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Title: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: s0nix on February 25, 2017, 11:57:53 PM
Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad

Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference Friday, President Trump took his anti-media rhetoric to a new level, doubling down on his description of journalists as “the enemy of the people” and calling for an end to the use of anonymous sources. This on a day when his press secretary Sean Spicer barred reporters from The New York Times, BBC, BuzzFeed News, CNN, Politico, The Los Angeles Times and The Huffington Post from his daily White House press briefing.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/25/opinion/trump-is-damaging-press-freedom-in-the-us-and-abroad.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

So what do you think about it. Says Trump the truth? Writes the press the truth? Or both are wrong?


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Spendulus on February 26, 2017, 01:39:18 AM
Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad

Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference Friday, President Trump took his anti-media rhetoric to a new level, doubling down on his description of journalists as “the enemy of the people” and calling for an end to the use of anonymous sources. This on a day when his press secretary Sean Spicer barred reporters from The New York Times, BBC, BuzzFeed News, CNN, Politico, The Los Angeles Times and The Huffington Post from his daily White House press briefing.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/25/opinion/trump-is-damaging-press-freedom-in-the-us-and-abroad.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

So what do you think about it. Says Trump the truth? Writes the press the truth? Or both are wrong?


Huh?

Who says we need a "White House press briefing?"

This is the year 2017.  The news from the White House can simply be put on the internet for anyone to read and/or opine on.

The organizations you mentioned can do that too.  So they've lost nothing.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Moloch on February 26, 2017, 02:35:07 AM
https://pics.onsizzle.com/do-you-know-who-else-discredited-the-media-lenin-stalin-14727262.png


Quote from: Mark Twain
If you don’t read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sr.Urbanist on February 26, 2017, 02:36:57 AM
Who says we need a "White House press briefing?"

It started with Roosevelt on the back of the train.  Throughout this time journalism turned into a professional that strictly reported facts.  Now, it's spin ... spin ....  

This is the year 2017.

It's also 1428 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar).

The news from the White House can simply be put on the internet for anyone to read and/or opine on.

Dangerous.

I work for government.  I have also worked for the press.  It's important and accessible.  The press ask the difficult questions also help management understand the pressing issues of the community.  It can also be a great propaganda tool ... is it seems to be devolving towards.  I blame it on SEO and Google for "backlinks", which encourages looking circular.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Tyrantt on February 26, 2017, 03:49:14 AM
Buzzfeed is pure cancer. CNN and BBC lost their value in my eyes, and I believe in a lot of people too. I was reading through some CNN headlines and boy oh boy is it stupid... They'll twist everything, it's gotten out of hand. You can't compare Trumps media situation with Hitlers or Stalins, it's a completely different thing.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sr.Urbanist on February 26, 2017, 03:59:24 AM
Buzzfeed is pure cancer. CNN and BBC lost their value in my eyes, and I believe in a lot of people too. I was reading through some CNN headlines and boy oh boy is it stupid... They'll twist everything, it's gotten out of hand.

It's called the 2nd amendment!  You can say whatever you want: por ejemplo, "comma splices".  :-\

The problem is cutting off access.  It's frustrating being taken out of context and misquoated as City Official "X" ... when you did not know the story context and sound like a fool.  That's why it's important to have a good relationship with the press.

You can't compare Trumps media situation with Hitlers or Stalins, it's a completely different thing.

Again.  2nd Amendment Dude!  Can say whatever s/he wants, like co**suc*erbal**. Entiendies?



Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: BADecker on February 26, 2017, 03:59:59 AM
Besides, the only way you know what Trump says is through the media. If you don't sit right in his office and listen to him, you get it through the media. Just because it happens to be Trump's media this time...

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Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sithara007 on February 26, 2017, 05:22:26 AM
Buzzfeed is pure cancer. CNN and BBC lost their value in my eyes, and I believe in a lot of people too. I was reading through some CNN headlines and boy oh boy is it stupid... They'll twist everything, it's gotten out of hand. You can't compare Trumps media situation with Hitlers or Stalins, it's a completely different thing.

Do you remember the CNN putting a Halo over Hillary's head?

http://cdn.newsbusters.org/images/2016-06-09-cnn-nd-hillary_clinton_sparkling.jpg

Trump just gave them what they deserved. Now they can cry and whine about it for another four long years.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Fortify on February 26, 2017, 10:48:15 AM
Buzzfeed is pure cancer. CNN and BBC lost their value in my eyes, and I believe in a lot of people too. I was reading through some CNN headlines and boy oh boy is it stupid... They'll twist everything, it's gotten out of hand. You can't compare Trumps media situation with Hitlers or Stalins, it's a completely different thing.

Yes, we should only read things that agree with the president, we must be a good little comrade and not offend Dear Leader. Trump has been a trainwreck over the last few weeks - this is only good news for America's enemies.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: xskl0 on February 26, 2017, 10:56:18 AM
Trump is right, frequently press write what they want without being objective.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sithara007 on February 26, 2017, 10:58:47 AM
Buzzfeed is pure cancer. CNN and BBC lost their value in my eyes, and I believe in a lot of people too. I was reading through some CNN headlines and boy oh boy is it stupid... They'll twist everything, it's gotten out of hand. You can't compare Trumps media situation with Hitlers or Stalins, it's a completely different thing.

Yes, we should only read things that agree with the president, we must be a good little comrade and not offend Dear Leader. Trump has been a trainwreck over the last few weeks - this is only good news for America's enemies.

I don't have anything against fair criticism. But the media went overboard, spreading lies and unsubstantiated rumors about the Trump administration. The best example is the recent order suspending immigration from seven countries. The media portrayed it as some sort of a Muslim ban.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Xester on February 26, 2017, 12:24:36 PM
Trump isnt damaging press freedom but he is wary and alarmed about how press are being controlled by politics. Press are no longer free but gives a biased report due to the control of their masters who are also in politics. Hilary Clinton has a huge connection and control on the majority of the News networks in the United States of America and she is using it to destroy Trump. It is right for Trump to target the current condition of the media which is no longer free but corrupted by politics.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Emoclaw on February 26, 2017, 12:31:02 PM
All they did was block out cancer, this does not damage press freedom.
Unless they also blocked the Associated Press and Reuters, which are some of the very few unbiased media outlets, THEN it'd be a problem.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sithara007 on February 26, 2017, 01:03:40 PM
All they did was block out cancer, this does not damage press freedom.
Unless they also blocked the Associated Press and Reuters, which are some of the very few unbiased media outlets, THEN it'd be a problem.

The Democrats have always considered the Associated Press (and especially its diplomatic writer Matt Lee) as a thorn in their flesh. Also, you must watch the former state department spokesman John Kirby bullying Gayane Chichakyan of the RT, to get a better idea of the intolerance shown by the Democrats to the media.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: MattScott on February 26, 2017, 01:21:23 PM
All they did was block out cancer, this does not damage press freedom.
Unless they also blocked the Associated Press and Reuters, which are some of the very few unbiased media outlets, THEN it'd be a problem.

The Democrats have always considered the Associated Press (and especially its diplomatic writer Matt Lee) as a thorn in their flesh. Also, you must watch the former state department spokesman John Kirby bullying Gayane Chichakyan of the RT, to get a better idea of the intolerance shown by the Democrats to the media.
The us government can take the decision to withdraw the United States from the UN Council on human rights. This issue is currently being considered in the administration of Donald trump.
The new team in the White house will be determined by membership in this organization in the near future. It is known that the final decision on this matter will be attended us President, the Ambassador to Washington at the UN, Nikki Haley and Secretary Rex Tillerson


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: criptix on February 26, 2017, 01:35:12 PM
Good to see that most people here give a shit about freedom of the press and free speech.
But well who wonders east europeans dont have that link with free press especially our dear russian friends.

Btw. Fact is that on average trump lies 3 times in every press conference - i think die lügenpresse could learn a lot from trump lol


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Mometaskers on February 26, 2017, 04:05:48 PM
Wait till you get to our situation here in the Philippines...


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Daniel91 on February 26, 2017, 04:24:33 PM
Yes, I agree that Trump will damage press freedom but it's not all.
He will damage human rights of many people in America, specially people without legal papers.
He will damage trade relationships with EU, China, Canada, Mexico, many other countries as well.
He will damage international security as well, weaken NATO etc.
I'm afraid that next US president will have very difficult job to repair it.




Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: mainpmf on February 26, 2017, 05:30:44 PM
Good to see that most people here give a shit about freedom of the press and free speech.
But well who wonders east europeans dont have that link with free press especially our dear russian friends.

Btw. Fact is that on average trump lies 3 times in every press conference - i think die lügenpresse could learn a lot from trump lol

Lol that's what I see!

They just whine about how press treated unfairly Trump...
And how that's normal to see Trump banging press freedom in response.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sr.Urbanist on February 26, 2017, 06:21:56 PM
Wait till you get to our situation here in the Philippines...

You have a drug war, right? 


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sr.Urbanist on February 26, 2017, 06:24:08 PM
Do you remember the CNN putting a Halo over Hillary's head?

http://cdn.newsbusters.org/images/2016-06-09-cnn-nd-hillary_clinton_sparkling.jpg

Trump just gave them what they deserved. Now they can cry and whine about it for another four long years.

I did not.  I did not vote for her, either. To be fair ... Trump did raise good point about the system being stacked against the Sanders.  I voted Stein (Green Party).


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Idrisu on February 26, 2017, 07:23:00 PM
Trump did not attack the media as is spreading around on media. I watched the program live on cnn. He said " I am not against the media  but against the fake news media house". I was telling my friend that CNN is fake news because immediately trump said am against the fake news, CNN post on their breaking news that "Trump attack the media again".


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Maximilian_333 on February 26, 2017, 07:39:03 PM
Trump makes statements that contradict one another. It is not possible to understand. It seems to me that he did not quite understand what he says. His attacks on the press more similar to the reaction of offended little child than the reaction of the President of America.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sr.Urbanist on February 26, 2017, 08:23:22 PM
Trump did not attack the media as is spreading around on media. I watched the program live on cnn. He said " I am not against the media  but against the fake news media house". I was telling my friend that CNN is fake news because immediately trump said am against the fake news, CNN post on their breaking news that "Trump attack the media again".

It's frustrating because I work in government and it's important for the media to say things how they want and not you.  My blood pressure goes up 20 pt when they write "bicyclists" and not "person riding a bicycle." But it's important they don't just copy verbatum what the government wants them to say, but gets other perspectives.

Good for CNN.  The media needs to be free to say as they please.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: BADecker on February 26, 2017, 11:32:43 PM
White House: Feds will step up marijuana law enforcement (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/213431-2017-02-26-white-house-feds-will-step-up-marijuana-law-enforcement.htm)


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"I do believe you will see greater enforcement of it," White House press secretary Sean Spicer said regarding federal drug laws, which still list marijuana as an illegal substance.

That's a reversal from the Obama administration's stance, which laid out in an official memo that the federal government wouldn't interfere in states where nonmedical use of marijuana is allowed.

That guidance was issued after two states -- Colorado and Washington -- voted to legalize recreational use of marijuana. Obama said in the immediate aftermath of those votes that the federal government had "bigger fish to fry" than cracking down on marijuana use in states where it's considered legal.

Most drug enforcement operations are carried out by state and local authorities, with little involvement by the federal government. Enforcing marijuana laws has been considered a lower priority for federal drug agents, who have remained focused on curbing narcotics trafficking and combating a nationwide epidemic of opioid abuse.


Read more and listen to the video at http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/23/politics/white-house-marijuana-donald-trump-pot/.


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President Trump: Legalizing Drugs Will End the Violent Cartels (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/213432-2017-02-26-president-trump-legalizing-drugs-will-end-the-violent-cartels.htm)


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If you didn't hear about this, it's because virtually the entire mainstream media has been silent about it. The mainstream media is owned by just six corporations and relies for the bulk of its funding on pharmaceutical advertisers.

In a report from High Times, President Trump is referenced as stating that he is "a hundred percent" in favor of medical marijuana and added that legalizing it is "good in some ways."

The comment was made during an interview conducted by Bill O'Reilly while Trump was still a candidate, and indicated to many people that he had an open mind on the matter.


Read more at http://livingresistance.com/2017/02/22/president-trump-legalizing-drugs-will-end-violent-cartels/.


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Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sithara007 on February 27, 2017, 02:27:53 AM
Trump did not attack the media as is spreading around on media. I watched the program live on cnn. He said " I am not against the media  but against the fake news media house". I was telling my friend that CNN is fake news because immediately trump said am against the fake news, CNN post on their breaking news that "Trump attack the media again".

This is not the first time it has happened. The liberal media outlets such as CNN, BBC, and MSNBC have intentionally misrepresented and lied about Trump's views, and have taken his quotes out of context. They should be ashamed of themselves.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Hazir on February 27, 2017, 03:06:04 AM
This is not the first time it has happened. The liberal media outlets such as CNN, BBC, and MSNBC have intentionally misrepresented and lied about Trump's views, and have taken his quotes out of context. They should be ashamed of themselves.
This is the truth. Please stop believing that major news TV channels are speaking the truth. Media are not free and are controlled and owned by just six corporations.
They manipulate the truth, lie and distort reality to back up their crooked narration. Even Facebook and other social media services has advanced censorship build in.
Mainstream Media has been against Trump from the start, there were shredding his image by using omissions, lies and scripting.




Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: BCEmporium on February 27, 2017, 04:26:17 AM
Trump is not damaging any press freedom, he's playing a game where press damages itself.

Confuse? Well, let me unfold this:

- The crying babies that can't get to WH aren't losing their "press freedom", because get into a place isn't part of it - it's like if something happened at your place and you don't let a reporter get into your house; it's your right. Losing press freedom would be if they were forced to write something on someway.

Moving on:

His intent is to provoke the press into do what it has been doing since he became candidate to be candidate to POTUS: let press chasing its tail.
For an instance, we're now seeing a lot of debate about Fake News and press start shouting their Facts. Well, Fake News aren't necessarily fake, they might be just irrelevant, as irrelevant news aren't news to start with - such as making a fuss around his hair or whatever in an attempt to portrait him as a something.
When the press engages this methods for too long it slowly burns its credibility, burns itself.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sithara007 on February 27, 2017, 04:39:28 AM
Trump is not damaging any press freedom, he's playing a game where press damages itself.

Confuse? Well, let me unfold this:

- The crying babies that can't get to WH aren't losing their "press freedom", because get into a place isn't part of it - it's like if something happened at your place and you don't let a reporter get into your house; it's your right. Losing press freedom would be if they were forced to write something on someway.

Moving on:

His intent is to provoke the press into do what it has been doing since he became candidate to be candidate to POTUS: let press chasing its tail.
For an instance, we're now seeing a lot of debate about Fake News and press start shouting their Facts. Well, Fake News aren't necessarily fake, they might be just irrelevant, as irrelevant news aren't news to start with - such as making a fuss around his hair or whatever in an attempt to portrait him as a something.
When the press engages this methods for too long it slowly burns its credibility, burns itself.

I have seen opinion polls which say that the majority of the American people distrust the mainstream media. That validates your point. The media tycoons must realize that they can't fool everyone for too long.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: bustedsynx on February 27, 2017, 04:44:36 AM
Proliferation of news media means that Americans can now easily find sources to confirm their pre-existing opinions and others which do not support their views and, as a result, seem to be outrageously biased and distorted. One person’s uncontestable truth is another’s “fake news.” As a result, when President Trump attacks the media, he is preaching to a substantial audience of people who are already converted.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: BCEmporium on February 27, 2017, 05:23:35 AM
@Sithara007,

I don't think it's around the tycoons, but foot reporters. You see, "education" and "brain washing" are nearly synonyms, and most reporters and youth is being brain washed into several views by more or less successful campaigns. You pull their brain washed triggers and they start to act like cockroaches looking for any spot to attack you. Brain washed people tends to become aggressive when their beliefs are put to contest - not an exclusive of religious people.

Like this about the transgender bathrooms. This awkward campaign for their "cause" was input to "education" as something meaningful, mostly by sophism, a rhetoric that should be long dead with Socrates, but 2500 years after it is still in place. It was put in a way that looks like is something to "feel like a woman" (or man) but they never got to think what "feel like woman/man" stands for... and that would be absolutely nothing, it's even odd that someone thinks women or men feels different of each other - other than biological function no surgery can mimic.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: gabmen on February 27, 2017, 10:50:21 AM
Trump did not attack the media as is spreading around on media. I watched the program live on cnn. He said " I am not against the media  but against the fake news media house". I was telling my friend that CNN is fake news because immediately trump said am against the fake news, CNN post on their breaking news that "Trump attack the media again".

This is not the first time it has happened. The liberal media outlets such as CNN, BBC, and MSNBC have intentionally misrepresented and lied about Trump's views, and have taken his quotes out of context. They should be ashamed of themselves.

I think so too. People who obviously are against trump are pulling the strings here to make trump look bad. Even duringbthe campaign period, i saw selective news that if viewed from a different angle, would definitely have a different meaning and can easily be misinterpreted. I'm not a trump supporter but i can tell when a person is deliberately being pulled down


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Spendulus on February 27, 2017, 12:56:22 PM
Trump did not attack the media as is spreading around on media. I watched the program live on cnn. He said " I am not against the media  but against the fake news media house". I was telling my friend that CNN is fake news because immediately trump said am against the fake news, CNN post on their breaking news that "Trump attack the media again".

This is not the first time it has happened. The liberal media outlets such as CNN, BBC, and MSNBC have intentionally misrepresented and lied about Trump's views, and have taken his quotes out of context. They should be ashamed of themselves.

I think so too. People who obviously are against trump are pulling the strings here to make trump look bad. Even duringbthe campaign period, i saw selective news that if viewed from a different angle, would definitely have a different meaning and can easily be misinterpreted. I'm not a trump supporter but i can tell when a person is deliberately being pulled down

Coming on the heels of eight years of the media uncritically praising Obama and his lies, such as "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctcor," the media is not going to find much sympathy.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: MattScott on February 27, 2017, 01:08:56 PM
Trump did not attack the media as is spreading around on media. I watched the program live on cnn. He said " I am not against the media  but against the fake news media house". I was telling my friend that CNN is fake news because immediately trump said am against the fake news, CNN post on their breaking news that "Trump attack the media again".

This is not the first time it has happened. The liberal media outlets such as CNN, BBC, and MSNBC have intentionally misrepresented and lied about Trump's views, and have taken his quotes out of context. They should be ashamed of themselves.

I think so too. People who obviously are against trump are pulling the strings here to make trump look bad. Even duringbthe campaign period, i saw selective news that if viewed from a different angle, would definitely have a different meaning and can easily be misinterpreted. I'm not a trump supporter but i can tell when a person is deliberately being pulled down
The media are working people too. Moreover, they constantly monitor the activities of political parties and figures and so I know more information than other people. Why do you think they can't work to have an opinion. If they knew from the beginning that Trump is a clown why should they increase his rating?


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: squatz1 on February 27, 2017, 01:55:39 PM
This is just another one of the false narratives that the left attempts to spew, they're going to say that Trump is "Destroying the 1st amendment" "Destroying Free Speech" and so on and so forth, but they're just trying to hide the fact that the MSM today is one of the most biased and disgusting organizations out their. They've turned into a political machine for the democratic party (minus FOX) and the left feels they must protect them from losing their grasp and power as it affects them too.

Trump isnt damaging press freedom but he is wary and alarmed about how press are being controlled by politics. Press are no longer free but gives a biased report due to the control of their masters who are also in politics. Hilary Clinton has a huge connection and control on the majority of the News networks in the United States of America and she is using it to destroy Trump. It is right for Trump to target the current condition of the media which is no longer free but corrupted by politics.

Press has never been free and free of bias, it's just now that the people have had their eyes opened relating to how biased and political the press really is.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: allthingsluxury on February 27, 2017, 02:58:17 PM
The MSM has completely discredited themselves to the majority of Americans and the world. There is a reason why they have a historically low approval rating. They went 100% in the tank for Hillary and lost big time. They are still in war mode and they need to realize that they need to come back to reality. They lost. Move on, or they risk completely discrediting themselves.

You can't blame Trump for attempting to strike back against they completely biased, globalist stooges.



Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Marcus_2017 on February 27, 2017, 03:23:37 PM
The MSM has completely discredited themselves to the majority of Americans and the world. There is a reason why they have a historically low approval rating. They went 100% in the tank for Hillary and lost big time. They are still in war mode and they need to realize that they need to come back to reality. They lost. Move on, or they risk completely discrediting themselves.

You can't blame Trump for attempting to strike back against they completely biased, globalist stooges.


Actually, this problem should be approached comprehensively. I wouldn't deny an interest in the victory of Trump, but at the same time we should not exaggerate the Russian track. I think that Russia probably has an impact on the environment than Trump himself. In any case, Russia is and always will be an enemy of America.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: BCEmporium on February 27, 2017, 03:44:01 PM
Russia is and always will be an enemy a rival of America.

Let's put it this way, they never engaged or been at war with each other, they're both super-powers trying to keep their political spheres.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: criptix on February 27, 2017, 03:49:36 PM
Russia is and always will be an enemy a rival of America.

Let's put it this way, they never engaged or been at war with each other, they're both super-powers trying to keep their political spheres.

Cold war had enough proxy wars between them.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: BCEmporium on February 27, 2017, 03:50:57 PM
They will undermine each other attempts, but not in a way of direct engaging each other. Specially because that would pulverize them both along with half of the planet. Would be just senseless.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Barrymore on February 27, 2017, 05:25:54 PM
Russia is and always will be an enemy a rival of America.

Let's put it this way, they never engaged or been at war with each other, they're both super-powers trying to keep their political spheres.
I wouldn't call Russia a superpower. It's a big territory, but absolutely retarded on the economy of the country. The budget of almost any state in the United States more than the entire budget of Russia. Another thing is that Russia saves money on social needs of the population and sends them to the defense industry. Russia does big media invests in the creation of the image of a superpower. In fact it is not.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: KingScorpio on February 27, 2017, 09:51:09 PM
Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad

Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference Friday, President Trump took his anti-media rhetoric to a new level, doubling down on his description of journalists as “the enemy of the people” and calling for an end to the use of anonymous sources. This on a day when his press secretary Sean Spicer barred reporters from The New York Times, BBC, BuzzFeed News, CNN, Politico, The Los Angeles Times and The Huffington Post from his daily White House press briefing.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/25/opinion/trump-is-damaging-press-freedom-in-the-us-and-abroad.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

So what do you think about it. Says Trump the truth? Writes the press the truth? Or both are wrong?


press freedom in the us disapeared long time ago, it got under control by george soros and his slaves, george soros is the palpetine of our current media system, and trump is in war with them, the big media corporations have their shareholders they appoint the bosses and decide the policy through that they controll the masses big capital controlls the media.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sr.Urbanist on February 27, 2017, 10:21:34 PM
Russia is and always will be an enemy a rival of America.

Let's put it this way, they never engaged or been at war with each other, they're both super-powers trying to keep their political spheres.
I wouldn't call Russia a superpower. It's a big territory, but absolutely retarded on the economy of the country. The budget of almost any state in the United States more than the entire budget of Russia. Another thing is that Russia saves money on social needs of the population and sends them to the defense industry. Russia does big media invests in the creation of the image of a superpower. In fact it is not.

I have Russian friends.  They are great people.  It is terrible that they must live under Putin.

They were the first in space, still have a space program(!), recently developed a stealth fighter, have caused power disruptions to much of the old eastern block like Estonia, interfered with foreign elections, hacked the US's DNC, currently have the largest group of active hack-robbers, taken land from a severn nation and not changed President in nearly 20 years.

I would not underestimate Russia nor their influence to disrupt the world order to create a "post-West" society.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Spendulus on February 27, 2017, 10:52:38 PM
Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad

Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference Friday, President Trump took his anti-media rhetoric to a new level, doubling down on his description of journalists as “the enemy of the people” and calling for an end to the use of anonymous sources. This on a day when his press secretary Sean Spicer barred reporters from The New York Times, BBC, BuzzFeed News, CNN, Politico, The Los Angeles Times and The Huffington Post from his daily White House press briefing.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/25/opinion/trump-is-damaging-press-freedom-in-the-us-and-abroad.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

So what do you think about it. Says Trump the truth? Writes the press the truth? Or both are wrong?


press freedom in the us disapeared long time ago, it got under control by george soros and his slaves, george soros is the palpetine of our current media system, and trump is in war with them....
It's about time.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Racey on February 28, 2017, 12:56:47 AM
The MSM has damaged it's own rep, especially with the repetitive lies.
They falsely accuse with no hard credible evidence this they have been doing for years.

And only now the majority are waking up, but many are still asleep, and do they give a damn, no, they love being wrapped up in cotton wool not even thinking themselves, i pity the people who do not know otherwise. (head in the sand type)

Not talking about Trump here, but he knows, as do many other, about the gutter press.

The more they continue to lie, the more people see through it.
And lol at those self adorning stuck up pricks, at the Oscars, they know sod all.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sithara007 on February 28, 2017, 02:03:50 AM
Russia is and always will be an enemy a rival of America.

Let's put it this way, they never engaged or been at war with each other, they're both super-powers trying to keep their political spheres.
I wouldn't call Russia a superpower. It's a big territory, but absolutely retarded on the economy of the country. The budget of almost any state in the United States more than the entire budget of Russia. Another thing is that Russia saves money on social needs of the population and sends them to the defense industry. Russia does big media invests in the creation of the image of a superpower. In fact it is not.

ROFLMAO.... So perhaps we should now call your poverty stricken nation (Ukraine) a superpower. The defense sector is a major revenue earner for Russia. It employs millions of Russians and a large part of the GDP comes from the export of defense equipment.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: criptix on February 28, 2017, 11:45:54 AM
Russia is and always will be an enemy a rival of America.

Let's put it this way, they never engaged or been at war with each other, they're both super-powers trying to keep their political spheres.
I wouldn't call Russia a superpower. It's a big territory, but absolutely retarded on the economy of the country. The budget of almost any state in the United States more than the entire budget of Russia. Another thing is that Russia saves money on social needs of the population and sends them to the defense industry. Russia does big media invests in the creation of the image of a superpower. In fact it is not.

ROFLMAO.... So perhaps we should now call your poverty stricken nation (Ukraine) a superpower. The defense sector is a major revenue earner for Russia. It employs millions of Russians and a large part of the GDP comes from the export of defense equipment.

And thats why russia is just a regional power. All they do is sell weapons and oil.
Oil prices nearly bankrupted russia.
If there wasnt syria they wouldnt even be able to sell their weapons.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: joebrook on February 28, 2017, 11:55:23 AM
With the press always reporting falsehood about him, why should he care about what they say. They spill falsehoods all the time.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Mometaskers on February 28, 2017, 02:53:43 PM
Wait till you get to our situation here in the Philippines...

You have a drug war, right?  

Not just that, they're already trying to get rid of the opposition. Senate was a mess yesterday.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Red Fish on February 28, 2017, 04:44:30 PM
Just think how old is Trump - around 70 years old. Most possible he get some negative reply from media some years ago and now he is doing this back. At this age - 70 years, he can do much more things like that. 


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Tyrantt on March 01, 2017, 01:25:28 AM
The MSM has completely discredited themselves to the majority of Americans and the world. There is a reason why they have a historically low approval rating. They went 100% in the tank for Hillary and lost big time. They are still in war mode and they need to realize that they need to come back to reality. They lost. Move on, or they risk completely discrediting themselves.

You can't blame Trump for attempting to strike back against they completely biased, globalist stooges.


Actually, this problem should be approached comprehensively. I wouldn't deny an interest in the victory of Trump, but at the same time we should not exaggerate the Russian track. I think that Russia probably has an impact on the environment than Trump himself. In any case, Russia is and always will be an enemy of America.

If USA and Russia were enemies there would already be war out there. Those are two major forces, being rivals from WW and it stayed that way. They never had any direct war and never will because that would be like hell broke loose.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sithara007 on March 01, 2017, 02:20:09 AM
If USA and Russia were enemies there would already be war out there. Those are two major forces, being rivals from WW and it stayed that way. They never had any direct war and never will because that would be like hell broke loose.

Superpowers will never confront each other directly. That would mean nuclear war, and the end of humanity. Rather than that, they would use proxies to attack their rival. Examples are Ukraine, and Syria.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: ironm@n on March 01, 2017, 02:36:20 AM
If things go that way, I think that some measures taken by Trump can bring instability to the US dollar. This will certainly bring some problems for the economy, but in a way this can help Bitcoin, since more people will see the currency as a better alternative.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: xskl0 on March 01, 2017, 07:48:07 PM
Trump just likes FOX News, at least there is one option to get well informed on TV    ::)


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: GreenBits on March 01, 2017, 08:00:49 PM
Trump just likes FOX News, at least there is one option to get well informed on TV    ::)

And Brietbart. You can't forget Breitbart  ;D

If this wasn't so amusing, all my warning bells would be going off in a way that would keep me up at night. The White House has plainly called the established media liars. The implications of this outceed Russia, IMO.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sithara007 on March 02, 2017, 02:21:29 AM
Trump just likes FOX News, at least there is one option to get well informed on TV    ::)

Trump doesn't trust any of the mainstream media channels, including Fox News. The reverse is also true. Fox News hates Trump, although they don't show their hatred openly. Look at their coverage during mid-2016, and you'll understand.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: BADecker on March 03, 2017, 11:37:48 PM
Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad?

Good! Too long have the Democrat criminals manipulated apparent press freedom in ways that keep press freedom from being real.

Time to Trump manipulate press freedom, so that things get back onto the correct path.

8)


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Lieldoryn on March 04, 2017, 01:18:11 AM
Trump just likes FOX News, at least there is one option to get well informed on TV    ::)

Trump doesn't trust any of the mainstream media channels, including Fox News. The reverse is also true. Fox News hates Trump, although they don't show their hatred openly. Look at their coverage during mid-2016, and you'll understand.
Trump is the first politician I know that it does not use for PR media. More to communicate with the public, he needs media. Don't know how he's going to be President. It seems to me that in such circumstances it is not possible to work.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: eddie13 on March 04, 2017, 01:20:44 AM
Says Trump the truth?

Yep..


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: BADecker on March 04, 2017, 01:23:57 AM

But you'll never know what it is, because he doesn't use PR media.     ;D


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Lancusters on March 04, 2017, 01:41:12 AM
That is why he says one thing today, and tomorrow, quite the opposite. I don't believe him. He has big mental problems. No-one respects him and all trolls. He gets nervous and makes mistakes.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: BCEmporium on March 04, 2017, 01:45:06 AM
That is why he says one thing today, and tomorrow, quite the opposite. I don't believe him. He has big mental problems. No-one respects him and all trolls. He gets nervous and makes mistakes.

It turns quite hard to keep track of what he said and didn't. Specially due to his "harsh" relationship with media, media keeps distorting or "they say he said" kind of stuff.
I personally dislike his appetite for Tweeter. It's ridiculous to use it for politics, sounds like politics made by a 16 yo!


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Sithara007 on March 04, 2017, 06:02:00 AM
I personally dislike his appetite for Tweeter. It's ridiculous to use it for politics, sounds like politics made by a 16 yo!

No. You are wrong. Social media (Twitter, Facebook, and even Instagram) outlets are very useful tools for politicians, due to their wide reach among the younger population. A lot of the world leaders are using the social media quite effectively, and Trump is one of them.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Flamma on March 04, 2017, 07:46:39 AM
This is just plain bull! This is like Martial Law in the Philippines. All media outlets has been blacked out to stop coveribg the real news. This is a right every people should have, access to information. We may have shitty news but we atleast know what's put there. If he does this and a lot of things don't get published, the US will definitely face a difficult future.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Lancusters on March 04, 2017, 12:27:08 PM
I personally dislike his appetite for Tweeter. It's ridiculous to use it for politics, sounds like politics made by a 16 yo!

No. You are wrong. Social media (Twitter, Facebook, and even Instagram) outlets are very useful tools for politicians, due to their wide reach among the younger population. A lot of the world leaders are using the social media quite effectively, and Trump is one of them.
Social networks are not suitable for PR politicians. People there who communicate not perceive the PR politicians. For these purposes, only works to pay for articles and television programs.


Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Daniel91 on March 04, 2017, 04:16:56 PM
This is just plain bull! This is like Martial Law in the Philippines. All media outlets has been blacked out to stop coveribg the real news. This is a right every people should have, access to information. We may have shitty news but we atleast know what's put there. If he does this and a lot of things don't get published, the US will definitely face a difficult future.

Trump know very well how to manipulate public opinion through fake news, social media, conservative newspapers etc.
Before 20 or 30 years main newspapers and TV was only source of info for the people.
With the Internet and social media, anybody can post news and now, we have so many false news that people are confuse and don't know what is truth any more.
For Trump, such situation is perfect for his plan, how to change public opinion and destroy main newspapers as relevant source of info.
After that, I'm afraid that he will ruin any kind of freedom in America.





Title: Re: Trump Is Damaging Press Freedom in the U.S. and Abroad
Post by: Marcus_2017 on March 04, 2017, 04:25:48 PM
U.S. President Donald trump has accused his predecessor, Barack Obama listening to his telephone conversations shortly before his victory and called him the "bad guy". He said this in his microblog on Twitter