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Hi all, okay as the title states i have $25,000 to invest in cryptocurrency, and i have chosen anon tech combined with a long term investment strategy.

I have currently selected the following 3 options - possibly thinking of diversifying my stock balance between all, need your thoughts. I have included risk and also safe investments.

ZETH (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.0)
a new project combining zcash zk-snkark tech with the ethereum smart platform.


Pro:
Best of both worlds (eth+zcash)
Small market cap on release
Bittrex addition on release
Highest potential gainer due to low market cap

Cons:
Incomplete project
Only one developer
Unknown skills of developer

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ZClassic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1671982.0)
Zclassic is a fork of Zcash 1.0.1 with minimal changes except for 2 major things.

1. 20% Founders Reward is removed.
2. Slow start is removed (blocks start at 12.5 ZCL rewards per block).



Pro:
Superior tech same as zcash
No founders fund
Low market cap in comparison to Zcash
Holders receive zencash distribution on april 29th (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1819977.0)

Cons:
Unknown how much devs hold
Unknown if devs are in it for the money or not
Unknown how much coding experience devs have

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ZCASH (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1626185.0)
Zcash uses a zero-knowledge proof construction called a zk-SNARK



Pro:
Milionaire investors
Superior tech
Gaurenteed to run for many years

Cons:
Developers gain a huge percentage ~20%
Market cap already extremely high due to distribution model




With these three i plan to hold for over 5 years, i believe i have selected a balance of risky & also secure investments.




What cryptocurrencies would you invest $25,000 on and why?

none of the above because they're all centralized, I'd go with bitcoin because it is truly decentralized.

You need to understand one thing; projects that aim to become currency/payment systems can't succeed. Bitcoin is the obvious example, hasn't reached mainstream adoption after 8 years. So, these projects aiming to become money can only have moderate success. Bitcoin has giant mcap because it was first and a cult came with it. But no other project will be that lucky. So they have to innovate to differentiate themselves from the crowd.

That being said, i think the most obvious choice is ethereum. If you're  a short term trader, it might be a good ideea to buy and cash out after raiden is released, in 1-2 weeks. Or after metropolis is released ( it will implement zk-snarks, tech that makes zcash anonymous). The long term bet would be next year after POS/casper which brings mass scaling on chain.

Or, you can invest in these low cap projects but they're a risky bet. Their value can aswell stagnate for 2 years..

PivX  but do your own research.

Bitbay is considering adding anon tech but that is not before the pegging so will be a while.

I have been interested in cloak coin although i have only got a tiny amount. I was asking for any tech appraisal of their method of anon but it was closed source. I believe they are open sourcing it now so if it offer something it could also be worth looking at.

Research them all and make up your own minds. I am suggesting you look at them only.

Of course if ethereum is going pos anon that will be very interesting.

look at combained alcoin cryptocurrency cap :

http://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#btc-percentage

and on charts you will see that you are on best way today to get REALLY RECT IMO if you plan to join any alt currency.
Sorry mate i think that you have missed most boats now and you will have to wait for correction or lose money.
but if you really insist on losing money look:
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/#charts
for me best chart in those curencies go for monero at 0.014 and pray :) to not dump.

you are really badass trying joining party now.
BTC in 2013 had pump at 15 dec
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/peercoin/#charts
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/
So it took about 3 weeks to pump alts and bum bear alt market.
be carefull man.

Yeah I would wait for XMR to bottom, then buy that. Buy low, sell high. And don't buy xerox copies of shit, because there is no limit to the supply xerox copies.

I'd be very careful betting on those copycat anon coins. You've throwing dice.

For now, I'd park $ in ETH which is what I did. Waiting to see if BTC will resume its bull market or not.

Any cryptocurrency is risky you are really pushing the risk envelope with your altcoin choices. How did your research miss Monero?

Really?? I thought you hated ETH (and all things ETHY) and went for ETC

Money doesn't stink ;)

At what price did you buy ETh, if you don't mind me asking?

ZCash having millionaire investors combined with the fact ZCash is made by a company of closed group developers who are too important to even make their own ANN thread here should scream special interest coin at you

We do not know how much ZCL devs are holding but that can be the case with any coin. The ZCL devs were both put off by the 20% ounders feee pseudo instamine plus the tipping point to make ZCL was seeing a terrible centralization in mining pools for ZEC. ZCL was born as a result of ZEC being too centralized. The ZCL devs were good enough at coding to make a windows wallet aster than the well paid ZEC devs of esteemed cryptographers and computer science academics. They are holding the fort down don't worry

He hates it for different reasons, as i've understood from his posts:

1. He doesn't believe the endgame update of ethereum will work, aka casper which will be implemented next year
2. Second reason, i think it's because it may rival his ongoing project.

But one would be a fool to not see eth's development potential, and most importantly and the reason we are all here, the profit potential. He seems to be pragmatic.

None of the three you chose.

If you want Anon I am reasonably confident your best bet at the moment is Monero (XMR)

PIVX's zerocoin anon is not yet implemented

Decred is planning privacy features, but again, not yet implemented but I do like Decred overall. According to the roadmap they will be looking at privacy from mid year this year however cryptocurrency road maps and timelines tend to be somewhat "flexible" if you know what I mean.

Monero is a better coin than BTC in my opinion but I wouldn't be surprised if Bitcoin forked and the price shot up again. Actually I think that's what will end up happening. Keep holding Bitcoin and Ether!

Also, people have way too much invested into Bitcoin, I don't think they'd let some other altcoin replace it because of scaling issues.

very interesting, it will probably continue well, the merger between zcash + ethereum. maybe I will follow it, if you tell about yourself, the more information a reasonable and clear may be a lot to follow. some people have been giving good advice, and this is a good start for your coin, just as surely as you also develop ethereum.

i am afraid i choose none of your choices here. they are all bad in my opinion. and for a big investment like $25000 i would only invest in bitcoin and if anonymity is what you want then use a mixer to reach that. the safest investment specially if it is for long term is going to be bitcoin for the foreseeable future.

and among the altcoins specially with "anon feature" the best thing is Monero. it has been around for long enough, it has real anonymity and not just playing around. and the price is pretty solid although it is a little over the usual price.

Go with Komodo, based on zCash but with a lot more features, too many to outline here, do your own research.

All the big anons have had a pump or two, but KMD is sitting way down with MK at 11-13M USD, so much room for growth, and best in class anon tech.

If I was you I'd go 50% with XMR for safety, and 50% KMD for growth potential.

Don't...

Don't ask for investment-advice on these forums.... Everybody will just promote their own bagz of shitcoins...

Do your research, do it long and hard, visit reddit pages, visit forums, check the history of coins, but first of all, make up your mind of what a cryptocurrency is supposed to be, make up your mind about what money is supposed to be, then, and only then you can decide which crypto's you want to buy...

Best of luck,

StealthCoin
It's not complete anon yet but will soon. Best option of 10x at this point but then I'm bias because I have some XST.

, Its hilarious that anyone takes this kind of thread seriously, particularly from a newbie account. Its clearly meant to promote a certain coin. So we are to believe they are going to invest 25K and is unsure what to go for.


Then posts IN THE SAME day that he is holding one of the coins and shouting its praises....Sorry i'm too old and cynical for this shit.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1802128.msg18377240#msg18377240

Take a look at PIVX.

haha... yea over year chart was FLAT and noone has given it a fuck to it and now becouse of pump of DASH all buy in :D...
best advice to lose cash now IMO if you want buy today.

Risky bet... IMO the below projects are looking to make big moves soon with products very close to launch, not yet on big exchanges and relatively low MC compared to what they will soon offer...

1. Iconomi
2. Waves (Plus waves based tokens such as MobileGo & Incent)
3. Komodo

Safety bet...

1. Ethereum
2. Monero

appreciate your input guys, decided to go a bit of each in the end, but only with quarter of what i initially was going to invest, decided to put the rest in stocks.

That is a good decision. It is buy most of the top 10 coins.

dont you think its a bit risky to invest in some coins that are pretty unstable. I mean its not your fault, but there is no stabile coin on the market which offers you full anonimity.

Buy Bitshares BTS while it is still cheap. It is ready for a mega pump  ;)

Litecoin is your best bet.

It will moon like never before as soon as segwit activates. Im guessing by summer, we will see a $20 litecoin!

Yeah, I can't believe how naive many people are. Do your own research and check the people you take advice from thoroughly. Basically you shouldn't trust anyone.

1. I would recommend Komodo. The agama wallet has jumblr function to anonymize your coins. Also decentralize exchange.
2 Sys coin -It has partnership with Microsoft.

Or maybe diversify your investments between different cryptos. Imo the gain potentials could be great if you could find some stabile coins.

why would you invest 25k in 3 coins that sound the same and start with z?

i think op is troll, but if not i would do more research, specially in investing. you should spread more, take 2-3 months browse the forums and sites and find 6-10 coins that you think will change the world.

then invest in those.

my picks: lisk, dcr, eth, siacoin, viacoin, crown, kmd, mue, pivx and nxs

also i would think about buying a mn maybe from pivx or crown, both not bad and not too expensive

Why would you buy a coin that just got pumped? In fact, most of the coins mentioned in this thread got pumped the past couple of weeks. Do a quick Google search, this isn't the first time that a bunch of alts were pumped only to be dumped later.

lol into none of those.

All into WBB - an actual company :)

This, also Komodo is cheap now as is Aeon. BTS is getting stealth so buy now sell on the news. You could easily do 4x

Bitshares (https://r.bitshares.eu/e15712aee74b4732/bct) is currently developing Stealth.


On top:

>3 Second Blocks

Current BitShares Testnet Stress-test Highlight: 3300TX per second 20000 OP per second - https://steemit.com/bitshares/@ash/current-bitshares-testnet-stress-test-highlight-3300tx-14000ops

None of your choices.

There is plenty of action in the alt coin sector atm - why "invest"?

Ethereum no contest. It will have Zero Knowledge transactions soon.

http://www.buzzprovider.com/bytecent-bitcoin-alternative/

and WBB

may be you can diverse fractal of your portfolio towards Bitbay which is promising a decent  RIO.good luck with your investment  ;D don t let anyone to deceive you.