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Date: Saturday, July 8th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 11:30 BCT / 4:30pm PST / 7:30pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 00:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 2:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/


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Main Card (PPV)

Amanda Nunes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Nunes) (14-4) vs. Valentina Shevchenko (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Shevchenko) (14-2) (Bantamweight Championship)
Yoel Romero (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoel_Romero) (12-1) vs. Robert Whittaker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Whittaker) (18-4) (Interim Middleweight Championship)
Fabricio Werdum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabricio_Werdum) (21-6-1) vs. Alistair Overeem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alistair_Overeem) (42-15) (Heavyweight)
Anthony Pettis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Pettis) (19-6) vs. Jim Miller (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Miller_(fighter)) (28-9) (Lightweight)
Daniel Omielanczuk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Omiela%C5%84czuk) (19-7-1) vs. Curtis Blaydes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Blaydes) (7-1) (Heavyweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Travis Browne (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Browne) (18-6-1) vs. Oleksiy Oliynyk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksiy_Oliynyk) (51-10-1) (Heavyweight)
Chad Laprise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Laprise) (11-2) vs. Brian Camozzi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Camozzi) (7-3) (Welterweight)
Jordan Mein (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Mein) (29-11) vs. Belal Muhammad (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belal_Muhammad_(fighter)) (11-2) (Welterweight)
Thiago Santos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiago_Santos_(middleweight_fighter)) (14-5) vs. Gerald Meerschaert (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Meerschaert) (26-8) (Middleweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Rob Font (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Font) (13-2) vs. Douglas Silva de Andrade (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Douglas-Silva-de-Andrade-87981) (24-1) (Bantamweight)
Cody Stamann (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Cody-Stamann-61896) (13-1) vs. Terrion Ware (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Terrion-Ware-106755) (17-5) (Featherweight)
Trevin Giles (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Trevin-Giles-111237) (9-0) vs. James Bochnovic (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/James-Bochnovic-130011) (8-1) (Light Heavyweight)

Other

- A UFC Bantamweight Championship bout between current champion Cody Garbrandt and former champion T.J. Dillashaw was expected to take place at this event, possibly as the headliner. However, on May 23, Garbrandt withdraw due to a back injury and the bout was scrapped.

- A welterweight bout between former UFC Welterweight Champion Robbie Lawler and former UFC Lightweight Championship challenger Donald Cerrone was originally booked for UFC 205. However, Lawler pulled out to take a little more time after losing his title via knockout at UFC 201. The fight was rescheduled to take place at this event. Reports began to circulate on June 28 that Cerrone had sustained a minor injury and that the pairing would be left intact, but expected to shift to UFC 214 three weeks later. UFC President Dana White confirmed later that Cerrone in fact had a staph infection and a pulled groin, and while the plan is to keep the bout, it won't happen at UFC 214.

- Alan Jouban was expected to face Brian Camozzi at the event. However on June 6, it was announced that Jouban pulled out due to a broken foot. Jouban was replaced by The Ultimate Fighter Nations: Canada vs. Australia welterweight winner Chad Laprise on June 8.

- With so many injuries to the card, the UFC brought in 4 fighters who will make their UFC debut against each other on 8 days notice: Cody Stamann, Terrion Ware, Trevin Giles, and James Bochnovic.

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Bitcoin on Bisping is certainly not much of a gamble!!! I am sure clad i dont have to enter the ring ! but i would have to say that the match really isnt much on odds in my book Bitsping without a doubt!!!

Here we go! It's confirmed Cody Garbrandt will face Tj Dillashaw at UFC 213, I more interested on this match compared to the main event. This will be a tough one to call, a knockout artist against to a semi. Cody Garbrandt ( W:11| L: 0| Knockout: 11| Dec: 2) vs Tj Dillashaw (W:14| L:3| Knockout:6| Sub:4 | Dec:5 ) I read an article after Cody's done with TJ he wants Mighty Mouse Johnson next on a showdown, perhaps if he win .

It is good to see Georges St Pierre back in the cage and i am sure he thinks that Michael Bisping is an easy fight to make a return and i am certain that GSP wont defend the belt even if he wins the belt because i really do not know how he will be facing Yoel Romero who is really a giant in the division and it is difficult to fight him,Bisping is really ducking Romero and this match is really stalling the division .

A lot of the people GSP fought at welterweight, like Nick Diaz and Carlos Condit looked much bigger than GSP in the cage.

I would have to think Michael Bisping could have enough of a size advantage at 185 to have a chance of winning.

Cody Garbrandt vs TJ Dillashaw will be an exciting fight for sure.

It is going to be an interesting fight because of the history between the two,Garbdandth has the power advantage here but TJ Dillashaw is elusive but having faced Dominick Cruz Garbrandt will have the solution for TJ's game plan. Cody Garbrandt facing Might Mouse Johnson will be the ultimate dream match as i have not seen anyone causing any problems for Johnson in his division and the lower division needs attractive fights.

Well i've been waiting to see GSP in action again though i'm not really sure about him winning. I think Bisping is a bit too big and i'm not sure if GSP would be the same as before. The last fight for Saint Pierre didn't actually go out that well even if he won. I'm just excited to see him back in the octagon

Bisping really has a weakness in the ground game and i am sure GSP's game plan will be to take him down and wear him down.One of the main reason GSP left the company was because of the lack of testing and he was an advocate to implement Olympic style drug testing policy with UFC and when his demands were not heard and he is having a hard time fighting juiced up fighters he simply quit and now he is making his return because things have changed.

This is GSP's come back game and he picks the Bisping for a reason. Bisping is the weakest amongst champion and GSP has a solid chance to dethrone Bisping in his comeback. Bisping has a good take down defense, but I think GSP will not have a problem with this, and will take him down easily. And I agree with the strategy that you said, and it will likely how the fight will turn out. I have to pick GSP to win his comeback game.

I think it's more of a 'McGregor Effect' at play here.  Both the UFC and the fighters now realize that they need to make the fights more interesting by organizing the match ups the people want to see AND turn it into a no holds barred trash talking match before even the real fight begins.  It's what sells.  But so far I haven't seen anybody do it better than king McGregor himself.  I hope he comes back soon.

It is true that Mcgregor has changed the fight industry and now everyone is vocal in the UFC and everyone wants super fights and with WME purchasing UFC it has turned into a spectacle rather than a sporting event as the most deserving fighters are not getting their title shot while some are getting pushed more than others but they are making a lot of money .Mcgregor is fighting Mayweather and if Mayweather delays the fight he might return to have a fight before going back to boxing. :)

i will be taking bisping looks like hes +140 right now i wish there was a bitcoin site with the lines up already

Yeah, the thing is Bisping vs GSP is kind of a joke to me.  If they really intended to create a money fight, why not do one without getting any championship belt involved.  Instead of Bisping, get Anderson Silva to fight GSP.  It's the fight that long time fans of MMA has been waiting for right?

The real money fight is when there is a title involved and so is the reason GSP targeted Bisping ,because the champion earns more money than the rest of the fighters and since he was not active for a long time he needs to win the belt to get back to those level.Anderson Silva vs GSP is the fight i am looking for and i hope that UFC will make that fight for the fans.

Not necessarily.  A money fight doesn't have to be a championship fight.  Having two big names in the sport, that has enough drawing power and the ability to make huge money in tickets and PPV subscriptions is exactly what a money fight is.  Sometimes it's even viewed like a circus show.

Bisping is getting old, it might not be an easy in for him as people are expecting. Every fighter has a puncher's chance right. I don't rate Bisping any way.

Michael Bisping only got lucky versus Luke Rockhold when he won the title. The fight before that versus Anderson was close and some say that Anderson won that fight. Then the fight after was versus Dan Henderson, another fight that made Michael look bad.

@LFC_Bitcoin. GSP is better than Michael but the problem is he came out of retirement and his last fight was a long time ago. He is also in a new weight division.

Bisping did very well when he fought Chael Sonnen on late notice. Some thought Bisping won the fight.

Bisping may have come back from his injuries too soon when he fought Tim Kennedy.

Bisping hasn't fought a top wrestler in a long time which makes it hard to say how well he'll do against GSP.

GSP didn't do the best against Johny Hendricks in his last fight, either.

I like Bisping here.
More later

@bbc.reporter Michael Bisping fought a good fight against Luke Rockhold and he has done his home work when he was facing him,because Luke Rockhold had a tendency to drop in hands with every combination and Bisping knew exactly that weakness and won the match,so that is not just a lucky punch,but the fight against Anderson it was really close and when ever Bisping fights in the UK the judges always favor him,the fight between Thales Leites is one example.

It was posted at mmanews.com that a Amanda Nunes versus Valentina Shevchenko fight for the women's bantamweight championship is planned. UFC 213 might be one of the best the UFC has given us for this year. It already has TJ Dillashaw versus Cody Garbradnt, Cowboy versus Robbie Lawler and of course the main event The Count versus GSP.

Looks like its a heavy stack up match. Adding Nunes vs Shevchenko. This will be a terrific fight. Nunes looking for her second successful defense of her championship after finishing Miesha Tate. On the other hand, Shevchenko with her dominant win over former champion Holly Holm and has win as well with Pena. I believed Amanda simply is bigger and more powerful than Val but Val has the speed. So its really hard to predict who will take this. But for all intent and purposes, I will go to Nunes to win this fight.

Isn't Michael Bisping the guy that lost an eye during a fight? I think he just should retire, fighting with 1 eye only is an huge disadvantage. He is great at commentating, so I would stikc to that.

GSP is great, but out of his prime, this may give Bisping a chance, but again, fighting with 1 eye vs a MMA legend is just crazy.

Yes he has a vision problem he detached his retina and had to undergo a surgery,and he was fighting with it for a long time now,if you look at his fights all of them are great wars and you wont recognize the face as the punishment he used to endure is tremendous ,when he became the champion it was a good moment as he really deserved to win the championship before retirement and since he only intends to do a couple of fights in his career he is choosing his opponents so that he could make the maximum amount of money to have a good retired life.

I am a big fan of Valentina Shevchenko and she has accomplished a lot in her fight career and their first fight was a close one than the results show,Nunes had a successful title defense when she smoked the only grail of Ronda Rousey and Shevchenko is a good test and if she can get her to the second round then Valentina Shevchenko has a better chance to win.

If GSP wins and surprises everyone, who do you think his next opponent should be? I speculate the UFC is going to set up an Anderson Silva versus GSP for the middleweight championship. But Anderson should first fight someone like Yoel Romero and win because he is only no.7 in the rankings.

Fuck! Bisping vs GSP card got cancelled! Unbelievable:

http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/dana-white-scraps-plans-for-georges-st-pierre-vs-michael-bisping-declares-yoel-romero-will-get-next-title-shot-051117

It looks like GSP is definitely out, but Bisping may be still be fighting against another opponent but we all wanted to see that fight, without GSP Bisping is not going to make as much money so he is pretty pissed off... another failure for the UFC.

I don't understand why GSP says he can't fight until november.

Does anyone have info on that?

Shevchenko is so awesome. Gotta <3 that girl.

He is making his return after a very long time and he is debuting in a new weight class and he needs to bulk up to face Bisping and it is not easy for a person who is always in shape bulk up and expect to have good cardio ,so is the reason it takes this much time for him to make a come back,now he should face Anderson Silva which i wanted to see for a very long time.

Dana White said that he is not going to wait for George Saint Pierre so this means GSP is going to face another fighter later on. Isn't Silva too big for GSP? I would like to see that fight tho, it's actually better than the Bisping fight imo. It's a fight between two legends.

I would like to see GSP vs McGregor too.

@thejaytiesto i do not think that there is much of a big difference in size and if you look at their reach GSP is having a 76 inch reach while Anderson Silva have a slight reach advantage of 77.5 inch and GSP walks around 190 to 200 pounds and Anderson is also not a very huge person,but one thing is sure GSP wont fight Romero has he is a really huge specimen.

Its too late now to see those 2 fighting. They should have fought when both are still in their prime in UFC. Fans have lost interest now, specially on Anderson Silva's antics. If they fought like 4 or 5 years ago, that would be huge then. But if they fought on their prime, Anderson Silva will surely win.

It will be a good fight no matter what and it should have happened when they were ruling their respective divisions and now things have changed a lot but still i would like to see them fight.GSP could take Anderson Silva down and who knows whether he could control the fight in the ground,it would have being a spectacle and as a fight fan i would still love to see this fight.

There are also stories in the internet that Cody Garbrandt vs TJ Dillashaw might be cancelled also. They say Cody has a back injury that might take time to heal.

I speculate Dana White will renegotiate with Anderson Silva and push him to fight in UFC 213 versus a worthy opponent. The problem is who?

I haven't see any news that Cody Garbrandt vs TJ Dillashaw might be cancelled. I don't know about Silva, he still act a primadonna,  He's no longer the champion. What not push for Romero vs Silva? Any thoughts? or maybe it is much better if Anderson Silva retires now?

@peter0425. News and updates today are hard to miss. A simple search on the internet and you will find everything you are looking for.

Let me get it for you. http://www.mmamania.com/2017/5/12/15633588/cody-garbrandt-reveals-back-injury-t-j-dillashaw-bout-up-in-the-air

The article says that Cody will have his back surgery in under 3 months. That will put his fight versus TJ in doubt.

 

Anyone tuning in to watch invicta today? There will be three former UFC fighters on the card Elizabeth Phillips, Kelly Faszholz and Roxanne Modafferi. I think there also was a Titan FC card yesterday with some former UFC fighters. MMA's support seems to be increasing. Always a good thing, am I right?

 8)

Hope they find someone good to fill in for Bisping vs GSP @ UFC 213. Looks like it may already be too late?

@Hydrogen. I speculate it will be Anderson Silva and I hope it will be versus Yoel Romero. What is the news on Michael Bisping? Is he still interested for UFC 213? I heard he is also out.

@Hydrogen It is always good to see more promotions coming up,is it possible to wage a bet on all those fights and where can i view those fights,since UFC is the only big promotion it was really difficult to find Bellator events streaming live,they have to either increase the viewing opportunity for the rest of the world .

It is highly unlikely Anderson Silva  will be given a shot at the interim title,Michael Bisping is not interested to fight Yoel Romero and what he says now is that he is nursing an injury and so it will take a long time to recover he just wants the big money fight against GSP,i can understand why everyone is afraid of Romero,the most likely candidate to get the shot is Robert Whittaker.

@eaLiTy. Gegard Mousasi will also a good match up for Anderson but both Gegard and Robert Whitaker just fought in April. They might not want to fight this July because their bodies need to recover and starting another fight camp so soon will put them at the risk of injury. This is bad timing for Anderson. Maybe it would be better for him to move his schedule.

So Bisping and GSP are out of 213.  And for the MW bout we got Yoel Romero vs Whitaker, fighting for the interim MW belt.  The new main event will be Nunes vs Shevchenko 2.  Not a bad main and co-main if you ask me.

Here's the updated card so far.  <3 Lawler vs Cerrone!

Women's Bantamweight:  Amanda Nunes vs Valentina Shevchenko
Middleweight:    Yoel Romero vs Robert Whittaker
Welterweight:    Robbie Lawler   vs Donald Cerrone           
Heavyweight:    Fabricio Werdum vs Alistair Overeem           
Lightweight:  Anthony Pettis vs Jim Miller           
Heavyweight:  Travis Browne vs Oleksiy Oliynyk           
Welterweight:  Jordan Mein vs Belal Muhammad   

Another stacked card and we have a lot of interesting fights in this card and finally the UFC is pushing women's MMA and trusting the new champion and i never expected this all of a sudden when they did not promote Nunes against her match up against Ronda and i think to compensate they gave her the main slot,which is a good thing as they are learning from their mistakes.

Yup.  This is a good card.  It would have been awesome if it still had Cody Garbradnt and TJ Dillashaw tho.  We'd three fights for the belt if it were so.  Plus Garbradnt vs Dillashaw is a very intriguing match up.  Dillawshaw has almost the same footwork as Cruz but with a direct style and more knocking power.

I couldn't agree more regarding TJ's footwork mate. I really hate to see their fight being cancelled. Anyways, I'm looking forward to Amanda Nunes defending her title against Valentina Shevchenko. This will be rematch. Nunes will advantage is her all around skillset but Shevchenko has good striking ability. Her only loss inside the Octagon came at the hands of Nunes and Shevchenko hopes to avenge that loss and capture the bantamweight belt. But I still Nunes winning.

They have a story behind and it will be interesting to see them fight as Cody Garbradnt is the best fighter from the team alpha male camp and TJ just dumped them and started talking smack after he left them which is really not acceptable but there is another interesting battle going on with Cody Garbradnt and a body builder named Matthew Kader who challenged Cody for a fight and have already booked flight tickets for the battle and he promised it will be streaming live coming june 25th.I am sure his smart ass will get a good beating.

Oh yeah, that's right isn't it...  In one season of The Ultimate Fighter, it was Conor who analyzed Dillashaw's situation and his intentions pretty well.  Smart man, Conor.  Team Alpha Male had no idea.

Shevchenko all day
5 round fight favors here ,she has no reason to fear the slower striking of Nunes, just prevent takedowns and let Nunes get tired.
Shev stays on the outside picks her apart in round 4 and 5 

@krach. Do you think we should wait for the odds to change so we can get better odds for Valentina? I can see now that it is almost 50/50 between them. If those odds maintain or move to Valentina as the favorite on the day of the fight then do you think a bet on Amanda would be better? Amanda is still the stronger fighter.

i will be picking

Robert Whittaker
Robbie Lawler           
Fabricio Werdum   

i hope Whittaker is a decent sized dog

To be frank looking at the size of Yoel Romero i would say no one had a chance against him,even after USADA testing he is the only fighter without any change to his body mass while the rest of the muscle men looks like inflated balloon.  ;D Rober Whittaker has speed as his advantage but i would go for Romero simply because of his athletic strength.

Another messup for the UFC. No GSP vs Bisping, no Cody... those are the fights I wanted

Nunes will win, Cerrone will win, Fabricio will win, not exciting imo.

Fabricio Werdum vs Alistair Overeem will be my favorite but only because it's a nostalgic fight, but those guys should retire, I think they have no options against Stipe.

I will also pick Yoel Romero to win. I think this is an easy fight for him. Robert Whitaker is too small and is not a heavy fisted fighter. And all advantage points to Romero. I know Whitaker has speed but I see hitting Yoel but will not cause any damage. Yoel is a monster, only thing we can say about him is his stamina.

lollolol yeah he only has 6 tko/ko wins out of his 9 wins in the ufc, and hes not heavy fisted? and the only advantage romero has on whittaker is wrestling and alittle size thats it every thing else is to whittaker anyways i hope he a big dog

One thing i have seen with Romero is that he wont initiate wrestling unless it is forced upon him and i do not see Robert Whittaker initiating wrestling,he would plan to dismantle him on his feet and Romero has being rocked before but he has the power to finish anybody even when he is hurt,look at the fight against Tim Kennedy,he was rocked and i thought Kennedy will finish the fight but the reversal happened,after getting hit he came back and finished Tim Kennedy,so i would not want to bet against Romero.

I agree with notserp and I will follow him on his Robert Whitaker bet. Why is everyone suddenly talking up Yoel Romero? Oh yes right, because he defeated Chris Weidman with a surprising move. But maybe some of you forgot how old Yoel really is.

Cody Garbrandt's back injury was so unfortunate, i hope it doesn't ruin his career, he was destined to be one of the best ever, the way he played around with Dominic Cruz in 207 was pretty epic, he made him look like a noob sometimes, notable since Dominic Cruz is a top competitor too.

Dominic Cruz is a tough competitor but one thing is that his body is not keep up with the talents this kid has and even in recent times he is plagued by plantar fascia tendinitis,which is a painful foot and since is game plan is focused on movement it will be hard to win a battle with that kind of disease,it was an epic battle tough.Hope he could recover and come back and put up some fantastic shows.

I believe both Dominic Cruz and Cody Garbrandt will come back in full form and then fight a rematch, and it's anybody's guess who will win, because both fighters are one of the best of all times on their division no doubt about that. When the rematch happens I have no idea who I would bet on.

@thejaytiesto. Unless Dominick does something new and develops more strength in his punches the winner of that rematch would still be Cody. Cody knows what Dominick will do before he makes the move.

@bbc.reporter Yoel Romero might be old ,but let me ask you one things,how many 39 year old individuals do you know who looks trimmed and shaped like Romero with a drug testing policy with USADA and he is a big start in the amateur wrestling circuit and is considered as a legend by many people,these things are more than enough for people to favor Yoel Romero and by the way the kick landed by Romero was not a lucky punch,just check the fight carefully and how he planned that well and even in youtube someone made a video on how Romero was planning that with faints in earlier rounds.

Ok but for now we just have to see how he performs against Robert Whitaker. I am only saying that Yoel might now be overrated because of his spectacular win versus Chris Weidman, which could be true depending on the outcome of his next fight.

Hey guys, here a little something to get you excited for UFC 213.  Krach mentioned that he's for Shev in this fight.  I'm kinda with him, this fight could be closer than what's expected.  The hype train is all Nunes right now after stopping Rousey.  Knowing that, get ready to get in on Shev, her line could go up anytime now.

Enjoy the video.  :)

UFC 213: Nunes vs Shevchenko 2 - Extended Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQbM8w5rTFw

I'm not certain about Yoel.

A lot of MMA fighters overindulge in alcohol, do drugs & don't take care of their bodies.

People who abuse their bodies that way would probably never look as good as Yoel does at age 39.

Yoel could look good simply from clean living and taking care of himself.

I got Shevchenko winning the main event. Excited for this one.

I am a big time Yoel Romero fan because of his world class wrestling and his athletic ability,if not for his cardio i would rate him the best ever in the division,i seriously would like to see him fight Daniel Comier in a wrestling match and would like to see who will win the bout.
Shevchenko is a multi talented fighter and one of the well rounded fighters in women's division and if she could get Nunes to the third round then she will take the belt from her.

Surprise surprise!  Oh how the crowd is fickle.  The lines opened with Nunes as the slight favorite at 1.86 or something with Shev at over 2.00.  I just checked the lines today at Nitrogen and I was pretty surprised to see Nunes at even money and Shev as the slight fave at 1.89.   

Easy bet on Nunes.

I was hoping for Whitaker to be the underdog again, but sadly he's at 1.80. 

And what happened to Lawler vs Cerrone?  Meh.

Anyway it's time to study and watch as much past fights as you can before making some bets.  Enjoy!  ;)

UFC 213 Free Fight: Robert Whittaker vs Brad Tavares
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivlfkz59wkY

UFC 213 Free Fight: Yoel Romero vs Clifford Starks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn31rFUQg8E

UFC 213 Free Fight: Valentina Shevchenko vs Holly Holm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFpmNnWFqI4

UFC 213 Free Fight: Amanda Nunes vs Miesha Tate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WXIUlc70zE

UFC 213 Free Fight: Amanda Nunes vs Valentina Shevchenko 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne-fA6FD59k

Nunes gas tank doesn't last more than 2 rounds.

I think you have a valid point there.

Seeing Yoel Romero dominate Chris Weidman in wrestling/grappling aspects of their fight was almost magical. Will be cool to see what he can do with Whittaker although Yoel's gas tank, like Nunes, is also in question.

Really looking forward to this card.   :)

With the Conor McGregor Mayweather showdown announcement and the heavy stacked UFC 2014,i think this fight card is not getting that much attention from the media nor do i see much promotions from UFC either,more matches have being scrapped from this card too,Donald Cerrone will miss out because of injury,we still have two championship fights and two former champions fighting in this card.Will predict after seeing the weigh ins.

All the talk of a fighter's 'gas tank' not being able to last two or three rounds have been an overused argument.  Don't you think the fighters know this and try to improve on it?  Of course they do.  Sometimes we make the mistake in thinking they don't evolve as martial artists.

Yeah. The gas tank argument is most valid when pinpointing the cause of cardio issues.

Ex: Overeem carried too much muscle mass to have the cardio to last 3 rounds in his previous fights.

In Amanda Nunes case, I'm not certain what the cause of her cardio issues are.

Nunes has had cardio issues since 2014 when she fought Cat Zingano.

Nunes fighting Valentina in 2016 showed she still had not fixed her cardio troubles.

If Nunes couldn't fix her cardio in the 2 years from 2014-2016 its possible she still hasn't fixed it.

Again, it's an overused argument.  And there's also an argument for Nunes not needing a 'good as tank' since Shev doesn't pressure her opponents that much (or at all) at the first couple of rounds.  Nunes could play it smart and avoid wasting too much energy.  She was throwing wild, telegraphed kicks and punches, and moved around a lot in the first fight.  No need to move around too much, as Shev has most of her weight at the back leg.

@ tokeweed , the problem with gas tank and stamina is,you cannot generate stamina in a month or two,you can just improve a bit,but it is all genetics,you either have it or you dont ,a sprinter cannot run a marathon ,it is how the body is built ,all they can do is minimize the movement and reserve the energy to last five rounds.

The great thing about MMA is: we're going to find out whether its an overused argument or not.  ;)

It might be fair to say many fighters never fix their weaknesses. Ronda never fixed her boxing. Paul Daley didn't fix his takedown defense as Rory MacDonald showed. Jon Jones is still trying to fix his substance abuse issues. Johny Hendricks is still struggling with his weight cutting issues, etc.

Did Amanda Nunes fix her cardio? I don't think she did. But we will see.

The point is does Nunes really have that problem coming in this match, this time around?  Sure one can argue she has a 'weak' gas tank, my argument is fighters adapt and evolve.  Nunes knows where she's weak and what needs to be worked on and work and train hard on that.  She's a champ, there's a reason why she's up there.  She def won't be going in there octagon with a 'weak' gas tank.

Have you seen Amanda Nunes fight with Cat Zingano in 2014? Amanda Nunes had serious cardio issues in that fight.

Two years later in 2016, Nunes showed the same cardio issues when she fought Shevchenko in a 3 round fight.

Sometimes, if they have years to fix a problem & can't fix it. It never gets fixed.

BJJ Scout has some of the breakdowns I've ever seen. Here's one he did of Nunes vs Ronda that is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3WhOryZ_OY

I hope he does one of Shevchenko vs Nunes but looks like he's been busy doing other things.

If you look at the record of Amanda Nunes she has four losses and only one went to the decision the rest two is TKO losses and one loss on the ground,in her last fight against Valentina Shevchenko she dominated the first two rounds and when she could not finish her and Shevchenko fought her when she went to the ground and in the third round she took the fight to Nunes and the bell saved Nunes ,if not she could have finished her.Look at the record of Valentina Shevchenko,look at her kick boxing record and she has two wins as a professional boxer and in her fight against Holly Holmes she was the better striker and that too against a world class boxer,so if Nunes is not able to finish her in the first two rounds then it is going to be a long night. :)

Here's the thing tho, you can all give your simplistic view of how it can all pan out, but I'd say that's a mistake.  The fighters are always evolving, the sport also keeps evolving, if you say something without any regard of the present and base everything all on what occurred in the past, then you're like just following without any thought because you think you already have 'perfect knowledge'.

@tokeweed It is not about having the perfect knowledge ,you really cannot do the math when it comes to fighting because a single mistake could end up in a loss,it all depends upon the mentality of the fighter,the confidence level plays an important factor in deciding the winner and a losser,every fighter in the UFC has specialized skill set,be it in the ground or in the stand ups ,the sport might be evolving but the basics remains the same for centuries only the athletic ability changes with every fighter.

We have two title fights in this card, it is really hard to predict the outcome as i want to see the betting lines,Amanda Nunes is the clear favorite but Shevchenko is the only fighter in the division who can give her a good battle,Rober Whittaker is young and fast and that might create some problems for Romero as he is a slow starter.

@Pattberry. Amanda is not the clear favorite anymore. Check the odds.

My bets are for Valentina which I got in too late, Yoel Romero which after watching his fights I changed my mind about him, he is better than I thought and Fabricio Werdum.

Hey guys, just dropping by for some videos to get all of you pumped.  But as krach advices, don't watch any promotional videos unless you already have your bets in.  They make you emotional and they cloud your judgement.

Enjoy!  :)

UFC 213 Countdown: Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQCpH3Ygr6Y

UFC 213: Inside the Octagon - Nunes vs Shevchenko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2B17_RAALk

UFC 213: Inside the Octagon - Romero vs Whittaker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuehtbAxwSM

I recommend watching Dan Hardy's breakdown tho.  Good luck!

Edit:  krach, don't wanna bug you via PM but this might be something you wanna join:   Bitcointalk English Premier League pool betting  ;D

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TUF Final and UFC 213 Picks and Discussion:
https://youtu.be/r_y3gZXQKso (https://youtu.be/r_y3gZXQKso)

There is also a UFC card one day before UFC 213 on july 7th, for the latest season of The Ultimate Fighter Redemption:

Michael Johnson   vs.   Justin Gaethje            
Dhiego Lima   vs.   TBD            
Marc Diakiese   vs.   Drakkar Klose            
Jared Cannonier   vs.   Nick Roehrick            
Brad Tavares   vs.   Elias Theodorou            
Jordan Johnson   vs.   Marcel Fortuna      
      
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)
Angela Hill   vs.   Ashley Yoder            
Ed Herman   vs.   C.B. Dollaway            
Jessica Eye   vs.   Aspen Ladd      
      
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)
Gray Maynard   vs.   Teruto Ishihara            
Tecia Torres   vs.   Juliana Lima

Two days of back to back UFC on friday and saturday.

Could be a good week ahead of us.

 :)

solid weeked of fights but i dont really like anything on the friday card

maybe just small plays on

Elias Theodorou           
Marcel Fortuna                 
Ed Herman 
Gray Maynard

Following you on Werdum.  Overeem is one punch from being KO'd at every fight.  And he's just not the same post USADA.

As my friend would say during his fights, 'He gonna start reemin soon'.  Lol.  :D

Anyway, here are a couple of videos from the vlog series.  They're good to watch just to get your 213 fix if you're bored.

UFC 213 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2XLCkCl7qo

UFC 213 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NyM8U_8x-0

I cant find a TUF 25 thread so I will post this here: 2 offical picks
https://degenbet.com/tuf-25-finale-michael-johnson-vs-justin-gaethje/ (https://degenbet.com/tuf-25-finale-michael-johnson-vs-justin-gaethje/)

I dont normaly do this, but I think it is connected to the theme of our UFC threads.
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For those who enjoy viewing MMA media for events, open workouts for UFC 213 and TUF 25 are posted on youtube.

UFC 213 Open Workouts
Amanda Nunes  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiTl_GRA8AI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiTl_GRA8AI)
Valentina Shevchenko  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtQW_5QKddM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtQW_5QKddM)
Yoel Romero  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd1n-jWUitQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd1n-jWUitQ)
Robert Whittaker  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhqST5F8KmM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhqST5F8KmM)

TUF 25 Open Workouts
Michael Johnson  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBta5msjl_s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBta5msjl_s)
Justin Gaethje  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJoKyXwuSNs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJoKyXwuSNs)

I like watching the open workouts. Its interesting to see what some of their routines are, what combos they use when hitting pads, what subs they work on the ground, what their punching/kicking technique looks like and assorted details which usually don't factor into a fight much but could show some of what they work on in training.

I am really impressed with Yoel Romero ,he looks shredded in his work out routine and my god he is a physical freak,his athletic ability is impressive for a 40 years old who weighs over 200 pounds. Just listened to a podcast from Chael Sonnen where he describes about Romero's wrestling career and how he would give everyone a chance in all of his fights before going for the finish and that is what he is displaying in his MMA career,he looks like loosing the fight and all of a sudden he switch gears and finish the fight.
Robert Whittaker has a background in karate and he is the superior striker and i am sure he will get his chances to finish the fight and Romero will display his wrestling credentials in this crucial fight and i am going for Romero to win the fight.

Changed my mind on Whitaker.  Romero is a beast!  I wonder why Whitaker opened at 1.80.  That seems a tad much considering he's against such a fine athlete/olympic level wrestler.

Here are some fun videos to watch.  Enjoy!  ;D

MMA Pros Pick - Amanda Nunes vs. Valentina Shevchenko (UFC 213)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHzXTi4xQok

MMA Pros Pick - Yoel Romero vs. Robert Whittaker (UFC 213)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzjbQzxq9wY

MMA Pros Pick - Alistair Overeem vs. Fabricio Werdum (UFC 213)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=225IBcUgMKA

UFC 213 Picks
https://degenbet.com/ufc-213-valentina-shevchenko-vs-amanda-nunes/ (https://degenbet.com/ufc-213-valentina-shevchenko-vs-amanda-nunes/)

People are wondering why they have fights on friday when they usually have them on Saturday.
Is this a new thing they are experimenting with now?
It will be interesting because by the time Sunday rolls around everybody will be super tired from the staying up so late and the late night drinking from the night before two nights in a row.
LOL!;D

I'm not 100% certain, I think a lot of "The Ultimate Fighter" finale's are scheduled on fridays. Can't claim to know the reasoning behind that.

This TUF finale was also on a friday: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Fighter:_Team_Joanna_vs._Team_Cl%C3%A1udia#The_Ultimate_Fighter_23_Finale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Fighter:_Team_Joanna_vs._Team_Cl%C3%A1udia#The_Ultimate_Fighter_23_Finale)

If you're curious you can see a list of UFC events, here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_events (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_events)

Bellator schedules some of their events for fridays and the UFC schedules their shows for saturdays. Maybe to avoid conflicts or competing for the same viewer demographic in TV ratings.

The UFC being the larger organization, they probably get the best days on the schedule.

they have done this a few times already and they have fights on wednesdays and sundays too i guess u just started watching ufc?

im really liking gray now at +285

easy win

Notserp, you keep winning again?  Lol.  What are your bets for 213?  I got Nunes, Romero and Werdum.

Here are the weigh ins.  Everyone made weight.  Good luck with all your bets guys!  ;)

UFC 213:  Official Weigh-ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbpgOAREc84

Amanda Nunes (135) vs. Valentina Shevchenko (134.5)
Yoel Romero (185) vs. Robert Whittaker (184.5)
Daniel Omielanczuk (248) vs. Curtis Blaydes (257.5)
Fabricio Werdum (239) vs. Alistair Overeem (253.5)
Anthony Pettis (156) vs. Jim Miller (155)
Travis Browne (247.5) vs. Oleksiy Oliynyk (241.5)
Chad Laprise (170) vs. Brian Camozzi (170.5)
Thiago Santos (186) vs. Gerald Meerschaert (184.5)
Jordan Mein (170) vs. Belal Muhammad (170)
Rob Font (135) vs. Douglas Silva de Andrade (134)
Cody Stamann (145) vs. Terrion Ware (145)
Trevin Giles (204) vs. James Bochnovic (201)

yeah i ended up going with jt for a good amount and lost a small bet on the under on the ME



those are main picks and ill prob go smaller on

Amanda Nunes
Thiago Santos

and maybe cammozi for the odds

I'm very excited to watch this series!  ;)

Their first met on Nunes vs Shevchenko 1 is really close match imo and i want Shevchenko win this 2nd time their met because i hate nunes and she is so cocky af. I think Shevchenko has a good chance to win too and she has a damn good odds though, worth to try imo.

Nunes is on an unstoppable streak. I think she is the best ever right now, but you cant discount Schevchenko. She has an amazing Muay Thai record and she has also defeated Holm, but I think the overall better fighter is Nunes. She has an amazing physique and strength, almost looks like a man to be honest, it's a pretty scary sight.

But the great UFC event is the next 214 one. We got Cyborg, Northcut, Woodley too beside the main event. A great night for fights and gambles.

Shevchenko came out and tried to wrestle Julianna Pena. I'm wondering if she'll try to do something similar with Amanda Nunes being that Nunes gased out inside 1 round when she tried to wrestle Cat Zingano.

BTW the fight between Michael Johnson and Justin Gaethje was incredible for anyone who missed it. One of the most ridiculous fights I've ever seen.

amanda is out of the ME

Amanda Nunes has a good story as the first  LGBQT champion,the first fight was not that close,yes in the final minutes of the fight Shevchenko took the fight to Nunes,other than that she was dominating in every position,Ronda was cocky ,if you start hating people for their attitude,you cannot do anything. ;)

Sad to see that Michael Johnson had to eat his words  ;D,he was calling Gaethje a C level fighter and not fit for the big leagues and he was not able to finish him when he had the chance,Justin Gaethje always fights like this ,in your face kind of fighter who takes a punch to lands a punch and still he is undefeated in his career and i thought Johnson will be his biggest challenge because of his fast hands but Gaethje proved he has a solid chin and now he is calling out Tony  Ferguson  :o ,business wise it is a bad decision,he had to face low ranked fighters and give some exciting fights for the fans and make a hell lot of money and then face the elite fighters,but he just wants tough fights and this is one of the best fights this year.

EDIT: There is a big change of events, Amanda Nunes pulled out of the fight as she is not feeling well and now Yoel Romero vs Robert Whittaker will be the main event. Joanna Jedrzejczyk is ready to face Valentina Shevchenko and they want the fight  for the inaugural 125 pounds  :D that wont happen now because the weigh ins are over and hours left for the fight to begin and the commissions wont accept any replacement this late.

I am going with Nunes because after that fight she had with Rousey to win the title. She looked unbeatable and once someone like this is on a roll they are not easy to stop and any one in their path will be just steam rolled. :-X

man im sick werdum should have won, instead of a big win i lose alittle this card fuck.

Lol.  I'm 0 - 2 for this event, that Overeem decision was clearly the wrong one.  Mafia gonna mafia I guess.  The fight is in Vegas so these things will happen.

And it looks like Whitaker is destined to be MW champ.  Bisping will have a handful vs him.  I'm also glad Nunes cancelled.  It felt like I was going 0 - 3 for the night.

if werdum won i would be up over 5 coins instead im down .4 lol at worst it should have been a draw or werdum win.

Lmao, Werdeum CAN finish Overeem on round 3 but stupid werdeum not continue punch standing but he take a takedown, that Knee to the chin is really pain for overeem. Overeem win in the first 2 round though, thats why he won. On the other match, why the fuck Nunes pull out, i'm waiting nunes loss on this match though, that sad.

It was unfortunate to see the main fight cancelled due Nunes having some sort of illness. Anyway, I enjoyed to see Overeem and Werdum fight which are 2 OGs of the game. I thought Overeem was going to lose by TKO again, but he managed to survive the third round.

Honestly it was a controversial win. It was almost a tie to me. Both could have won, but this things can happen in the fighting game. I guess judges thought round 1 and 2 were a win for Overeem and Werdum failed to finish him in the 3rd round.

horrible weekend REKT REKT REKT
Close decision in the Werdum Overeem fight and Romero just didnt have the gas in the 5th to finish it.

Nope, Nunes didn't have an illness.  She was cleared by the doctors to fight but she 'didn't feel right'.  Her problem was more mental than physical, and I'm glad she backed out else I would have lost another bet.

Michael Bisping would have had a better chance of defeating Yoel Romero. Now he'll face a tougher opponent in Robert Whittaker. Its crazy how the level of MMA continues to increase to where fights are getting ridiculous in terms of the athleticism and punishment these guys can take and dish out.

Crazy that australia crowned two new champions inside something like a week or two with Jeff Horn getting the nod over Pacquiao and Robert Whittaker winning the interim belt. If Mark Hunt could take the belt at heavyweight that would give them 3 champs.

The Overeem vs Werdum is really a good one. Werdum should have finished him. But rather than Rather than keeping the fight standing and going for the knockout, Werdum took down Overeem, where he maintained the dominant position but failed to pick up the finish.Yes, round 1 and 2 for Reem that gave him enough breathing room to win the fight. The win gave Reem a good chance of landing a fight with the Stipe Miocic for the belt.

Amanda Nunes will not be given a spot in a main event fight again according to Dana White. Some say that Dana might change his mind like he did with Jon Jones, who is now the headliner for UFC 214. No. Amanda is not on the level of Jon in terms of selling tickets and PPV subscriptions. The truth is a lot of MMA fans do not like her because she is arrogant.

Why should we judge her attitude outside the ring /game and use it against her. It's unfair and so Dana should start rethinking and consider her for a spot in the main event because myself and a lot like me would like to watch her.

Actually i hate Michael Bisping right now, he's really crossed the line by rips up Cuban flag and throws shreds at Yoel. I'm sure Robert Whittaker will win against michael bisping on the next fight. Yes Australia is on a good mood on fighting right now and have many great fighters.

I have noticed that Overeem has serious problems trying to stop an attacker on striking position and coming forward, he always gets clipped and his head becomes woobly, then an experienced striker could finish him. Werdum is not the best striker in the world so he didn't fully capitalize on it, Miocic could have finished him again on that situation just like last time.

The situation with Jon Jones and Amanda Nunes is different and i am sure she wont get a main event because she was cleared by medicals but she was not willing to fight ,which is a huge blow because the amount of money they spent for promotion and other things just went  because she was not willing to fight as she was mentally not in the best shape.