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Hindus believe cow as their sacred animal.Most of them dont eat it and they think killing cow as a sin.But what the problem is,in india,some hindus call themselves as cowrakshaks,meaning saviors of cow and they start attacking and even killing other people if found eating beef or carrying beef with them.Either you dont kill cow,otherwise you will be killed.Its their slogan.

India is a very contradictory country. Among the population of India is really a common respect for the cows, but this does not prevent India to take fifth place in the world for beef production. These are the miracles there are in this country.

I think i saw an article where cow vigilantes attacked a muslim man for transporting cows. The mob beat up the muslim man to death.In the course of the attack six other people were injured and now the police are saying both sides are to be blamed for the whole fiasco, Whats wrong with buying and transporting cows. They are preparing to charge the survivors of the attack with smuggling.

Which is one of the reasons why i see India as a third world country. I respect almost everyone's believe, but to kill other people because you don't agree with them is just plain idiotic.

It's abysmal to kill a guy just because he is selling beef.

Is this really true for all hindus? I guess that there are only few who do this act, maybe overpowering the beliefs in a new way.
Didn't know that a cow's life is more precious than with a man  ???.

I also heard that in India the cow is a sacred animal. I've read the news saying that if they see a cow they would bow down. Maybe so love them and they worship cows, they were angry to see the animals they consider sacred slaughtered and eaten. But because the majority of people in the world eat the cows, they should accept reality and be tolerant. It is hard to be certain, but killing is also not a good thing.

From what I have read on this, this is a result of a regulatory change pushed by the new chief minister in a fairly right wing administration. The right would like to see beef slaughtering completely banned, as cows are sacred to the religious right in India. This has resulted in a campaign of small cuts; the regulatory bar is being raised to price many meat producers out of the market. This is overwhelmingly affecting Muslims, as they do eat beef, and are one of the few over there that would process an edible cow carcass (non edible is a completely different discussion). A lot of vigilantism has cropped up; and is being used to reinforce caste. Because only the lower castes would touch a dead cow. So easy to mob and harass these guys, who are just doing a pretty shitty job to get paid.

If you are living in a country, then you should obey the local laws. Cow slaughter is illegal in India, and despite that members of the minority community perform it and trade with raw beef. If you don't obey the laws, then you have only yourself to blame.

Such law or tradition can be strange for us, but it's their culture, their law.
If you go to other country, you should follow laws, culture and tradition of this country.
We, people from the West, are often arrogant and feel that we know the best, and that all other people in the world should follow us.
It will never work.
If you don't respect others, others will not respect you, your culture, tradition etc
If I knew that cow is holy animal in India, I will not touch this animal, because of my respect toward this people.

 

I remember long time ago in the times of Fallout 1 and 2 (awesome computer games BTW) there were huge problems with releasing these games in India.
All because there were brahmins in that games - a 2 headed mutated cows and player might kill them if he/she wanted to.
Apparently that drama was even live in Fallout 3 times, read this: http://kotaku.com/5068797/is-this-why-fallout-3-wont-be-released-in-india (http://kotaku.com/5068797/is-this-why-fallout-3-wont-be-released-in-india)

Cow slaughter is not illegal all over india and it is illegal in only a few states.So,please dont give false information.

That's fucked up.
So if they had to choose between saving a cow or saving a person, they would save the cow? Rofl.

I agree, it is illegal, but it's also illegal to murder someone like those "cow saviors" are threatening to do. I suspect that even in India a human life has greater value than that of a cow.
The punishment for doing something illegal is a fine or a jail, not being slaughtered by angry mob, which can happen in third world countries ruled by savages. We'll just have to wait until those crazy people kill someone for eating a burger and see what the government does about it.

Your post reads like something straight out of Marco Polo (the 13th century trader) diary. I have not heard about any foreigner in recent years being killed for buying beef in India. Respecting customs is one thing, killing everybody who doesn share them is altogether different. India is not Saudi Arabia, you wont get flogged for eating "haram" food on the street.

What kind of problem do you have with Hindus, friend?

Why do vegans always have to shove it to your faces? I mean cant you eat grass, be happy, and let me eat meat if I wish?
Eat healthy, eat meat also if you want, eat plenty of veggies, fruits and everything. Healthy is in diversing meals, and not shove yourself with junk food and candy.

Why is that? whether it is a tradition or a cow may indeed very protected, so alarmingly gravely threatened.

Oh, you're talking about the recent ban on beef. This came into existence recently as for years beef was considered a food here and not many had an issue. I don't believe in killing animals but since I have to eaten non-veg, I would be considered a hypocrite if I comment on this decision. I believe that all animals have to be treated equally and not consider one as a God and the other one as dirt. Now they are trying to make the entire country a vegetarian and banning meat too.

Just think. If someone would complete the technology process behind this, "This scientist re-wires frogs to grow extra limbs. Could it work in humans?, (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1729886.msg17310118#msg17310118)" then we could eat the cows without killing them, one leg at a time. The cowrakshaks wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

 ;D

For them cow is sacred animal and must be protected at any cost and they willing to defend their faith no matter what, but I think this is a bit ironic, you killed or hurt some one just because the person didn't have the same belief, I dont think any religion teach us to kill or to hurt someone

that they are a bunch of rapist. how you dont know? in india there is no tv?
even worst then mudslimes. (holy cow how is that even possible?)

http://www.loupiote.com/photos_m/14842322006-severed-cow-heads-meat-market-india.jpg

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^^^^ The first picture is from the Indian state of Meghalaya, where Christians and Muslims make up close to 90% of the population. Also, the state is located very close to Bangladesh, which is the "beef capital" of Asia.

It is a simple matter and the best thing to do if you are a beef eater then you must stay away from India to avoid being killed. The presence of extremist in India are just taking their faith in an extreme level which is also not good. If we are visiting that place we must at all cost respect their cultures and respect their sacred animals to honor their culture and to protect our lives at the same time. Thus that is a win-win solution but if you are not sure and afraid of those realities in India then better to stay away from that country.

Don't be so afraid. Even in the hard-core Hindu states such as Uttar Pradesh and Haryana, buffalo meat is readily available in the Muslim areas. And in moderate states such as Maharashtra and Telengana, you can get cow-meat without much trouble (although it is not 100% legal). And cow meat is legal and easily available in at least half of the Indian states, including Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Meghalaya, West Bengal, Mizoram, Nagaland, Jammu Kashmir, Sikkim.etc.

I noticed your handle. Are you an executive of Tyson Foods?    8)

I laughed ass off, BAD, thank you good sir  ;D

Welcome.      8)

I think majority of the Indian population are Hindu and that's the reason why the nation has regulations that gives importance to animals much than the human beings, though animals weree given by God to fulfill the humans needs.

I can give you assurance that no one will harm you if you eat beef in states such as West Bengal, Kerala, and Meghalaya. Just avoid doing so in the cow-belt states (Uttar Pradesh, Haryana, Gujarat, Rajasthan.etc).

I agree. Although it's ridiculous things that people in india believe, but do what


Oh I love to eat beef: Cow, pig, rabbit, wild boar, Goat, chicken, duck. Even with all these things you said would still continue to eat beef

There is a lack of uniformity among State laws governing cattle slaughter. Most States prohibit the slaughter of cows of all ages. However, Assam and West Bengal permit the slaughter of cows of over the ages of 10 and 14 years, respectively. Most States prohibit the slaughter of calves, whether male or female.
 
Still makes no sense killing people for eating/killing cows.

Those are isolated incidents. During the last three decades, less than 10 people have been killed in India for cow-slaughter. The number of Hindus killed by Muslims in Bangladesh during the same period is almost 10,000 times that number, but no one mentions about it. The Indian media is under the control of evangelical christian cabals, and whenever they get a chance to tarnish the Hindu majority, they make the maximum use out of it.

Probably all the inhabitants of Europe are in danger, because they consider it to be more useful meat than pork. Therefore, meat of cattle is very popular there. But if the Hindus kill for this, then you need to be careful. Muslims kill those who eat pork, and the Indians of those who kill the cow.

If a Muslim woman got together with an Indian man, would they become vegetarians?

 :D

I do think that they believe in that, but some of them are not. They believe in saving the cows so we should just respect their beliefs. There are other things that you could get cow beef or something.

I think that definitely killed or kill living beings will die either death what it will be.

if I slaughter a cow is kosher I would eat it if I do not kill her because it's going to eat unclean.

When a Muslim woman marries a Hindu man, in 90% of the cases, the male converts to Islam. On the other hand, if a Muslim man marries a Hindu woman, then in 99.99% of the cases, the Hindu female converts to Islam. So it is obvious. The vegetarian starts eating beef after marrying a Muslim.

Them that there is nothing more to talk about in the family? Who cares what faith? I'm an atheist but Buddhism and Hinduism do. And cows in India someone kills you? Only the Muslims? In stores probably also sell beef. What are Muslims too?

Probably in old times in the time of hunger cows were more important than people. The issues probably was that people can t eat grass. From other side from cow s milk a lot of products can be done and it was much more profitable to have the cow, rather than killing it. Obviously when there were too much of people and very few of cows, cow life cost was higher. Maybe it s still higher in some regions.

If you're in another country, respect the culture.

The cow in India is considered a sacred animal. The cow to Hindus is equivalent to the status of the mother, because this animal has such maternal qualities as humility, kindness, wisdom and peace.
There are several legends that tell about how a cow became a sacred animal of the Hindus. And they are all very interesting.
According to Hindu mythology, the Hindu, to after death get to heaven, you must cross the river. To make it possible only with the help of the cow, holding its tail.
The Puranas (ancient sacred text of Hinduism) says that the Gods, creating the ocean, took from him a cow Kamdhenu that could grant any wish. Hindus believe that each cow is Kamdhenu and can also fulfill human desires, if it is to love and honor.
The cow is a wet nurse because milk and all dairy products are very beneficial for human health.

A lot of people eat beef in India, and it is not just limited to the Muslims. Beef is like staple dish for the Christians, who form the majority in states such as Kerala, Meghalaya, Mizoram, and Nagaland. Also, a lot of Hindus (especially the lower castes) eat beef outside the cow-belt states. And even some of the cow-belt Hindus eat beef, once they are out of India.

Hindus don't eat beef in nearly all cases.  It's other people who eat beef, because Indians aren't all the same group of people.  So they don't contradict themselves at all really.

Ridiculous, these are no better than suicide bombers. Seriously. a cow's life is much more valuable than a human's? So, they stop traffic flow when cows cross the street? These people seem to have black and white view of life. Can't they understand that other people don't subscribe to these beliefs?

Hopefully this sort of intolerance will stop. It seems this have some sort of nationalist tinge to it.


I guess this would really limit what Muslims and other minorities there can eat. Do they even have Mc Donald's there serving Big Macs?

Same thing that other religious people cant force hindus to eat beef,just like that hindus cant force people of other religion not to eat beef.Every one has their own right to decide what to eat and what not to eat.

I do not think that it is necessary to talk about cosmic discoveries and religion at the same time. Once the world sees the aliens, the church will lose completely.

In hindu religion the cow is accept as mother animal because during the born of a baby first of all the cow milk dopped  in baby mouth and after some days her mother used to breastfed to baby so it is assumed that cow is correlate with mother and her protection is our duty.hence never kill cow animalbut save her .

We don't even need to discover sentient life for that to happen. Even a single-celled organism found in any moon in the solar system should be enough to shatter the delusion for us human snowflakes who believe the universe revolves around us.

I wonder what sort of mental gymnastics they'll have to come up with to avoid facing that. Maybe "They are just like the animals made for us, just on a different planet,"? Or "These are the work of the devil/shaitan/flying spaghetti monster/etc to lead us astray. Have faith!"?

This is understandable, but how do you know that India is one of the leading places in the world for the production of beef? Who kill and cut up cows?

Well it seems that you just have to follow tradition if ever you come to their place or their territory to avoid conflict and harm. Though cows are considered consumable meat, of course we have to respect other people's traditions. I find iy weird though that they value cows lives more than humans but its their belief so we just have to respect that and avoid doing it in their place

I'm generally against killing animals for meat. I am a supporter of vegetarianism, but what can be demanded from people in other countries even if in India they kill cows for meat.

They don't produce beef from cows in North India. In North India, beef is derived from buffalo meat. Buffalo holds no significance in the Hindu religion, and therefore there is no ban on the slaughter of that species.

Of course these are two different creatures and there will be no problems if you eat a buffalo. But I think that in extreme cases you need to know about such things if you are going to India.

If you are visiting India for a short duration, then it will be better to avoid beef altogether (both cow and buffalo meat). If you are that determined to have beef, then make some Muslim or Christian friends, and ask them to refer restaurants where buffalo meat is available.

A little more and people who are in Hinduism will be equated with Muslims. Some because of the pigs want to kill others, because they eat pork, and others will kill because of the cow. Lord, where we are going.

Sounds like a war starter between Muzzies and Hindus.

Muslims behead cows in the streets and eat them while they celebrate the act. That must be a very traumatic event for Indians seeing their god-animal being decapitated and eaten.  8) And they fkn celebrate while doing so.

Not acceptable in any way.  ;D

No Muslim believes this, it is a made of Hindus.What Allah has created is for the benefit of human beings. And as a sacrifice, cattle are given more importance.
So there is no basis for killing people if they kill cow.

Hindus are the mother of the cow, then what is the shoes made of cow's skin?

Why kill someone because he has killed a cow, that's very stupid, if the cos is a god why doesn't it avenge itself from being slaughtered, whatever god tells another to avenge it is a toothless god.

Because the cow is a merciful god ;D It doesn't feel the need for vengeance, but it's lowly human acolytes and zealots are not on this high level of thinking yet as it seems.

Can you imagine these people here in the west attacking cattle farms and meet processing plants? Wonder if they'd go as far as suicide bombing attacks in the name of the cow god.

I think cattle slaughter is a very brutal behavior, cows are just like we are living beings, so we have to respect animals as we want to respect, slaughtering behavior is deeply blamed,And ti is not a revenge but a very painful doom from the creator

These are normal food chain relations. We breed cattle so we have meat to serve on the table. There's nothing about respect here. Beef is a good nutritious meat nothing personal or ideological has any place in this whole deal.

When you go out in the wild and get eaten by a pack of hungry wolves it's only your fault. They didn't disrespect you, they were just hungry and ate you, no need to complicate things.

However, you missed a very important detail. Predators don't grow animals then to eat them. There are many cases when predators feed calves their victims and don't eat them. It sounds funny, but animals are much more humane than humans.

I think we should agree to disagree on that one. If we dive into it we'll be opening a whole new subject and a very complicated one at that, cause yes these animals are grown by humans to be slaughtered and eaten, but they also only exist on this world because of humans. It's a weird topic whether it's better to have been born only to be killed or to have never been born at all. I do agree however that humans are capable of unimaginable atrocities which you won't see in the animal kingdom but we're also capable of the most selfless acts of love and loyalty too. The perks and drawbacks of having sentient minds.

just like OP said that actually this is teachings of certain religious heritage that they consider the cow as holly animal and for those who kill them the people will believe it's just like killing human however in India there is an extreme actions that they had drink cow urine because they believe Will bring good luck for them

Hah! Weird that Hinduism shares a common trait with Islam on this. The difference being that Islam forbids people from eating pork, because pigs are unclean or something. Would be funny if in the end it turns out that this was a clever ploy for protecting the secret holy animal of Islam - the pig.

Being a Hindu, I have to disagree with you on this. Pork is forbidden in Islam, because they regard pig as unclean. The Muslims hate pig. On the other hand, the Hindus revere cow as a holy animal. That is why the refrain from killing it. Both these aspects are diagonally opposite to each other.

Muslims are forbidden to eat pork, but some eat it. Not once saw it. Especially in the army, in College.. One friend said ...Allah is one and we are many, it's hard to follow -- Took in the morning a dish of pork and say... this beef..

Human beings ought to know that they are the offspring of God the creators of heaven and earth. Why is this great inhuman of men to his fellow men created in the image of God? Cow was among the animals made for human consumption any attempt to see it otherwise is contradicting nature especially if it got to the extent of killing human for it.

Lmaooo ;D How can a cow be a sacred deity ???

I wish these Indian guys could pay a visit to "Nusret" Saltbae in Dubai to get the real taste of beep :D :D :D

None of this would happen if people stopped believing in everything they hear or read, and actually start thinking for themselves. Also, I wish they'd pay more attention to facts rather than fiction.
Only science can save this world and only science can destroy it.

Eugenics is the only logical answer if we want to create peace for this world. Get rid of those who are disrupting it.

For me this is absolutely insane. Im so sorry for my term but its like putting human level as a cow is so unjust. Its like your treating others as a cow and treating cow as a human being. Im not sure what behind this but I just want to share the real thing here. Most people might think that it is wrong given the fact that they are believing in something but if its against the human race you need to think it a thousand times. Every person has a goal and dreams that they want to achieve and buy simple dealing with this everything will end up to nothing. World government should consider this because human race is invloved. Its so pity seeing those people killing the people for this reason. As long as we are breathing there are lots of reason why to live and not only loving a cow. And besides what with the cow, why it became sacred?

I heard about hindian`s belief in cow`s sacred, but never heard about cowrankshaks. You know, world is big place, people going crazy about what they consider sacred. Thank you for this information, i will not eat beef in India).

Well as much as it is odd to us, from other parts of world, maybe some our customs are odd to them. We can not judge or tell it is wrong or right, it is their culture and people and they should decide what to do, and how to do it. And as far as tourists are concerned, and fear if they will be killed, one advice... if  you go to India do not eat any cow meat :D . I think we can all limit our food for few days :D .

No need to worry. Buffalo meat is not banned in India. Only the beef, which is sourced from cows is banned. But then, if you go to the conservative states such as Uttar Pradesh and Haryana, it may be advisable to stay away from all types of beef.

The fact is that it is better not to try fate in India to look for conservative and quiet areas. In general, do not even think about beef in India and then it will be possible to be 100% sure that it will survive.

Somehow everything in the world is strange. Some can kill for the fact that someone ate a cow and it happens This is all because the cow for them is a deity. And others will be killed for eating a pig and doing it because the pig for them is an unclean animal. Why no one can accept the fact that all people are different and their Faith and their traditions are also very different.

You are just over-hyping the whole issue. I am living in a state where beef is readily available and openly sold in the streets (although as a religious Hindu I refrain from consuming it). Beef is not a banned item in 80% of the Indian states.

If you go to travel to India, you need to know exactly where I can go to the states and eat beef, otherwise you can really stay without a head. Who knows who you will be talking to and who will be friends next door. Although I also think that killing or because someone is eating beef is savagery.

That's a totally deceiving belief, due to that cow is one of the animals created by God.
Now go back to the main topic, here in my country there are some provinces here that once you kill a cow
You will be imprison in jail base to their laws.

all countries have different laws and as a human being we need to respect each others, don't need to judge each others, if you don't live in india you don't need to worry when you eat beef, but when you live there and you are not hindhunist, you need to respect in order not to be killed.

We had this topic way back when I was still in high school. Our instructor told us that even a cow's sh* is holy and they even prayed in front of it which is so gross for some people but for them it is holy.

Every religion has its taboos. Similarly, every culture has its own customs and traditions. If you go to an Arab country such as Saudi Arabia or Qatar, you will get jailed if you ask for bacon in a restaurant. Let the Indians practice their customs in their own country. At least they are not trying to impose a beef ban in the United States or the European Union.

That is absurd. Killing humans cause of cow? I wonder why some humans will drop themselves so low to the point of worshipping a lower animal and even killing for it. Everyone with their own belief though, but they shouldn't attack people just because they ain't in the same belief circus. Nevertheless, does this happen in all parts of India or just some parts? Beef is not even one of the best meat to eat on my list anyway, they can keep their beef to themselves when I visit.

No matter how absurd it all seemed, but this reality found the modern world. I, too, are shocked by what can happen to a person, Only for the fact that he is eating beef. I have never heard such senility before. Such a feeling that there are a number of even medieval and laws.

:) ya, we respect each other. cause difference is beautiful.

Yes I heard of this story about the worshipping of cows and cows are sacred animals.  They can roam the cities and even the churches.  They have high respect with these animals.  We cannot argue with their beliefs, ideals, religion, culture or customs, it's been there before we are born.  But it would be heart breaking if you accidentally killed a cow and you will be killed because of it.

During the past 10 years, less than a dozen people have been killed in India for cow-slaughter. This is despite the fact that cow slaughter is openly carried out in states such as Meghalaya and Kerala. These incidents are very isolated, but the media going ballistic over it.

I accept that everyone must obey to law in the country but when did this law come.. After Modi became prime minister of india just because he is a hindu its not fare to bring the law against beef. India is a democratic country and every human being has there freedom to eat and drink what they wish.. No one can stop this.

I really do not think that these sort of events are created by the media,i have seen reports that poor people have being killed for having possession of meat and that too they killed because they have a doubt that he is having possession of beef,which is really crazy,these sort of hooligans must be put to jail and the current government is a farce .

We cannot judge them since their government, their customs or culture prohibits killing cow because cow for them are sacred animals.  But their government should be accurate or fair on these issue.  It is not right to punished a person without accurate evidence.  There should be trial for those cases so as not to kill innocent. 

Religious riots are very common in India, especially between the majority Hindus and the minority Muslims. Most of the times, beef is a provocation. The Muslims sometimes try to provoke the Hindus by throwing beef over the Hindu temples and other places of worship. This in turn, guarantees a very violent retaliation by the Hindus (in regions where they form the majority).

until there will be slotherhouses there will be no peace on world, more killing = less peace

despite endavours for peace the peace will never come, we must eradicate all the slotherhouses, or at least stop killing cows...

judging each other will never stop cause we think that we 're right, religion / country even ethnic has their own laws, if we have no business or just wanna be saved, just stay away and follow the laws where you are. respect   

Hindus can refrain from killing cows and ban cow-slaughter in areas where they are a majority (I am a Hindu myself). But it is not practical to impose our views on others, especially those who follow a different religion.

Humans are designed to function by eating animals etc.
Why is because we REQUIRE vast large amounts of energy for our brains and then body to function.
It's about the energy consumption.
If we were not eating meat we wouldn't even be here.. it's evolution.
Like a big fish eating a smaller one and so on..

But yeah it's about a serving of energy we need for consumption to function.
Things were not always like they are today with increased food supplies.
Famine was common in old times too.
Even with eating meat !

It's simply not possible for humans to function and thrive by eating "wild edibles"
Wandering around eating grass isn't going to do it guys.
We are not cows with two stomachs and no obligation but to sit in a pasture eating all day.

But i am eating Pepperoni pizza right now.
Point being is i am not a fan of steaks but beef does taste good.
I eat little meat ..on purpose.
I don't like the idea of having to kill animals to eat.
The only thing i can do though is limit my consumption of meat then.
Or better yet in our modern life i simply consume by products that do not require killing.
I am in fact right now drinking a glass of milk and i like the idea that it didn't have to die for me to get it.

But religious wacko's like that are a lot like Muslim extremists.
Killing cows is illegal in some states but murder is illegal in ALL OF THEM !
Respect things ?
Well.. the religious people need to respect the laws of the land.

Vegans need to clue in and realize that we exist because of our alternative energy consumption system.
We are all here right now because evolution made our biology capable of taking the stored energy stored in animals and allowing us to consume it as ready made packages of energy.
Which we NEED a lot of in order to continue living.

It's life..

one more thing, we are souls, do you think animals don't have souls?
Every life is precious, but human form is the best only because we can realize God, if not, we are juast like animals, satisfying our senses...


And why of all animals, cows?  Because cow is on top of the animal kingdom, but mostly because God's favourite creatures/animals are cows, you can live your whole life with only one cow and one bull, and you're set up for life...

In every religion out there, in all the sacred books it is clearly written that God created the animals to be in service for the humans who are the leaders in this earth. What this hindus do, killing someone just for eating beef or cow meat is totally bullshit. Even in a very strict religion like Islam, if someone eats pork which is forbidden to do, they don't kill him or her but just give them a small punishment. Ignorance is not a bliss and I am shocked how in the world Indians are called good engineers or good software developers after doing this kind of bullshit.

In my country when the movie "Natale in India" meaning Christmas in India came out I laugh out very hard at this part you see in the trailer. This rapper try to close in a aggressive way his performance and look what happens in the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itvhEZvYxTQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itvhEZvYxTQ)

Pretty absurd by today's standards but i think there still are some communities around the world who still havr these kinds of beliefs and it sometimes would be fatal if you don't respect their traditions. Though this might be hatd for us to understand, i think there's nithing wrong with just letting these people amd their beliefs be. If you happen to wander in their territories, be nice to the cows

It is very sad that a person is beaten and sometimes killed just because he is eating beef or carrying beef in the so called secular state "INDIA".
I respect the religious beliefs of Hindus but one should impose there religion on others.

Maybe their government should have a law on who to beat or punished.  If he is not Hindu then that person can eat beef or carry a beef if he wants.  But if he is Hindu and do these maybe he must put into interrogation whether or not he bought it or just carry it.  We cannot criticize them because they are like that, it has been there customs and part of their culture.  Maybe Indians who are Hindu should abide their law.

There isn't any law like that, because they call their country a secular state, and a secular state is totally neutral in religions matters and doesn't support any religion. The extremist hindus are doing such inhuman activities there, many of them are well educated and knows the rights of others.

Neutral in religious matters and doesn't support any religion..??

I guess you don't know anything about India. Cow vigilantism and beef ban are one of those topics which can happen only India.
And by the way just Google Indian reservation system, you'll come to know how politicians​ used religion and caste as a vote bank in India.

Perhaps they should behave like the Muslims of Pakistan, who abduct and rape Hindu/Christian women whenever they get a chance. Being a Muslim in India is much better than being a Hindu either in Pakistan or Bangladesh.

I respect other people's belief but I think it's really ridiculous to kill a man just because he is selling a cow? also why don't just banned the cow in specific place(india) where hindus people is having a war.

Yeah, the current BJP government is being too hypocritical about beef. The religious or Hindutva agenda behind beef ban is clearly evident. Mahatma Gandhi on cow slaughter:


Banning beef in a secular country like India on religious grounds just puts a huge question mark on secularism.

I am Hindu and I do eat beef. The government wouldn't even dare think about putting a beef ban in Kerala.

http://i63.tinypic.com/etduhe.jpg

Cows, pigs, sheep are all sorts of animals, but they are turned into sausage, shoes, bags, fur coats and so on. And few people wonder what kind of markup people have the right to do it.

Beasts are also a gift from God.

I'm against killing animals. Except when the animal is hurt and suffering .. Then, probably, it is better to put it to sleep .. Although, this is also a difficult question ..

Oh... not again. If you don't want to eat meat then don't do it. But you can't dictate what the others want to eat. I am a practicing Hindu, and I do eat meat (although I refrain from consuming beef for religious reasons). Food is a basic necessity and you can't put morality and ethics before a necessity.


There are more than 150 million Dalit Hindus in India, and almost all of them eat beef. No one is having a problem with that.

Pass that religion, It's good for cows. That's it. More rights neeeded for animals they don't differ from us.

Yes basically it is because of the tradition or beliefs of their religion.  So if you are a member of that religion then you should obey it.  If you do not like that and you want to taste a beef, then go out of that religion, simple as that.  Though of course, they are also created by God and they have rights.  The government should of course do something for those who will be accused of that law.  No one should be killed for killing a cow unless he is a Hindu.

My grandpa,grandma,father,mother and 2 uncles killed many cows and nothing didnt happened.We just eated good meat and everybody is still alive after many years.

I respect any religion and its believing.Moreover I admire Indians loyalty and the fact that the don't eats cows,but our freedom stops where the freedom of others begins.The fact that they killing people because they have killed cows is not just funny and dramatic it's also ironic and violates the human rights.You can not force others on what they will believe and how they will act.It is reminds me the terrorists of I.S.I.S.  >:( >:(

Being an Indonesian Hindu, I am surprised at these killings. In Indonesia, we don't normally consider cows as holy animals. A lot many of the Hindus do eat beef in Indonesia, although a few may abstain from it.

I am also a Hindu and I am from Guyana. Here, beef is one of the staple food items. And only a very few Hindus refuse to eat it. I love beef and dishes made out of beef are my favorite.

It's literally the other way in India. Cow is a holy animal and majority of Hindus raise it and love it as a God. Milk and dairy products are food for all of Indians than beef. It's different from meat and majority of people don't like beef.

Guyanese Hindus came from India during the 19th century. But over the years, the orthodox traditions broke down, and people started eating beef.

If that is actually the case of anybody who kills a cow should be killed then nobody would exist in the world of today. Several religious organizations will eventually turn us to vegetarians because the Muslims will tell us not to eat pork, this one now saying we should eat cow maybe we will start eating elephants I am sure one group will still come out to say we shouldn't do that eat that one too.

Seems like a lot of these incidents are exaggerated by the media. At least in one incident, I read that the man who got lynched was targeted by the mob after he tried to rape a child.

In the rest of the world their god is killed always but they don't do anything lol.

And that affects your lifestyle? No? So just don't even mind. Even if they are a third world country is better to respect them.

In Africa and South-east Asia, they used to hunt elephants and then eat them. But the practise has stopped, thanks to the colonialists banning elephant meat. The westerners have banned several types of meat, and they still complain when they can't get beef in North India.

I am really shocked to know that indians are worshipping an animal, don't get me wrong i respect their religion and all, but don't they even think for a minute that worshipping an animal is unecessary, it's over exaggerating. For me personally i don't worship any living being specially animals that serve as a livestock to human beings. I think it is more reasonable to worship a statue that resembles a god, than to make a mindless animal a worshiping tool for just an imaginary belief.

All of the religious stuff are total bullshit for me. People say that this my belief and you must respect my belief but nobody have to respect someone's belief because I dont see any logical point to respect anybody who believes cows are sacred. By the way, Beef is more delicious than any other meat . I recommend it to Hindus.

A lot of religions around the world worship nature and the animals. For example, the Yazidis worship peacocks, and the Buddhists worship tigers. Cows are worshiped not just by the Hindus, but also by the Zoroastrians. In the ancient Greek and Egyptian religion also, cow was considered as a holy animal.

I dont understand this kind of logic if it's a sin to kill a cow then why do they kill pigs, chicken and fish? If it's a sin to kill one animal then why do they other types of animal? This is nothing but Hypocrisy saving only one animal but killing others is nothing but self righteousness. Like in the animal kingdom they hunt and eat to survive. We are most likely the same because we are top of the food chain and we are also predators like lion and wolves, we eat to gain nutrients from it and it also helps bulk our body and build muscles. We eat meat because its necessary for daily health and growth.

It's important to respect culture and traditions, but killing a person by a mob is really sad. There was an uproar about a Chinese town that holds dog meat festival. It makes me cringe that someone could eat dog meat, but that's how world is. It is difficult to justify consuming any kind of animal. I can never imagine eating a primate meat, but many people do eat primates in Africa. Cows are sacred animals for Hindus, let them be. Jews and Muslims do not consume pork (I think), well good for me, I get to consume cheaper bacon. :)

The lack of respect for the traditions resulted in these tragic events. It was known that beef is a forbidden item in many of the North Indian states. Then why these people (Muslims and Christians) want to consume it? If they want to consume beef, then why can't they travel to Andhra Pradesh or Maharashtra?

I agree with you.  It is about respecting the culture and traditions of one place, tribes, or certain religion.  If we are Hindu and it forbids for us to eat beef, then why don't change your religion so you could freely eat it.  But I am sure that these Hindus knows these tradition of them.  Besides, people are hungry and will do anything just to survive even eating a poisonous puffer fish.  It is really important to respect the culture you are in.

In India there is still a caste system in society. This can lead to the respect of traditions. It provokes hostility on the subconscious level. The neglect of culture is just an excuse, and the roots of conflict are different. Muslims in General are not inclined to reckon with other people's customs.

I didnt know they rank 5th in beef production. These has something to do with their religion. I am very respectful of people's religious belief and i know they have  their personal reason for sparing and defending cows so much. But am just wondering. If cows are more precious than human beings, i wonder what will happen if they continue on killing one another in defense for cows. And to think that India is one of the poorest countries in the world. If they run out of food, better starve to death than killing cows for food. If it continues to be like that statistic for cows will be higher than that of human beings. 

In India, a few months back there was an incident in which a Christian teacher was beaten up by the Muslims, for serving pork in a school. These are the same Muslims, who want to serve beef in India. See the hypocrisy.

I respect the religion of Hindus, but their idea or concept that we could not kill cows is just a little but delusional. Cows are animals just like other animals. I am not saying that their culture of not killing cows are immoral it's just that the immoral part is the consequence, people should not be killed just because of a "cow", even if it is a sacred being. My opinion is for all religions, if the religion has some kind of law then it must not have a capital punishment, even if it means having to disrespect the religion. It is just immoral and can affect the religions image on how others see it.

Many religions are that way.

Christianity says that the thief/rapist on the street will be eternally saved once he turns to his imaginary god and asks for forgiveness.  Yet a person who gives his life to serve others, but does not believe in fairy tales, will burn for all eternity.

I agree with you - Rofl.

Well maybe if it is India it will works or maybe other countries with its major religion is Hindu, I would like to say opinion what happens in India is because the Hindu is majority so they can do whatever they wants to protect their beliefs.

i was awed when i saw this in the media and online but what i believe is this is a witch hunt to eradicate people who dont share the same believe. It is just fine in a multi religious nation i find myself to believe and practice what ever but dont hurt anyone in doing this. If we allow religion to control our lives then we might end up being in trouble

i think this is other extrim poin on the same dualistic scale....we should choose middle way maybe....and we should be patient to everebody

I definitely respect all the traditions and beliefs which exist on the surface of earth but I cannot stand killing people for somebody's religious belief. Someone can believe that cows are sacred, on the other hand, other people find it ridiculous. In both situation, people must respect each other's religion and beliefs for the sake of humanity.

Well, you can buy and eat beef freely in north-eastern states like Assam, Meghalaya, Nagaland, Manipur and Tripura. If you try to stop them from killing and eating beef, you might get killed. As for me I don't consider cow as sacred. To me it is just another animal. If someone wants to eat beef, fine, no problem. Oh by the way, if the need arise, I will save a man, not a cow.

We should respect their belief. It may be weird for us but that is part of their culture, we don't have the right not to respect them. So now when you go to India, you know what not to eat.  ;D

  Now, I know that Indians see cows as sacred animals, and in my country there are no such  sacred animals. They still eat beef regularly and I still do. If I'm in India, I will not eat cows

Cow-meat is readily available in certain regions of India, where it is not banned. Examples are Jammu and Kashmir, Kerala, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland, West Bengal.etc. Most of the Hindu Bengalis eat cow meat and this is true for members of the ethnic group residing in India and Bangladesh. So outside the Hindi speaking regions, you can have cow meat.

Good info, I will take a particular care should I ever order a bloody steak in India :)

I think that on some side every animal can be considered sacred because it is alive and suffers when it get killed...and people don't have the need to eat meat...people can eat well and be healthy on plant foods - and this proven by thousands of vegetarians and vegans