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Title: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: cryptohunter on March 10, 2017, 10:57:57 AM
Spoetnik once a viable scam hunter (hating all scams and highlighting their scammy nature for all to see) branded dash a scam above other scams.

AN ULTRA SCAMMY COIN - were his exact words.

spoetnik was so disgusted he called dash an ultra scammy coin.

wow that is pretty nasty and the only negative i have focused on before was that it's a clone of Quark with another algo tacked on to it.
..sad it just looks wore and worse all the time for this ultra scammy coin !

He went on to dispel any and all excuses they tried to make up for the instamine and the slashing of the minting as say these are FACTS not fud as they were claiming.


BUT NOW????

after making a thread asking if anyone would pay for his fud/protection services no less.... guess what??

He can be found on every anti dash thread protecting and diverting attention to other issues and cheerleading dash on??

He now refuses to answer my question

Is dash a scam spoetnik ...Yes or NO??  I have asked him this question 5x now in public and each time he will not answer??


Why would spoetnik have such a change of heart?? Some have speculated he has been given some dash to change his mind on the matter.

Only today I see him lecturing someone else telling them off for protecting a known scam coin? can he be taken seriously any longer if he is actually just shilling for dash?













Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: iamnotback on March 10, 2017, 10:59:14 AM
spoetnik

1 - Fervent maniacal  dash/darkcoin shill Super defender.. even after it was proven to be scam. AND HE CALLED IT HIMSELF A ULTRA SCAM

2 - Idiot DASH cult member.

3 - proabably got bought out by dash and is on the pay roll.


YES you lost the ability to lecture anyone on anything like this now you have been caught out doing the same thing.

This will continue until you confess dash is a scam.

Friendly suggestion is you've made your point. You are not going to be able to corner Spoetnik on this one. I don't think he is complicit with Dash's pump. I think he just hates Monero and Ethereum so much that he can cheer Dash, because it is all about his ego. He picked a fight with Monero and he doesn't want to lose that fight. Spoetnik is here for his ego. He got upset with me lately because I threatening his ego on the forum, when I abandoned any plans of an ICO and I was being logical about Dash and Monero.

He is not coming off ignore, but I see no need to berate him. You made your point loud and clear in numerous threads. Just a suggestion. You don't want people to look down on you for over playing your point.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: BitcoinNational on March 10, 2017, 04:43:00 PM
"I don't think he is complicit with Dash's pump."

implicit ... maybe ... or Amanda, since she's damn near already in Canada, found a nuk to fluffer for her.

BTC ... spoet loves.
LTC ... spoet loves, possibly.
DASH ... hits #3 MC ... suckin the ash out of that trash can!  
ETH ... cometh the huffle-puffle!


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: dranster on March 10, 2017, 04:46:58 PM
Does anyone really care what the fuck that loser Spoetnik thinks or not

Comeon , can everyone do a favour and ignore him, that would be great


And also, stop publicizing him by creating a new thread in the Altcoin Discussion..ok? alright?


Have a nice day!


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: Spoetnik on March 10, 2017, 04:47:02 PM
Your an idiot.

This topic will be deleted like the others from you.
It's self modded  ::)

I have already answered your questions and yet you keep badgering me because i keep pointing out that Monero idiots are jealous of Dash.. and they ARE !

$50 a coin asshole.

If your gay little shitcoin Monero hinges on the popularity of BitcoinTalk.org Altcoin forum section then you failed son.

You have made a LOT of topics on me here whining up a storm..
News Flash: no one gives a fuck.

GROW UP suckhole brat chucklefuck profiteer.

Oh and by the way that is the 3rd time lately you posted that cherry picked taken out of context comment from me from 3 fucking years ago.
No.. i didn't like Dark Coin dumb fuck LOL


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: Febo on March 10, 2017, 05:00:01 PM
All Spoetnik can say is you are Monero Shill, but if anyone check  cryptohunter posts will see that last 100 posts was none about Monero. lol Nada. He posts about 1000 other coins but not about Monero.

I post in many Monero threads and in last 3 years I saw  cryptohunter posting there rarely if ever at all. He does post a lot about DASH in DASH threads.


About OP it dont really matter. There are some people on this forum that care about Crypto and others that gives a shit. Spoetnik is one of them. So let him enjoy his scam coins.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: btc_zero_sum on March 10, 2017, 05:04:31 PM
adults debating the same BULLSHIT over and over, OVER AND OVER THE SAME TRASH

you guys should be ashamed on how retarded you all look



why the fuck do i keep coming back on this shithole forum?


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: BitcoinNational on March 10, 2017, 05:06:02 PM
"$50 a coin asshole."

to even put your lips around that ...


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: nelson4lov on March 10, 2017, 05:14:34 PM
~Snipped~

Why would spoetnik have such a change of heart?? Some have speculated he has been given some dash to change his mind on the matter.

Only today I see him lecturing someone else telling them off for protecting a known scam coin? can he be taken seriously any longer if he is actually just shilling for dash?



You have failed to understand certain facts. One of which is that Cryptocurrency is more than a single individual different thoughts & opinions. Regardless of the fact that Spoetnik's opinion about Dash Coin has changed doesn't mean anything.


Despite the fact that Bitcoin is a successful Cryptocurrency doesn't mean it doesn't have critics or people that condemns it. Same goes for DashCoin & Spoetnik.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: Spoetnik on March 10, 2017, 05:23:34 PM
"$50 a coin asshole."

to even put your lips around that ...

See my rating ?
You know how often i have had to explain why the Monero assholes ruined it ?

YES ..i do enjoy seeing the usual suspects suffer.. they deserve it.
They have been here puttering around slinging bullshit for YEARS.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: Rockie1234 on March 10, 2017, 05:25:49 PM
I think the Monero users are getting out of hand...  ;)
Just because someone hates Monero and their developers does not mean that you can accuse random people on the Internet of supporting Dash. Just a reminder, there are a lot of shill accounts for Dash AND Monero. It's quite funny how Monero bag holders get angry when spoetnik says Monero is just as bad. Seems like you guys can't take criticism.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: cryptohunter on March 10, 2017, 05:42:19 PM
Your an idiot.

This topic will be deleted like the others from you.
It's self modded  ::)

I have already answered your questions and yet you keep badgering me because i keep pointing out that Monero idiots are jealous of Dash.. and they ARE !

$50 a coin asshole.

If your gay little shitcoin Monero hinges on the popularity of BitcoinTalk.org Altcoin forum section then you failed son.

You have made a LOT of topics on me here whining up a storm..
News Flash: no one gives a fuck.

GROW UP suckhole brat chucklefuck profiteer.

Oh and by the way that is the 3rd time lately you posted that cherry picked taken out of context comment from me from 3 fucking years ago.
No.. i didn't like Dark Coin dumb fuck LOL

Stop swearing and just answer the question now if you say you have answered it already. Your childish brand of foul language is indicative of someone who is loath to answer the real questions.




IS DASH A SCAM - YES OR NO??

everytime I hear xmr  xmr xmr  you have never shown one shred of proof or even anything that suggest I care about monero. I already told you I have less than 0.5 BTC of monero even at these prices. I am not sure it is even that much. I have never been part of xmr community and I am an active part of BBR which is the obvious xmr competition. I hold 100 alts all around 0.1-25 BTC worth. I have no care about xmr at all. This again is merely a diversion to answering my question.

You on the other hand. Your post history shows a definite cheerleading for dash. Right after offering your fud/protection services on this board. You were likely bought off by dash. It is terrible how you sold out to them of all coins.

So answer the question now.

I see you just today lecturing pepple on supporting known scams when you yourself are doing exactly that.

You are on every anti dash thread trying to divert to other schemes.

At first I was happy to write this 180 degree pov as xmr hatred for what they did or apparently did to him I never looked into it. But I now think this is a guise for just being a dash shill. I mean anyone who points out the facts about dash spoetnik says is an xmr shill??? really every person even though many of these probably have no interest in xmr. It is just dash shilling and protecting and using xmr as a reason for it.

He should make xmr threads rather than appearing on every anti dash thread bringing up xmr and saying it is worse? I have no issue with him going on about xmr when ever he likes but using it to justify dash scam is bullshit.

Is dash a scam spoetnik yes or no?  I mean you were sure it was an ULTRA SCAMMY coin before now you can't even answer it is a scam?

Is that part of your dash payroll contract you are never allowed to say it is a scam again?




Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: jacaf01 on March 10, 2017, 06:53:52 PM
I think everyone has a price, so is SPOETNIK. Another thing is change, change is a constant thing in life maybe he changed is opinion on Dash because of Amanda the Dash Detailed show host (just kidding).



Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: rokkyroad on March 10, 2017, 08:04:20 PM
Spoet is lovin Dash just to piss off Monero shills.  ;D


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: cryptohunter on March 10, 2017, 08:34:54 PM
Spoet is lovin Dash just to piss off Monero shills.  ;D

You can't protect and be a cheerleader for a scam to piss other shills off. Does not work like that. You are either against scams or not.

He does not need to go on every anti dash thread and challenge anyone xmr shills or not. He is simply using this as an excuse.

He tries to criticise anyone on anti dash threads for any number of reasons, and will not confirm he believes dash is a scam.

Why not?


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: generalizethis on March 10, 2017, 09:05:48 PM
Spoet is lovin Dash just to piss off Monero shills.  ;D

You can't protect and be a cheerleader for a scam to piss other shills off. Does not work like that. You are either against scams or not.

He does not need to go on every anti dash thread and challenge anyone xmr shills or not. He is simply using this as an excuse.

He tries to criticise anyone on anti dash threads for any number of reasons, and will not confirm he believes dash is a scam.

Why not?

Hmmmm??? It's almost as if someone is paying him for his services...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236914.0



Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: rokkyroad on March 10, 2017, 10:22:14 PM
Spoet is lovin Dash just to piss off Monero shills.  ;D

You can't protect and be a cheerleader for a scam to piss other shills off. Does not work like that. You are either against scams or not.

He does not need to go on every anti dash thread and challenge anyone xmr shills or not. He is simply using this as an excuse.

He tries to criticise anyone on anti dash threads for any number of reasons, and will not confirm he believes dash is a scam.

Why not?

Hmmmm??? It's almost as if someone is paying him for his services...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236914.0



Everybody has a price ....  ;)


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: iamnotback on March 10, 2017, 10:57:13 PM
Spoet is lovin Dash just to piss off Monero shills.  ;D

You can't protect and be a cheerleader for a scam to piss other shills off. Does not work like that. You are either against scams or not.

He does not need to go on every anti dash thread and challenge anyone xmr shills or not. He is simply using this as an excuse.

He tries to criticise anyone on anti dash threads for any number of reasons, and will not confirm he believes dash is a scam.

Why not?

Hmmmm??? It's almost as if someone is paying him for his services...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236914.0



Everybody has a price ....  ;)

Ah maybe I am too gullible. This crypto ecosystem is a hornet's nest.

He is egging you all on so as to boost his name recall on this forum, which boosts at least his ego, if not also apparently his wallet.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: Spoetnik on March 11, 2017, 06:36:10 AM
Spoet is lovin Dash just to piss off Monero shills.  ;D

In an indirect way maybe yes.

The Monero guys are sly clever sleazy profiteers who will in fact bullshit when it suits them.
THAT is what bothers me.
They parade around as having a perfect track record which is bullshit.
I know i have been here since Monero started.

I never paid much attention to Dash and i had gave Dark Coin FUD way back for the reasons i mentioned earlier.
I never did see the name change.. i don't think i even clued in for a long while too.
Dash guys have flown under my radar because they seem to be a lot less likely to spin bullshit here.

Is Dash a scam ? Tough to say.. you have to gauge the data and come to a conclusion.
Don't forget i have "defended" iGotSpots along the same lines here too.. and boy did i get flamed for that.
What i am after here is real honest info put on the table (forum)

I have called Monero a scam before but i can't really call them a scam anymore than Dash.
Confirmed scam and "scammy" are not the same.
You need to know the intent..
Because Evan changed the reward early on is bad but was it a way to get more coins ?
I really have no idea at all.
I would have to take that and then look at other aspects.. such as a track record of honesty.
Which is where Monero burns my ass again.. they *DO* have a long massive track record of lying and playing games and bullshiting etc.
Vs Dash ?
I add up the columns and i see one worse than the other.
The data is on the web for you all to get and check yourselves.

Do both sides use puppet accounts etc ? of course.. that is not proof of scam though.
I tend to see 1 side CAUSING more problems than the other.
Seems to me the Monero gang is worse and then tries to come off as perfect little angels
..denying everything all along for years.

I don't care much about either.. i just see one as being worse that's all.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: cryptohunter on March 11, 2017, 07:49:58 AM
Spoet is lovin Dash just to piss off Monero shills.  ;D

In an indirect way maybe yes.

The Monero guys are sly clever sleazy profiteers who will in fact bullshit when it suits them.
THAT is what bothers me.
They parade around as having a perfect track record which is bullshit.
I know i have been here since Monero started.

I never paid much attention to Dash and i had gave Dark Coin FUD way back for the reasons i mentioned earlier.
I never did see the name change.. i don't think i even clued in for a long while too.
Dash guys have flown under my radar because they seem to be a lot less likely to spin bullshit here.

Is Dash a scam ? Tough to say.. you have to gauge the data and come to a conclusion.
Don't forget i have "defended" iGotSpots along the same lines here too.. and boy did i get flamed for that.
What i am after here is real honest info put on the table (forum)

I have called Monero a scam before but i can't really call them a scam anymore than Dash.
Confirmed scam and "scammy" are not the same.
You need to know the intent..
Because Evan changed the reward early on is bad but was it a way to get more coins ?
I really have no idea at all.
I would have to take that and then look at other aspects.. such as a track record of honesty.
Which is where Monero burns my ass again.. they *DO* have a long massive track record of lying and playing games and bullshiting etc.
Vs Dash ?
I add up the columns and i see one worse than the other.
The data is on the web for you all to get and check yourselves.

Do both sides use puppet accounts etc ? of course.. that is not proof of scam though.
I tend to see 1 side CAUSING more problems than the other.
Seems to me the Monero gang is worse and then tries to come off as perfect little angels
..denying everything all along for years.

I don't care much about either.. i just see one as being worse that's all.


Here have another read through especially this first part. Then consider the slashing of the minting to magnify this loot. Then consider if it was all an accident why not relaunch after the first few hours of taking all the coins. You have one of the other devs saying he had hundreds of thousands of coins after just a few hours after launch. If you took so many hours to decide ULTRA SCAMMY and SCAM are so different and that you can still cheerlead on an ultra scammy coin on the guise of doing it to piss off a group of people you say promote an equally bad scammy coin then that is strange. You can not cheer on an ultra scammy coin and expect to lecture on any other projects you consider scammy or ultra scammy.


If you are not longer willing to produce fud on dash on the basis you believe it was all just a series of  accidents then you are no longer able to produce fud on any other projects else it is double standards. Even then cheerleading an ultra scammy coin is very questionable

I am not against you personally. However if you joined dash knowing what you know then that is reprehensible. Hating xmr is no excuse. You must not support ultra scammy projects for any reason. Fighting xmr or arguing with them is a separate issue. Don't divert on dash threads to xmr at every opportunity. Make your own xmr threads. Even if you believe xmr is a scammy project it does not make dash a project you should be cheerleading and praising.

To me it looks like you have been paid off on dash and have done a 180. I have not seen you cheerlead or be positive regarding any other scammy projects so that is the only viable explanation. Although at first I rejected other peoples claims this was the case. It is only now that I notice you on every anti dash thread protecting and diverting. If you stop this then you will no longer look like a paid dash shill.

Your explanation to me seems dubious at best so far because you have been ready to accept a project is a scam for far far less evidence than that of the dash scam.

Stop it now

1. because it does no good now many suspect you're a dash employee (it's like hearing qwizzie with his lame excuses)
2. because if you stop now perhaps people will forget about it and put it down to a bad decision and no permanent damage done to your credibility.



Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4589219#msg4589219
Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4591407#msg4591407
Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4592827#msg4592827
Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593601#msg4593601
Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593987#msg4593987
No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4594096#msg4594096
Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4595573#msg4595573
From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now.


SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme = dash


This latest defence is so strange. Where are the victims ? what are you talking about it is there in black and white.

1. everyone who was told it was a fair launch LIKE ALL THE OTHER LAUNCHES AT THE TIME. - then prevented from mining fairly = scammed
2. everyone who was told there would be much more opportunity to mine ( then that got slashed by 75%) - prevented from mining the coins that were then taken away = scammed.

here are your victims.

3. everyone buying now thinking dash can go somewhere not knowing the scam it is will forever hold it back = being scammed.


Every dasher on here trying to scam others into supporting your scam = scammers.

I will be updating my scammers thread to add all of your names to it.

Denying a scam after it is proven time and time again to you in black and white = scam enabler and defender = scammer.


Threads examining the evidence of the captive instamine and reduction of the minting to magnify such instamining ...PROOF OF SCAM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999084.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: misterbigg on March 11, 2017, 02:24:08 PM
I bet Spoetnik is TradeFortress.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: iamnotback on March 11, 2017, 02:43:03 PM
@cryptohunter, since you are so sure about your double-standard argument, I wanted to point out how deceptive reality can be:

@AndreaF does have a point. All crypto is power-law distributed. Somebody has access to more bots than most of us. And since he doesn't exist  ;), he doesn't need to waste money on PR to overcome the negative PR of his non-existence.

Choose your poison, the Evan Duckfleecer or the Moanero Bot Singularity.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: generalizethis on March 11, 2017, 05:20:25 PM
@cryptohunter, since you are so sure about your double-standard argument, I wanted to point out how deceptive reality can be:

@AndreaF does have a point. All crypto is power-law distributed. Somebody has access to more bots than most of us. And since he doesn't exist  ;), he doesn't need to waste money on PR to overcome the negative PR of his non-existence.

Choose your poison, the Evan Duckfleecer or the Moanero Bot Singularity.

Yeah, but we all know Artificial Intelligence only gets smarter,  whereas dashtards, well--


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: Spoetnik on March 11, 2017, 06:24:33 PM
@cryptohunter
You want me to rail on against Dash but they are not denying it.
A negative point is shoved in there face and they admit it.
What am i suppose to harp on about ?

Then.. Monero.
No matter what happens they play dumb and act like they have done no wrong.

You cluing in yet ?

You keep bitching about what the Dash guys did but you are ignoring ALL of the idiotic shit Monero guys have pulled.

Like a laser beam you home in on that 1 thing about Dash then ignore 100 things bad about Monero.
THAT ..is fucked up buddy !

And where do i even begin to start ?
It's not like i haven't mentioned a ton of Monero bullshit soooo many times before.
All they do is bullshit and play dumb and try and smooth/smoothie things over.
Just how many proven examples of that do want ? because i can think of LOTS !

You guys can STOP RIGHT NOW pretending you are not backing Monero for profit ignoring their bullshit.

Take the MEW shit for example..
KING Risto issues a refund then says his supporter who ASKED is a FUD'er.
How dare the guy who donated ASK where the money went or if he consulted with anyone.
And who PAYS the dev's ?
And who worked for Risto ? And whom was the MEW treasurer and WHOM was the guy apologizing ?
Should i go on ?
That one incident alone is retarded beyond comprehension and all you pricks do is say ohhhh well.. we gave a refund.

ya but........ you fucked up ::)

And that shows a pattern of behavior.. dishonest behavior !

I criticized Monero saying it can't be bullet-proof like they have printed on their Hoodies.
They attack me relentless and eventually neg me etc.
Later that fluffypony guy has the gall to use my words as his defense when his MONERO GAMBLING SITE got hacked.. the nerve of that ponyguy WOWOWOW !
The Monero crew sits here 24/7 playing dumb with me WHEN I SAY IT.. then use my words to defend their hacked gambling site !
Like what in the flying fuck ?
THEN ?

Another.. refund.

Problem solved and NOTHING bad happened.. perfect track record once again Monero wins !

uhhhmmm no guys you fucked up AGAIN.

So.. i don't have to compile a long list of hacks and refunds and excuses and bullshit from Dash guys.
That would be ALL Monero  :D

And..

generalizethis can shut the hell up..
He has had me on ignore for 2 years (he says) then randomly replies back to me.
He has been caught lying his ass off for almost 3 years now when ever it suits him.
So why would i trust a deceitful bullshitter who pretends to have me on ignore ?
If he does ? Then what would he know about this topic ?


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: cryptohunter on March 12, 2017, 01:42:53 AM
@cryptohunter
You want me to rail on against Dash but they are not denying it.
A negative point is shoved in there face and they admit it.
What am i suppose to harp on about ?

Then.. Monero.
No matter what happens they play dumb and act like they have done no wrong.

You cluing in yet ?

You keep bitching about what the Dash guys did but you are ignoring ALL of the idiotic shit Monero guys have pulled.

Like a laser beam you home in on that 1 thing about Dash then ignore 100 things bad about Monero.
THAT ..is fucked up buddy !

And where do i even begin to start ?
It's not like i haven't mentioned a ton of Monero bullshit soooo many times before.
All they do is bullshit and play dumb and try and smooth/smoothie things over.
Just how many proven examples of that do want ? because i can think of LOTS !

You guys can STOP RIGHT NOW pretending you are not backing Monero for profit ignoring their bullshit.

Take the MEW shit for example..
KING Risto issues a refund then says his supporter who ASKED is a FUD'er.
How dare the guy who donated ASK where the money went or if he consulted with anyone.
And who PAYS the dev's ?
And who worked for Risto ? And whom was the MEW treasurer and WHOM was the guy apologizing ?
Should i go on ?
That one incident alone is retarded beyond comprehension and all you pricks do is say ohhhh well.. we gave a refund.

ya but........ you fucked up ::)

And that shows a pattern of behavior.. dishonest behavior !

I criticized Monero saying it can't be bullet-proof like they have printed on their Hoodies.
They attack me relentless and eventually neg me etc.
Later that fluffypony guy has the gall to use my words as his defense when his MONERO GAMBLING SITE got hacked.. the nerve of that ponyguy WOWOWOW !
The Monero crew sits here 24/7 playing dumb with me WHEN I SAY IT.. then use my words to defend their hacked gambling site !
Like what in the flying fuck ?
THEN ?

Another.. refund.

Problem solved and NOTHING bad happened.. perfect track record once again Monero wins !

uhhhmmm no guys you fucked up AGAIN.

So.. i don't have to compile a long list of hacks and refunds and excuses and bullshit from Dash guys.
That would be ALL Monero  :D

And..

generalizethis can shut the hell up..
He has had me on ignore for 2 years (he says) then randomly replies back to me.
He has been caught lying his ass off for almost 3 years now when ever it suits him.
So why would i trust a deceitful bullshitter who pretends to have me on ignore ?
If he does ? Then what would he know about this topic ?

Glad you replied, let's examine our differences of opinion. Who knows I may have got you wrong. I will instead talk with you as a civil adult and try to explore your reasoning for your correctly calling dash ultra scammy to now refusing to recognise it as a scam. Also your angle on cheerleading an ultra scammy coin to combat another scheme you say is equally as scammy. If I turn out to missing something and I am wrong about you then of course I will no longer say you appear to have been paid off by dash to protect them under the guise of being xmr obsessed.

@cryptohunter
You want me to rail on against Dash but they are not denying it.
A negative point is shoved in there face and they admit it.
What am i suppose to harp on about ?

Sure bring qwizzie , tao, evan, amanda, otoh , tana, all of them here and let me hear them admit it is a scam.
They have NO choice to admit the events took place they are there for all to see. They then have tried every excuse and far fetched nonsense to explain no wrong doing. They admit nothing.

Then.. Monero.
No matter what happens they play dumb and act like they have done no wrong.

You cluing in yet ?

Then you are doing a good job making threads about them and highlighting the facts you have.


You keep bitching about what the Dash guys did but you are ignoring ALL of the idiotic shit Monero guys have pulled.

Like a laser beam you home in on that 1 thing about Dash then ignore 100 things bad about Monero.
THAT ..is fucked up buddy !


Now it is bitching? highlighting facts about dash ? what about you constantly highlighting what you say are  proven negatives about xmr and every other coin you call a scam or person you call a scammer? are you just one big bitch?

I am not in the monero threads excusing their actions and cheerleading them like you. I can't be expected to find out every wrong doing on the board. If you say there are facts I encourage you to make threads and highlight them. You will not find me in those threads looking to divert or say never mind at least they are doing well now and wow look 50 bucks each bla bla bla

Laser beam homing in on dash? really well check my post history and see that I have highlighted many many many scams on here. None of which are as clear cut as dash with as much observable irrefutable evidence. However still they all say I laser beam on them.

1 thing??? i mean it is not the number of things, it is the magnitude of those things that counts. Do you realise this?
Does 1 thing mean captive instamining HUGE HUGE chunks of the minting unfairly whilst claiming fair release?
Does 1 thing mean then slashing the available minting by 75% so that your captive instamine is worth magnitudes more whilst everyone else gets magnitudes less chance at obtaining coins.... even obtaining them at magnitudes more difficulty ?
Does 1 thing mean then taking further advantage through masternodes of all that loot and saying you by rights get more of the miners coins just for having all the coins you took with unfair advantage??

You mean that 1 thing?


I don't know why you think dash does not have to answer alone for what it has done. Why this constant need to embroil xmr? treat them as a separate entity and they too must be judged alone. Prove your case like it has been done with dash.

I don't want to hear about xmr on dash threads as a diversion make xmr threads for that. You can not excuse or team with one scam to try to highlight another. They must be both judged against non scams.

I have not looked into xmr since I was not interested in it at all personally. It seemed to me all tied up and dominated by very tech wise people and I guessed they would take the lions share without much hope for the less tech wise. I didn't even like the name much. How will I even use that command line thing. If on top of this there is proven other wrong doings then go ahead I will never show up to stop you.

If what you say is true and these deeds were proven to be done by the dev team to get unfair advantage then yes this is a scam. I don't even doubt there is indeed scams everywhere here it is open to such abuse.

Let this be the end of discussion about xmr on this thread.

I see only this pattern.


1. you are a known scam fighter - you rightly label dash as ultra scammy

2. you later announce you are broke and on welfare - no shame in this at all anyone can run into some bad luck

3. you offer your services in a thread for those that will pay.

4. you then turn up in my amanda thread kind of protecting dash and saying you don't see dash as a scam.... i am shocked.

5. I remind you that you said amongst many other negative things dash is ultra scammy and the facts presented on the dash scam threads are not fud they are facts.

6. Later i start to see you on all anti dash threads protecting and cheerleading them accusing anyone who states facts about the dash history are xmr shills and fudders or butthurt

7. I question you and again you refuse to answer if you consider dash a scam

8. 5 x now I question you and each time you refuse to call dash a scam whilst still calling other projects scams and people scammers.


this is where we are now.

If you dont think that timeline looks suspect then you must give everyone else the same benefit of the doubt.
If you dont think any longer dash is a scam then I wonder why and wonder how you can label any other project a scam

Please continue to discuss this as you like since I do not wish to believe you are a scammer yourself now for protecting a known scam.

I would not blame you for taking money if you were desperate but do not lower yourself after all of this time to being seen as an obvious paid shill for dash. Just keep their tokens they stole from honest miners and get back to your normal self. I'm no going to blame one for scamming a known scammer.

I am bored even discussing dash. If they stayed in their own thread and stopped always spamming the main board I would never think of them again. I am actually pleased for those that invested in dash on a fair playing field and made a fortune. Good for them. Most probably are not aware of the start. If evans had done his 2M coin airdrop then all this would have blown over into positive PR even. Even Evans I think should have a few masternodes for all his hard work. But keeping such a huge amount is wrong after how he took them. I mean taking a HUGE amount of coins, magnifying those coins. Using those coins to take another huge amount of coins of what is left to mine. Then not using that stash to develop so take another 10% for development?? this is okay?? whilst all the time saying fair mining fair opportunity, fair distribution.

But if the miners are happy and the legit investors are happy then so be it. It is a scam coin and only the scammers should lose not everyone else involved. Since that is probably not possible then I guess we just have to learn to stop scams before they get too huge and too many people get burned.

Let bygones be bygones. But a scam is a scam simple as that never should it be denied or excused.

There is no point shilling for dash now because people will discount what you say as simply being a dash employee. Best to get back to what you were doing before fudding other scams and being useful to crypto.












Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: Spoetnik on March 12, 2017, 02:09:02 AM
The most useful thing in crypto is keeping my wallet closed.
I have made it crystal clear i do not support ANY anon type coins.
Can you say the same cryptohunter ?
Tell us all how many Monero you have traded over the last couple years.

How many have i owned ?

Dash = 0
Monero = 0
Zcash = 0

(can't remember any other anon coins)

What do we learn from above ?
Well.. ole Spoetnik has FUD'ed the hell out of *ALL* anon coins all along since day one.
And in turn have gotten trolled hard by the Monero crew.
So surprise surprise look who shows up with a Dash angle.. the usual anon coin suspects.

@cryptohunter
..you are just as guilty of defending Monero as i am defending Dash.
The difference is one side admits it pretty much and the other lies their ass of playing innocent little angel.
Do you see how that is different or do i have to spell it out real slow like *again ?

Screeching "Dash Employee" or "he was paid off" etc just makes YOU look like that wacko lunatic not me.
I never had any nor will i nor have i had any offers in any way shape or form.
I post my opinions at Bitcointalk because i believe them and not because i am weighed down by BAGS i am flogging to noobs showing up.. MOST OF YOU can not say the same !



EDIT:

Seems some of you are obsessed with the conclusion..
I am more interested in people seeing ALL the info and then coming to their own conclusion.
I don't expect everyone to agree with me or my opinions.
But i DO hope they see what i see around here and use that to form their own opinions.

It is not Dash who pulled some shit then put out a refund then claimed they have done no wrong.
Do you think what they did was OK ?
Fine but don't pretend something didn't happen.

I have not been "defending Dash" (i am fairly neutral on it) i have been defending the truth.
If people want to scream scam then go ahead.
What i have pointed out is it's usually the same trolls here with puppet accounts pushing an agenda..
MONERO !
And the bullshit that goes on is by the little team of idiots here who are ALWAYS at it.. head to head vs Dash all year round.
While.. pretending it's *ONLY* the Dash guys doing "it"

Monero guys do NOT accept responsibility for anything ever.. problem !

Look around someone is creating these Dash topics year after year by the hundreds starting shit.
Who wants to step up and admit it was them ?
It gets tiring seeing a Dash vs Monero battle for damn near 3 years with 1 side playing the victim etc.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: cryptohunter on March 12, 2017, 02:33:40 AM
The most useful thing in crypto is keeping my wallet closed.
I have made it crystal clear i do not support ANY anon type coins.
Can you say the same cryptohunter ?
Tell us all how many Monero you have traded over the last couple years.

How many have i owned ?

Dash = 0
Monero = 0
Zcash = 0

(can't remember any other anon coins)

What do we learn from above ?
Well.. ole Spoetnik has FUD'ed the hell out of *ALL* anon coins all along since day one.
And in turn have gotten trolled hard by the Monero crew.
So surprise surprise look who shows up with a Dash angle.. the usual anon coin suspects.

@cryptohunter
..you are just as guilty of defending Monero as i am defending Dash.
The difference is one side admits it pretty much and the other lies their ass of playing innocent little angel.
Do you see how that is different or do i have to spell it out real slow like *again ?

Screeching "Dash Employee" or "he was paid off" etc just makes YOU look like that wacko lunatic not me.
I never had any nor will i nor have i had any offers in any way shape or form.
I post my opinions at Bitcointalk because i believe them and not because i am weighed down by BAGS i am flogging to noobs showing up.. MOST OF YOU can not say the same !



EDIT:

Seems some of you are obsessed with the conclusion..
I am more interested in people seeing ALL the info and then coming to their own conclusion.
I don't expect everyone to agree with me or my opinions.
But i DO hope they see what i see around here and use that to form their own opinions.

It is not Dash who pulled some shit then put out a refund then claimed they have done no wrong.
Do you think what they did was OK ?
Fine but don't pretend something didn't happen.

I have not been "defending"Dash.. i am fairly neutral on it.. i have been defending the truth.
If people want to scream scam then go ahead.
What i have pointed out is it's usually the same trolls here with puppet accounts pushing an agenda..
MONERO !
And the bullshit that goes on is by the little team of idiots here who are ALWAYS at it.. head to head vs Dash all year round.
While.. pretending it's *ONLY* the Dash guys doing "it"

Monero guys do NOT accept responsibility for anything ever.. problem !

Look around someone is creating these Dash topics year after year by the hundreds starting shit.
Who wants to step up and admit it was them ?
It gets tiring seeing a Dash vs Monero battle for damn near 3 years with 1 side playing the victim etc.

So from ultra scammy to saying ..i am fairly neutral on it? but the actions on every anti dash thread show differently. Leave dash to fight their own battles. Why would you aid an ultra scammy as you put it scheme.

Why are you mentioning xmr again? it is dash the focus here. No more diversions. Start an xmr thread if you like.

Nobody is going to buy I have any xmr connection simply because I am not like you are in every anti xmr thread protecting them and diverting to dash. Check your post history. What you claim and say is now dubious. So why would I believe you don't own dash that they may have paid you with?

Where is my timeline? check yours again. Go ahead make a cryptohunter xmr suspect timeline in another thread if you feel you can.

1. you are a known scam fighter - you rightly label dash as ultra scammy

2. you later announce you are broke and on welfare - no shame in this at all anyone can run into some bad luck

3. you offer your services in a thread for those that will pay.

4. you then turn up in my amanda thread kind of protecting dash and saying you don't see dash as a scam.... i am shocked.

5. I remind you that you said amongst many other negative things dash is ultra scammy and the facts presented on the dash scam threads are not fud they are facts.

6. Later i start to see you on all anti dash threads protecting and cheerleading them accusing anyone who states facts about the dash history are xmr shills and fudders or butthurt

7. I question you and again you refuse to answer if you consider dash a scam

8. 5 x now I question you and each time you refuse to call dash a scam whilst still calling other projects scams and people scammers.



Explain how I am defending xmr? this point you will need to explain to me again Im afraid.

You can't just say things and expect people to believe you now. I mean you saying you have 0 dash could mean you have several 0's of dash preceded with a larger digit. Who can say only you. Can I believe what you say after such a strange course of actions over these last months since offering your services for pay?

You have to have observable actions and events to corroborate your statements else they are not taken seriously at all.

Many people suggested you had been paid off by dash because your time line of actions suggests it clearly.

Lunatic? really? review the time line again.

I will not discuss xmr with you on this dash thread. This is your favourite and only tactic to disguise your dash protection and shilling.

You need to discuss your stance on dash not dash compared to xmr.

Is it a scam yes or no?

Why are you on every anti dash thread protecting and shilling?

Where am I on the anti xmr threads?

Don't try to divert again with any other coins, anon or non anon nothing. Just dash now.

Do you not think your timeline of events and current actions  looks suspicious?? be serious. No more joking around.

I mean the last time you said you were not protecting dash you were just hating xmr i believed you and put the rumours of you being bought off and nonsense, but then you just went full dash protector, pumper and shill crazy. It was just too obvious. It was not just xmr hate it was dash shilling and still is.

However if you are not on dash threads from now on protecting and shilling then after some time it may all be forgotten.







Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: cryptohunter on March 12, 2017, 03:07:27 AM
spoetnik is now reversing his arguments and entire logical thought patterns.....  

shilling and protecting dash at this very moment....even recycling his old arguments in reverse....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1822133.msg18153654#msg18153654


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: BitcoinNational on March 12, 2017, 05:53:20 AM
spoetnik is now reversing his arguments and entire logical thought patterns.....  

shilling and protecting dash at this very moment....even recycling his old arguments in reverse....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1822133.msg18153654#msg18153654

my only hope is that he is actually on the take,
spoet if you ain't getting paid by the Duff Bucks group,
then you need be, else why waste your top shelf FUD?


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: Minecache on March 12, 2017, 06:16:42 AM
The Spoetniktard is a BTC shill. He will write anything to talk down a great coin just so that he can bag some cheap coinage. Look at all the time and energy he's wasted trying to talk down ETH. ETH is now at support of $22 with the upswing looking towards $50 this year. The days of bagging cheap ETH are over. 


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: Spoetnik on March 12, 2017, 07:56:43 AM
spoetnik is now reversing his arguments and entire logical thought patterns.....  

shilling and protecting dash at this very moment....even recycling his old arguments in reverse....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1822133.msg18153654#msg18153654

my only hope is that he is actually on the take,
spoet if you ain't getting paid by the Duff Bucks group,
then you need be, else why waste your top shelf FUD?

LOL no kidding i SHOULD be getting paid hahhaa
I am generous.. top shelf.. donation'z !!111
Don't say i don't do anything for you guys ;) ..premium baby.. PREMIUM !

As you can see here i am according to the obvious consensus the most important person in the Altcoin scene.
Shill's from Monero and Ethereum as seen here create endless topics on me personally.
They hang on my every word with stary eyes waiting, holding their breath in excitement.
Why else would they be so overly concerned with ole Spoetnik's FUD ?

Threatened ?

Guess what ? Earth gove 0 fucks when i railed on bitching about Doge when it launched.
I was by myself complaining that it lowered the bar and sickened me.
You all happily paraded around claiming it be the Bitcoin Killer.
Nope.. the top-shelf stuff did nothing to stop it.. it played out exactly as i predicted it would too.
In other words what will be ..will be !
Right or wrong there is an outcome and it will happen whether you fight it or not guys.

Clearly the OP here has an obsession with Dash and myself etc.
Not a lot i can do about it aside from recommend him a therapist.
...
He can flop on the couch and whale his eyes out crying OMG liek'z der dis Penguin'z & shit and h3 liekz says stuff about the Monero'z and i am suppoze to havz teh profitz liek omgbbq !!!!ONE
Dem FUDDERZ liek OMG WTF BBQ ?!!!

Pretty simple i do not like the idea of DELIBERATELY making coins to violate AML.
I have criticized them because it's fair users know there is a battle brewing.
Don't mater to me which one.. you are in danger investing in them then having them sit on a govt compliant exchange.

This whole Dash vs Monero battle is of no interest to me.
What does is bullshitters placating the public.

So sure of yourselves ?
Go mortgage your house and buy Monero's then leave them on Polo with your picture ID guys..
and pickup a secure anon untraceable "Hoody" from their merch table on the way over too !
Yup like the one i posted a picture of from Latapie's employee not in hiding but is and not a team member MR Apology for being the victim Davey boy.

Puttering around here lying and trolling for years on end is not exactly a good business plan for your shitcoin Monero tard's.
Just think if you made the effort Dash did to further their coin with marketing you too could be sitting on $70 coins instead of $12 jealous ..crying.

Someone needs to tell your LEADER king Risto that "Marketing" is not spending donated MEW money from Mr. Latapie the treasurer with out permission on forum games so he can as he said before "Make thousands" then so he can tell ALL OF YOU HERE it's a "powerful adoption asset"
You MEW tard's donated to fund the rich guys leisure time activities.
Instead of the king in his castle he lives in with a pink Bentley playing Minesweeper or Solitaire you all crowd funded him a Monero game he can control with an iron fist .... for profits

....oh and "adoption" of course  :D

Maybe instead of being mad at Dash you should fire your leader ?
Oh wait you can't  ;D
It's his coin and his game you are playing.. and he can take his ball and go home anytime he wants dumping and crashing the price and pulling his permanent pledged support.
(Which is what has kept the dead shitcoin afloat for 3 years running)

Moral of the story ?
Dash is horrible ..so buy Monero ?
Me ? i Choose neither.. and no Zcash or Zcoin etc  :D


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: BitcoinNational on March 12, 2017, 09:08:33 AM
BUT iz liek'z der dis Penguin'z coin :(

---
Spoet I think you're on the wrong side of history.
But if you are making any hay on this Dash moon shot.
Good on you.  Flash a dash addie, at least the cabbage patch fanboys can micro tip you, but Duff and A-MAN-da owe you a hefty tip.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: cryptohunter on March 12, 2017, 05:52:42 PM
spoetnik is now reversing his arguments and entire logical thought patterns.....  

shilling and protecting dash at this very moment....even recycling his old arguments in reverse....

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1822133.msg18153654#msg18153654

my only hope is that he is actually on the take,
spoet if you ain't getting paid by the Duff Bucks group,
then you need be, else why waste your top shelf FUD?

LOL no kidding i SHOULD be getting paid hahhaa
I am generous.. top shelf.. donation'z !!111
Don't say i don't do anything for you guys ;) ..premium baby.. PREMIUM !

As you can see here i am according to the obvious consensus the most important person in the Altcoin scene.
Shill's from Monero and Ethereum as seen here create endless topics on me personally.
They hang on my every word with stary eyes waiting, holding their breath in excitement.
Why else would they be so overly concerned with ole Spoetnik's FUD ?

Threatened ?

Guess what ? Earth gove 0 fucks when i railed on bitching about Doge when it launched.
I was by myself complaining that it lowered the bar and sickened me.
You all happily paraded around claiming it be the Bitcoin Killer.
Nope.. the top-shelf stuff did nothing to stop it.. it played out exactly as i predicted it would too.
In other words what will be ..will be !
Right or wrong there is an outcome and it will happen whether you fight it or not guys.

Clearly the OP here has an obsession with Dash and myself etc.
Not a lot i can do about it aside from recommend him a therapist.
...
He can flop on the couch and whale his eyes out crying OMG liek'z der dis Penguin'z & shit and h3 liekz says stuff about the Monero'z and i am suppoze to havz teh profitz liek omgbbq !!!!ONE
Dem FUDDERZ liek OMG WTF BBQ ?!!!

Pretty simple i do not like the idea of DELIBERATELY making coins to violate AML.
I have criticized them because it's fair users know there is a battle brewing.
Don't mater to me which one.. you are in danger investing in them then having them sit on a govt compliant exchange.

This whole Dash vs Monero battle is of no interest to me.
What does is bullshitters placating the public.

So sure of yourselves ?
Go mortgage your house and buy Monero's then leave them on Polo with your picture ID guys..
and pickup a secure anon untraceable "Hoody" from their merch table on the way over too !
Yup like the one i posted a picture of from Latapie's employee not in hiding but is and not a team member MR Apology for being the victim Davey boy.

Puttering around here lying and trolling for years on end is not exactly a good business plan for your shitcoin Monero tard's.
Just think if you made the effort Dash did to further their coin with marketing you too could be sitting on $70 coins instead of $12 jealous ..crying.

Someone needs to tell your LEADER king Risto that "Marketing" is not spending donated MEW money from Mr. Latapie the treasurer with out permission on forum games so he can as he said before "Make thousands" then so he can tell ALL OF YOU HERE it's a "powerful adoption asset"
You MEW tard's donated to fund the rich guys leisure time activities.
Instead of the king in his castle he lives in with a pink Bentley playing Minesweeper or Solitaire you all crowd funded him a Monero game he can control with an iron fist .... for profits

....oh and "adoption" of course  :D

Maybe instead of being mad at Dash you should fire your leader ?
Oh wait you can't  ;D
It's his coin and his game you are playing.. and he can take his ball and go home anytime he wants dumping and crashing the price and pulling his permanent pledged support.
(Which is what has kept the dead shitcoin afloat for 3 years running)

Moral of the story ?
Dash is horrible ..so buy Monero ?
Me ? i Choose neither.. and no Zcash or Zcoin etc  :D

Sounds like a lot of diversion to me. Even you admit they should be paying you for such shilling.

That post seals it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1822133.msg18153654#msg18153654

complete reversal of the argument. Terrible to see.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: btctube on March 12, 2017, 06:02:46 PM

Money changes hearts that's the truth. One day he says something and say another thing opposite to what he said yesterday, it happen all the time even inside a class where professors tell something else apart form what is in the book.  Spoetnik probably have bag some dash before it hit road. Depending Dash is nothing new, they'd all jumping in the next train stop.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: Spoetnik on March 12, 2017, 07:50:30 PM
I have never had a Dash or Monero address of any kind ever.
I'd have to go get one but i can't be bothered..

You may not like it or agree with me but i can assure you all it's not financially motivated.

It speaks volumes when some of you can not mentally comprehend that people would in fact do things in crypto .. for the good of crypto.
That says far more about you than it does me guys.

I don't see negative things sooo bad.
It's almost worse playing the denial game.
Look at Dash it has rocketed up even though it has gotten lots of FUD for an instamine.
They weren't denying it though... vs ?

I am not here to crucify people for making mistakes.
Or.. bend over backwards trying to single out people.
I am after getting the crowd to be honest & legit because it's in their own best interest.
I am not trying to play the crypto-police.  :D

We can safely say that Monero & Dash have been intertwined here for years.
I see a big difference between both camps.
One is making an effort to keep it real and the other slings bullshit non stop.
The big fat Monero eraser always seems to sweep their drama under the rug and then Dash's gets highlighted.
I seen pages posted lots EXPLAINING the instamine accusation..
Then i see a complete 100% denial that the Monero team has done A N Y T H I N G wrong... evvvveeeerr.
See the difference ?

And it's all there for you to see with your eyes.
Attacking the person who points it out makes no difference.
Crying FUD etc does not change reality guys.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: cryptohunter on March 12, 2017, 11:08:10 PM
I have never had a Dash or Monero address of any kind ever.
I'd have to go get one but i can't be bothered..

You may not like it or agree with me but i can assure you all it's not financially motivated.

It speaks volumes when some of you can not mentally comprehend that people would in fact do things in crypto .. for the good of crypto.
That says far more about you than it does me guys.

I don't see negative things sooo bad.
It's almost worse playing the denial game.
Look at Dash it has rocketed up even though it has gotten lots of FUD for an instamine.
They weren't denying it though... vs ?

I am not here to crucify people for making mistakes.
Or.. bend over backwards trying to single out people.
I am after getting the crowd to be honest & legit because it's in their own best interest.
I am not trying to play the crypto-police.  :D

We can safely say that Monero & Dash have been intertwined here for years.
I see a big difference between both camps.
One is making an effort to keep it real and the other slings bullshit non stop.
The big fat Monero eraser always seems to sweep their drama under the rug and then Dash's gets highlighted.
I seen pages posted lots EXPLAINING the instamine accusation..
Then i see a complete 100% denial that the Monero team has done A N Y T H I N G wrong... evvvveeeerr.
See the difference ?

And it's all there for you to see with your eyes.
Attacking the person who points it out makes no difference.
Crying FUD etc does not change reality guys.

But your reality has changed 180 degrees? I mean your entire thought process has been reversed regarding dash anyway.

Instamine accusation .... haha

You reversed your stance on the proven instamine as being ultra scammy and reversed your entire argument to project what was proven to you to be ultra scammy.....for....the good of crypto?? makes sense right ?

So all these years fighting scams for the good of crypto.... now shilling protecting the ultra scams he highlighted for the good of crypto... the anti spoetnik again. As I pointed out here already for another 180 degree change of argument https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1822133.msg18153654#msg18153654

Ill throw in some more xmr diversion and try with that angle again?

Your excuses are getting worse and worse. Better to admit getting paid off rather than looking like you have no clue what to say next. You are looking almost unhinged. I think you are going to damage dash even more... you can not start pulling total reversals on things for no apparent reason and remain credible. Even your explanations for this behaviour seem strange and irrational.

Just forget it. You admit you should be getting paid from dash for the shilling and protecting. That is enough after calling it an ultra scam and saying the instamine was a fact not fud.

I dont  think any wise person could trust what you say now.

Everything points to a pay off - fair enough I hope it was enough to make it worth it.

Carry on looking ridiculous saying anything negative now about any other project. You now live in the biggest glasshouse ...casting stones now is going to be a big issue for you. People will just reply to anything you say... SSShhhh dash shill you have no room to talk. If you can cheerlead and stick up for dash then you cant say negative stuff about other projects at all.



Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: dinofelis on March 13, 2017, 07:04:23 AM
People just love scammy winners.    That is why DASH's future is going to be bright.



Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: Rockie1234 on March 13, 2017, 07:42:25 AM
People just love scammy winners.    That is why DASH's future is going to be bright.



Exactly, here lies the problem. If I had to make a choice, I'd support scammy winners over scammy, butt hurt losers every day of the week.  You tell me cryptohunter, what kind of a life are you living if you are monitoring Spoetnik (a random person on the Internet)'s every comment? People know about the instamine, but they seem to not care. Whether that's important is another question, but why don't you spend time improving the image of Monero, instead of endlessly rekindling this Dash vs Monero war in an attempt to harm Dash?


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: cryptohunter on March 13, 2017, 10:00:44 AM
People just love scammy winners.    That is why DASH's future is going to be bright.



Exactly, here lies the problem. If I had to make a choice, I'd support scammy winners over scammy, butt hurt losers every day of the week.  You tell me cryptohunter, what kind of a life are you living if you are monitoring Spoetnik (a random person on the Internet)'s every comment? People know about the instamine, but they seem to not care. Whether that's important is another question, but why don't you spend time improving the image of Monero, instead of endlessly rekindling this Dash vs Monero war in an attempt to harm Dash?

You post makes little sense to me sorry. Construct something sensible rather than construct your own version of what I am saying so that I may give you an appropriate answer.

The part I did glean from your nonsense is that you would support scams. That is where started to lose interest.

Perhaps spend more time monitoring my posts if you want to reply on them.

People do seem to care take a look around the forum. If nobody cared then why do I see many people mentioning and objecting to it.

I never want to mention xmr. You and spoetnik do as a diversion.

So I hope this helps you understand that I know you're a scammer and that you are lacking simple comprehension skills that would reveal to you that I am not interested in hearing anything on this thread about xmr. It is brough up by you and spoetnik as a diversion to the specific point I am making here. Make your own thread about xmr and get that other dash shill spoetnik on it with you.





Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: iamnotback on March 14, 2017, 01:20:51 AM
I don't see negative things sooo bad.
It's almost worse playing the denial game.
Look at Dash it has rocketed up even though it has gotten lots of FUD for an instamine.
They weren't denying it though... vs ?

...

We can safely say that Monero & Dash have been intertwined here for years.
I see a big difference between both camps.
One is making an effort to keep it real and the other slings bullshit non stop.
The big fat Monero eraser always seems to sweep their drama under the rug and then Dash's gets highlighted.
I seen pages posted lots EXPLAINING the instamine accusation..
Then i see a complete 100% denial that the Monero team has done A N Y T H I N G wrong... evvvveeeerr.
See the difference ?

@cryptohunter, @Spoetnik isn't likely on the Dash payroll. His psychology is that he cares more about ego and attitude more than he does about actual fraud.

For him, he thinks Dash has done a mea culpa and that Monero's folks are holier than thou unrepentant. He really believes that.

It is amazing to me that he is so focused on attitude readjustment (and I do agree that some but not all in the Monero camp have a shitty arrogant attitude), that he can't see the elephant in the living room. It is true that the Dash folks are more congenial, but @Spoetnik can't see the red, white, and blue dick being rammed up his ass (https://youtu.be/kJ4SSvVbhLw?t=236).

Specifically, he ignores the fact that all the people who buy Dash are sending their money into Evan Inc's pocket via the ONGOING masternode scam. But that is a bit too difficult for Spoetnuts to compute, and he prefers to focus on personalities such as whether Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump is more polite.


Title: Re: SPOETNIK says dash is an ULTRA SCAMMY coin! but now wants to defend it??? why???
Post by: generalizethis on March 14, 2017, 01:36:48 AM
I don't see negative things sooo bad.
It's almost worse playing the denial game.
Look at Dash it has rocketed up even though it has gotten lots of FUD for an instamine.
They weren't denying it though... vs ?

...

We can safely say that Monero & Dash have been intertwined here for years.
I see a big difference between both camps.
One is making an effort to keep it real and the other slings bullshit non stop.
The big fat Monero eraser always seems to sweep their drama under the rug and then Dash's gets highlighted.
I seen pages posted lots EXPLAINING the instamine accusation..
Then i see a complete 100% denial that the Monero team has done A N Y T H I N G wrong... evvvveeeerr.
See the difference ?

@cryptohunter, @Spoetnik isn't likely on the Dash payroll. His psychology is that he cares more about ego and attitude more than he does about actual fraud.

For him, he thinks Dash has done a mea culpa and that Monero's folks are holier than thou unrepentant. He really believes that.

It is amazing to me that he is so focused on attitude readjustment (and I do agree that some but not all in the Monero camp have a shitty arrogant attitude), that he can't see the elephant in the living room. It is true that the Dash folks are more congenial, but @Spoetnik can't see the red, white, and blue dick being rammed up his ass (https://youtu.be/kJ4SSvVbhLw?t=236).

Specifically, he ignores the fact that all the people who buy Dash are sending their money into Evan Inc's pocket via the ONGOING masternode scam. But that is a bit too difficult for Spoetnuts to compute, and he prefers to focus on personalities such as whether Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump is more polite.

Given the company he chooses to keep, I'll go with monetarily incentivized rather than pathetic delusion and megalomania.