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Title: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: mu77aL on March 31, 2017, 12:34:31 AM
Hi Community,

today i played again on Bitcasino.io like often.

After i made some Winnings, i realized that the Bonus (25% on deposit) i should get for my deposit from 0.07BTC is impossible to reach.
I should Bet in complete, to get the Bonus from Bitcasino.io 25.69BTC[/b] which correspondents dents to 24.500 €. analyzing the Bonus section there was seeable for me as customer:

Beginning:

Locked Bonus funds: 17,5mBtc
Real locked funds: 70mBtc

After i stopped playing:

Locked Bonus funds: ~29mBtc
Locked real funds: ~118 mBtc

..

So i decided to Stop the bonus and lose the bonus funds right away to get my real funds unlocked for every Casino on the Live Table, because before it was not possible to play everywhere.
After i checked the bonus conditons and again analyzed the bonus page i realized the bonus funds of 29 and my real funds like before which are locked, as you can see upstairs  ::) .

So i deactived the Bonus. Following is happing.

Locked Bonus funds: Set to 0
Locked Real funds: Set to 70 ~118mBtc before?

--

So after complaining with the Support of Bitcasino they told me they will check the issue with the Management and gave me the Information:
"Locked real funds and Locked real Bonus funds are lost after deactivating the Bonus. U can download the log from the support below.

So why i still have 70 :) ? The System shows me that i have locked funds before from 118mBtc.

48 mbtc are Missing from the Winnings




Also very important is that the bonus funds are not possible to play with.
So my Winnings i made - Are only by setting my "Real Locked funds" from the Deposit of 0.07BTC from the beginning.

bitcasino48mbtcmissing.txt (https://www.file-upload.net/download-12408605/bitcasino48mbtcmissing.txt.html)

Someone of you guys have the same problem?


kindly regards,
mu77al



Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: bdsahin on March 31, 2017, 01:04:08 AM
gambling site is very risky be careful everybody.


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: Arcteryx on March 31, 2017, 01:53:42 AM
No surprise there.
They have been warned about locking accounts because of bonus crossing the line there.
I would avoid all their casinos in that line up.


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: Oilacris on March 31, 2017, 02:20:54 AM
This kind of situation does really happen to a site when commonly a player crosses its bonuses If this would happen to me I wont play again to this site because its already indicating that playing to it would be risky when you done or accomplish this kind of event and also this thread should be on scam accusation? Correct me if im wrong


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: mu77aL on March 31, 2017, 04:22:08 AM
No surprise there.
They have been warned about locking accounts because of bonus crossing the line there.
I would avoid all their casinos in that line up.

gambling site is very risky be careful everybody.

This kind of situation does really happen to a site when commonly a player crosses its bonuses If this would happen to me I wont play again to this site because its already indicating that playing to it would be risky when you done or accomplish this kind of event and also this thread should be on scam accusation? Correct me if im wrong

thankx for your comments so far Guys. It`s really good to hear that im not alone.
Let`s wait how BitCasino will react to this. They are introduced to this and also they are pleased to take a comment.

kindly regards,
mu77al


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: piloder on March 31, 2017, 04:57:02 AM
thankx for your comments so far Guys. It`s really good to hear that im not alone.
Let`s wait how BitCasino will react to this. They are introduced to this and also they are pleased to take a comment.
Waiting for their response will be best idea for now and actually you have to post scam accusation thread in Scam Accusation board not here.

Will have a close eye on your issue, till than i will also stop playing in bitcasino. 


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: RichDaniel on March 31, 2017, 05:06:04 AM
If you search this casino in scam accusation section, you can find many accusations against them, I am not surprised you are scammed by them.


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: mu77aL on March 31, 2017, 05:08:37 AM
If you search this casino in scam accusation section, you can find many accusations against them, I am not surprised you are scammed by them.

if u will search for betcoin.ag which your supporting in your Signature Campagin you will find a lot more ;)


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: RichDaniel on March 31, 2017, 05:58:26 AM
If you search this casino in scam accusation section, you can find many accusations against them, I am not surprised you are scammed by them.

if u will search for betcoin.ag which your supporting in your Signature Campagin you will find a lot more ;)

So what? I have no problem in betcoin, and betcoin didn't refuse to pay that jackpot to that winner, the case is that betsoft refused to pay the jackpot. In the end, betcoin offered a decent fee to him by their own pocket. You can find more betsoft's non-payment of jackpot before this case.

BTW. Don't bullshit me if I want to help you, if you don't like talk with me, don't quote me. You deserve the loss, I don't show any sympathy to you any more.


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: Trayber on March 31, 2017, 07:30:31 AM
If you search this casino in scam accusation section, you can find many accusations against them, I am not surprised you are scammed by them.

if u will search for betcoin.ag which your supporting in your Signature Campagin you will find a lot more ;)

So what? I have no problem in betcoin, and betcoin didn't refuse to pay that jackpot to that winner, the case is that betsoft refused to pay the jackpot. In the end, betcoin offered a decent fee to him by their own pocket. You can find more betsoft's non-payment of jackpot before this case.

BTW. Don't bullshit me if I want to help you, if you don't like talk with me, don't quote me. You deserve the loss, I don't show any sympathy to you any more.

Shut it down man, you are supporting a scam site. No one respect what you say. All for the mighty dollar you sell your soul and post these bullshit messages to up your post count.

Regarding the OP,

You took a bonus, Im not sure what the problem is man, if you activate it you have to clear the bonus wagering requirements which isnt much if you only took the 25% before you can unlock your balance. I use these alot there and never have any issue like you. But then again I follow the wagering requirements and they are not a scam in that regards. When I clear wagering requirements I request payout and I receive within a couple minutes.


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: michkima on March 31, 2017, 08:48:23 AM
If you search this casino in scam accusation section, you can find many accusations against them, I am not surprised you are scammed by them.

if u will search for betcoin.ag which your supporting in your Signature Campagin you will find a lot more ;)

So what? I have no problem in betcoin, and betcoin didn't refuse to pay that jackpot to that winner, the case is that betsoft refused to pay the jackpot. In the end, betcoin offered a decent fee to him by their own pocket. You can find more betsoft's non-payment of jackpot before this case.

BTW. Don't bullshit me if I want to help you, if you don't like talk with me, don't quote me. You deserve the loss, I don't show any sympathy to you any more.

Shut it down man, you are supporting a scam site. No one respect what you say. All for the mighty dollar you sell your soul and post these bullshit messages to up your post count.

Regarding the OP,

You took a bonus, Im not sure what the problem is man, if you activate it you have to clear the bonus wagering requirements which isnt much if you only took the 25% before you can unlock your balance. I use these alot there and never have any issue like you. But then again I follow the wagering requirements and they are not a scam in that regards. When I clear wagering requirements I request payout and I receive within a couple minutes.

I think what happened to OP is that when he finally decided to not get the bonus, he tried to gamble the locked bonus amount. Generally, in every casino, the bonus is the last to be used up in your balance. So when OP tried to gamble the locked funds, he was not actually gambling the bonus funds but he was gambling his own funds. Hence when he cancelled the bonus the true amount showed up.


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: ndnh on March 31, 2017, 02:50:49 PM
Quote
Beginning:

Locked Bonus funds: 17,5mBtc
Real locked funds: 70mBtc


That appears right.


Quote
After i stopped playing:

Locked Bonus funds: ~29mBtc
Locked real funds: ~118 mBtc

Locked bonus funds afaik should be 17,5 not 29 ???



Quote
I should Bet in complete, to get the Bonus from Bitcasino.io 25.69BTC

Assuming 40x rollover requirement, it should be 0.7BTC only.



Quote
So why i still have 70 Smiley ? The System shows me that i have locked funds before from 118mBtc.

48 mbtc are Missing from the Winnings


That appears normal. When you request to forfeit a bonus, all winnings are forfeited. (but if lose, you will lose from the real money. Don't take bonus unless you really intend to complete or lose it.)




Hi Community,

today i played again on Bitcasino.io like often.

After i made some Winnings, i realized that the Bonus (25% on deposit) i should get for my deposit from 0.07BTC is impossible to reach.
I should Bet in complete, to get the Bonus from Bitcasino.io 25.69BTC[/b] which correspondents dents to 24.500 €. analyzing the Bonus section there was seeable for me as customer:

Beginning:

Locked Bonus funds: 17,5mBtc
Real locked funds: 70mBtc

After i stopped playing:

Locked Bonus funds: ~29mBtc
Locked real funds: ~118 mBtc

..

So i decided to Stop the bonus and lose the bonus funds right away to get my real funds unlocked for every Casino on the Live Table, because before it was not possible to play everywhere.
After i checked the bonus conditons and again analyzed the bonus page i realized the bonus funds of 29 and my real funds like before which are locked, as you can see upstairs  ::) .

So i deactived the Bonus. Following is happing.

Locked Bonus funds: Set to 0
Locked Real funds: Set to 70 ~118mBtc before?

--

So after complaining with the Support of Bitcasino they told me they will check the issue with the Management and gave me the Information:
"Locked real funds and Locked real Bonus funds are lost after deactivating the Bonus. U can download the log from the support below.

So why i still have 70 :) ? The System shows me that i have locked funds before from 118mBtc.

48 mbtc are Missing from the Winnings




Also very important is that the bonus funds are not possible to play with.
So my Winnings i made - Are only by setting my "Real Locked funds" from the Deposit of 0.07BTC from the beginning.

bitcasino48mbtcmissing.txt (https://www.file-upload.net/download-12408605/bitcasino48mbtcmissing.txt.html)

Someone of you guys have the same problem?


kindly regards,
mu77al




Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: eternalgloom on March 31, 2017, 04:40:33 PM
And this is why I usually try to avoid casino's that give me a deposit bonus automatically when they have such high rollover reqs.
Though, with the numbers you're giving, it seems like there must be an error, as the user above me pointed out.


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: sonic212 on March 31, 2017, 05:05:32 PM
I do not really see what he went through to the site Bitcasino.io, because he has not provided much evidence of fraud that he experienced btcasino.io gambling sites, so I think you should give a more detailed breakdown of all this is to clarify all people about this.


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: ralle14 on March 31, 2017, 05:35:57 PM
And this is why I usually try to avoid casino's that give me a deposit bonus automatically when they have such high rollover reqs.
Though, with the numbers you're giving, it seems like there must be an error, as the user above me pointed out.
Afaik bitcasino doesn't give deposit bonuses automatically, on my first time making a deposit on their casino I didn't cancelled out any bonuses before playing

Quote
After i stopped playing:

Locked Bonus funds: ~29mBtc
Locked real funds: ~118 mBtc

Locked bonus funds afaik should be 17,5 not 29 ???

Yeah it should be 17.5 because if it increased to 29 the total amount required to unlock the bonus would also increase.


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: mu77aL on April 01, 2017, 12:10:45 AM




Quote
I should Bet in complete, to get the Bonus from Bitcasino.io 25.69BTC

Assuming 40x rollover requirement, it should be 0.7BTC only.




They simply added a different section where is standing that every live table counts only  for 10% unlocking the bonus






Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: mu77aL on April 01, 2017, 12:22:04 AM
If you search this casino in scam accusation section, you can find many accusations against them, I am not surprised you are scammed by them.

if u will search for betcoin.ag which your supporting in your Signature Campagin you will find a lot more ;)

So what? I have no problem in betcoin, and betcoin didn't refuse to pay that jackpot to that winner, the case is that betsoft refused to pay the jackpot. In the end, betcoin offered a decent fee to him by their own pocket. You can find more betsoft's non-payment of jackpot before this case.

BTW. Don't bullshit me if I want to help you, if you don't like talk with me, don't quote me. You deserve the loss, I don't show any sympathy to you any more.

Shut it down man, you are supporting a scam site. No one respect what you say. All for the mighty dollar you sell your soul and post these bullshit messages to up your post count.

Regarding the OP,

You took a bonus, Im not sure what the problem is man, if you activate it you have to clear the bonus wagering requirements which isnt much if you only took the 25% before you can unlock your balance. I use these alot there and never have any issue like you. But then again I follow the wagering requirements and they are not a scam in that regards. When I clear wagering requirements I request payout and I receive within a couple minutes.

hi Trayber,

thankx for your comment. Iam a clerk and i read the complete Terms and Conditions of Bitcasino.

The Problem i have with Bitcasino is very simple - The User cannot see, the difference between locked real fund and locked real bonus funds.  I want to warn the Community from my Experience!

----> The Terms and Condition from Bitcasino are saying the Following.

If u Forfeit a Bonus its possibile for the Company, cause of the Terms& Cond.  to delete all locked real funds - Even if u dindt played a round/ Your Bitcoins are not confirmed so far/ or u just want to play in every Gaming Section and thats why u deleting the Bonus


So its very Simple. The Bonuses form Bitcasino.io are to grab the Gamblers Attention. And the scammy try to make a legal fraud about your btc.


kindly regards,
mu77al


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: game-protect on April 01, 2017, 03:01:15 AM
If you search this casino in scam accusation section, you can find many accusations against them, I am not surprised you are scammed by them.

if u will search for betcoin.ag which your supporting in your Signature Campagin you will find a lot more ;)

So what? I have no problem in betcoin, and betcoin didn't refuse to pay that jackpot to that winner, the case is that betsoft refused to pay the jackpot. In the end, betcoin offered a decent fee to him by their own pocket. You can find more betsoft's non-payment of jackpot before this case.

BTW. Don't bullshit me if I want to help you, if you don't like talk with me, don't quote me. You deserve the loss, I don't show any sympathy to you any more.
You just outed yourself as manager/owner of the betcoin.ag scam, because only they could know that Betsoft did not pay!

However, betcoin.ag owes the jackpot: https://game-protect.com/betsoft-scam/ (https://game-protect.com/betsoft-scam/)

Who owes the money, betcoin.ag or Betsoft scam?

A) betcoin.ag crystal clear owe the jackpot, because

1) The operator of betcoin.ag is the contract partner of the players

2) Player logged in and played with the betcoin.ag casino client

3) Jackpot winner deposited money to betcoin.ag

4) The juridical not valid Terms of Service on betcoin.ag website do not state one word about that the Betsoft scam collect the jackpot contributions and is responsible for payment


Title: Re: !AVOID! !BITCASINO.IO! !AVOID! !SCAMACCUSION!
Post by: cpfreeplz on April 01, 2017, 03:04:42 AM
I can't tell if something just got all screwed up on their website and their support is incompetent or if they're actually a scam. Let's see if anyone else starts a scam accusation.