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Economy => Collectibles => Topic started by: TheCryptoMint on March 24, 2017, 11:26:18 AM



Title: Phoenix Coin
Post by: TheCryptoMint on March 24, 2017, 11:26:18 AM
Here is a rough sketch of a Phoenix coin:

https://i.imgur.com/Gm55nxr.png

I have chosen a few of my best so would like to know your opinions before I put some serious time into it.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: wheelz1200 on March 24, 2017, 11:50:45 AM
I like the idea behind the phoenix.  Are these going to be loaded or unloaded?


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: TheCryptoMint on March 24, 2017, 12:09:40 PM
I like the idea behind the phoenix.  Are these going to be loaded or unloaded?

Thanks they will be loaded if have a bitcoin address on. Unloaded if the have the word 'SAMPLE' in the window in the hologram.

Not funded = no private keys basically.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: AT101ET on March 24, 2017, 12:11:19 PM
Definitely a nice design.
A number of points to consider though.
If you're going for funded coins, then lower denominations may be more popular.
Having been said, given recent events, it may be more advisable to go with DIY coins unless you're prepared to somehow provide full transparency of your operations.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: wheelz1200 on March 24, 2017, 12:19:58 PM
Definitely a nice design.
A number of points to consider though.
If you're going for funded coins, then lower denominations may be more popular.
Having been said, given recent events, it may be more advisable to go with DIY coins unless you're prepared to somehow provide full transparency of your operations.


What he said.  Just my own opinion a loaded 1btc coin right now might be a hard sell even with a full description of your operation which is also a tough sell now too.  Good luck either way


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: N@p$t3r on March 24, 2017, 12:25:28 PM
Can somebody here please tell me how to determine whether a coin is loaded or not? Is there going to be an engraved address or QR in the coin?


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: TheCryptoMint on March 24, 2017, 12:52:38 PM

Can somebody here please tell me how to determine whether a coin is loaded or not? Is there going to be an engraved address or QR in the coin?
It will have the first 8 digits of the address on so you can verify it that way.

Definitely a nice design.
A number of points to consider though.
If you're going for funded coins, then lower denominations may be more popular.
Having been said, given recent events, it may be more advisable to go with DIY coins unless you're prepared to somehow provide full transparency of your operations.


What he said.  Just my own opinion a loaded 1btc coin right now might be a hard sell even with a full description of your operation which is also a tough sell now too.  Good luck either way

Sure well these will be 5 troy OZ. There will be some smaller ones 0.1 BTC. Do you  think that is high still?


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: AT101ET on March 24, 2017, 01:00:46 PM

Can somebody here please tell me how to determine whether a coin is loaded or not? Is there going to be an engraved address or QR in the coin?
It will have the first 8 digits of the address on so you can verify it that way.

Definitely a nice design.
A number of points to consider though.
If you're going for funded coins, then lower denominations may be more popular.
Having been said, given recent events, it may be more advisable to go with DIY coins unless you're prepared to somehow provide full transparency of your operations.


What he said.  Just my own opinion a loaded 1btc coin right now might be a hard sell even with a full description of your operation which is also a tough sell now too.  Good luck either way

Sure well these will be 5 troy OZ. There will be some smaller ones 0.1 BTC. Do you  think that is high still?

0.1BTC is a good denomination in my mind. Not too much and not too little.
Alternative you could leave the coin without any denomination and let users choose to fund it with as much as they please although having a uniform denomination would be nice.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: Hhampuz on March 24, 2017, 01:45:50 PM
I'd strongly advise you to make them unloaded, you can still engrave the firstbits or whatever and give them a denomination.

Reason for this is that a lot of members of the community have seen the harsh reality of loaded coins recently. We are now down to a handful of manufacturers that can be trusted (and who knows, more scandals might occur.)

So that would be my recommendation, I think you'd find it easier to deal with everything going that route too.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: wheelz1200 on March 24, 2017, 02:54:45 PM

Can somebody here please tell me how to determine whether a coin is loaded or not? Is there going to be an engraved address or QR in the coin?
It will have the first 8 digits of the address on so you can verify it that way.

Definitely a nice design.
A number of points to consider though.
If you're going for funded coins, then lower denominations may be more popular.
Having been said, given recent events, it may be more advisable to go with DIY coins unless you're prepared to somehow provide full transparency of your operations.


What he said.  Just my own opinion a loaded 1btc coin right now might be a hard sell even with a full description of your operation which is also a tough sell now too.  Good luck either way

Sure well these will be 5 troy OZ. There will be some smaller ones 0.1 BTC. Do you  think that is high still?

Is there a block explorer that still checks for the first bits?


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: Hhampuz on March 24, 2017, 02:56:01 PM

Can somebody here please tell me how to determine whether a coin is loaded or not? Is there going to be an engraved address or QR in the coin?
It will have the first 8 digits of the address on so you can verify it that way.

Definitely a nice design.
A number of points to consider though.
If you're going for funded coins, then lower denominations may be more popular.
Having been said, given recent events, it may be more advisable to go with DIY coins unless you're prepared to somehow provide full transparency of your operations.


What he said.  Just my own opinion a loaded 1btc coin right now might be a hard sell even with a full description of your operation which is also a tough sell now too.  Good luck either way

Sure well these will be 5 troy OZ. There will be some smaller ones 0.1 BTC. Do you  think that is high still?

Is there a block explorer that still checks for the first bits?

Blockr.io works afaik


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: TheCryptoMint on March 24, 2017, 03:24:40 PM
I'd strongly advise you to make them unloaded, you can still engrave the firstbits or whatever and give them a denomination.

Reason for this is that a lot of members of the community have seen the harsh reality of loaded coins recently. We are now down to a handful of manufacturers that can be trusted (and who knows, more scandals might occur.)

So that would be my recommendation, I think you'd find it easier to deal with everything going that route too.

Thanks for your opinion. I will offer unfunded like I say but they will not have a private key in. Are the bad collectors mainly scammers or they were hacked? I dont really see how it can happen unless they scammed people.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: wheelz1200 on March 24, 2017, 04:11:42 PM
I'd strongly advise you to make them unloaded, you can still engrave the firstbits or whatever and give them a denomination.

Reason for this is that a lot of members of the community have seen the harsh reality of loaded coins recently. We are now down to a handful of manufacturers that can be trusted (and who knows, more scandals might occur.)

So that would be my recommendation, I think you'd find it easier to deal with everything going that route too.

Thanks for your opinion. I will offer unfunded like I say but they will not have a private key in. Are the bad collectors mainly scammers or they were hacked? I dont really see how it can happen unless they scammed people.


If there isnt going to be a key i would say dont put a holo over it.  DIY coins allow for a buyer to make his/her own keys if they so please to.  As far as the coins, its a myriad of things.  Expecting someone to place trust in your pricess/team with a full btc right now is sketchy at best.  Nothing to do with you personally, just the current scene unfortunatelly


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: coin@coin on March 24, 2017, 08:32:57 PM
I tend to agree with the general mood here, unfunded may sell more, not sure if you have done previous coin releases either so that will influence people's opinion too.

And also 1 BTC right now is a lot of dosh, add 5Oz of silver? Are they going to be made of Silver or another metal?


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: defcon23 on March 24, 2017, 08:50:34 PM
Waw.. What a great idea you got there mate.. Congratulations!  8)
I would really have a coin with a nice phoenix like this one...  Cool !


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: TheCryptoMint on March 24, 2017, 11:44:15 PM
I tend to agree with the general mood here, unfunded may sell more, not sure if you have done previous coin releases either so that will influence people's opinion too.

And also 1 BTC right now is a lot of dosh, add 5Oz of silver? Are they going to be made of Silver or another metal?


They will be Silver. Nothing to stop me selling 1 mBit. ITs still better they are funded or you might as well buy normal silver rounds if they were not.

What are your preferred  amounts for a 5 TROY OZ: 0.01, 0.01, 0.1, 1 I am now thinking 0.1

Also what about 1 TROY OZ : 0.0001, 0.001, 0.01 I think 0.01

One thing I will not do is sell a unfunded coin with a private key in and I dont like the idea of DIY too because someone could use your coin to scam someone else. So if not funded they will come with words SAMPLE on like I have done before.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: krakinx on March 24, 2017, 11:48:30 PM
i mean for  a troy oz , i would prefer a  1 bitcoin denomination .

and for  a 1 OZ coin ,  0.1 btc


congrats for this design OP , i really love it.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: acidv on March 25, 2017, 09:33:03 AM
If you relrase these, i would take one for sure. A phoenix..... Thats a dream coin  OP
I would also prefer a funded one.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on March 25, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
What's with these newbie accounts in your topics OP?

krakinx (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=973973)- Date Registered:   March 24, 2017, 03:52:16 PM. Made 2 posts, both in your 2 topics.
acidv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=973989) - Date Registered:   March 24, 2017, 04:08:58 PM. Made 2 posts, both in your 2 topics.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: Lauda on March 25, 2017, 09:54:24 AM
What's with these newbie accounts in your topics OP?

krakinx (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=973973)- Date Registered:   March 24, 2017, 03:52:16 PM. Made 2 posts, both in your 2 topics.
acidv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=973989) - Date Registered:   March 24, 2017, 04:08:58 PM. Made 2 posts, both in your 2 topics.
What do my little kitty eyes see, OP shilling his own coins? ::) Does he/she/it really think we can be fooled so easily?

https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-01-2015/_sbYKw.gif

Well, I got some bad news for him/her/it. I expect these coins to be overpriced, hence the fake *desire/demand* shilling. This is utterly disgusting and pathetic, just like CryptoImperator and Denarium.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: TheCryptoMint on March 25, 2017, 03:20:25 PM
OK I guess one is still for sale then. I am not really sure why I would do that. They are not over priced they are runs of 5. If it was me then I just reserved one of my own coins so its not really that much of a good idea. That blatantly someone trying to make me look bad. I can understand creating an account to say good things but to reserve coins I cold potentially sell. Not quite. They are not my accounts so nice try.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: hermaner on March 25, 2017, 04:11:19 PM
I want one coin . can i reserve 1 please ?


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: Lauda on March 25, 2017, 04:26:04 PM
They are not over priced they are runs of 5.
Where is the price then?

That blatantly someone trying to make me look bad. ... They are not my accounts so nice try.
There are two cases:
1) You are doing this to create false demand.
2) Someone else is doing it to make it seem like 1) is true, i.e. to make you look bad.

In either case, the following statement fits:
This is utterly disgusting and pathetic, just like CryptoImperator and Denarium.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: TheCryptoMint on March 25, 2017, 07:08:11 PM
I want one coin . can i reserve 1 please ?

Hi there it looks like you are actually me making a alt account to pump and dump some coins. Just like they do on yobit troll box. Well we both know this is a waste of time.

I cant believe some one has wasted their time to do this. Its actually flattering someone thinks of me so much to do this.

Lauda the price has not been discussed as yet I was confusing it with my other thread for the run of 5. They are 250 usd each. For the price of this please give me chance I have only started the design.






Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: FFrankie on March 25, 2017, 08:30:04 PM
So is your cost for these around $100 a piece? If the dyes are $400 and the rounds are 18. The numbers make sense


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: defcon23 on March 25, 2017, 08:36:43 PM
So is your cost for these around $100 a piece? If the dyes are $400 and the rounds are 18. The numbers make sense


what is "dyes" lol  ;D      did you mean dies ?  or maybe Mocks ?  hu hu hu  .... not sure to understand you dude .  ::)


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: bitenvy on March 27, 2017, 01:03:27 AM
Shouldn't your coin be called "Phoenix from the ashes"? 


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: Hhampuz on March 27, 2017, 03:47:58 AM
It all does seem a bit odd.. I do not like people shilling.


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: buckrogers on March 27, 2017, 03:59:26 AM
i mean for  a troy oz , i would prefer a  1 bitcoin denomination .

and for  a 1 OZ coin ,  0.1 btc


congrats for this design OP , i really love it.

umm not sure why this account is shilling, but a troy oz and 1 OZ are pretty much the same thing (assuming you are selling real silver) :)


--plus the tone of all the shill accounts sound very similar to the language and tone of "SOME" other account.

thanks!


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on March 27, 2017, 04:49:33 AM
Could you tell us a little more about the artwork? Who designed the coin and is the artwork original?


Title: Re: Phoenix Coin
Post by: coin@coin on March 27, 2017, 02:41:22 PM
Got my popcorn ready...  :)