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Title: this forum sucks
Post by: cash4net on April 21, 2013, 03:16:21 AM
let's try to build up a good forum at http://BitForum.org

this forum here sucks .. i cant even respond to threads anywhere but here. What is the point?  I read a thread I'm interested in, and I can't respond.  And I have 4hrs+ and more than 5 posts. 

LAME!


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: btcgrrl69 on April 21, 2013, 03:18:29 AM
i agree im having same issue.  basically impossible to do anything here. i made an account on the bitforum you suggest but its dead over there now, maybe some ppl will join up


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: MarKusRomanus on April 21, 2013, 03:22:00 AM
could you imagine how much it would suck if everyone who signed up could right away post everywhere?  I think its a good idea... read up, spend time here first.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: val1 on April 21, 2013, 03:24:16 AM
this forum is great, if you're saying that you are not reading the posts.
who wants to hear from you anyways ?



Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: btcgrrl69 on April 21, 2013, 03:27:23 AM
this forum is great, if you're saying that you are not reading the posts.
who wants to hear from you anyways ?



how is it great? you cant even post.  forums these days are all shitty .. run by nazis


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: drakahn on April 21, 2013, 03:28:55 AM
this forum is great, if you're saying that you are not reading the posts.
who wants to hear from you anyways ?



how is it great? you cant even post.  forums these days are all shitty .. run by nazis
not sure if this grrrl knows what a nazi is


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: MarKusRomanus on April 21, 2013, 03:29:32 AM
i agree im having same issue.  basically impossible to do anything here. i made an account on the bitforum you suggest but its dead over there now, maybe some ppl will join up

Except learn everything you need to know about cryptocurrencies and be up to date on everything that is going on.  This isTHE bitcoin site.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Mike Christ on April 21, 2013, 03:29:57 AM
this forum is great, if you're saying that you are not reading the posts.
who wants to hear from you anyways ?



how is it great? you cant even post.  forums these days are all shitty .. run by nazis

http://images.wikia.com/southpark/images/a/a5/134a.jpg


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Signus on April 21, 2013, 03:31:03 AM
Forums do this to avoid bot accounts and initiate you into the forum community.

That way someone can't make an account in 5 minutes and start spamming arguments to what you say. If the Newbie restriction bugs you that much, you have a lot of forums you'll hate.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: MarKusRomanus on April 21, 2013, 03:32:48 AM
this forum is great, if you're saying that you are not reading the posts.
who wants to hear from you anyways ?



how is it great? you cant even post.  forums these days are all shitty .. run by nazis

Be done with this site then and move on to your other options (forums that will have endless links to this one).  You must have a lot of important things to say that you are so angry you are not heard untill after 4 hours of forum time and 5 posts!


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 21, 2013, 03:37:21 AM
The newbie restrictions are indeed archaic, there are better ways to handle spammers and newbies, like reputation systems, Ripple style trust (if your friend spams, you get banned too!), pay-per-account, etc. Theymos already claims he's working on a replacement that will eliminate the need for the newbie jail. In the meantime, try http://reddit.com/r/Bitcoin as that's where actual conversation happens.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: MarKusRomanus on April 21, 2013, 03:38:35 AM
let's try to build up a good forum at http://BitForum.org

this forum here sucks .. i cant even respond to threads anywhere but here. What is the point?  I read a thread I'm interested in, and I can't respond.  And I have 4hrs+ and more than 5 posts. 

LAME!
 
I'm sure you'll be able too real soon.  try closing the browser and reopening.  I don't know.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Mike Christ on April 21, 2013, 03:40:16 AM
(if your friend spams, you get banned too!)

That's actually how the Newgrounds Art portal works; you have to get recruited by another artist, and if you fuck up, the entire chain gets pulled from being able to post onto the portal.  I like it a lot, TBH ;D  It filters out all the newbie artwork and leaves the good stuff.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Signus on April 21, 2013, 03:41:42 AM
let's try to build up a good forum at http://BitForum.org

this forum here sucks .. i cant even respond to threads anywhere but here. What is the point?  I read a thread I'm interested in, and I can't respond.  And I have 4hrs+ and more than 5 posts. 

LAME!

The cron job on the server will probably run soon. I suggest logging out and back in again.

The newbie restrictions are indeed archaic, there are better ways to handle spammers and newbies, like reputation systems, Ripple style trust (if your friend spams, you get banned too!), pay-per-account, etc. Theymos already claims he's working on a replacement that will eliminate the need for the newbie jail. In the meantime, try http://reddit.com/r/Bitcoin as that's where actual conversation happens.

Maybe so, but there's no point in complaining if you want to participate in the forums.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: birkoff2 on April 21, 2013, 03:43:03 AM
you only have a handful of posts there and you want everyone to switch over?


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 21, 2013, 03:47:23 AM
you only have a handful of posts there and you want everyone to switch over?


Seems like spam, right?

Edit: Seems like that forum has *only* spam http://bitforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: rwheeler on April 21, 2013, 03:47:30 AM
annoying that takes time to build reputation up, but ok as will stop spammers and scammers


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: drakahn on April 21, 2013, 03:49:56 AM
you only have a handful of posts there and you want everyone to switch over?


Seems like spam, right?

Edit: Seems like that forum has *only* spam http://bitforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3
they could use some newbie restrictions


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: MarKusRomanus on April 21, 2013, 03:51:13 AM
It helps keep the paid trolls out.. you know those exist, right?


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 21, 2013, 03:52:01 AM
It helps keep the paid trolls out.. you know those exist, right?

It's the only explanation for how people could spend so much time trolling.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: applelover on April 21, 2013, 03:52:15 AM
yeah but my friend said i cant post on other forums until i get 5 on this forum?


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: applelover on April 21, 2013, 03:54:04 AM
so it is pretty annoying imho


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: msbillionaire on April 21, 2013, 03:55:16 AM
well, this is because of newbies can't post on other board?


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: applelover on April 21, 2013, 04:05:39 AM
a couple weeks ago i was logged on to this forum for like 10 hours straight reading stuff on other forums.  so how do i accumulate the 4 hour forum time so i can post on the other sections of forum?


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: psybits on April 21, 2013, 04:12:19 AM
let's try to build up a good forum at http://BitForum.org

this forum here sucks .. i cant even respond to threads anywhere but here. What is the point?  I read a thread I'm interested in, and I can't respond.  And I have 4hrs+ and more than 5 posts. 

LAME!

The entire BTC community lives here. I did my newbie time as fast as possible (it didn't even bother me) - I really don't think it's a big deal and now I've been here for a while I can see why this is done.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: lance4681 on April 21, 2013, 04:13:05 AM
a couple weeks ago i was logged on to this forum for like 10 hours straight reading stuff on other forums.  so how do i accumulate the 4 hour forum time so i can post on the other sections of forum?


Just make sure you stay logged in. My understanding is that you need 4 hours and 5 posts. The total time you've been logged in should be displayed in the upper left corner of the screen.

Hope that helps.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: psybits on April 21, 2013, 04:15:17 AM
a couple weeks ago i was logged on to this forum for like 10 hours straight reading stuff on other forums.  so how do i accumulate the 4 hour forum time so i can post on the other sections of forum?

You should be reading things on this forum if you are serious about BTC


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Mike Christ on April 21, 2013, 04:18:08 AM
let's try to build up a good forum at http://BitForum.org

this forum here sucks .. i cant even respond to threads anywhere but here. What is the point?  I read a thread I'm interested in, and I can't respond.  And I have 4hrs+ and more than 5 posts. 

LAME!

Just took a look at the forum.

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The only threads on the forum.

And this is why we have these restrictions in place ;D


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: tysat on April 21, 2013, 04:56:45 AM
The newbie restrictions are indeed archaic, there are better ways to handle spammers and newbies, like reputation systems, Ripple style trust (if your friend spams, you get banned too!), pay-per-account, etc. Theymos already claims he's working on a replacement that will eliminate the need for the newbie jail. In the meantime, try http://reddit.com/r/Bitcoin as that's where actual conversation happens.

I would argue that a lot of /r/bitcoin is a giant circlejerk...  There is good stuff to though.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: XXthetimeisnowXX on April 21, 2013, 06:06:29 AM
i agree im having same issue.  basically impossible to do anything here. i made an account on the bitforum you suggest but its dead over there now, maybe some ppl will join up

hummmm... ill you do is post 4 times and you are open to everything. it took me all of tenmunutes to get to jr member and you can go everywhere.

this guy wants to come on here and say we suck when all he wants is to get people to go to his empty nobody cares forum.

just post in your name you say hi, replie to thre or four newbie threads and your in.

this IS the place for anything and everything about bitcoins. if you are to impatient with this ...bitcoins are not right for you ......  go put you money under your bed or build up debt and watch the banks take it all away..ether way i dont care.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: pekv2 on April 21, 2013, 03:43:05 PM
I love this forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177154.msg1844461#msg1844461)


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Lethn on April 21, 2013, 03:54:29 PM
This is why I've made my forum invite only so people can at least register instantly without problems or captchas, the restrictions are annoying but anyone who's tried setting up even a basic phpbb3 forum will know exactly how horrible it is having to find a way to deal with bot spammers. For me at least with invite codes I don't have to deal with this sort of thing and it will be humans communicating with other humans rather than bot spammers trying to force their way in every five seconds.

I'd love to make the forum public, but even I don't have the time anymore to go through 30+ spam posts per day and get even more if I lower my guard and that's if I'm lucky, these people are inconsiderate and obnoxious cuntbags, deal with them first for us before complaining about forum restrictions.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: maxmint on April 21, 2013, 03:57:17 PM
let's try to build up a good forum at http://BitForum.org

this forum here sucks .. i cant even respond to threads anywhere but here. What is the point?  I read a thread I'm interested in, and I can't respond.  And I have 4hrs+ and more than 5 posts. 

LAME!

So you came here to promote a forum with 12 post total? And you're saying this forum with 1818510 posts sucks?
There's a reason why newbies don't have full access right from the start and it's not really hard to get promoted.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Anonymousg64 on April 21, 2013, 04:00:24 PM
There should be a newbie timeout phase, so that lurkers can reply to topics after over 720 hours of active lurking.
I hate having to go to the newbie section and spam.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: angelafairie on April 21, 2013, 04:09:19 PM
Good luck on your forum. It is certainly not a good way to promote them but some people may actually like it...


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 21, 2013, 04:09:50 PM
Good luck on your forum. It is certainly not a good way to promote them but some people may actually like it...

Primarily spammers.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Petracarter on April 21, 2013, 04:24:03 PM
if you take the time needed to read the posts, then you will not be asking noob questions as much as you would have if you could post your questions right away


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: angelafairie on April 21, 2013, 04:34:16 PM
Good luck on your forum. It is certainly not a good way to promote them but some people may actually like it...

Primarily spammers.

Right on.
Don't want to sound too harsh but I guess we got to let them learn the fact sometimes.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: stslimited on April 21, 2013, 04:35:12 PM
its time out, indiscriminate


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Abo Adamson on April 21, 2013, 04:38:42 PM
let's try to build up a good forum at http://BitForum.org

this forum here sucks .. i cant even respond to threads anywhere but here. What is the point?  I read a thread I'm interested in, and I can't respond.  And I have 4hrs+ and more than 5 posts. 

LAME!
not agree


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: WuLabsWuTecH on April 21, 2013, 04:40:38 PM
This forum does indeed suck, but hopefully i'll figure out soon how they calculate time and won't have to keep making these pointless posts!


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Aaron Abramson on April 21, 2013, 04:44:46 PM
agree 100%  ;D


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Avadij Addington on April 21, 2013, 04:54:37 PM
bad idea


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: syebotext on April 21, 2013, 05:06:32 PM
I must disagree with you.  This forum is quite excellent.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: btc4luv on April 21, 2013, 05:09:21 PM
i love this forum


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: blue42 on April 21, 2013, 08:08:52 PM
Hmm. While I haven't been very active, I have been here for several months and have 7 posts, yet I'm still not able to post in the main forum. Has anyone figured out the actual posting requirements?


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: WuLabsWuTecH on April 21, 2013, 08:29:00 PM
a couple weeks ago i was logged on to this forum for like 10 hours straight reading stuff on other forums.  so how do i accumulate the 4 hour forum time so i can post on the other sections of forum?

This is the problem.   They system apparently only counts time spent posting (at least it seems that way for me) so i've been here for 2 weeks and the only thing I can do is make useless posts or agree with other people...  It generates a lot of spam in this forum, but since everyone else is spamming, I guess it keeps all the spam in one place?


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: yvv on April 21, 2013, 08:31:20 PM

how is it great? you cant even post.  forums these days are all shitty .. run by nazis

Shut up, and go back to kitchen.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: WuLabsWuTecH on April 21, 2013, 08:41:31 PM
Hmm. While I haven't been very active, I have been here for several months and have 7 posts, yet I'm still not able to post in the main forum. Has anyone figured out the actual posting requirements?

I think that only time spent posting counts towards your time.  SO just go to some of the threads that are hundreds of pages long and post whatever you want in them.  That is my strategy for now and by doing such, it keeps the spam off the main newbie forum so as not to clutter things up.  Some people on those threads are having conversations with themselves!!! lol


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: MarKusRomanus on April 21, 2013, 09:12:18 PM
I wonder what people would have thought of me if i whined like you guys are before I could post in the forum.  If you were serious about being a contributing member of this forum, you might want to make a better first impression.  (Note to self: look at new members first 20 posts to gauge their integrity)


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: BeeCoin on April 21, 2013, 09:26:00 PM
I think btctalk.org is great!
Just be patient...


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: cjulops on April 21, 2013, 09:26:56 PM
kinda... ;D


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: therevzell on April 21, 2013, 09:28:06 PM
I wish they would change the period to at least just 2.5 or something, this long ass wait is killer.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: tahar on April 21, 2013, 09:29:34 PM
The funny thing is reccomending a forum that contains little but spam.  :D

I think the 5 post / 4 hr rule makes sense. I've been reading here for the past week and didn't even get a chance to think about registering until yesterday! That shows all you need to know - when you're new, read read and learn. And this is a great place to start to do so.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: SoulMulticast on April 21, 2013, 09:38:42 PM
agree. but its kinda lame to make 5 spam posts to ask a real question on the other thread..


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Dharmadog on April 21, 2013, 09:40:40 PM
let's try to build up a good forum at http://BitForum.org

this forum here sucks .. i cant even respond to threads anywhere but here. What is the point?  I read a thread I'm interested in, and I can't respond.  And I have 4hrs+ and more than 5 posts. 

LAME!

Is this the way to "sell" a new forum?  HA!  There are reasons for things, you know?  But, whatever.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Dharmadog on April 21, 2013, 09:44:58 PM
Ya!  That BitForum.org looks brilliant.  Deep and insightful.  Compelling reading.  If the folks behind it would put their energy toward a cure for cancer all humanity could rejoice.  [He said with heavy sarcasm]


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: johnniewalker on April 21, 2013, 09:51:16 PM
let's try to build up a good forum at http://BitForum.org

this forum here sucks .. i cant even respond to threads anywhere but here. What is the point?  I read a thread I'm interested in, and I can't respond.  And I have 4hrs+ and more than 5 posts. 

LAME!
So I should learn Russian so I can read the few posts that exist on there? Good luck building another BTC forum that can compete with this one. I really do wish you luck, it'd be nice to have multiple forums.

Also, if you are here for legit reasons (questionable), the n00b restrictions are quite minimal. Also, ever heard of whitelist?


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Signus on April 22, 2013, 12:05:44 PM
I wonder what people would have thought of me if i whined like you guys are before I could post in the forum.  If you were serious about being a contributing member of this forum, you might want to make a better first impression.  (Note to self: look at new members first 20 posts to gauge their integrity)

Agreed. There's really no need to whine. If you don't like the restrictions and you can't be respectful then these forums will not appreciate your input.

And obviously for those of you who are complaining that it is taking you days or weeks to get out of the restrictions, then obviously you don't have very much to say and the only reason you wished to join was to comment on a single post or whatnot, which is invaluable to the community.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Zeal0t on April 22, 2013, 12:26:19 PM
I like the newb restrictions, keeps the primary areas of the forum clear of all the vermin that can't even conjure enough patience to read four hours worth of material on a subject they supposedly have interest in. Granted at first I was very confused but the second I realized what was happening I just kind of went with it, I now have about two more hours to go haha.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Signus on April 22, 2013, 12:30:25 PM
I like the newb restrictions, keeps the primary areas of the forum clear of all the vermin that can't even conjure enough patience to read four hours worth of material on a subject they supposedly have interest in. Granted at first I was very confused but the second I realized what was happening I just kind of went with it, I now have about two more hours to go haha.

Yes, thank you. It also just makes sure you spend the time to read through posts and gain an understanding of where the community lies, and what kind of questions are being asked, etc., so that people don't throw up an account and be like "LIEK WAT IS ASIC AND DAFUQ IS DIFFICULTY?!" in posts where people are trying to get legitimate points across. Also makes the moderator's jobs easier.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Zeal0t on April 22, 2013, 12:31:46 PM
LIEK WAT IS ASIC AND DAFUQ IS DIFFICULTY?

I laughed so hard.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: tahar on April 22, 2013, 12:32:49 PM
let's try to build up a good forum at http://BitForum.org

this forum here sucks .. i cant even respond to threads anywhere but here. What is the point?  I read a thread I'm interested in, and I can't respond.  And I have 4hrs+ and more than 5 posts. 

LAME!
So I should learn Russian so I can read the few posts that exist on there? Good luck building another BTC forum that can compete with this one. I really do wish you luck, it'd be nice to have multiple forums.

Also, if you are here for legit reasons (questionable), the n00b restrictions are quite minimal. Also, ever heard of whitelist?

Not just Russian... got Spam also :P


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Drizzle on April 22, 2013, 12:36:42 PM
could you imagine how much it would suck if everyone who signed up could right away post everywhere?

Well, limit to 1 hour then.

Really, all I wanted was to make a comment on Slush's pool thread. I can't yet. I've been stuck here for a while. Sure, it brings more traffic to the site and ups the post count, but for anyone who comes across this forum and wants to comment it sucks badly. Since this forum is considered the official support forum for several sites (such as Slush's pool) this kind of limitation is really problematic.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Zeal0t on April 22, 2013, 12:38:53 PM
could you imagine how much it would suck if everyone who signed up could right away post everywhere?

Well, limit to 1 hour then.

Really, all I wanted was to make a comment on Slush's pool thread. I can't yet. I've been stuck here for a while. Sure, it brings more traffic to the site and ups the post count, but for anyone who comes across this forum and wants to comment it sucks badly. Since this forum is considered the official support forum for several sites (such as Slush's pool) this kind of limitation is really problematic.

That fault doesn't lie with the forum itself, but with entities sending people in need of support to a restricted area.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: spanishfry on April 22, 2013, 01:22:23 PM
agreed, the rules are good.  still going to hop on this for #4


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Signus on April 22, 2013, 01:58:02 PM
LIEK WAT IS ASIC AND DAFUQ IS DIFFICULTY?

I laughed so hard.

Good. I'll be here periodically. Haha.

could you imagine how much it would suck if everyone who signed up could right away post everywhere?

Well, limit to 1 hour then.

Really, all I wanted was to make a comment on Slush's pool thread. I can't yet. I've been stuck here for a while. Sure, it brings more traffic to the site and ups the post count, but for anyone who comes across this forum and wants to comment it sucks badly. Since this forum is considered the official support forum for several sites (such as Slush's pool) this kind of limitation is really problematic.

1 hour isn't enough time for you to read through much of the forums, familiarize yourself with the community or the material. I think 4 hours is enough time to educate yourself.

Why not wait and contribute to that thread instead of just waiting to post so that you can ask one question, get your answer and then leave?


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: grzem on April 22, 2013, 01:58:58 PM
I'm waiting, and don't like 4 hours, have been reading a lot before, but not logged in.


Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: mattyrain on April 22, 2013, 02:12:58 PM
This forum is a good idea. The requirements seem reasonable too.



Title: Re: this forum sucks
Post by: Signus on April 22, 2013, 02:14:02 PM
I'm waiting, and don't like 4 hours, have been reading a lot before, but not logged in.

Well you also need 5 posts. Just make sure you're logged in and it will take no time at all.