Spoet is lovin Dash just to piss off Monero shills.
In an indirect way maybe yes.
The Monero guys are sly clever sleazy profiteers who will in fact bullshit when it suits them.
THAT is what bothers me.
They parade around as having a perfect track record which is bullshit.
I know i have been here since Monero started.
I never paid much attention to Dash and i had gave Dark Coin FUD way back for the reasons i mentioned earlier.
I never did see the name change.. i don't think i even clued in for a long while too.
Dash guys have flown under my radar because they seem to be a lot less likely to spin bullshit here.
Is Dash a scam ? Tough to say.. you have to gauge the data and come to a conclusion.
Don't forget i have "defended" iGotSpots along the same lines here too.. and boy did i get flamed for that.
What i am after here is real honest info put on the table (forum)
I have called Monero a scam before but i can't really call them a scam anymore than Dash.
Confirmed scam and "scammy" are not the same.
You need to know the intent..
Because Evan changed the reward early on is bad but was it a way to get more coins ?
I really have no idea at all.
I would have to take that and then look at other aspects.. such as a track record of honesty.
Which is where Monero burns my ass again.. they *DO* have a long massive track record of lying and playing games and bullshiting etc.
Vs Dash ?
I add up the columns and i see one worse than the other.
The data is on the web for you all to get and check yourselves.
Do both sides use puppet accounts etc ? of course.. that is not proof of scam though.
I tend to see 1 side CAUSING more problems than the other.
Seems to me the Monero gang is worse and then tries to come off as perfect little angels
..denying everything all along for years.
I don't care much about either.. i just see one as being worse that's all.
Here have another read through especially this first part. Then consider the slashing of the minting to magnify this loot. Then consider if it was all an accident why not relaunch after the first few hours of taking all the coins. You have one of the other devs saying he had hundreds of thousands of coins after just a few hours after launch. If you took so many hours to decide ULTRA SCAMMY and SCAM are so different and that you can still cheerlead on an ultra scammy coin on the guise of doing it to piss off a group of people you say promote an equally bad scammy coin then that is strange. You can not cheer on an ultra scammy coin and expect to lecture on any other projects you consider scammy or ultra scammy.
If you are not longer willing to produce fud on dash on the basis you believe it was all just a series of accidents then you are no longer able to produce fud on any other projects else it is double standards. Even then cheerleading an ultra scammy coin is very questionable
I am not against you personally. However if you joined dash knowing what you know then that is reprehensible. Hating xmr is no excuse. You must not support ultra scammy projects for any reason. Fighting xmr or arguing with them is a separate issue. Don't divert on dash threads to xmr at every opportunity. Make your own xmr threads. Even if you believe xmr is a scammy project it does not make dash a project you should be cheerleading and praising.
To me it looks like you have been paid off on dash and have done a 180. I have not seen you cheerlead or be positive regarding any other scammy projects so that is the only viable explanation. Although at first I rejected other peoples claims this was the case. It is only now that I notice you on every anti dash thread protecting and diverting. If you stop this then you will no longer look like a paid dash shill.
Your explanation to me seems dubious at best so far because you have been ready to accept a project is a scam for far far less evidence than that of the dash scam.
Stop it now
1. because it does no good now many suspect you're a dash employee (it's like hearing qwizzie with his lame excuses)
2. because if you stop now perhaps people will forget about it and put it down to a bad decision and no permanent damage done to your credibility.
Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4589219#msg4589219Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4591407#msg4591407 Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4592827#msg4592827Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593601#msg4593601 Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593987#msg4593987 No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4594096#msg4594096 Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4595573#msg4595573 From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now.
SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme = dash
This latest defence is so strange. Where are the victims ? what are you talking about it is there in black and white.
1. everyone who was told it was a fair launch LIKE ALL THE OTHER LAUNCHES AT THE TIME. - then prevented from mining fairly = scammed
2. everyone who was told there would be much more opportunity to mine ( then that got slashed by 75%) - prevented from mining the coins that were then taken away = scammed.
here are your victims.
3. everyone buying now thinking dash can go somewhere not knowing the scam it is will forever hold it back = being scammed.
Every dasher on here trying to scam others into supporting your scam = scammers.
I will be updating my scammers thread to add all of your names to it.
Denying a scam after it is proven time and time again to you in black and white = scam enabler and defender = scammer.
Threads examining the evidence of the captive instamine and reduction of the minting to magnify such instamining ...PROOF OF SCAM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999084.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0
