgeless, i think gambling project with some good development can make it success and it is proven by there are investors that invest on this project maybe edgeless will success like Vslice too because both of it use gambling platform

Both are very good  project but I prefere Edgeless

the world needs a gambling platform with no house for its the only way we can really say its fair. trading coins is becoming serious for everyone and having an entertainment like what edgeless can offer is more important than that lending wetrust. once it acquire license, edgeless will shoot the stars.

I choose (and have invested in) edgeless. I think it is a really good proces, the first in it's niche. Lots of potential, because gambling goes hand in hand with bitcoin on many occasions. WeTrust had a very good ICO, but i dont believe lending them would work as they want it to. But it might evolve into an awsome project aswell.
But my vote goes to Edgeless.

If edgeless compare with we trust i am sure tu choice edgeless. Why? Because edg token use for gamblign. There is many people like gambling in around the world. So if must choice i will choice edgeless.

Do you know gain of EDGE after just few month? I already gained 9X of my initial investment in terms of USD. Similarly 11X with Wetrust. On average from 2 projects return is 10X already. I am sure it will go 5 times more if they get listed on Polo and Edge start to distribute profit to its holder.

Some one calculated on Redit the monthly profit share can be as much as 1 ether for every 15000 Edgeless every month.