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Can we ban useless replies like


they do nothing except to bump up post count and clutter up the forum.

so, free speech as long as you use more than what, 5 words?

Ban useless topics

Ban useless users

They generally are disallowed, though I don't delete them all the time.

I'm going to try and start cracking down on spam a little more... there's just so much of it.

^^^ This. +1  (Sorry, had to.  :D)

If you really want to stop the pointless mini-responses, add ratings for comments like Reddit and pretty much every other social network site in the universe and pretty much all modern forums have. When you upvote a comment, you won't *need* to respond to it.

I don't like the way a certain user posts or responds so lets ban them GRRRRRRR! Holy shit, considering some of you are supposedly proponents of an unregulated free market you sure hate the idea of people having freedom of speech don't you? I don't care what people post as long as it isn't bot spam and virus'.

I thought my '-1' post that got deleted said everything it needed to, that i did not agree

But then i thought my free speech joke was... well a joke...

The irony of it is that most of the deleted posts were put up for exactly that reason.

But, Theymos made his point by deleting them.

Honestly, I don't really care how people respond. Sometimes, "+1" is all that really needs to be said. Upvoting would solve that, but probably be a pain to implement, and they'd likely only show up on the default theme anyway.

A lot of these features suggested by users would be a pain to implement.  He would almost be better off by designing his own board software, with all the bells and whistles needed by a bitcoin-oriented community.

I don't think someone saying "I don't support this" would get deleted, even through it conveys no extra information.

ahh, so free speech in 4 words instead of five, so much better, 3 words is right out though

@tysat i recommend you cool down and don't delete people's replies right and left, even if you see them as nonsensical or spam. Everyone is free to express in their way!

Btw, my reply was a joke to such lame request and posted only once, guess you can't read between the lines.


+1

http://www.fatwallet.com/static/attachments/67371_no_sir_i_dont_like_it.jpg

*Looks for Thumbs Up icon, Star icon, I agree icon*

Ahh Ren and Stimpy is there anything you cannot do?! ;)

I think there is a need for a sort of 'agree' option though, as while most forums that are discussion forums catering to a wide range of things, here there seems to be a lot of support for ideas, which might not be expressed properly given people would have to then add content to their support.

I know of a forum that has a Star system above the post that allows you to star a post rather than reply to it and "+1" or "I agree" - and they get removed as 1 line posts that add nothing to the topic.

An idea such as crypto currency is all about user support, and it would probably help if there was a way to show it, and not clutter the forums..

How that could be done is beyond me, I stick to userscripts for things I need to implement on forums that don't have such features, but that wouldn't work in this case.

But I don't think deleting/banning people for such infringements should be the way to go. Maybe have the forums count words to check for sufficient content, or have an "I understand the rules" tick box if the content really doesn't need padding out with random words to fit the bill. If someone were then to tick the box, and continue to +1 things with no real support, they get the usual hammer of justice.

However, I'm a mere user... I submit to the ways of those wiser than I!

;)

Slashdot? The problem with voting/autohiding systems is that they are subject to manipulation by sockpuppets, and a few missing posts can break up the flow of a conversation.

A subclass of elected moderators called voters could vote down or autohide junk posts and post count pumping. Too much downvoting and a poster could be temporarily hidden or banned from new posts.

No, it's just pathetic that people clutter up the forum with meaningless replies.

Define meaningless please.

Poop.

things that add nothing to the discussion. If all you're doing is making one liners like the ones I mentioned, you're not contributing to the discussion.

Pardon me but you actually responded with a one line answer to my request, I don't really know if you're seeing it as one liner but with my screen resolution of 1680x1050 pixels I do, and is not really adding nothing of importance to our discussion or defining the term "meaningless".

About the oneliners, you can actually take any example you gave previously and you will realize people are able communicate efficiently, with their desires or thoughts, without spending a great deal of time on the language part (protocol). My advice to you would be to develop affinity for people with great communication skills and start ignoring the ones that make a habit on posting low quality content, they will never get the hang of it but there are some exceptions of course.

I could keep babbling like this for a while but I guess you have better things to do and bigger fish to fry, so yeah why not ban you for posts like this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77181.msg857649#msg857649
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74375.msg857668#msg857668
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141795.msg1512290#msg1512290
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143763.msg1524490#msg1524490
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142104.msg1524768#msg1524768
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177991.msg1878169#msg1878169

There are many more here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=5797;sa=showPosts

Besides the obvious ad hominem, your lack of reading comprehension is appalling.

In case if you're too dense to know what I'm referencing: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181885.msg1898778#msg1898778

edit: removed duplicate quotes

^^^ This, +2. A karma system is the only thing that can save us from the Eternal September that is coming.

If you think it's bad now, you have a big shock coming. It will never get this good again. You will look back on the noise & spam we have now with dewy-eyed nostalgia.

Free Speech > Nitpicks.

It's not about restricting free speech. If you (don't) support someone, that's fine. All I ask is not to post replies that add nothing to the conversation.

Exactly.

But you kinda are.  Even posts like "^^^" or "+/-1" express an opinion about a post, even if it's only contributing an opinion of preference.

What you are trying to ban here are short posts that take up screen estate that you think are "useless" (matter of opinion).  So until an option is implemented that allows the voicing of "+/-1" without taking up a post space, it's not right to remove the voice of the community at large.

ban the whole damn forum!

we should totally restrict access to this information to only those who contribute.

make a private forum where only people who can prove they mined a bitcoin in 2009 can finally hangout and only contribute useful threads.

we dont want the masses on board this train anyway...

How about making the maximum font size for the whole post (including the username and stuff associated) be proportional to the character count?




edit: also rescale any images, like the avatar etc and pics posted inside, proportionally to the max fontsize cap


edit2: tags, links etc shouldn't be taken in consideration when counting chars though, too easy to cheat with stuff like that

Maybe not, but banning/deleting posts which you don't agree with, for whatever reason, is to be against freedom of expression.  I can understand spam (as in, real spam,) and I abhor spam, but when someone has nothing to add to a conversation and yet wants to express that they are in agreement (thus cutting redundancy, i.e., Bill speaks his mind, Jane is in complete agreement because she was going to say the same thing, so instead of saying that same thing, she simply +1's), I don't feel it is up to a higher power (the mods and our beloved admin) to enforce a personal tick.  I say this because I've never been bothered by +1, ^, "This", etc., especially when they're in favor of my posts :P  Sure, we can force people to make detailed posts.  But sometimes a +1 is all someone wants to get off their chest.  Perhaps this is an effect of social media, however...it's easy to "Like" a post on Facebook or "thumb-up" a comment on YouTube, right?

To meet in the middle, I'd propose a system in which users can vote up and vote down posts, if for nothing more than to eliminate the need for the +1 posts.  There could also be a feature which auto-hides posts with a high amount of downvotes.

Some forums got a "Thank you" feature, where if you like someone's post, you can just click on the link or button and your name gets added to the list of people thanking for that post. I would like that more than a voting system, feels more personal, and doesn't merge disagreements with agreements.

People would still post "+1" stuff all the time because they'd want their opinions to be more visible.

This right here?

That's irony.

But in this case, it would be fair to punish those people, as there is already a system in place to +1 people without creating a new reply.

Has anyone figured out which sockpuppetry Grue belongs to?

I met a Grue, "Said how do you do?"
Said, "How do you do, too?"
To which I replied, "Fine by you."
Not so true, Grue.
If by inferring Grue not true,
Could Grue still be true to you?
Perhaps it is not Grue by GNU,
Or Grue by U?
But grew by Grue that rings true.
Time flew, "Must be going, Grue."
Uncomfortable pause grew...
Grue knew that apart from that,
Grue had to know that,
Time flew, glad that,
Moving past,
Uncomfortable moment, thought,
"Well, that's enough of that!"

FF

^ This, is a perfect example of a post with no real clear contribution to the thread, yet is not "^^" or "+/-1".

Good for laughs though lol.

I study at the school of Dr. Suess' Vocabulary Literations

There's actually a solution for that (Facebook already does it). When someone "like's" something, it would show their name right under that person's signature on that post. "The following people appreciated this post".

That's what I had in mind, but people would still not be happy with that. (And why should they be? No one will ever read the list of +1s.)

I wouldn't want to invest time and energy into something that I didn't think people would use either, but why not find out if that's actually the case?

What about a thread in meta asking for people to vote?

vBulletin has a "thank you" feature for those who feel the need to "upvote" or "like" to contribute:

http://www.cbr250.net/forum/off-topic-discussion/7564-following-users-say-thank-you-useful-post.html

Theymos (and everyone else) please see this as well https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68329.msg1908247#msg1908247

I think positive reputation is good, but right now it appears that there is only negative reputation (ignore color). Until positive reputation methods are introduced, negative reputation methods should be better managed.

Voting is the worst way of making a decision like this. Very few people will vote for, "No, I don't want a new feature that costs me nothing to have."

This feature is actually listed on the new forum software specs, so I agree that it would be helpful, but I don't think that it'll be very helpful, and so it's a low priority.

+1  ;)

I agree that posts should be removed if they do not contain any meaningful addition to the conversation.

I do have a question: If somebody puts up a '+1' post, that would add the thread to their 'Show new replies to your posts' list. But if that post is later deleted by a mod, would that also remove the thread form their relies list? I have recently switched to using the watchlist so I guess that would not affect me, but some people might miss out on conversation they were interested in.

I believe the watchlist bases itself off of the most recent post ID in the thread.

I.E. if the watchlist knows you have looked at #202, then #203 comes up and is deleted, it will not pop up on the watchlist because the most recent reply that is active is #202.

I was thinking more along the lines of I post a "+1" to subscribe to the thread, the mod deletes my post, the next time somebody posts in the thread it will show up in 'watchlist' (if you have selected the option of automatically adding posts to the watchlist) but not in 'show new replies'.

+1

Yes that will do that effect because 'adding posts to the watchlist' effectively add the thread to the watchlist (forever) where as 'show new posts' looks for the threads you posted in

This is a good idea, I think with advertisers paying users by their post count it was inevitable.