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Title: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: thejaytiesto on April 08, 2017, 01:45:00 PM
http://image.ibb.co/b0DmWQ/ltcc.png

What do you think about this? chinese mafia already filled bags and time for the segwit hype to continue?

Can we get LTC with segwit before BTC deploys UASF and gets segwit?

Millions still to be made with a possible LTC ATH or at least a big 200% pump?

Let's find out.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: kryptqnick on April 08, 2017, 01:54:31 PM
Why round two? If the price is really pumped then it is still the beginning of round one, I believe. The price is still growing but a bit slower than it used to grow. I believe litecoin can stabilize around $10 for now and not become worth less. It is really worth a lot more than it costs. This coin is in top 5 famous cryptos without doubt, so it actually should be around $40 for now.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: BitcoinHodler on April 08, 2017, 01:55:16 PM
LTC round two began yesterday when F2Pool twitter released a trolling tweet about "considering quits on SegWit". that was the time i knew i had to get in with more power at the bottom.

with coins as big as litecoin, the pump doesn't just end in one day. it goes on for a while and there will be times like this when they dump to get some profit out and refresh their stash with cheap coins once again.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on April 08, 2017, 03:49:59 PM
LTC round two began yesterday when F2Pool twitter released a trolling tweet about "considering quits on SegWit". that was the time i knew i had to get in with more power at the bottom.
You mean if Wang's troll tweet = a good entry point at the bottom. Wang has still held the key of the litecoin traders.

with coins as big as litecoin, the pump doesn't just end in one day. it goes on for a while and there will be times like this when they dump to get some profit out and refresh their stash with cheap coins once again.
It can be identical with the ETF hype by the bitcoin. Some weeks were full with the pump of the bitcoin price about the bitcoin ETF hype. I should mark your word because it will be true in the future.  ;D


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Ayers on April 08, 2017, 04:26:08 PM
try to remember that litecoin was worth 0.05 back in the past, going 200% now is not that fabulous, would only be a good price correction, litecoin was very undervalued for many months when ethereum and dash took the throne, you have now that those two coins are dumped and money move again to the next big train, which look like will be litecoin, i can see a 0.05 again like in the past better to buy now if you want a good profit


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Rikim4ru on April 08, 2017, 05:14:14 PM
I would go that far to say 0,05

LTC market is very active and healthy atm.
I would not be surprised to see a big leg up just an hour or two before confirmation that BW signal is incoming.

What everyone should realize, is that segwit is really the BIG FUCKING DEAL. most of the bitcoin application will be ported to litecoin, changing the tide effectively. BTC will be a store of value barely moving and LTC will turn in  the bitcoin we were dreaming about with global micro-transaction and buying power/offer.
Confidential transactions, among the others technological advancement, will replace the need of XMR or Dash. Rootstock will also give litecoin an edge on ETH, enabling smart contracts.

So yeah, there's a bigger picture behind...

The beauty and Health in LTC is also that everyone expect a huge crash any day now, Bringing  in fact a lot of health to LTC with room to liquidate short and feed on bad trade. LTC is there to shake you good emotionally, I think we had the first demonstration.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: alphahacktivist on April 08, 2017, 08:57:01 PM
I would go that far to say 0,05

LTC market is very active and healthy atm.
I would not be surprised to see a big leg up just an hour or two before confirmation that BW signal is incoming.

What everyone should realize, is that segwit is really the BIG FUCKING DEAL. most of the bitcoin application will be ported to litecoin, changing the tide effectively. BTC will be a store of value barely moving and LTC will turn in  the bitcoin we were dreaming about with global micro-transaction and buying power/offer.
Confidential transactions, among the others technological advancement, will replace the need of XMR or Dash. Rootstock will also give litecoin an edge on ETH, enabling smart contracts.

So yeah, there's a bigger picture behind...

The beauty and Health in LTC is also that everyone expect a huge crash any day now, Bringing  in fact a lot of health to LTC with room to liquidate short and feed on bad trade. LTC is there to shake you good emotionally, I think we had the first demonstration.


its a legit question i agree but that dude do not realise that whales can use this kind of "news" to crash and buy lower : https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/6494ab/litecoin_on_coinbase/

but no doubt, its a real question


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: aoluain on April 08, 2017, 09:07:48 PM
The beauty and Health in LTC is also that everyone expect a huge crash any day now, Bringing  in fact a lot of health to LTC with room to liquidate short and feed on bad trade.

can you elaborate on the "hugh crash" part ?


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: aoluain on April 08, 2017, 09:14:42 PM
http://image.ibb.co/b0DmWQ/ltcc.png

What do you think about this? chinese mafia already filled bags and time for the segwit hype to continue?

Can we get LTC with segwit before BTC deploys UASF and gets segwit?

Millions still to be made with a possible LTC ATH or at least a big 200% pump?

Let's find out.

Amazing what a tweet can do from a guy with a big reputation good or bad
so far it just goes to show how whales feed off panic, the key is to hold tight [and pray]  ;D


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Rikim4ru on April 08, 2017, 11:33:44 PM
The beauty and Health in LTC is also that everyone expect a huge crash any day now, Bringing  in fact a lot of health to LTC with room to liquidate short and feed on bad trade.

can you elaborate on the "hugh crash" part ?

just look at a few year back charts


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: CryptoCoinNews on April 09, 2017, 12:56:38 AM
in early 2016 litecoin incraese to 0.03 bitcoin
in 2017 my prediction litecoin can back incraese again to 0.03 bitcoin


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: machinek20 on April 09, 2017, 01:14:51 AM
My oh my, there are really a lot of people investing in litecoin now, it sure will be interesting, I hope it will keep on rising and become a strong alt coin, let the round 2 begin , I am ready to see some litecoin changes


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Chikito on April 09, 2017, 02:31:57 AM
convoy public opinion for LTC prices soaring, although the application of segwit in LTC, LTC still far below ethereum technology. LTC possibility will be used only for mining, and trading it.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: clickerz on April 09, 2017, 02:37:38 AM
I am also surprised with the rise of litecoin. Suddenly, people got interested in litecoin along with ETH. This is good news if there is a second round of pumping.After a long time of hibernating, finally LTC woke up :)


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: raiblock on April 09, 2017, 02:58:17 AM
I am also surprised with the rise of litecoin. Suddenly, people got interested in litecoin along with ETH. This is good news if there is a second round of pumping.After a long time of hibernating, finally LTC woke up :)
It is indeed funny to see the attention both of these have been getting lately and the influx of new users of litecoin can only make it more valuable with the induction into coinbase's assets now.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 09, 2017, 06:21:07 AM
http://image.ibb.co/b0DmWQ/ltcc.png

What do you think about this?

https://i.imgur.com/N8xyMbI.gif


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: trollercoaster on April 09, 2017, 06:51:30 AM
Litecoin hashrate dropped ~20%, which I think explains the drop in the SegWit signaling:

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/difficulty

They were able to move the price up by 200+% and the hashrate is up less then 30%.

So they are building a base of miners are profitable at the higher price thus encouraging signaling SegWit. Presumably that 20% hashrate will be turned back on when necessary to push the activation over 75%.

It is quite probable the Chinamen are simply manipulating the market and delaying SegWit on Litecoin in order to maximize their ability to profit on price manipulation. They can also use these resources gained from manipulation to buy more hashrate to signal for SegWit.

It is too much obfuscated to figure out. Bottom line is Bitcoin won't get scaling. Litecoin is poised to get scaling.

I think so, round 2 is coming soon! I'm waiting on the sidelines to hopefully grab some cheap litecoins, lets see what kind of fuckery these chinks are up to.  :D


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Pursuer on April 09, 2017, 06:56:37 AM
to be honest I don't like what I am currently seeing on the charts. things were surely looking good when I was looking at the 1 hour charts even after that dump mentioned in OP but afterwards there has been more dump and the market doesn't seem to be much interested in litecoin anymore and the orderbooks are much thinner than before. which can also be understandable but at the same time price is still stuck at 0.0088-0.0092BTC range.

I am not so much an expert on analysis and I believe it is bullshit in altcoin market but I say LTC needs to break out of some lines so we can expect the direction. above 0.0097BTC or below 0.0082BTC for example.

but my gut tells me we haven't yet seen the last of this current rally. and it is worth mentioning I an holding some LTC at the moment.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Josepino on April 09, 2017, 07:04:51 AM
try to remember that litecoin was worth 0.05 back in the past, going 200% now is not that fabulous, would only be a good price correction, litecoin was very undervalued for many months when ethereum and dash took the throne, you have now that those two coins are dumped and money move again to the next big train, which look like will be litecoin, i can see a 0.05 again like in the past better to buy now if you want a good profit

it's good comment from you. I have the same as your thought. it will return 0.05btc before 2018. however ltc must hit 0.03btc before 0.05btc coming.
Buying and holding ltc are smart choice at this time.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: 1BitcoinMillionaire on April 09, 2017, 07:07:00 AM
I keep looking here (http://litecoin-segwit.info/) and seeing segwit adoption going down?!

64% now? I think the miners are screwing with it and inside trading although that is not really a thing here.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: thelibertycap on April 09, 2017, 07:14:00 AM
convoy public opinion for LTC prices soaring, although the application of segwit in LTC, LTC still far below ethereum technology. LTC possibility will be used only for mining, and trading it.

ETH's bubbly highs put it at almost 10x the marketcap of Litecoin which just went through years of consolidation.
So far no real world use for Ethereum, just speculation - it has not yet come through the peak of inflated expectations phase. It will take long time for people to actually put the technology to use. Also Hyperledger might serve as a better solution for most of the applications. It is hard to see Ethereum's upside that has not been priced in already - most of the upside now comes from its the 'number 2 in crypto' position and lots of advertisement in mainstream media.

Btw, in the future, Litecoin can have smart contracts and EVM on the chain as well.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: thelibertycap on April 09, 2017, 07:29:23 AM
to be honest I don't like what I am currently seeing on the charts. things were surely looking good when I was looking at the 1 hour charts even after that dump mentioned in OP but afterwards there has been more dump and the market doesn't seem to be much interested in litecoin anymore and the orderbooks are much thinner than before. which can also be understandable but at the same time price is still stuck at 0.0088-0.0092BTC range.

I am not so much an expert on analysis and I believe it is bullshit in altcoin market but I say LTC needs to break out of some lines so we can expect the direction. above 0.0097BTC or below 0.0082BTC for example.

but my gut tells me we haven't yet seen the last of this current rally. and it is worth mentioning I an holding some LTC at the moment.

currently 2 hour chart:
LTC, XMR above 20EMA - ETH below
LTC above 200EMA - ETH, XMR below


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: NorrisK on April 09, 2017, 07:34:44 AM
I really think Litecoin will be hiking towards 0.03 again this month.

Based of previous rallies, it is not going to stop here. The real FOMO hasn't even started yet.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Andri.Ghani on April 09, 2017, 07:55:09 AM
I really think Litecoin will be hiking towards 0.03 again this month.

Based of previous rallies, it is not going to stop here. The real FOMO hasn't even started yet.
maybe it could happen because, as I know this LTC their old coins less rapidly with the growth of new coins that have preceded more than the price of LTC. so, I guess correctly what you say will grow LTC high...!!!


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Spratan on April 09, 2017, 07:56:13 AM
Noobs are following a virtual chart of segwit % now.
64% = sell signal for them
Futures OKCOIN 1W are already under index price...


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: e-coinomist on April 09, 2017, 01:40:26 PM
I keep looking here (http://litecoin-segwit.info/) and seeing segwit adoption going down?!

64% now? I think the miners are screwing with it and inside trading although that is not really a thing here.
I'm out. Things not looking good red candle style. Indeed Ethereum got some real innovation so deserved its rise. Litecoin is nothing but hopium feastening on the BTC scale debacle.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: thejaytiesto on April 09, 2017, 02:35:39 PM
Well FUCK I panic sold when I woke up at around 81 with like 10% loses, im fucking done and im not getting back in unless the price looks like a bargain.

Can't deal with the stupid stress of all possible technical and fundamental analysis being instantly destroyed by a single tweet, this is ridiculous. Who knows how much the price is going to tank now? every time they do this they destroy investor's confidence. If Jihan confirms it it will go back to like 4 USD or something.

Noobs are following a virtual chart of segwit % now.
64% = sell signal for them
Futures OKCOIN 1W are already under index price...

Noobs where trading on block variance, this crash is due this tweet:

https://twitter.com/shaolinfry/status/850995104240336896

Now where's the bottom? 80 was it? 70? 50? Good luck with that.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: John Titor on April 09, 2017, 06:18:43 PM
I don't see it going below 700k, and if it does I doubt it will last long.  Might be a good time to re-up


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: thejaytiesto on April 09, 2017, 11:24:09 PM
The hashrate seems to have stopped falling below around 60%. The current price is 766k. We've lost around 10% hashrate, with a low 24h price of 730k. It's anybody's guess to know where's the bottom. Litecoin is still #1 volume in poloniex, buy order is huge, but i dont feel comfortable holding it until things clear up. The thing is, it's 2 weeks of sustained 75% what we need. Even if someone comes up with 15% and brings it to 75%, Jihan has 2 weeks to counterattack and bring it back down again. How are we supposed to ever get segwit then? Looks like UASF is the only way.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: bitcub on April 09, 2017, 11:43:53 PM
Brilliant analysis dude. These kind of people are using their influence to trick people from buying while the truth is they do the opposite, they Short.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Cha-ap on April 10, 2017, 03:25:03 AM
Segwit or not, No worry i am long in this coin, and im still up 50% percent, and still  buying more cheap coin


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 10, 2017, 03:47:50 AM
FYI, I sold some STEEM and bought more LTC on this dip.

I will continue to buy LTC with every thing I can find. I have 1 BTC in another account which I will probably transfer to Poloniex so I can buy more LTC.

The volume on LTC is building. LTC has far too high of volume lately to stay so undervalued. The pressure is building. Also, fiat is coming into LTC via Coinbase, so that in my mind is enough to push LTC's price up regardless of SegWit activation.

Litecoin is being added to Coinbase.
https://status.coinbase.com/

My thesis of both the rise of price outpacing hashrate rise due to constrained supply of ASICs, thus driving miners to increasingly signal SegWit, plus my thesis that "It Is Just Time" and that Bitcoin can't rise (willl remain range bound < $1200) until Litecoin catches up to $30+, seems to be holding as truth.The huge volume on LTC tells me LTC has become the #1 altcoin, the pressure is building for another upward explosion in price, and it extremely undervalued. LTC is starting to average more volume than ETC.



meanwhile in Bitcoin land..

BU Support weakens, SegWit stronger (34/30)

https://coin.dance/blocks

It is impossible for it to reach 95%.

Jihan Wu will never allow Blockstream to exist on Bitcoin. And I already explained he has checkmated Blockstream with his Bitmain covert asciiboost hardware spread out all over in the wild, which he can activate at will without even implicating himself nor Bitmain. Perhaps you missed my elucidation on that.

Bottom line is Bitcoin won't get scaling. Litecoin is poised to get scaling.

maybe, but I wouldnt bet my house on that.

I would, if I had a house. Seriously. I am selling everything I can find to buy more LTC.


SegWit approval on LTC is down to 62%. What a show. miners must laughing their asses of.

http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php

Within the "current activation period", it has been steady at 64-65% since my post which quoted.

Your theory is that they (Jihan and co) will not try to block segwit on LTC but their actions speak the opposite, at least until now. My take is that they are playing with fire and might get burned sooner than they expect.

I also considered your proposition that some of the chinese miners are purposely delaying signalling segwit in order to accumulate at lowest prices possible and thus maximize their profit in the forth coming pump. Actually, I don't see why they wouldn't do this.

Jihan Wu is playing along the game. I never said he wasn't blocking SegWit on Litecoin. But as I wrote, there is 20% of hashrate that was temporarily pulled so the signaling reduced from ~70% to ~62% but since has climbed back to ~64% because more and more other miners are switching to signal SegWit because they are starting to understand the price dip is due to signaling.

As the base of signaling builds back to 69 - 70% again, that 20% hashrate can return and push it over 75%. That might BTCC who is moving that 20% hashrate to and from Ethereum (their GPUs mining farm).

Since BW has stated it will soon signal for SegWit, perhaps some of that hashrate that Jihan had there has been moved to Antpool. Jihan may have been using proxies to hide or influence the decision of other pools. Any way, as I stated before that the hashrate game is too obfuscated for me to determine definitively, but the trend of LTC is now undeniable.

All roads to scaling lead to LTC.

Get on the train or be left behind.



Re: Snapchat first investor thinks bitcoin could realistically be worth $500,000

According to Jeremy Liew, the first investor in Snapchat, and Blockchain CEO and cofounder Peter Smith. In a presentation sent to Business Insider, the duo laid out their case for why it's reasonable for bitcoin to explode to $500,000 by 2030.

A very interesting article at Business Insider that worth reading: http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-could-be-500000-by-2030-first-snapchat-investor-says-2017-3

I originally thought BTC might top out below $50k.

But now that I understand that BTC will be exclusively only the settlement layer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1857162.msg18526721#msg18526721) for the mass scaling which will take place in altcoins, I now think his analysis may be correct.

All the power broker settlement will likely to be on the Bitcoin blockchain which will be the bulk of the fungible capital generated by the masses on the altcoins as dictated by the power-law (Zipf's law) distribution of wealth. Thus Bitcoin is the reserve currency of all the altcoins.

This is why one must stay invested in this sector. Note I do think the altcoins that scale up the masses will see faster appreciation than BTC in spurts, so that is one of way of increasing one's BTC if you are expert at speculation. Otherwise buy and hodl BTC.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 10, 2017, 07:23:56 AM
The volume on LTC is building. LTC has far too high of volume lately to stay so undervalued. The pressure is building. Also, fiat is coming into LTC via Coinbase, so that in my mind is enough to push LTC's price up regardless of SegWit activation.

The volume is indeed insanely high.
...
I can't see LTC not going up again  :)

when price is changing volume goes up too, it doesn't matter if it is changing for the better or for worse (down or up) and it only shows people who are making trades to take advantage of the changing price in short term aka day trading. and you can't say it is positive. and in this case the high volume shows a massive dump in the past 24 hours.

what is positive and shows good signs is when price is stable or with little change but the volume is high which shows accumulation with smart money coming in without anybody noticing.

i am not saying litecoin can not go up again, i am saying your conclusion is wrong.

The volume is extremely high but it is not a panic waterfall collapse. That to me is very bullish. It indicates to me the smart money is trying enter at the lowest price they can before the next blast off.

Nearly all the altcoins are down because the market is confused and thinks that Blockstream has defeated Jihan Wu's BU, but I expect BTC is topping out at $1200 (range bound as I predicted many days ago) once the market realizes that this BS about SegWit signaling on Bitcoin gaining momentum is nonsense. Bitcoin will never get scaling. The market will digest this, Bitcoin will stumble and Litecoin will rocket up.

The market is stupid because Bitcoin will actually benefit from scaling on Litecoin, but the market has to go through its gyrations. In any case, my thesis is Bitcoin remains range bound until Litecoin catches up, because the charge says "It Is Just Time" and because Bitcoin can't move up until there will be scaling in the Satoshi's PoW ecosystem. Litecoin will get it, Bitcoin won't, but that it is a good thing for Bitcoin. Market doesn't realize any of this yet, but the smart money does.



Channels are important and to me the market says this is not an issue. The thick blue line in the LTCBTC chart is the long-term downtrend from the 2013-2015 highs. This run should go to 0.015 at a minimum. I also consider this to be a stair-step advance where the decline is not enough to allow solid entry points, but sufficient to force weak holders into panic selling.

Additionally, markets like to fill the gaps seen on the downward move in the LTCBTC chart, so we should come back up to at least close those.

We have until April 10th for the long-term downtrend and the bottom of the current channel to force a direction. There is likely to be a decisive move over the weekend, which I expect to be positive.

I would sell some if 0.00855-0.00865 is broken, and most if 0.00775 is breached.

https://www.tradingview.com/x/KpLZtIlp/ (https://www.tradingview.com/x/KpLZtIlp/)

https://www.tradingview.com/x/Bxvsk7kP/ (https://www.tradingview.com/x/Bxvsk7kP/)

We are still within the channel!


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: kriptom on April 10, 2017, 08:25:56 AM
You do not have to be expecting too much LTC. The transaction volume is high because it is just an old coin.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Josepino on April 10, 2017, 09:31:36 AM
I don't see it going below 700k, and if it does I doubt it will last long.  Might be a good time to re-up

Yes. it's on high rally, guy. Just buy more cheap ltc coins and hold it during at least 3 months and you will get big profits then.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: alyssa85 on April 10, 2017, 11:46:08 AM
You do not have to be expecting too much LTC. The transaction volume is high because it is just an old coin.

Or transaction volume is high because old bag-holders are taking the opportunity to cash out...


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: talkbitcoin on April 10, 2017, 11:51:19 AM
You do not have to be expecting too much LTC. The transaction volume is high because it is just an old coin.

old coins which still have a very high transaction volume show that they are still strong and around. a new coin having high transaction volume only shows a temporary hype.
but with LTC that shows some real usage for this coin.

you can check other old coins and many of them which disappeared even. it is very hard to stay around and stay useful in altcoin market which everything is being pump and dumped.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: OrangeP on April 10, 2017, 12:24:10 PM
SegWit is catching up once again. We're at 66%.

Quite possible big pools are using it to make free money. A SegWit activated Litecoin is definitely worth a lot more than $8.50.
 

Everyone involved please consider running a node for a while to make the user activated soft fork happen.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: hankyulpark on April 10, 2017, 12:28:20 PM
I don't know if all developing effort that is currently on BTC will automatically go to LTC because it had SegWit activated. I believe that it will add more gas to the fire and the discussion will intensify, but almost everyone that is doing business with BTC will remain inside this boat.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: thejaytiesto on April 10, 2017, 12:41:22 PM
As of right now I fail to see how segwit can activate on LTC. Like I said before, LTC needs 2 weeks of steady 75%+ signaling. Jihan should have enough to push it back down, and 2 weeks is enough to organize a counter attack where he is able to stack enough hashrate to fuck things up by going below 75% again, just for a moment and then the counter goes back to 0. So how are we going to get past Jihan's ASIC blocking?

I think UASF is the only way, and if UASF is used in Litecoin before Bitcoin, then that is a good reason for a pump. But activating it with hashrate? im not sure.

What fucks me up is the fact that AT ANY MOMENT any of the big time miners can tweet and send the price to hell at will. This is just nuts. I can't sleep when I know that.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: asriloni on April 10, 2017, 01:08:01 PM
You do not have to be expecting too much LTC. The transaction volume is high because it is just an old coin.
That's true because it is the oldest coin and but looks like some parties are preventing the segwit to be activated in the future. We are all on the market has played by the whales and troll twet from the Chinese miners.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: coinling on April 10, 2017, 01:09:24 PM
The volume on LTC is building. LTC has far too high of volume lately to stay so undervalued. The pressure is building. Also, fiat is coming into LTC via Coinbase, so that in my mind is enough to push LTC's price up regardless of SegWit activation.

The volume is indeed insanely high.
...
I can't see LTC not going up again  :)

when price is changing volume goes up too, it doesn't matter if it is changing for the better or for worse (down or up) and it only shows people who are making trades to take advantage of the changing price in short term aka day trading. and you can't say it is positive. and in this case the high volume shows a massive dump in the past 24 hours.

what is positive and shows good signs is when price is stable or with little change but the volume is high which shows accumulation with smart money coming in without anybody noticing.

i am not saying litecoin can not go up again, i am saying your conclusion is wrong.

The volume is extremely high but it is not a panic waterfall collapse. That to me is very bullish. It indicates to me the smart money is trying enter at the lowest price they can before the next blast off.

Nearly all the altcoins are down because the market is confused and thinks that Blockstream has defeated Jihan Wu's BU, but I expect BTC is topping out at $1200 (range bound as I predicted many days ago) once the market realizes that this BS about SegWit signaling on Bitcoin gaining momentum is nonsense. Bitcoin will never get scaling. The market will digest this, Bitcoin will stumble and Litecoin will rocket up.

The market is stupid because Bitcoin will actually benefit from scaling on Litecoin, but the market has to go through its gyrations. In any case, my thesis is Bitcoin remains range bound until Litecoin catches up, because the charge says "It Is Just Time" and because Bitcoin can't move up until there will be scaling in the Satoshi's PoW ecosystem. Litecoin will get it, Bitcoin won't, but that it is a good thing for Bitcoin. Market doesn't realize any of this yet, but the smart money does.



Channels are important and to me the market says this is not an issue. The thick blue line in the LTCBTC chart is the long-term downtrend from the 2013-2015 highs. This run should go to 0.015 at a minimum. I also consider this to be a stair-step advance where the decline is not enough to allow solid entry points, but sufficient to force weak holders into panic selling.

Additionally, markets like to fill the gaps seen on the downward move in the LTCBTC chart, so we should come back up to at least close those.

We have until April 10th for the long-term downtrend and the bottom of the current channel to force a direction. There is likely to be a decisive move over the weekend, which I expect to be positive.

I would sell some if 0.00855-0.00865 is broken, and most if 0.00775 is breached.

https://www.tradingview.com/x/KpLZtIlp/ (https://www.tradingview.com/x/KpLZtIlp/)

https://www.tradingview.com/x/Bxvsk7kP/ (https://www.tradingview.com/x/Bxvsk7kP/)

We are still within the channel!


Not really:
We are rather in the blue channel right now :
https://www.tradingview.com/x/W8F30TvX/ (https://www.tradingview.com/x/W8F30TvX/)

Since when are you trading btw ?

Thought you never cared about buying/selling coins.

First time i see you bullish on something apart from your own coin :)

Actually this must be either real bullish , or doom.


I still don't get why Litecoin hashpower differs from bitcoin ? I mean all those big bitcoin miners could basically do whatever they want with litecoin, couln't they?




Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Fredomago on April 10, 2017, 01:13:30 PM
I don't see it going below 700k, and if it does I doubt it will last long.  Might be a good time to re-up
yes mate, its still 700k and its resisting to fall down much deeper for those who can buy more its time for buying those cheap ltc and hold for a while there's a lots of chances to see the price to go up some more, i'm trying to buy little by little inside yobit and keep checking the price inside polo to make sure that price still reasonable.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Geraldo on April 10, 2017, 05:17:12 PM
It goes up , only to fall down even deeper.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: vlom on April 10, 2017, 06:17:14 PM
if the price stays over the blue line then it will go up again fast i think. if not then we will see a slow downtrend.

https://s24.postimg.org/youqt5c2d/Screen_Shot_2017-04-10_at_20.14.51.png

come on LTC. i really would like to make some money. i bought under 4$.



Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 10, 2017, 07:28:25 PM
See my comment there:

https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/64kavb/be_very_careful_segwit_signaling_percentage/


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: BrainyNetwork on April 10, 2017, 10:53:11 PM
It's the classic mistake to be scared and sell at the worst possible moment. I thought about it too but I told myself there were way more chances that LTC gets back higher than dropping even more.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Weatherby on April 11, 2017, 05:30:56 AM
How do you even evaluate these things and the only thing i could see is that there was a increase in the price from the stable state and considering the rest of the coins where almost all of the coins had a good rally without any substantial reason i wish litecoin do have a good pump ,when do we see another round in your opinion.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: akbari1 on April 11, 2017, 05:36:51 AM
there is no reason to be afraid while there is stop limit order option in poloniex... ;D


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: metropolia on April 11, 2017, 07:00:47 AM
They said SW won't be used in LTC. Now altcoins with SegWit feature are hype a lot, LTC VTC do not signal it now. But Stratis the coin already implemented SegWit is still not pumping with Segwit hype. https://twitter.com/Yzord/status/851493979598315520


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: aoluain on April 11, 2017, 08:57:52 AM
Well FUCK I panic sold when I woke up at around 81 with like 10% loses, im fucking done and im not getting back in unless the price looks like a bargain.
Similar story here, panicked to quick. Segwit signaling will become the new market manipulation lever.

and as the Segwit signaling reached 71% yesterday the Litecoin price still
hovered between $8 and $9. so to me it looks like that little flutter by the miners
signaling possibly didnt have the effect they thought it might have.

Is it possible that people joined the rise at the start of the Segwit hype and have
since redirected their funds elsewhere? and Loosing interest and faith in the whole Segwit hype.....



Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: BitcoinHodler on April 11, 2017, 10:31:47 AM
Since when are you trading btw ?
Thought you never cared about buying/selling coins.
the pump and dump and seeing all the profit missed out on can drive any man or woman to do all sorts of crazy things ;)

Quote
I still don't get why Litecoin hashpower differs from bitcoin ? I mean all those big bitcoin miners could basically do whatever they want with litecoin, couln't they?
they can but it is all about the profit. when you get bitcoin block reward you are getting $15,250 to $17,000 money which is about 70% profit after the costs. and that reward also has a lot of potential of going up in USD value as we have been seeing for the past years.

but with litecoin you only get the reward * ~$4 which is a lot less. so it is not worth dedicating your hash power to it that much.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: boltz on April 11, 2017, 12:11:47 PM
Untill full implementantion of segwith and a couple of months to pass we ain't gonna see a rise on ltc imo .


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: shanem on April 11, 2017, 02:55:50 PM
Someone seems to be suppressing the price of LTC for some reasons. The SegWit percentage bar was supposed to reach 75% but some pools opposed it and the percentage dropped below 70% causing a huge dump in the price of the coin. It looks like someone does not want the price to rise and make LTC low to accumulate.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Ctstrphy on April 11, 2017, 04:06:38 PM
I'm one of the victims of this. Still my 2nd day of trade. Where do you get news like this?


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 11, 2017, 06:30:22 PM
BTC has been rising on declining volume. That indicates to me that this rise will not make it to a new ATH before it falters. I am sticking with my theory that BTC is range bound until Litecoin gets SegWit.

I think we are going to see another leg up on LTC as the SegWit signaling has climbed back up to 68%.

This pullback has brought us back to the uptrend line, which I expected we would come back to test one more time and especially given BTC is  up today.

Given the steepness of that uptrend line (on the right chart quoted below) we either have to fail and crash or start another leg up soon. Failing and crashing seems to not be very likely. So I say load up now on the LTC you want for the next run up. If that uptrend line holds, we have to be back above 0.009 within 6 days 0.011 within 2 weeks. So that is a minimum 40% increase in your BTC within 2 weeks if the uptrend line holds (which it has thus far throughout this crazy volatile rise).

Also today we broke out above that downward blue channel in the left chart quoted below!

Thoughts?

Not really:
We are rather in the blue channel right now :
https://www.tradingview.com/x/W8F30TvX/ (https://www.tradingview.com/x/W8F30TvX/)

So in terms of the right chart, we are still within an upward channel, barely.

Insane volatility due to the hashrate/signaling manipulation.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: OrangeP on April 12, 2017, 12:10:21 AM
BTC has been rising on declining volume. That indicates to me that this rise will not make it to a new ATH before it falters. I am sticking with my theory that BTC is range bound until Litecoin gets SegWit.

I think we are going to see another leg up on LTC as the SegWit signaling has climbed back up to 68%.

This pullback has brought us back to the uptrend line, which I expected we would come back to test one more time and especially given BTC is  up today.

Given the steepness of that uptrend line (on the right chart quoted below) we either have to fail and crash or start another leg up soon. Failing and crashing seems to not be very likely. So I say load up now on the LTC you want for the next run up. If that uptrend line holds, we have to be back above 0.009 within 6 days 0.011 within 2 weeks. So that is a minimum 40% increase in your BTC within 2 weeks if the uptrend line holds (which it has thus far throughout this crazy volatile rise).

Also today we broke out above that downward blue channel in the left chart quoted below!

Thoughts?


I tend to agree on your thought pattern. Except we are in for a longer term, because SegWit will not reach 75% on mining support. There is just too much hashing power on BTC miners that will gently block the LTC SegWit activation. They'd be stupid not to milk the cow. It's a flaw in the system, we cannot even blame the miners for doing that.

Once the user activated soft fork becomes reality, your scenario seems reasonable.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 12, 2017, 04:52:18 AM
Who ever doesn't on board the Litecoin rocket now, is going to be kicking themselves until they are butthurt:

https://i.imgur.com/WrQy7Uz.png (https://i.imgur.com/WrQy7Uz.png)


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: vlom on April 12, 2017, 06:18:22 AM
BW just signaled and LTC price hockey-sticking. Nope, just a coincidence. Not correlated at all! pic.twitter.com/ZPke6AjBDu
https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/852039230150688770/photo/1



Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: sapusapu on April 12, 2017, 07:00:09 AM
http://image.ibb.co/b0DmWQ/ltcc.png

What do you think about this? chinese mafia already filled bags and time for the segwit hype to continue?

Can we get LTC with segwit before BTC deploys UASF and gets segwit?

Millions still to be made with a possible LTC ATH or at least a big 200% pump?

Let's find out.
Nice chart
LTC in high price now but still hope will continue keep going for the higher price again


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 12, 2017, 07:08:40 AM
Who ever doesn't on board the Litecoin rocket now, is going to be kicking themselves until they are butthurt!

Well, nobody can say they didn't get good advice from this thread ;)

And sometimes perfect timing:

BW just signaled and LTC price hockey-sticking. Nope, just a coincidence. Not correlated at all!

https://i.imgur.com/qmNMxGu.jpg


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Kenny001 on April 12, 2017, 07:23:57 AM
Followed ur advice since the start and made couple of thousands already. Keep us informed.

Had luck i bought also at 3.7 and almost forget it.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: alienalf on April 12, 2017, 07:43:58 AM
Who ever doesn't on board the Litecoin rocket now, is going to be kicking themselves until they are butthurt:

https://i.imgur.com/WrQy7Uz.png (https://i.imgur.com/WrQy7Uz.png)

thanks for great prediction sir, do you have twitter account sir? :)


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: alienalf on April 12, 2017, 07:54:38 AM
sapusapu and imnotback,

Thanks for your great predictions. Now i have a question;

My average cost around 9$. What should i do? Just take profit or hodl? What would you do? Can i get your targets? Greetings.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Neotox on April 12, 2017, 08:03:57 AM
sapusapu and imnotback,

Thanks for your great predictions. Now i have a question;

My average cost around 9$. What should i do? Just take profit or hodl? What would you do? Can i get your targets? Greetings.
I think you should book the profit at current price, because after huge spike we may see some correction in price.You can buy later if price drop and if not then atleast you have made some profit for your investment.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Momoney786 on April 12, 2017, 08:06:04 AM
Who ever doesn't on board the Litecoin rocket now, is going to be kicking themselves until they are butthurt!

Well, nobody can say they didn't get good advice from this thread ;)

And sometimes perfect timing:

BW just signaled and LTC price hockey-sticking. Nope, just a coincidence. Not correlated at all!

https://i.imgur.com/qmNMxGu.jpg

thanks for all your input. im still new here but I took notice of your posts because i agreed with much of them.. you think a lot like i do so i started paying more attention to what you have to say... and through that you have helped me make some money. So now i feel obliged to take some time to thank you


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 12, 2017, 08:33:27 AM
https://www.litecoinpool.org/pools#segwit

Approximately 76.8% of the hashrate is now signaling for SegWit. BW.com just started signaling a few hours ago so the 24 hour average is rising and soon to surpass the 75% threshold for SegWit activation.

Litecoin will get Lightning Networks (LN) off chain scaling. Bitcoin will not. Thus Litecoin is highly undervalued at $12 and should soon make a new ATH above $50. I expect Litecoin above $100 in 2017.

42.2%F2Pool
9%LitecoinPool.org
8.4%HappyChina
6.4%BW.com
6%Le6oriAMKX...
2.6%Batpool
1.4%Coinotron
0.8%Give Me Coins


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 12, 2017, 09:16:16 AM
FYI, I took profits on this surge and wait to buy back again later, because I think actually attain activation is going to take at least 2 weeks and probably longer.

In the meantime, I have bought ETH. It is in a descending wedge pattern that is going to close within 24 hours. It looks like it has to break to the upside. Perhaps Ethereum will make some announcement on the Raiden (LN clone) upgrade coming. Looks like they will beat Litecoin to having a rudimentary beta of off chain scaling.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: alienalf on April 12, 2017, 09:20:28 AM
FYI, I took profits on this surge and wait to buy back again later, because I think actually attain activation is going to take at least 2 weeks and probably longer.

In the meantime, I have bought ETH. It is in a descending wedge pattern that is going to close within 24 hours. It looks like it has to break to the upside. Perhaps Ethereum will make some announcement on the Raiden (LN clone) upgrade coming. Looks like they will beat Litecoin to having a rudimentary beta of off chain scaling.

Thanks for the info. As i heard Ethereum announcement will be held in EEA and date will be mid-may.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Searing on April 12, 2017, 09:28:38 AM
https://www.litecoinpool.org/pools#segwit

Approximately 76.8% of the hashrate is now signaling for SegWit. BW.com just started signaling a few hours ago so the 24 hour average is rising and soon to surpass the 75% threshold for SegWit activation.

Litecoin will get Lightning Networks (LN) off chain scaling. Bitcoin will not. Thus Litecoin is highly undervalued at $12 and should soon make a new ATH above $50. I expect Litecoin above $100 in 2017.

42.2%F2Pool
9%LitecoinPool.org
8.4%HappyChina
6.4%BW.com
6%Le6oriAMKX...
2.6%Batpool
1.4%Coinotron
0.8%Give Me Coins

we will see ...I hope so..from what I understand for the segregated witness to 'take' ...by that I mean a firm YES, it has to stay above 75% for 2 weeks? (is that correct?)

So some pools could still play some games by jumping in and juming out to just manipulate price...hope I am wrong thou



Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: aoluain on April 12, 2017, 09:58:51 AM
https://www.litecoinpool.org/pools#segwit

Approximately 76.8% of the hashrate is now signaling for SegWit. BW.com just started signaling a few hours ago so the 24 hour average is rising and soon to surpass the 75% threshold for SegWit activation.

Litecoin will get Lightning Networks (LN) off chain scaling. Bitcoin will not. Thus Litecoin is highly undervalued at $12 and should soon make a new ATH above $50. I expect Litecoin above $100 in 2017.

42.2%F2Pool
9%LitecoinPool.org
8.4%HappyChina
6.4%BW.com
6%Le6oriAMKX...
2.6%Batpool
1.4%Coinotron
0.8%Give Me Coins

we will see ...I hope so..from what I understand for the segregated witness to 'take' ...by that I mean a firm YES, it has to stay above 75% for 2 weeks? (is that correct?)

So some pools could still play some games by jumping in and juming out to just manipulate price...hope I am wrong thou



Yes I believe its gonna have to be above 75% for 2 weeks
so there will definitely be plenty of time for the "teasing" game  ;D

Miner support on http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php is currently at 72.74%
thats the highest ivs seen it since I took an interest . . .


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: 501026666 on April 12, 2017, 10:21:57 AM
Wow  F2Pool get 42% LTC Hashrate..!
Chinese is good!


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: freebutcaged on April 12, 2017, 10:29:10 AM
For now LTC price is at $10.5 I don't know where'd you get your $12? looks like LTC is to heavy to pump it up like DASH and ETH, they were below $10 and suddenly sky rocketed, artificial pump.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 12, 2017, 10:57:16 AM
FYI, I took profits on this surge and wait to buy back again later, because I think actually attain activation is going to take at least 2 weeks and probably longer.

In the meantime, I have bought ETH. It is in a descending wedge pattern that is going to close within 24 hours. It looks like it has to break to the upside. Perhaps Ethereum will make some announcement on the Raiden (LN clone) upgrade coming. Looks like they will beat Litecoin to having a rudimentary beta of off chain scaling.

Insane volatility, but a great time to make money day trading. I sold ETH at a profit and reentered LTC before the wedge breakout!

https://i.imgur.com/gaVXhCd.png


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: BTCLovingDude on April 12, 2017, 11:08:01 AM
For now LTC price is at $10.5 I don't know where'd you get your $12? looks like LTC is to heavy to pump it up like DASH and ETH, they were below $10 and suddenly sky rocketed, artificial pump.

it is best to speculate altcoin prices ins bitcoin not in USD because most people are trading them versus bitcoin anyways and in the end there is only bitcoin that everyone withdrawas and holds.

and yes it is something similar to Dash and Eth but with some differences.
for example it is a pump and price can be considered inside a bubble.
but also the difference is that Dash and ETh pumped based on lies and not really anything useful in their coins while litecoin is going up because it is releasing a very game changing improvement called SegWit. and that has a big effect on everything.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 12, 2017, 11:43:59 AM
For now LTC price is at $10.5 I don't know where'd you get your $12? looks like LTC is to heavy to pump it up like DASH and ETH, they were below $10 and suddenly sky rocketed, artificial pump.

The price changes. When I wrote the post, the price was above $12. Now it is back to $11.71. I am using Poloniex prices.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: aoluain on April 12, 2017, 01:34:46 PM
Miner support on http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php is currently at 74.31%
I think its "hop on" time and round 2 may be starting in earnest,

are we all accounted for?


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 12, 2017, 01:49:20 PM
We've reached the 75% threshold for activation of SegWit on Litecoin!

https://web.archive.org/web/20170412134213/https://www.litecoinpool.org/pools

Just need to hold that for 2 weeks. It should climb to 77% if Jihan doesn't increase his hashrate somehow.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 12, 2017, 03:26:32 PM
I sold all my LTC and don't plan on re-entering because I think it is a manipulated clusterfuck (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1663070.msg18560633#msg18560633).


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: vlom on April 13, 2017, 09:51:11 AM
you sold and i bought back:
476/576 (82.64%) blocks signaling in the past 24 hours!
http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php

i think now it will stay above 75% and the price will really go up.

and i still did not touch my LTC-bag. im just trading some coins.

https://s16.postimg.org/nugnau0et/Screen_Shot_2017-04-13_at_11.51.38.png


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: legendbtc on April 13, 2017, 09:58:02 AM
sapusapu and imnotback,

Thanks for your great predictions. Now i have a question;

My average cost around 9$. What should i do? Just take profit or hodl? What would you do? Can i get your targets? Greetings.
I think you should book the profit at current price, because after huge spike we may see some correction in price.You can buy later if price drop and if not then atleast you have made some profit for your investment.

I hope it is not the right time to buy Litecoin because it is already closed 0.1 BTC, this is the all-time highest mark reached by Litecoin.
But my question it is the best time to invest in Litecoin because I don't want to lose my money?


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: vlom on April 13, 2017, 10:11:43 AM
this chart tells me to buy now.

https://s16.postimg.org/nugnau0et/Screen_Shot_2017-04-13_at_11.51.38.png

and sell @about 12.3 $ again.

trading BTC-LTC is not the right moment. BTC is to high.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Kenny001 on April 13, 2017, 10:28:09 AM
Indeed, buying some more. After segwit is activated the price will reach a new ath.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: novag on April 13, 2017, 10:39:00 AM
1-2 month could be 50$


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: WarrEagle on April 13, 2017, 02:30:08 PM
1-2 month could be 50$

That's a bit of a stretch, but hey, it's crypto. Anything is possible.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: aoluain on April 13, 2017, 04:51:56 PM
Yea anything is liable to happen,

I think we are in for still more manipulation and the related turbulance !

@vlom, did you buy at 11.1978?


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: muddafudda on April 14, 2017, 01:52:54 PM
Segwit support must be at or above 75% for a period of two weeks. Then another two weeks is given as a grace period to allow non-upgraded miners to upgrade. The incentives, after it becomes clear that the segwit has activated, are for the entire network, but in this case, it can be more complicated.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: alyssa85 on April 14, 2017, 02:22:04 PM
1-2 month could be 50$

I doubt it. More likely they've activate segwit and find no-one uses it and that will be the end of that.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: vlom on April 14, 2017, 02:25:41 PM
Yea anything is liable to happen,

I think we are in for still more manipulation and the related turbulance !

@vlom, did you buy at 11.1978?

yes i did. and i did not lost faith. at the moment i am buying and selling with 10% profit. and holding my bag.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: iamnotback on April 17, 2017, 06:49:52 AM
How do you like my perfect timing on LTC yet again! That is twice that I said emphatically "buy now" right before the blast off in the price.

That shows you how much BTC on this forum is influenced by me. I have a wide following in our community, when measured by wealth.

I have been able to decipher the long-term recursive fractal pattern and have been predicting the moves precisely and piling up the BTC profits going long, then short, then long, etc.. Note I will not tell you the exact price levels, nor my secret method.

LTC will pullback a bit here, but it is going much higher. Feel safe to enter at 0.01035. And make sure you buy LTC before April 19 when BTC will begin its decline by -30% due to the Scalepocalyspe (and possibly some other event involved ing BitFUnix or such).

Note LTC will make a peak price some where far above 0.0106, then it will decline back to long-term support. Then over the next 2 years LTC will make a ATH (as priced in BTC) which is means higher than 0.04. So holding LTC after the pullback will mean quadrupling your BTC over the next 2+ years.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: vlom on April 19, 2017, 04:17:43 PM
And make sure you buy LTC before April 19 when BTC will begin its decline by -30% due to the Scalepocalyspe (and possibly some other event involved ing BitFUnix or such).

nothing happened yet today. do you change your prediction?


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Instamined on April 19, 2017, 04:42:26 PM
And make sure you buy LTC before April 19 when BTC will begin its decline by -30% due to the Scalepocalyspe (and possibly some other event involved ing BitFUnix or such).

nothing happened yet today. do you change your prediction?

Well when he wrote that he was assuming that segwit would be implemented because the hashrate was around 83% or whatever.


Now, it might be the case that his previous analysis that litecoin would retest .008, .0075-.007 could be correct.


Without segwit it looks bad.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: vlom on April 19, 2017, 04:53:26 PM
there was a LTC flash-crash. i hope it goes up again. my buy orders were executed.

and yes, that why: 2348/3277 (71.65%) blocks signaling! 6048 out of 8064 (75%) blocks are required to activate.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Instamined on April 19, 2017, 04:57:35 PM
there was a LTC flash-crash. i hope it goes up again. my buy orders were executed.

and yes, that why: 2348/3277 (71.65%) blocks signaling! 6048 out of 8064 (75%) blocks are required to activate.

Long term I think buying here at .0085 might not be the worst thing you could do but short-term I don't personally see any upside until there is some positive news regarding segwit signaling or the UASF.

UASF might split the coin though, so the fundamental definition of what LiteCoin is might change in an instant, just like ETH and ETC.

As long as asic boost profiteers have a major incentive to block segwit on ltc but more importantly btc it's a risky bet... Long-Term Litecoin holders are still up over 100% from the pre-speculative price rise.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: vlom on April 19, 2017, 05:54:26 PM
i did not touch my bag of cheap LTC. i hoped i could sell it in a few days. and i won't do it now. because i dont won't to fill the orders of segway-stoping-gang.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Kenny001 on April 19, 2017, 06:15:46 PM
Indeed, is just keep holding my litecoins. It wil rise soon or later to a new ath.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: boltz on April 19, 2017, 06:30:27 PM
time will speak for sure


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: mrverax on April 20, 2017, 05:02:25 PM
How do you like my perfect timing ...
...before April 19 when BTC will begin its decline by -30% ...

Thumb on bitcoin's pulse? hardly... ;D


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: vlom on May 03, 2017, 06:28:53 PM
and round 3 just started. this time it will be huge. and i won't sell unter 50$ per LTC.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: malekbaba on May 03, 2017, 07:48:06 PM
Do you guys really think that LTC will toucg $40 USD soon ? Please tell me what you really thinks about LTC. I know crypto is unstable, uncertain. Anything may happen in LTC. I think we will see LTC @ BTC0.02



Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: vsyc on May 03, 2017, 08:10:25 PM
Do you guys really think that LTC will toucg $40 USD soon ? Please tell me what you really thinks about LTC. I know crypto is unstable, uncertain. Anything may happen in LTC. I think we will see LTC @ BTC0.02



LTC does, what BTC does want to do now. And IMHO, now it most undervalued. Today Coinbase happened, in a week SegWit, after or at the same time Lightning Network and so on. And what BTC? Nothing.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: ccs5t on May 03, 2017, 08:46:15 PM
This basically has nothing to do with a bull market. The fundamentals of LTC are very clear, anything under $50 is very undervalued.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Easy2Mine on May 03, 2017, 08:53:27 PM
LTC is a very solid and potential coin.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Mihaylovic on May 03, 2017, 09:01:24 PM
It is not about btc. All known altcoins are in race to raise one by one. Yesterday etc today ltc tomorrow maybe monero who knows. But in lıng term all will raise like hell


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: prabakharras on May 03, 2017, 11:56:36 PM
Trading at $20 https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/litecoin/usd
When it hits $50 and establishes a new baseline, the round 2 begins  ;D


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: mgmtbyjay on May 04, 2017, 08:05:18 AM
I believe it will rise to $40+ in upcoming weeks..


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Caladonian on May 04, 2017, 08:24:24 AM
well its better to hold and see how really far the price will go up as we seen the movement right now its keep moving up and no trace of falling down
time to buy still while the price is not that high yet or better to watch out and missed the ride,.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: Searing on May 04, 2017, 09:08:01 AM
well its better to hold and see how really far the price will go up as we seen the movement right now its keep moving up and no trace of falling down
time to buy still while the price is not that high yet or better to watch out and missed the ride,.


perhaps the 11,888 LTC I've mined and moved to BTC since Nov 2014..would have been better if I'd have held it till now (sob!)

anyway...20/20 hindsight works both ways...looking back on how sickly LTC was for last year or two....who'd a thunk it? :)

(So many boats missed since 2013...so many boats yet to miss by halving of LTC in 2019...stuff to do) :)



Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: aoluain on May 04, 2017, 09:50:51 AM
well its better to hold and see how really far the price will go up as we seen the movement right now its keep moving up and no trace of falling down
time to buy still while the price is not that high yet or better to watch out and missed the ride,.


perhaps the 11,888 LTC I've mined and moved to BTC since Nov 2014..would have been better if I'd have held it till now (sob!)

anyway...20/20 hindsight works both ways...looking back on how sickly LTC was for last year or two....who'd a thunk it? :)

(So many boats missed since 2013...so many boats yet to miss by halving of LTC in 2019...stuff to do) :)



well your 11.888 litecoin are still there just in a different format!  ;)
hindsight sure is 20/20 vision, selling buying back in, selling again and buying back again,
im sure there are a lot of people jumping their funds around as the value goes up and down!!

interesting times ad more to come too i think ;)


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: prabakharras on May 04, 2017, 09:58:07 AM
guys i was skeptical at first, perdon me please
https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/litecoin/usd
looking at momentum, i think the light of $45 per LTC looks possible again


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: malekbaba on May 04, 2017, 10:16:54 AM
Trading at $20 https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/litecoin/usd
When it hits $50 and establishes a new baseline, the round 2 begins  ;D

Do you guys really think that LTC will touch $50 ? soon or in 2019 ? If I am right, LTC was @ $4 even 3 weeks ago. Now it is already $22. I think this is the best LTC can do after too much hype and news, segwit, coinbase etc.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: vlom on May 04, 2017, 06:57:43 PM
do you remember what happened to Monero or Dash? why can't this happen with LTC? the price can go up really fast. and as long as there are buyers the price will go up.


Title: Re: LTC round 2 begins?
Post by: dennyd999 on May 08, 2017, 10:38:36 AM
FYI, I sold some STEEM and bought more LTC on this dip.

I will continue to buy LTC with every thing I can find. I have 1 BTC in another account which I will probably transfer to Poloniex so I can buy more LTC.

The volume on LTC is building. LTC has far too high of volume lately to stay so undervalued. The pressure is building. Also, fiat is coming into LTC via Coinbase, so that in my mind is enough to push LTC's price up regardless of SegWit activation.

Litecoin is being added to Coinbase.
https://status.coinbase.com/

My thesis of both the rise of price outpacing hashrate rise due to constrained supply of ASICs, thus driving miners to increasingly signal SegWit, plus my thesis that "It Is Just Time" and that Bitcoin can't rise (willl remain range bound < $1200) until Litecoin catches up to $30+, seems to be holding as truth.The huge volume on LTC tells me LTC has become the #1 altcoin, the pressure is building for another upward explosion in price, and it extremely undervalued. LTC is starting to average more volume than ETC.



meanwhile in Bitcoin land..

BU Support weakens, SegWit stronger (34/30)

https://coin.dance/blocks

It is impossible for it to reach 95%.

Jihan Wu will never allow Blockstream to exist on Bitcoin. And I already explained he has checkmated Blockstream with his Bitmain covert asciiboost hardware spread out all over in the wild, which he can activate at will without even implicating himself nor Bitmain. Perhaps you missed my elucidation on that.

Bottom line is Bitcoin won't get scaling. Litecoin is poised to get scaling.

maybe, but I wouldnt bet my house on that.

I would, if I had a house. Seriously. I am selling everything I can find to buy more LTC.


SegWit approval on LTC is down to 62%. What a show. miners must laughing their asses of.

http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php

Within the "current activation period", it has been steady at 64-65% since my post which quoted.

Your theory is that they (Jihan and co) will not try to block segwit on LTC but their actions speak the opposite, at least until now. My take is that they are playing with fire and might get burned sooner than they expect.

I also considered your proposition that some of the chinese miners are purposely delaying signalling segwit in order to accumulate at lowest prices possible and thus maximize their profit in the forth coming pump. Actually, I don't see why they wouldn't do this.

Jihan Wu is playing along the game. I never said he wasn't blocking SegWit on Litecoin. But as I wrote, there is 20% of hashrate that was temporarily pulled so the signaling reduced from ~70% to ~62% but since has climbed back to ~64% because more and more other miners are switching to signal SegWit because they are starting to understand the price dip is due to signaling.

As the base of signaling builds back to 69 - 70% again, that 20% hashrate can return and push it over 75%. That might BTCC who is moving that 20% hashrate to and from Ethereum (their GPUs mining farm).

Since BW has stated it will soon signal for SegWit, perhaps some of that hashrate that Jihan had there has been moved to Antpool. Jihan may have been using proxies to hide or influence the decision of other pools. Any way, as I stated before that the hashrate game is too obfuscated for me to determine definitively, but the trend of LTC is now undeniable.

All roads to scaling lead to LTC.

Get on the train or be left behind.



Re: Snapchat first investor thinks bitcoin could realistically be worth $500,000

According to Jeremy Liew, the first investor in Snapchat, and Blockchain CEO and cofounder Peter Smith. In a presentation sent to Business Insider, the duo laid out their case for why it's reasonable for bitcoin to explode to $500,000 by 2030.

A very interesting article at Business Insider that worth reading: http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-price-could-be-500000-by-2030-first-snapchat-investor-says-2017-3

I originally thought BTC might top out below $50k.

But now that I understand that BTC will be exclusively only the settlement layer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1857162.msg18526721#msg18526721) for the mass scaling which will take place in altcoins, I now think his analysis may be correct.

All the power broker settlement will likely to be on the Bitcoin blockchain which will be the bulk of the fungible capital generated by the masses on the altcoins as dictated by the power-law (Zipf's law) distribution of wealth. Thus Bitcoin is the reserve currency of all the altcoins.

This is why one must stay invested in this sector. Note I do think the altcoins that scale up the masses will see faster appreciation than BTC in spurts, so that is one of way of increasing one's BTC if you are expert at speculation. Otherwise buy and hodl BTC.


iamnotback Maaan thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!

Just because of your post I was allin in LTC since 0.09

I was shorted few times and suddenly losed a half of my LTC, but I still make a great profit!

Thank you again.. I am in debt :)
I miss your post Bro

From now I am LTC long.

I hope it correct..

Sad that you are not here anymore :(