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Title: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: Vito Corleone on March 19, 2017, 05:49:40 PM
Enough Bitcoin for me, i am in Altcoin section because i want exchange my bitcoins to more stable crypto and i need your recommendations.
Advices wait price will come back won't help, i am out.

I am thinking about:

Tether
Ripple

Problem i don't trust tether, users only can login through website and it's probably too much centralized.
Can't trust Ripple either, where bankers play corruption and strange things happen..

Well probably i need to exchange to USD and stop playing this crypto game... What you can recommend?


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: CurrenSky on March 19, 2017, 06:05:14 PM
Enough Bitcoin for me, i am in Altcoin section because i want exchange my bitcoins to more stable crypto and i need your recommendations.
Advices wait price will come back won't help, i am out.

I am thinking about:

Tether
Ripple

Problem i don't trust tether, users only can login through website and it's probably too much centralized.
Can't trust Ripple either, where bankers play corruption and strange things happen..

Well probably i need to exchange to USD and stop playing this crypto game... What you can recommend?
Did you think/hear about CurrenSky (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1693625.0)?

;)


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: aioc on March 19, 2017, 06:23:11 PM
You are the one you should give the final decision,if you have doubt then don't,better exchange your cryptos to dollar again,because you seems to be fed up on what's going on in the crypto currency community,but then again you still have coinmarketcap to guide you.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: CoinHoarder on March 19, 2017, 06:26:38 PM
I recommend holding your Bitcoins. Given enough time, the price will rebound and reach new ATHS.

If you put your money in Tether, you are guaranteed to lose the money you already lost due to volatility. I think this is easily the worst option you propose, unless you will be needing to cash out to FIAT within the next month or two or if you want to try and increase your BTC holdings, betting that BTC will continue to drop in the short term. It is possible that the BTC price could go down even more over that timeframe, but buying and holding Tether long term is a bad investment. Might as well cash out to FIAT and put it in a savings account if you're going to do that.

Ripple is also a bad choice IMO. I think there are a lot better alts that you could put your money into. But, if you are dead set on Tether or Ripple for a long term investment, Ripple is the better option, as at least you have the chance of regaining your losses. I still think holding your Bitcoin is your best option there though.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: fusilero40 on March 19, 2017, 06:59:26 PM
Puts money in bytecoin has a long term future


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: cryptohunter on March 19, 2017, 07:14:57 PM
look for useful tech, good dev that has not yet pumped perhaps beyond it's actual relative value

bitbay.

There are others but I suggest you take a look at that first and make your own decision.
If you come across a better option  then PM me I will be interested too.



Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: innergy on March 19, 2017, 07:24:30 PM
look for useful tech, good dev that has not yet pumped perhaps beyond it's actual relative value

..


Sounds like Byteball.. ;)


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: Spoetnik on March 19, 2017, 10:51:02 PM
Did some poking around and i think it's possible the OP here posted simply so the first poster could advertise his ICO.
Vito Corleone (Junior account) posted then 5 minutes later another Junior account posted first suggesting the CurrenSky ICO.
Both seem to have weak English and Vito said he'd from the Netherlands.
The ICO coin has a lot of ties to that area of Europe too.

Looking at both their full post history i see a lot of reoccurring weird broken English.
The first thing i seen looking at the the ICO was problems about refusing to use an escrow for it.
Then i of course seen the site whois was protected by good ole Scotsdale (like 90% of coins)

Noobs galore + Noob ICO + probably sock-puppet account shenanigans.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: DrkLvr_ on March 19, 2017, 10:53:04 PM
Good plan. there's no volatility in Altcoins


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: klaaas on March 19, 2017, 10:55:54 PM
A more stable altcoin.... no way.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: azgal0r on March 19, 2017, 11:08:37 PM
Lost thousands because of volatility, and for some reason goes to something even more volatile :')

Looks like a thread to promote a scam coin :)


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: Spoetnik on March 20, 2017, 04:20:02 AM
A more stable altcoin.... no way.

Ya that made me suspicious earlier.
Both the OP and then the currensky guy used that word.
And what do they mean anyway ? code or market price ?
If price LTC is pretty damn stable LOL  ;D


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: Herbert2020 on March 20, 2017, 05:57:58 AM
lost thousands of bitcoin? really? how many thousands? 1? 2? 10? and how did you lose that? you want us to believe you had 1,200,000 to 12,000,000 USD and lost it?

was your wallet hacked because you were incapable of making a cold storage or setting a password for encrypting it?

or did you lose that much in trading? well price only fell about 14% from the top so that means to lose 1000BTC you needed to have 7142BTC.

or maybe you were talking about satoshi ;D

Enough Bitcoin for me, i am in Altcoin section because i want exchange my bitcoins to more stable crypto and i need your recommendations.

have you ever seen a price chart of any of these altcoins before? if not i suggest taking a quick peek at the charts with 1 day interval while showing ALL of the history.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: upsidedown75 on March 20, 2017, 06:15:11 AM
Well probably i need to exchange to USD and stop playing this crypto game... What you can recommend?
If you quit crypto world, that could be your life's biggest mistake. Leading a life without knowing one opportunity is different than ignoring one reliable opportunity, later may end up in regretting. I suggest not to take decisions of stop playing with crypto, but play carefully.

I do see some people suspect on your losses. I do not want to enter there. But I want you not to repeat the same mistakes. Holding for long is the simple requirement to stay within profits which maybe completely different for the case of altcoins.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: Spoetnik on March 20, 2017, 06:47:35 AM
How about keeping your wallet closed until the right opportunity comes along and STILL being a participant and supporter of cryptography related digital currencies ?

hey, there's a thought huh ?  :D


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: disconnectme on March 20, 2017, 07:16:43 AM
Well probably i need to exchange to USD and stop playing this crypto game?
DO you know that Fiat currencies too are volatile. It depends on you game plan. I have 60:20:20 ratio of Bitcoin:Altcoin:USDT. I believe in Bitcoin and know the price can only get higher once this scaling debate is over, also know that the hard fork might be a good deal for Bitcoin holders because you stand a chance to get free BTU tokens


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: Geraldo on March 20, 2017, 08:07:11 AM
Have you heard of PIVX?


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: gredisgold88 on March 20, 2017, 08:24:38 AM
maybe you can see some ico. Qtum and new ico, this is better than some crypto. and having experienced a very high increase in eth and dash, usd in bitcoin decreased passable, and my speculation a few months btc will decline, while some cryptocurrency will increase the price with usd.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: dishku on March 20, 2017, 08:33:00 AM
Better move all your bitcoin is USD and give up this world but I don't think OP have any decent amount like he is claiming lost of thousands of the bitcoin. Anyway this thread made me laugh when somebody claim like this. ;)


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: CoinHoarder on March 20, 2017, 01:42:54 PM
I don't think OP have any decent amount like he is claiming lost of thousands of the bitcoin. Anyway this thread made me laugh when somebody claim like this. ;)

Despite the thread title, I think he meant that he lost thousands of dollars. Judging by his OP, English is not his first language.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: 2dogs on March 20, 2017, 05:59:21 PM
Enough Bitcoin for me, i am in Altcoin section because i want exchange my bitcoins to more stable crypto and i need your recommendations.
Advices wait price will come back won't help, i am out.

I am thinking about:

Tether
Ripple

Problem i don't trust tether, users only can login through website and it's probably too much centralized.
Can't trust Ripple either, where bankers play corruption and strange things happen..

Well probably i need to exchange to USD and stop playing this crypto game... What you can recommend?

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: disconnectme on March 22, 2017, 08:16:18 AM

Enough Bitcoin for me, i am in Altcoin section because i want exchange my bitcoins to more stable crypto and i need your recommendations.
Advices wait price will come back won't help, i am out.

I am thinking about:

Tether
Ripple

Problem i don't trust tether, users only can login through website and it's probably too much centralized.
Can't trust Ripple either, where bankers play corruption and strange things happen..

Well probably i need to exchange to USD and stop playing this crypto game... What you can recommend?

Intersting you want to leave Bitcoin and more into Ripple what a joke. There is no way you can lose your Bitcoin if you remain in BTC, the only concern you may have is the USD valuation but on a long term basis this doesn't count


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: Dimelord on March 22, 2017, 09:49:21 AM
Enough Bitcoin for me, i am in Altcoin section because i want exchange my bitcoins to more stable crypto and i need your recommendations.
Advices wait price will come back won't help, i am out.

I am thinking about:

Tether
Ripple

Problem i don't trust tether, users only can login through website and it's probably too much centralized.
Can't trust Ripple either, where bankers play corruption and strange things happen..

Well probably i need to exchange to USD and stop playing this crypto game... What you can recommend?
If you could not hold bitcoins due to its volatility,then how could you hold an altcoin which is much more volatile than bitcoin.You couldnot find even a single altcoin better than bitcoin in volatility.I have lost a lot in altcoins due to pump and dump situations and i find bitcoin as a better stable asset.I think you would have traded in bitcoins in short term basis and bitcoin is very much beneficial if traded in a long term basis.That makes the difference.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: numismatist on April 14, 2017, 10:57:18 PM
The first thing i seen looking at the the ICO was problems about refusing to use an escrow for it.
Then i of course seen the site whois was protected by good ole Scotsdale (like 90% of coins)
No escrow nails it, of course. But that more sort of a soft scamm detection pattern, how to discover that?


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: pearlmen on April 14, 2017, 11:16:21 PM
I will say, you just need to accept the risk because even the alt you are considering changing into, you are not sure the price will stay stable and you are also not sure if you won't lose more by the time people dump on the coin and no one is ready to patronise and this will be made possible becausenyou won't be owning a quantity that will direct the flow of price after all.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: xuan87 on April 15, 2017, 12:05:44 AM
I think bitcoin is the most stable coin, other alt coin got more swing than bitcoin and the swing is usually pretty huge, tether is too stable and you can't make any profit from it, if you want to find the most stable investment then invest in fiat, there are no stability in crypto currencies


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: sportis on April 19, 2017, 07:00:44 PM
I don't believe OP has any interest about what people here are proposing to him. Moreover the title of the thread and his English words are a bit weird. So maybe what he says is excessive or he simply trying to promote something as someone told above. As you see after March 19 he didn't post anything. Someone had lost thousand of bitcoins would behave more responsibly.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: Raja_MBZ on April 19, 2017, 07:34:10 PM
Bitcoin, Ethereum are the only two "very stable" long-term crypto-currencies now.

Other than these two, I don't think there is any crypto with extreme stable future. Even Monero can be dumped or pumped hard any time, IMO.


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: BitcoinNational on April 19, 2017, 08:30:55 PM
Did some poking around and i think it's possible the OP here posted simply so the first poster could advertise his ICO.
Vito Corleone (Junior account) posted then 5 minutes later another Junior account posted first suggesting the CurrenSky ICO.
Both seem to have weak English and Vito said he'd from the Netherlands.
The ICO coin has a lot of ties to that area of Europe too.

Looking at both their full post history i see a lot of reoccurring weird broken English.
The first thing i seen looking at the the ICO was problems about refusing to use an escrow for it.
Then i of course seen the site whois was protected by good ole Scotsdale (like 90% of coins)

Noobs galore + Noob ICO + probably sock-puppet account shenanigans.
http://pre11.deviantart.net/dbf0/th/pre/f/2010/258/a/c/ac71ca514bf240f0c21535ad898d2a2f-d2ytc1u.jpg


Title: Re: Lost Thousands Of Bitcoins Because Of Volatility
Post by: CurrenSky on April 20, 2017, 06:28:17 PM
Did some poking around and i think it's possible the OP here posted simply so the first poster could advertise his ICO.
Vito Corleone (Junior account) posted then 5 minutes later another Junior account posted first suggesting the CurrenSky ICO.
Both seem to have weak English and Vito said he'd from the Netherlands.
The ICO coin has a lot of ties to that area of Europe too.

Looking at both their full post history i see a lot of reoccurring weird broken English.
The first thing i seen looking at the the ICO was problems about refusing to use an escrow for it.
Then i of course seen the site whois was protected by good ole Scotsdale (like 90% of coins)

Noobs galore + Noob ICO + probably sock-puppet account shenanigans.

Hello Spoetnik,

We are not linked at all with the other account.
On the other hand we understand people to be suspicious about our concept and this post.

The team of CurrenSky is full of non native english speakers, we are sorry if our english isn't perfect.
We cannot use an escrow system, we explained many times why : This is backed up by real estate and we CANNOT launch it if we don't have the real estate backup.

Feel free to ask any question as long as we can answer, we will.

Thanks

A more stable altcoin.... no way.

Hello klaaas,

CurrenSky will be backed up by international real estate.
The goal is to make its value the most stable on the market and in addition, create a financial interests for all of its users (thanks to rentings).
For more information, do not hesitate to visit our page (https://CurrenSky.com) and our annoucement (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1693625).

Thanks


A more stable altcoin.... no way.

Ya that made me suspicious earlier.
Both the OP and then the currensky guy used that word.
And what do they mean anyway ? code or market price ?
If price LTC is pretty damn stable LOL  ;D

Dear Spoetnik,

You can find more information in our pseudo-white paper.
But in a few words it is made to be more stable on :
-The value (no or very low volatility)
-The network hashrate(/attack probability)
-The growth (no exponential move is possible)

But to really understand the main aspects, please dig more in our post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1693625), the website (https://currensky.com/) and the pseudo-white paper (https://currensky.com/white_paper).

Many thanks for your understandings and sorry for taking that long to answer.


PS : We answered fastly to this thread at first because Anthony (Founder of our project) is using a mobile app called "ZeroBlock (https://zeroblock.com/)", he saw the post and we managed to answer to it.