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Done without an ICO.
Done without premine or instamine.
Done without Poloniex trying to play kingmaker.
Done without any major exchange or trading manipulation.
Done without BitcoinTalk  hype-machine.

Done by a great community on Slack (over 1,000+ members). Amazing development team. Transparent governance. Fair announcement and fair-POW distribution.

A crypto being built from the best of Dash, Bitcoin, and Zerocoin protocol. Privacy focused POS with masternode/staking reward structure that incentivizes ownership and funds development. Low interest rate. Over 1,800 unique-IP masternodes.

I am so sick of this hyped-up, scam-filled, pre-mine, exchange-insider traded cryptocurrency space. It is refreshing to see a project built on the backs of one hell of a community.

WHATS UP SON!!! THIS IS HOW YOU DO CRYPTO THE RIGHT WAY!

No instamine, no ico, no premine, nothing. Just a totally amazing community that is growing as fast as the price. We must have struck a nerve.

Are you sure? Cryptohunter spends a lot of time on here hyping it.


Its worth noting here that a lot of this is on the to-do list. I mean the 10% treasury system broke 6 months ago with a "small bug" (according to someone in slack) and it still not fixed. Zerocoin protocol is "to do" not implemented.

Now i'm not saying I dont like the idea of the coin, but I hope the dev's have the skill and endurance to do what they say they are going to do with it.

I do have a little bit in PIVX, but not much. Once treasury system is fixed if it looks like its developing well i'll probably get more.

My favorite small project

(also big on BTC, ETH, NEM, and ZCash)

https://pivx.org/2017/03/21/integration-poswallet-adds-pivx/

http://178.254.23.111/~pub/DN/DN_masternode_payments_stats.html

Last update: Wed Mar 22 02:10:02 CET 2017

Review my post history.... i've been ADVISING people to EXAMINE it for THEMSELVES since 500 sats. Should have listened then should you not?

How is advising people to look at it and decide for themselves hyping it?

You would be sitting on 100x *108x  gains instead of whining about me giving you pure gold.


Same for bitbay I have been advising people to examine it since 60 sats....

* had to edit because it went up to 108x in the time it took me to post it lol

Ok, I'll review your post history.


*it would have if their treasury was working, it isnt and hasnt been for 6 months.


*The developers hope to adopt zerocoin in the future


Price increase speculation


May overtake Dash, the 3rd crypto by market cap


Pivx marketing image


Trying to encourage other people to discuss PIVX more


I wonder how many skilled programmers they have. I am not saying its 0, dont get me wrong, but I do wonder.


More price speculation


It could well, but it wont while their treasury is broken


Become a PIVX whale, you can make a fortune. Doesn't sound like hype at all to me.


Yeah come on guys, help me hype this coin!!


I'm glad there are two uses of the word "could" in that quote.


Everyone come, help me hype!!


So anyway, I could keep going through your post history but I dont have all day.

As I said in my last post, I do have some PIVX, I like the ambitions of the coin, my main concern is that all the devs have really had to do so far is copy paste and tweak code and the treasury system has been down for 6 months with a minor bug. I mean, if I was them relying on that for funding I would have that back up and running ASAP if I could. Maybe they cant?

Maybe.

And yes, I admit, when I was going through your post history I did find a lot of posts saying "you could do some research on PIVX it seems like a good coin" but, it wouldn't be any fun quoting that now would it?

FYI my PIVX has gone up 8x since I got it so i'm not displeased about the pump.

6mil to top ten.

Got out at 62c, that will do for me.

Getting too paranoid about about a dump now.

If it keeps mooning cryptohunter your free to make fun of me all you like :)

it is good to finally see a new coin which is also good in many aspects of it come out and we finally stop seeing all the old pump and dump coins with lots of whale manipulation.
on top of that the profit this coin is giving, has been pretty good.

don't ever fee bad about getting out early.
as a trader to be successful you need to stick to your plan and don't change it. if you got profit then be happy about the glass half full. trust me, in the long run you'll sleep better and have much more profit :D

I got over 6x profit, but didnt really have very much in it.

Still, 600% in a few days, not too bad.

I would call you wrong on this one. The hype is what made PIVX a decent coin

Ok, I'll review your post history. - then he goes to the actual pivX thread ?? hyping to their own community?? thats going to be effective compared to marketing on the main board.

SNIP - goes to the pivx thread and looks for comments of me encouraging pivX's own community ?? this is not the usual way to hype. Where are your comments about Dash makin 10x the amount of threads on the main board and actually hyping like we will create a nation based on dash, we will over take fiat and the USD. I know you invested in that scam coin so I bet you're down on that although you'll claim of course that you're up on it since investing.

And yes, I admit, when I was going through your post history I did find a lot of posts saying "you could do some research on PIVX it seems like a good coin" but, it wouldn't be any fun quoting that now would it?

So you admit to selectively taking my post history and quoting only the parts you want to make you statements look true. Whilst not posting the comments that make up the vast majority I make on the main board where I have said since 500 sats look into it yourselves and make your own decision. I don't think it is possible to be too negative on someone consistantly saying investigate for yourselves a 500 sat coin that is now hitting 60000 sats right?

What? i said on their own thread they should market this coin more because it is not even being mentioned there at the time? go take a look at dash they have the biggest spammers on this board with qwizzie, tao and those other spamming liars who constantly actually tell multiple lies on every thread, and yet you invest in that and don't mention their antics?? still hyping hard at 100 bucks per scamming instamined token? and you don't mention you are holding that?

So you saved me the hassle of finding my own posts to confirm what I said. That I have been encouraging people to look at it since 500 sats and I was right to be pro PIVX. Why not look back to early 2016??

FYI my PIVX has gone up 8x since I got it so i'm not displeased about the pump. so you got out at the absolute peak and made 6x but now it had gone up 8x?


So now you sold out you decide to become more negative on pivX? seems like a usual human trait.

Unlike yourself I sold the majority of my pivX, the rise took me by shock at the sudden nature and took out some sells I regret now but rather than turn negative I continue to praise PIVX for the things they have done well rather than focus on the things they are yet to complete.

You fail to mention PIVX is not even my top pick and when people have asked on here for top picks it has never been my number 1 choice. I consider bitbay to be even more of an opportunity and have recommended people look into it since it was 60 sats.

Yes pivx marketing is weak they need to compete on all fronts not just on the tech. I don't think they have any marketing team at all. That is a weak area for them as yet.

You're still holding your Dash coins? you don't seem more risk in a 700M coin than is called a scam by the vast majority in all recent polls a 30M coin?

Why would I laugh at you for making 8x or 6x off a coin. I would congratulate you on taking a good profit.

I see one glaring error in your post along with the fact it is selective and mostly taken from the actual pivX thread. Then quoted as hyping on the main board.

1. you don't seem to mention that dash is 10x more guilty of out right spamming and nonsense like dash will replace fiat, the USD and every other nonsense claim they spout? why ignore their actually hyping rather than my suggestions to investigate pivx?

2. you dont' seem to have sold your dash tokens you bought at 100 bucks. When those are worth way less - then I would consider laughing at you but i will not.

come on you're a dash shill and are worried about pivX?

I have always said that it will only take one  good fair clone of dash for people to get behind at it will gradually over time win against dash because unlike yourself some people will not buy into proven scam coins.


Let me now hear you confirm dashers spam magnitude more and tell lies and excuses about their past. Go research that. I won't even ask you to scout their own thread just focus on the main board. I won't even post all the proof i usually do that it is a scam and ask you to comment on that.

When people are selective about their criticism whilst ignoring far worse behavior then I know they are shilling whilst pretending to be neutral.

Let's wait and see give it a few months. If pivx pulls off what they claim then we'll see who performs best. Dash at 700M now and pivX at 30M.

You can't try and spin that suggesting investigation into a 500 sat coin that is now at 60000 sats is hyping. What I said on the main board was almost like an understatement.

Let me hear you tell me now your opinion on the instamining, slashing of the minting of dash. I am interested to hear your stance on that. Rather than crying about someone who suggested you look into for yourself a coin that went from 500 sats to 6200k in your case apparently.

Also your claims of exit at 62k?? really what time did you exit and what exchange because I again DO NOT BELIEVE YOU unless you had like less than 1000 pivX. Always I hear the same old story...... I got out at EXACTLY the top price. Of course you did i mean it seems very probable that you sold at exactly the top doesn't it. The good liars always pick an exit not exactly at the very peak to seem more believable.

I suspect you're a dash shill either that or you've been done up like a kipper.

Enough of your nonsense, talk to me about your investment in a known scam and your reasoning on holding on to your 25x more expensive scam tokens whilst apparently dumping pivx at the absolute tip of the peak, because it has not completed it's road map already

Compare the btc hype machine of dash and pivx over and extended period and tell me which has been hyped more. I await your reply.

You level criticism at one token, let's see your opinion on a 25 x more expensive proven scam token that is 25x or greater more guilty of hyping and spamming this board for years. Yes you still apparently cling to that.

Truth = this

kipper invested more in dash and is down on that investment now so he can not exit. He feels pivX is extracting this capital from dash and wants to focus on negatives of piv whilst ignoring the huge negatives of a 25x more expensive token.

I hope polo does list pivX and that it goes way higher. Will that happen. Who can say. Let's give it a few months and see.

PIVX looks like one of the better designed coins on paper and I was hoping to jump in on it when it was just under 5c.

However, being a developer for more than 15 years, my instincts drove me to learn a little more about the core team writing the software. GitHub produces a nice activity chart for a developer and their contributions. Apart from the few commits on GitHub over the past 6 months, there's not much activity under these devs.

The devs also don't use their real identities unlike what I've observed in other core teams. This is perfectly understandable if they had day jobs and contribution here could be seen as a conflict of interest. But it does validate the point that perhaps there aren't any full-time devs working on this project (broken treasury?), nor is it possible to ascertain their skills and their ability to deliver what's on paper.

I've been trying to get a closer a look at the developers workflow, their kanban board, to get an understanding of how well they're organized and coordinate their work, what they're working on right now, what's done and in testing, the QA process, etc. For a community that claims to be the most open and transparent, this information is locked away. I tried pinging various folks in the team over the past 3 days and have had no luck. Some team members responded saying they aren't sure how and where the core devs are organizing their work. I've seen a number of software projects fail or end up riddle with bugs and poor quality because of the skills of the people working on them. I'm not saying this is the case here yet, but it's becoming a concern. I wish they were a little more transparent on their actual blockchain developers.

So yeah, at a market-cap of $30M this looks way overpriced. They seem to very well organized with their marketing and community building though.

it look like the dump is coming, this coins was pumped because of dash pump they share both the same specs, pivx is a dash clone, but dash is now dumped, which mean that this will be dumped, i think you did the right move by going out now

I hadn't sold at the time of the post, i did just after. I didnt exactly turn fully negative on PIVX, I said I liked the idea, and I hoped they would achieve what they set out to do. I also said once their treasury is fixed I would look at buying some more (though now I have sold, that should read "buy some again")


I certainly would mention it if I saw a thread claiming Dash got to $100 without any BCT hype. Qwizzie is hyping it non-stop

During the Dash spike every second thread in the altcoin section had Dash in the title. Dont worry, i saw.


I brought my Dash tokens at $25 each, 4 for $100. Chances are they will be gone soon, but yes, I do still have them.

If I am an anything shill, I am a Monero shill. You will note from my purchase post I have quite a lot more Monero than Dash.

I just brought a heap (heap for me, over 50% of my total crypto holdings) of Decred, so get ready for me to shill that now :)

I currently hold roughly 120 decred, 4 dash and 40 Monero.

I think soon my 4 Dash will go into Decred, so you wont be able to laugh at me about that unless the price plummets in the next couple of days while I make up my mind.

Reason for getting rid of Dash is the more I think about it, the more I think telling people you are going to release a coin at a set time then changing the time is un-acceptable.


I really dont think PIVX's area of weakness is marketing.

The 8x was a screw up between USD and AUD. I didnt get out at quite the absolute peak.

I got them at roughly 11c US and sold at roughly 62c US or 1.30 AUD

Also I decided, Dash is $100 near enough, I wanted just over, but you know what, in AUD it is lol.

Its gone.

I have Monero and Decred so get ready for me to shill those :)

PIVX isnt exactly a clone, nearly everything is a "BTC Clone" but we dont call them all clones.

I prefer PIVX fundamentally over Dash due to being able to stake wallets and not requiring a full master node and the see saw.

PIVX also got a fair launch.

As for getting out at the right time, only time will tell that :)

Okay I guess I was wrong about you then.

Your grovelling apology has been noted.


.... waiting for new block to be mined ...


And accepted.



This is off topic, but, what are your thoughts on Decred Cryptohunter?

Will you be laughing at me soon as its value plummets (as it has since I brought it yesterday!) or you think its an ok choice?

ausbob and auskipper?


anyway - yes if your concerns are reasonable then I hope they will answer you. Go post this on their thread and let me see if they answer your concerns.

I don't think they will reveal their id's however perhaps some of your questions could be answered. try it on there and see. I hope they are beavering away testing out zcoin implementation I saw something they posted on their thread that said initial testing or some kind of implementation has passed. If you're a crypto tech expert then sure why will they not give you some explanation or give you at least and indication they are working away even if github is not being updated yet. Go there now and ask. I don't think you should expect the secret sauce if that is what they are cooking but at least you should be able to judge if these people have skill set required to do what they say. Go ahead of course they should answer you to a certain degree. I heard that some devs that have been working on zcoin for a long time have joined the project but i don't have the tech skills to verify if it is true or not. If you have a chat with them and you understand this stuff at a deep level then speaking to them even if briefly you will be able to see if they know what they are talking about. Go to the thread and ask now. I will be interested please PM me your opinion after in case i miss it here.

Ha well it's fine I called you a dash shill but your later comments suggest the opposite. If you're wrong you're wrong.

I'm sorry but I don't have thoughts on decred I have not looked at it. However 2 people i trust the opinions of said it is one of the better dev teams.

I would not laugh at any honest investor who lost money. I have lost many times and it is not fun. I let nearly 1M dollars drop through my fingers after only a few months of finding crypto and starting with only a couple of mining rigs and no capital. To me 1M dollars is a lot of money so i often think about that. Although it was a good lesson learned very early on.

Heading to top 3 below BTC and ETH (NEM and ZCash at 4 and 5), imo

If PIVX why not Bitsend?

 http://imgur.com/a/PzYCt   

I think we all need to take a second to look at Poloniex.

PIVX got to where it is without any major exchange. I am calling out Poloniex because they are the largest US altcoin exchange.

Two months ago Pascal Coin has a market cap of about $80k. Suddenly (without any major news) trading volume picks up and for about two weeks, someone is buying heavy volume without shaking market.

Then like MAGIC, Poloniex lists Pascal Coin, and the market cap goes to $8MM. Does anyone really believe that a third-party was not buying on insider Poloniex knowledge of a listing?

What is it worth now? $1.7MM.

Poloniex is playing a very dirty game.
I cannot wait until they get more heavily regulated, and the SEC/IRS investigates what has been going on, and they get shut down, the class-actioned to hell.

You would think that a major exchange should list any crypto that is top 25 market cap (achieved organically).

I guess Poloniex only wants to list crypto that they can buy through a third-party prior to listing.

...but PIVX has nothing to do with Polo yet.  Makes the growth even more impressive.

Or do you know something we don't...? 

I wonder just how good "one of the better dev teams" they mean, is it top 3? top 20?

Of course it wouldn't have the best dev team, we both know Dash has the best dev team of any crypto.

Anyway, thanks for the reply.

I agree but i would say the same about any others.. they are all into shit when no one is looking.

PIVX is Proof of Stake Master Nodes and blockchain, which makes it totally different.

Top 3 dev teams IMO goes like this:
Bitcoin
Ethereum
Decred


The PIVX dev team has a lot to prove, and I don't get why this copy and paste coin (as far as Dash tech is concerned) or vaporware (as far as Zerocoin tech is concerned) is getting pumped higher than coins that have copied Dash with a fair distribution before (too many to list), have zerocoin technology implemented (like Zcoin), or Zcash technology (like Zcash or Zclassic). Actually, I get why... someone(s) pumping it. You've seen the newbie account hype machine on the forums lately, and obviously someone has been buying it up on the markets. It is no coincidence. I will sit on the sidelines and wait for the dump. Maybe, just maybe... after the dump, if they show progress in development, then it could turn into a decent coin that I will buy, but until then it is a highly orchestrated pump and dump.

Ethereum should have a good team considering how much money Intel and Microsoft and co threw at them :)

I'm glad Decred is your number 3 though. Hopefully they pull through with something really good, and can pull of the required marketing to compete with the other marketing machines out there.

Still looking at this ...can anyone point me to how masternodes work and/or how one goes about getting to run one?

thanks ..I think I'm caught up on the rest of the coin info

later

brad

do you have a reference for this crazy claim or is this one of the many hype comments in the ethereum pump campaing.

the only time the names of Microsoft and Ethereum are heard together is on their Azure platform and for that you can add literary anything. if you don't believe me go check how many altcoins are saying Microsoft supports us because they have something on Azure ;D

Current rise is just powerful marketing effect as I see very soon this pump will be over. PIVX will go back to its real place so better stay away when any train left the station and don't get loaded by shit bags.

You need exactly 10,000 coins and you can learn how to set it up on their website and wiki site. I don't know how to do it and I don't have the coins required anyway so I can't say more.

Well not a big enough whale to pay 8532.00 usd to get a masternode anyway lol :)

(I as a minnow aspire to 'whaledom', alas....seems not to be....I could make my own coin and be a legend in my own mind however) :)

I wouldnt hype Ethereum I dont have it and I dont like it.

I just read the title of a news article a few days ago:

http://fortune.com/2017/02/28/ethereum-jpmorgan-microsoft-alliance/

Now I have read it properly not just saw the title and made assumptions I realize the money hasnt gone to the dev team.

I still think the news article will be helping Ethereum though.

choochoo!

Why stop at the moon when you can go to Uranus?  :D

This makes perfect sense! I was wondering why the price was being held back with sell walls. If some whale knows it will be going on Poloniex soon they can buy this coin on Bittrex while holding the price back from spiking. This allows them to continue buying while still paying a low price!

It won't be any surprise to me when this goes on Poloniex and then the price skyrockets making the whale who bought a lot of PIVX on Bittrex a very rich person.

Artificial suppression before Polo gets in on PIVX?  Very interesting...

I notice there has been speculation whether pivx is a p&d coin and if they have devs working full time or part time, but let me say this as a matter of fact.

Seval of the PIVX team also work on another project, Fermat IOP. (Markus, Sarah, and Fuzzbawls). I am a supporter of Fermat (even run the MS state chapter, but that's another story) Anyways, I was introduce to PIVX back when it was around 3000 sats by Markus, who suggested I get into it. It has been a great buy. The media hype and boost through social networks has been amazing. Do I think they have any full time devs working and not part time? Well, the github speaks for its self. I think PIVX has potential, however I feel it's reasoning is simply because it's trying to cash in on the hype Dash has brought. I'm not in long term, but I won't say it's a scam. I have noticed about 10 diff alt accounts spamming Polo's trollbox with requests of PIVX and mentions, which is terrible is a terrible marketing practice. (looks shady as fuck). I would steer away from that type of false advertising, but that's just me. Should you invest? Well, use your own judgement of course.

IMO, you can read for yourself the lengths the PIVX community is going to protect the voice and rights of small money community members and avoid whales controlling it right here:

https://forum.pivx.org/t/how-much-should-a-proof-of-stake-vote-cost-in-a-decentralized-voting-system/214

If you read, see how sustained the volume has been, and see the distribution of masternodes, and somehow STILL think this is a pump and dump... then there's literally nothing to rationally discuss with someone like that, and I'm glad they won't be participating in the community moving forward.

LOL GET EM!

You can also go to their GitHub and see for yourself how much actual coding is being done: https://github.com/PIVX-Project/PIVX

Some of the "developers" listed on their new website haven't posted an update since December or probably even before for some of them.

DO all the bitcoin devs constantly submit code?

How about Evan Duffield the founder of Dash and genius creator? LOL

https://github.com/evan82 (https://github.com/evan82)

After more research, I am sad to announce, stay away from PIVX. Being owned + partner with & hosted by a media advertising company should be enough reasoning. Aside from the fact they focus more on advertising and hype through social media vs working on fixing broken code or implementing new things. (see my previous post) Happy I got out when I did before the bubble burst.

No, but the fact is what is supposed to be their primary source of income, the 10% treasury, has been down for 6 MONTHS with a so called "MINOR" bug.

Go ask Evan how long the Dash treasury would be down for if they found a minor bug in that?

I think Evan may be a bit of a con artist and a little morally challenged, but as far as actual coding goes I have no reason to believe he isn't capable, or at least capable of hiring people who are capable.

Once Pivx fix that I will be a lot less harsh on them.

Congratulations. But the volume was too low.

The bug is that it burns the money instead of awarding it, becuase of something POS related is my guess. They said it will be fixed soom. You guys just love to be harsh on everyone lol. Such is the nature of these forums.

Sadly I must agree. After reverse image searches of the team and watching the Slack channel for several hours, I'm seeing too many inconsistencies (plus the very similar teams between IoP) and annoying grassroots vagueness similar to both PIVX and IoP marketing. It all just makes me uncomfortable. Apparently an Israeli superstar (Gal Gabor) is on the team!! I'm not a FUDer but just some red flags to note.

The website is well-made, the PR very good, and the pitch convincing but I'm now apologizing to the folks who may have took me as a "fanboy" a few evenings ago in the main thread. Glad I got my share mostly as DNET and avoiding a burst too. If the project is legit and it takes off then shame on me, but I'm pulling my risk out of it too.

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Some quotes from Slack tonight when someone asked about next steps and a roadmap from a "Matias"

[1:26] 
As far as I know there isn't a roadmap

[1:26] 
everyday we are joined by 100 new members

[1:26] 
100 new skill sets

[1:26] 
100 new set of values

[1:27] 
Everybody is pushing in the direction they think we should go, and talking with others to form teams to make things happen

[1:27] 
I do not expect we will ever have a detailed linear plan like [removed coin name to prevent any accusations I'm partial to another project]

[1:27] 
we are going to have many ideas

[1:27] 
we are going to try the good ones

[1:28] 
we are going to build a lot of things, create projects to push as forward

[1:28] 
some will survive and will be adopted by a big part of the community

[1:28] 
some will fail, and we will learn from them

[1:29] 
we do not know where are we going, but we have the manifesto to guide us and a really strong common base of shared values




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indeed build a strong community, but the business development plan will be the next thing that moves the project forward after major exchanges

[1:33] 
it needs to start be worked on

[1:34] 
you say no linear plan like [removed], but investors will want to see outlines, being too free floating is a risk

But what if there is more than one whale?

Zcoin is higher if you look at total coins probably

LOL i'm not the only one that did the reverse image search!

It's ok to not have your real face I think, i'm fine with that, but then you should go with something like an animal or something so there can be no accusation of "misleading".

I have a funny feeling Mrs X is a boy personally, not that it really matters.

Just wait till Gal Gadot starts pumping PIVX on the Tonight Show when she's on her Justice League and Wonder Woman press tours  ;)

Interesting conversation you cherry picked from 1 user on the slack.  Here's a detailed roadmap/linear plan forward: https://pivx.org/what-is-pivx/roadmap/

And lol at a developer using a different picture to remain anonymous is a "red flag".  I'll never show my face in any of my videos because I'd get fired from my day job on Wall St.  In my case, my need for anonymity is a credibility boost, not a "red flag".

General Slack now has 2,200 members.

There is now a grid-Slack structure with over 5 separate organization channels for development, marketing, governance, etc.

BTC goes down, PIVX goes up. BTC goes up, PIVX holds. PIVX literally does the opposite of the rest of most of the altcoin market. I think that says a lot about this community. Probably the best in crypto, built from nothing.

PIVX is probably going to be a case study in what you can do in crypto with community driving the bus.

The thing to me that I find interesting is people use this term "DEV" to apply to people work on the project.

We have probably 20-25 people, all volunteer, that are fostering and supporting on a daily basis the slack and community and marketing.  Did the community vote enlist the services of a "professional" branding firm?  Yes, we all did (and you can see all the track history on trello and in the BTCtalks).  After that vote of the community to switch from DNET to PIVX, a lot of people decided to begin the "work" of building up social media, building up a "voice" that represents what we all felt as individuals.  Who we wanted to be, and who we felt PIVX was.

People (on their own) spun up community sites as the main site was going up.  People on their own funded various platforms to help benefit the community grow.  People on their own began to create materials and write.  No-one was paid.  This was a community nucleating event that seemed to just keep growing.  Every day more people seem to create content about and for PIVX.  That is 100% energy driven.

So - to say "the devs are focused on marketing and should be focused on coding...." It feels like people are still trying to apply the "old" methods and perspectives of crypto projects.  If we are "devs" then there are probably 50-60 "DEVS" on community building and social development.  But we're not.  We're just people working collectively.

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As for "DEVS" working on code, there are more coming in every day it seems beginning to jump in.  Remember, this project went from "basically flying under the radar for a year because nobody fluffed or really developed a "brand identity" outside of BTCtalk" to "well, why aren't you doing "x" or "y".....and forget it's basically the same crew working on the code as before....just now it's a top 20 coin.

We'll get there.  Just like we are figuring out how to scale to handle 100,200,300 new people coming into slack everyday, the devs and team there are growing to continue to develop.

It's a wild organic development.

All I can add is that I've been around from nearly day 1 of this project & PIVX is as legit as it comes.
Obviously, with a community of nearly 2300 and nearly 2000 joining just in the past 2-3 weeks, there would be a lot of posts to sift through to find proper & correct data if you check our Slack right now.

But the core of its project remains as legit as it comes.

Come and join the community. Join the dev, marketing, governance channels & teams.
See how open and free it is. Anyone can become someone immediately at PIVX.

No single dev here as snappy above says. Community is the dev, is the marketing, is the support, is PIVX.

slack.pivx.org

Alas not 'mineable' (my addiction) pos coin....can't afford a masternode....thus this newbie is likely out....good luck thou :)

I think and hope that this coin will have a great future!

You dont need a masternode for PIVX only a staked wallet.

The less coins you have though the longer you will need to wait for a payout.

Question re: staking; I've been staking on and off for roughly a week but still haven't earned a single coin.  Granted, i am only staking with ~600PIVX, so I know it will take considerably longer.

What I am wondering is, does staking work based on cumulative hours/days?  Or consecutive?  If I stake for 6 hours and shut down my computer, I'm not likely to get anything, but did that time count toward some hidden figure?

Thanks!

My understanding is that its a random chance, the more coins you have the more chance of being randomly chosen. If you stake you might get a payout in 10 mins or 3 weeks, so its kinda cumulative I guess, you had bad luck for the first 6 hours so maybe your luck will improve later.

That said I have a funny feeling you have to stake for 24 hours or something before you even have the chance.

PIVX Slack would be a better place to ask the question.

Doesn't pivx technically have like a 52m premine.

No, you're thinking of DASH

False, dash had a 2.6m premine

Pivx has a 50m
https://forum.pivx.org/t/starting-50-000-000-in-pivx-how/159

Lol nope, nice try though!

Pivx has a 50m
https://forum.pivx.org/t/starting-50-000-000-in-pivx-how/159

Womp womp

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Whatever happened to Paris Hiltons ex, you know, that embedded C guru, presumably huntable sysadmin Doug s/Smith/Reinhardt?
https://archive.fo/VlSpW

The marketing lists 60K https://pivx.org/what-is-pivx/coin-specs/

43m current supply d:

Also; idk https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pivx/
Its top 20 because of that premine amount; its not the first on there of course but the titles misleading.  (Even if the coins are *burned or nodes that are untouched*

Are you debating the 60k premine figure? And if so, am I gone to find evidence of it on the blockchain that refutes your claim?

It seems you are using a thread post with an unvalidated claim to validate your claim of 50mil.

still over priced for fuck all of a coin

http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/PIVX/index.php

Better?

I think this is the chart you are looking for: http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/PIVX/charts.php?type=supply

i would buy it if it was on poloniex

Maybe soon you'll get that chance  ;)

I wonder if PIVX can reach 10 dollars? it seems to be doing great, but the supply is heavily centralized in the hands of very few, it's way worse than bitcoin and bitcoin has big whales itself... how are they going to solve this? This is a bigger problem in PoS!

Wait what?

PIVX (previously DarkNet) was fairly distributed during a long POW phase. 60,000 coins were pre-mined, but then destroyed (to support masternodes). There is a record of these premined coins being burned.

The only holders of PIVX bought it, and have continued to hold as price has risen. All coins were either bought or mined.

There was no premine, instamine, developer fund, team fund, etc.

It is not fair to say that this crypto is centralized. Anyone who is holding more than 50,000 is at massive risk of big loss if price crashes. Risk/reward.

If anything, a few people were smart and saw the potential early, then had the balls to keep holding as price rocketed up (could have just have easily crashed).

It is NO.11 now, amazing job PIVX team, we should focus on more development now, PIVX can be a killer app, not a dash clone any more, huge market cap. Massive volume on Bittrex, will polo list PIVX?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pivx/comments/644y3v/pivx_says_dash_wont_get_the_masternodess/

What i've read is that the whales can keep up stacking, therefore they can control all masternodes


I need real proof of this coin not being centralized.

I wouldn't care if this was PoW, but it's PoS.

Also, why people say it will never hit Polo?

Waves never hit Polo as well...

Surprised at how this alt coin has achieved this level of notoriety quickly.
It has surpassed dash? Which is weird because it was worth $100+ just two weeks ago and now it is only half of that amount now.
It goes up while other alt coins go down.

Zerocoin implementation is next

Luck is a Part, Risking in Alt coin is the name of the Game. I am holding PIVX for 3 yrs .. just 1000 Nos, I am still dreaming of the clouds .. I wanna be RICH, PIVX is next Gold Rush.

I hope it goes down. If it it's too high and it gets added in Poloniex, people will instantly dump at the second it gets in Poloniex, and it will remain down for a long time until next pump (as usual).

Price needs a correction, then we can talk about getting in. I can't risk my money buying now.

Of course, it can be pumped by whales to 10 or more, who knows.... I dont want to miss out, but, i dont want to lose BTC...

Amen brother ! I agree pivx is life and soul

Yep, i 'm very happy and excited for the future.

Great announcement, great team, and solid opposent to DASH. Maybe name's politic ? :D.

Polo will be for for how weeks? 2-3?

Can wait further developemt from PIVX

You don't seem to mention that dash is 10x more guilty of out right spamming and nonsense like dash will replace fiat, the USD and every other nonsense claim they spout? why ignore their actually hyping rather than my suggestions to investigate pivx? You dont' seem to have sold your dash tokens you bought at 100 bucks. When those are worth way less - then I would consider laughing at you but i will not.
I need real proof of this coin not being centralized.
I wouldn't care if this was PoW, but it's PoS.

check https://chainz.cryptoid.info/pivx/#!rich

Maybe it will give you some ideas about the distribution

 8)

Interestingly enough - Gadot is now being used to promote bitcoin scams online https://www.binaryscamalerts.com/ethereum-code-scam-gal-gadot/

sound interesting and I would grab some PIVX again.
i sold my bag of pivx last year when i bough it at few cents
from start of this thread it was top 20 and now #65 good time to buy?

I think the end has come for most of these Master nodes projects, 2017 was a great year for most of them but Masternodes alone is not enough to drive the price of a coins up, that is why so many new tokens are taking up their places and leaving them behind, for me I don't see this as a top 20 coin

DASH had many forks, but only at PIVX it turned out to become a high-grade product. Pivx positions itself as an anonymous payment system, and the dash is simply a payment system.