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Title: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: yishak on March 23, 2017, 01:39:04 PM
People in Syria and Iraq are dying everyday but people don't care about them but when Americans , Europeans have a terrorist attack then the news will be flooded with only that shit. People's life are the same it shouldn't matter which country citizen they are . Syria and Iraq should be treated like the rest of the world.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: darkseid1199 on March 23, 2017, 03:45:01 PM
The Europeans and Americans are all preoccupied with themselves and care nothing about the plight of people in Syria or Iraq. Their governments even bomb the citizens of these countries but nothing is done about this all in the name of fighting terrorism.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on March 23, 2017, 03:53:52 PM
I agree with the post above 100%, governments claim that they are fighting terrorism and making the world a peaceful place but If we start counting, we will find that the innocent people are much higher then the terrorists.

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder331/500x/58010331.jpg

I cannot expect much from the citizens myself because there is nothing they could do, the maximum is some protesting for a few days then what?


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: sartorpc on March 23, 2017, 03:55:13 PM
Because people and government feel it "closer" and more "dangerous" for them, thats why they care more than iraq or syria.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: Jacce on March 23, 2017, 04:11:26 PM
Iraq and Syria still gets more attention than other places, mainly because it still affects the western world (e.g. immigrants and terrorists). How many cares about the fighting and starvation in South Sudan, for example?

Thing is, people are egoistic at heart. They care mainly about things closer to them, as they have a higher chance of actually affecting them.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: electronicash on March 23, 2017, 04:30:26 PM
because US had put it in the minds of individuals through tv news that countries from africa, iraq and syria and god knows where else are all countries of terrorist.  its the same thing when they murder black people there in omaha. they may even just leave your carcass on the streets.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: bryant.coleman on March 23, 2017, 05:15:45 PM
There is a reason why the media is not highlighting the plight of the people in Iraq and Syria. Many of the media outlets in the Western nations are owned by the rich Arabs from the GCC region. And remember that the civil war in Syria was triggered by the Saudi / Qatari support to the Islamic radicals. The media has tried it's best to hide the role of the GCC nations.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: RJX on March 23, 2017, 06:00:09 PM
People in Syria and Iraq are dying everyday but people don't care about them but when Americans , Europeans have a terrorist attack then the news will be flooded with only that shit. People's life are the same it shouldn't matter which country citizen they are . Syria and Iraq should be treated like the rest of the world.

Where do you take it people don't care? What people?

Lives may be equal but civilisation includes borders. If you're born on the wrong side that's your problem.





Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: ridery99 on March 23, 2017, 06:17:18 PM
Wikipedia:

Ingroups and outgroups (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingroups_and_outgroups)
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In sociology and social psychology, an ingroup is a social group to which a person psychologically identifies as being a member. By contrast, an outgroup is a social group with which an individual does not identify. For example, people may find it psychologically meaningful to view themselves according to their race, culture, gender, age or religion. It has been found that the psychological membership of social groups and categories is associated with a wide variety of phenomena.

The terminology was made popular by Henri Tajfel and colleagues during his work in formulating social identity theory. The significance of ingroup and outgroup categorization was identified using a method called the minimal group paradigm. Tajfel and colleagues found that people can form self-preferencing ingroups within a matter of minutes and that such groups can form even on the basis of seemingly trivial characteristics, such as preferences for certain paintings.
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The psychological categorization of people into ingroup and outgroup members is associated with a variety of phenomena. The following examples have all received a great deal of academic attention.

In-group favoritism[edit]
Main article: In-group favoritism
This refers to the fact that under certain conditions people will prefer and have affinity for one’s ingroup over the outgroup, or anyone viewed as outside the ingroup. This can be expressed in one's evaluation of others, linking, allocation of resources and many other ways.[6]

Outgroup derogation[edit]
Discrimination between ingroups and outgroups is a matter of favoritism towards an ingroup and the absence of equivalent favoritism towards an outgroup.[7] Outgroup derogation is the phenomenon in which an outgroup is perceived as being threatening to the members of an ingroup.[8] This phenomenon often accompanies ingroup favoritism, as it requires one to have an affinity towards their ingroup. Some research suggests that outgroup derogation occurs when an outgroup is perceived as blocking or hindering the goals of an ingroup. It has also been argued that outgroup derogation is a natural consequence of the categorization process.

Here's more (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-group_favoritism)


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: Drowzy on March 23, 2017, 06:26:13 PM
People in Syria and Iraq are dying everyday but people don't care about them but when Americans , Europeans have a terrorist attack then the news will be flooded with only that shit. People's life are the same it shouldn't matter which country citizen they are . Syria and Iraq should be treated like the rest of the world.

People in the middle east (muslims) have been killing each other and killing other cultures as well for centuries. To us westerners these people are barbaric insecure uneducated and unworthy of us caring for them. I wish that these different sects, sunni, shiite, whahabbi and whatever else there is would just die off. Their beliefs have caused millions misery and will continue to do so until these morons stop believing that killing others is what their deity wants.



 


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 24, 2017, 10:11:58 AM
It is wrong to say that the mainstream media and the western nations ignore what is going on in Syria and Iraq. Analyze the news coverage from mainstream media channels such as BBC, CNN.etc and you'll find that a major part of their coverage is dedicated to what is going on in Syria.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: Xester on March 24, 2017, 10:36:49 AM
People in Syria and Iraq are dying everyday but people don't care about them but when Americans , Europeans have a terrorist attack then the news will be flooded with only that shit. People's life are the same it shouldn't matter which country citizen they are . Syria and Iraq should be treated like the rest of the world.

Why did you say that nobody cares for and what are  the facts that serves as your basis. There are aides and support coming from other countries some in the form of prayer and some in goods and aides. But of course the aides cannot support all of the victims and even the government of those countries have troubles distributing the goods due to conflict.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: eagleman on March 24, 2017, 11:06:36 AM
People in Syria and Iraq are dying everyday but people don't care about them but when Americans , Europeans have a terrorist attack then the news will be flooded with only that shit. People's life are the same it shouldn't matter which country citizen they are . Syria and Iraq should be treated like the rest of the world.
Because people are scared to enter the Syria and Iraq's territories. Do you even think that medias can easily cover those news about people dying their everywhere if they are at risk?


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: gabmen on March 24, 2017, 11:32:29 AM
People in Syria and Iraq are dying everyday but people don't care about them but when Americans , Europeans have a terrorist attack then the news will be flooded with only that shit. People's life are the same it shouldn't matter which country citizen they are . Syria and Iraq should be treated like the rest of the world.

You know what, i've had that observation as well. People tend to be too one sided when it comes to people from the middle east, Mainstream media, mostly western media, tend to downplay what's happening with those countries and highlight issues from rich western and european countries as well. I remember during the paris attack, i mean if you compare the the scale of people dying to that of syria, i think the latter should warrant more sympathy that it got considering that it's even an ongoing issue up to now


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: dark_pride on March 24, 2017, 11:58:12 AM
Now most people live only for their own pleasure, cheat and do only what is beneficial to them. Everyone is just talking about some attempts to stop this, but no one is doing anything.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: omorfi on March 24, 2017, 02:35:32 PM
Because iraq and syria are muslim countries


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: J Gambler on March 24, 2017, 02:43:26 PM
Iraq known as the most sarcastic country where they're all kind of devil people iraq also have inocent people who are died because of the activies of isis and terorrist goverment created terrorist too to make money they are thinking about them selves and not thinking about the live of other people.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: cabron on March 24, 2017, 02:53:34 PM
Iraqis and syrians don't also care if someone is murdered in some countries, do they?
They don't even care if they rape some women (nanny) in their neighborhood and they even rape each other there even the 10 year old boys.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: Idrisu on March 24, 2017, 03:03:13 PM
People in Syria and Iraq are dying everyday but people don't care about them but when Americans , Europeans have a terrorist attack then the news will be flooded with only that shit. People's life are the same it shouldn't matter which country citizen they are . Syria and Iraq should be treated like the rest of the world.
This is a sign that the lord Jesus Christ said shall come at the end! People don't value life again when from the beginning he created them male and female. Syria people even part of Africa like Nigeria people are being slaughter in their homes and nobody even the government do not care. But when it happened in countries like America and uk the whole world will be concerned. God is watching us.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: Podgor on March 24, 2017, 04:21:47 PM
It's going to get better in the middle east now since it was all for the power and controll over middle east by Russia and US mostly.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: yishak on March 24, 2017, 04:28:19 PM
because US had put it in the minds of individuals through tv news that countries from africa, iraq and syria and god knows where else are all countries of terrorist.  its the same thing when they murder black people there in omaha. they may even just leave your carcass on the streets.

I agree with you. The people of us are conditioned by the media.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: Daniel91 on March 24, 2017, 05:18:52 PM
It's natural that people are usually more concerned about events happened in their countries and cities.
It's hard to empathize with people who live in distant lands and about which we don't know much.
In fact, we heard so much tragic news and reports from Iraq and Syria that it's difficult to be more shocked or worried about it.
Journalists also have a great role in it.
They should share personal stories and testimonies from Iraq and Syria, in order to help average people to understand situation there.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: NyeFee on March 24, 2017, 05:30:48 PM
It's going to get better in the middle east now since it was all for the power and controll over middle east by Russia and US mostly.
I do not even know how to react to your words about what will be better in the Middle East. And this is after the cities were destroyed and many people were killed? How everything will get better, it's not clear. Russia and the USA are at war not only for influence, but also for energy resources.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: Podgor on March 24, 2017, 05:47:17 PM
It's going to get better in the middle east now since it was all for the power and controll over middle east by Russia and US mostly.
I do not even know how to react to your words about what will be better in the Middle East. And this is after the cities were destroyed and many people were killed? How everything will get better, it's not clear. Russia and the USA are at war not only for influence, but also for energy resources.

Putin supports Asad, CIA under Democtatic influence created and was funding ISIS for a long time (that's a fact).
Now there's no war industry infuence on Trump and he wants to fight ISIS, not support them like previous govermnent did.

So yes, it will get better.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: LTU_btc on March 24, 2017, 11:56:47 PM
There are few reasons why:
People care more about whats happening in their countries and around it. Syria and Iraq looks far away for mostly Europeans and Americans and they don't care much about it.
Also, bad news from these countries already become routine for many people and it doesn't makes strong reaction.
And news media have big influence. If something like terrorist attack happens in Europe - TV channels talks whole week about it, internet is full of clickbait articles with all important and not details about attack. If something similar happens let's say in Iraq -  we only can see few articles about it and few minutes length report on TV.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: Mometaskers on March 25, 2017, 02:54:43 AM
Humans are not suited to caring for large numbers of people. Some may think that the Dunbar number is an oversimplification but I still think there's some sense to it. Your bitcoin may buy a family in Africa a small business but you'd probably more likely to spend it on yourself. That don't automatically make humans callous, we just have priorities. We may see a terror attack or a bombing abroad and well bad for the victims but life ensures we have more issues at hand to care about them for a long time.

And of course media. Even without manipulation, it's only natural that Western news outlets would focus on violence happening in Western nations. Hence the marathon after terror attacks. Do you think outlets in the Middle East would dedicate as much air time to an attack in Paris or London? I don't think so. But if it's an attack on say, Dubai, Riyadh or Cairo, they might.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: Gronthaing on March 25, 2017, 04:41:31 AM
^ agreed but i think it's more than that. It's not only because of distance or not being as personal to people. I think it has to do with the illusion that people in the west have that they are apart from the rest of the world. Especially in america. That bad things happen somewhere else in the world. And that maybe we can or can't do something about it but who cares. Might be wrong but i don't think people in the rest of the world are so much like this.

People in the middle east (muslims) have been killing each other and killing other cultures as well for centuries. To us westerners these people are barbaric insecure uneducated and unworthy of us caring for them. I wish that these different sects, sunni, shiite, whahabbi and whatever else there is would just die off. Their beliefs have caused millions misery and will continue to do so until these morons stop believing that killing others is what their deity wants.

Yes they are barbaric and unworthy because they don't reach the level of us westerners. Killing each other for centuries? Noobs. Us westerners have killed, enslaved tortured, raped and pillaged all around the world for centuries. In some places we displaced and sometimes killed entire populations to take their land and resources. And some of it continues to this day in different forms. Doesn't excuse the problems with muslims and their culture. But don't think the west is that much superior. In fact why are we still selling billions in weapons and helping saudi arabia spread wahhabism around the world for example?

This is a sign that the lord Jesus Christ said shall come at the end! People don't value life again when from the beginning he created them male and female. Syria people even part of Africa like Nigeria people are being slaughter in their homes and nobody even the government do not care. But when it happened in countries like America and uk the whole world will be concerned. God is watching us.

Looks to me that more people care now than in the past. Part of it is probably more people having access to news. And better news sources. But not only.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 25, 2017, 04:56:26 AM
It's going to get better in the middle east now since it was all for the power and controll over middle east by Russia and US mostly.

Seems like you are unaware of what is happening in the Middle East. The United States and Russia are playing only a supporting role in the conflict. The main battle is between Iran and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.


Title: Re: Why people care less about iraq and syria?
Post by: moonya on March 25, 2017, 05:00:06 AM
There are few reasons why:
People care more about whats happening in their countries and around it. Syria and Iraq looks far away for mostly Europeans and Americans and they don't care much about it.
Also, bad news from these countries already become routine for many people and it doesn't makes strong reaction.
And news media have big influence. If something like terrorist attack happens in Europe - TV channels talks whole week about it, internet is full of clickbait articles with all important and not details about attack. If something similar happens let's say in Iraq -  we only can see few articles about it and few minutes length report on TV.
And all this is because the authorities without excessive aggression are trying in Europe to create a quiet life and a democratic society, unlike all countries in the eastern region, where neither democracy nor humility is observed. Therefore, all have become accustomed to violence in the Middle East.