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Paradice.io is SCAM / NOT PAYING

main thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1844659.0
owner is cheater, don't play here


I won and try withdraw but nothing...
He don't want pay me.

my deposit 0.0033BTC https://blockchain.info/tx/5cc2130282a4584c80bb45bfbb56feeb5e7075f0410a3582adf7b49c9d8e0faa

Video proof
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0fdhoA3TXPQODBYRFJuYVZlbUU/view?usp=sharing


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1844659.msg18663185#msg18663185


https://s15.postimg.org/ekobzyd3v/image.png
https://s22.postimg.org/hmtbb7btd/stat.jpg
https://s3.postimg.org/66hcxff83/image.png

1.What made you think you're safe playing on a site which has the same interface of rollin.io and looks like a clone with different color scheme anyway ?

2.Regardless of the looks,he blamed you for having multiple accounts and double spending,the proofs posted above doesn't prove anything.Do mind linking to the transaction which was confirmed as you started playing ?

3.Also ,you made 40 accounts on the site  with low deposit wins.I see it as cheating the system by double spending from each of them.Of course unless you can prove us wrong.

thanks for the info i will this paradice.io to my scammers list...

1. i like dice and try it

2. I have not multiple accounts and double spending..
in this case can't use double spending, because deposit added after 1 confirmarion.

my deposit: 0.0033 BTC https://blockchain.info/tx/5cc2130282a4584c80bb45bfbb56feeb5e7075f0410a3582adf7b49c9d8e0faa

3. I have 1 account only. username: bomberman


not paying too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1844659.msg18661571#msg18661571

Did you use VPN whilst connecting to their site? Or did you use Tor? Maybe that's where the confusion was coming from.

I strongly doubt that they would scam for $9 even though their interface seems to be completely copied from Primedice. After all they do have a signature campaign running and the domain name is probably registered with more than $9.

But attempts to doublespend are indeed futile when you take into consideration that they do require 1 conf.

Hopefully he refunds you, because he probably has way more than that in his BTC wallet.

I don't use VPN and Tor.

max bet have limit 0.0011 too.. because they have not bankroll for more amount.

I hope that receive my 0.0083BTC

Well,you should play at reputed sites only.That would save your time and bitcoins.

Now this is interesting,they said you double spent and they only accept deposits after 1 confirmation.Not sure who is lying.Let's wait for them to respond.


Makes sense to me.This is a big red flag for other users continuing playing there.I'm sure they don't wanna lose it all for 0.008 bitcoins.

Lol really?

Max bet is 0.0011 BTC, that's crazy.

There isn't a lot of casinos that offer that low of max bet. Most casinos are comfortable with operating a max profit of around 0.1-1% of their bankroll. Based on that, their bankroll is probably less than 1 BTC?

Damn.... Hope you get your money back.

yes, it's really..

I use 1 account and deposit 0.0033BTC and win 0.0083BTC.. how can use multiple account for it? this false

I have tagged the casinos account and im considering tagging the OP here as well.

Tagging the OP on what basis ? I don't see him being part any activity that would justify the negative.Not for 0.008 atleast..

How could the casino blame him to be double spending if they only allow deposits after 1 confirmation.Fairly new casino,rollin.io stolen theme,can relate the coincidence,No ?
Forgive my lack of assumption capabilities but in case you have any other strong reason to tag the OP,please mention it.

Also,thanks for tagging the casino.

yes, deposits after 1 confirmation.. no need say about double spend!

I make video with proof that i use one account and show balance and autobet..

i will soon post this video

We're sorry this happened in early start of our casino.

We've already paid even if we had evidences user: "bomberman" 0.1+ bitcoins.  Also we have evidences that user mafiacoin and sarul are the same users. 

We don't want to create a precedent by posting user's ip here, only if it will be mandatory. He also declared he never used VPN or Tor browser, it is impossible that so many accounts to be registered  on same ip and all to have the same style of playing.

This user is having 37 accounts registered, he is changing accounts at every 20-30 seconds and claim the faucet on 100x bet mostly.

We will not accept this kind of behaviour on our website, in this case we decided not to withdraw his funds and to suspend his accounts for moment.

Thank you all for your interest on this problem,

Paradice.io

Interesting.

The IP thing is true then obviously he deserves not to get paid as he is a faucet abuser.

I suggest you disclose proof to a trusted member of the community privately, and maybe he can reach a verdict so that you can clear your name.

This is actually funny, I'm 100% sure these users are the same person. Sarul is claiming he has an withdraw request of 0.033 and mafiacoin deposited 0.0033.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1877660.msg18665488#msg18665488
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1844659.msg18661571#msg18661571

Are you stupid? I made video how i played.
Use 1 account only!
You fucking scammer and cheater!
Wait, i post link here..

No, i don't know this user.
I do not use faucet.

Thanks!
He don't want pay my winnings.
Not refund my deposit.
Also i dont use faucet.
And made video how i played.
This is proof!

SCAM

I don't think shouting will help at all.
Why don't you show proof to everyone :) Just upload the proof video.
I am sure everyone is waiting for your proof.

Yeps lol that is a funny fact
I just looked to their both account and translated their post in local it seem both is from the same country I guess?

Video proof
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0fdhoA3TXPQODBYRFJuYVZlbUU/view?usp=sharing

please post this video on youtube

wrong!

i deposited 0.0033, won 0.0083BTC
He won 0.033

Dude you're idiot already, stop acting like a kid.

I think this guy has no life for sure,
With his talks, he seems like a kid who's lollipop is snatched  ;D

Again fun part his 0.0083 turned into 0.083 within 24 hours ;D

sorry 0.0083BTC please see video

I fail to see any of your marks against the player MafiaCoin legit. You are blaming player for trying to double spend the transaction which never happened . Secondly I want to ask why you are disallowing withdraw on the basis of multiple account? How is it harming anyway? Claiming of giveaways from multiple accounts is a bad practice but I don't think it happened in this case.

Also please note that dice sites confiscating players deposit is not a fair practice. It explains if he/she has by some means cheated by knowing seeds, but the best in that is to not allow to withdraw profits. In this I also I am unable to see player cheating by which he should be allowed full withdrawal of winning amount.

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I wasn't in good impression about the site from the beginning. So hereby I would like to ask what is their hot wallet and how much they hold as of now. Please do it signed message so it clears my doubts.

Thank for support.
But my deposit and winnings can't refund.
My balance is 0 now.
He manipulate with balance!

I have sent a message to the owner requesting proof of said multiple accounts and faucet abuse. If his claims are true then ill review my trust against his casino.

I do find it odd that a new casino would try to damage their reputation over some pennies. Lets see what proof is provided.

Also in response to an earlier comment, why would I tag the OP? The scam accusations section is filled with false claims and i feel there are no penalties or not enough penalties for users making false claims. If this casino proves the OP is a scammer himself there will be some new paint issued

This is not true! Every week I deduce from my account 0,0032 BTC and I have no problems. Maybe you have registered your account via VPN ?

I feel like that the OP is obviously covering something up here. He definitely deserves a red mark from yahoo.

@Avirunes, the owner of the site is claiming that Mafiacoin has used multiple accounts to claim the faucet. Apparently 30-40 accounts are farmed this way for the faucet rewards.

That can really hurt a site, when nobody is actually depositing. Primedice disallows it, basically every site with a faucet disallows it. Especially when a site is so new it's definitely going to hurt the site is it's not stopped.

I don't think that the admin would simply scam someone for $10 when he is paying out more than that in his sig campaign and site design. If it was $1,000 then we can think about the admin scamming but if it's $10 then i think he is telling the truth.

The story from the website's admin doesnt quite check out, the admin says the user usually claims from the faucet and make a x100 bet with his accounts, 0.00000500x100= 0.005BTC, OP has much more than that

A lot of things could have happened actually.

He could have gambled up that 0.005 BTC after he hit that 100x roll and then withdrew 0.0033 of it somewhere and then deposited later after he lost the remaining balance gambling.

Remember that the OP said he deposited 0.0033 BTC and then gambled it up to 0.0083 or something. It wasn't directly from the faucet.

But Paradice should still provide evidence to yahoo.

0.000005*100 should be 0.0005 instead of 0.005, am I right? It would be wasting time to make many accounts claiming the faucet and bet x100 all the time just for 50k satoshi, it is not worth compared to the time needed to do it.
We should wait for yahoo, if paradice can give a proper proof that mafiacoin is the one who is wrong here then he will get his account clear. Otherwise, paradice deserve the red tag cause they cant pay so small amount of winning.

What likely happened was that he abused the faucets regularly and saved it up somewhere, and decided to deposit some of his faucet reaping rewards one day to gamble it up to .008, and that's when he was found out.

Yes, hopefully paradice can provide yahoo with proof that is needed.

And you'd be surprised how little people work for in remote areas of the world. For some abusing the faucet even if it is just 100 satoshis means that they are getting better pay than they would if they got a part time job.

Also i post link with video proof..
that my 1 acc use autobet and win.
500sat is very low for winning because i deposited 0.0033btc.
he does not have proof.

because admin is cheater and scammer.
I have proof that i use autobet with x1.10 this is not x100
please see video

Admin accussed you of abusing faucet by claiming it and doing 100x rolls, he never said anything about your betting habits.

Your video already shows you at 0.0083 which means that it doesn't make a difference at all to your case.


He has logs of IP probably, and if he can provide that proof to yahoo then he can clear his name.

Log is not proof. He can fake it.

also he deleted my account

https://paradice.io/index.php?unique=GRgTjGzzFXm1cBTch2DgWJNLxTrtefcE#

If account deleted.. proof has not exist.

The thing is ,was the aforesaid amount of balance was from the deposited amount or from the faucet? If it was from faucet then casino has it. While if it is from deposit then casino has to explain on what basis are they chancing arms on his deposit + profit ( unless casino proves that he won in illegitimate way)

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So far statement from casino's side is not checking out just like Your point is invalid explained plus another one earlier.

I use only deposit 0.0033btc.
and post my tx.

admin don't want refund my deposit too.. :(

ParaDice has provided sufficient enough evidence that this user is creating loads of multiple accounts. Neg trust removed from them and placed on MafiaCoin for wasting my time

Lol it's quite funny this guy : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=369809 : Sarul ( Alt of mafia coin )

He made a post before his 0.0083 from the account above for 0.033 now he has deleted that post ;D

He's trying to save his account from being painted red.

Also I certain that this guy has have 10+ alts on this forum as well.

Would you mind tagging him aswell  ;D

First of all, i would like to say very sorry about my words to paradice.io. Bcause after i see that i make mistake when playing with faucet not only once but so many before claim the giveaway. but i'm sure, that i not playing with multiple account. I'm sure this is happening bcause i use modem with Dynamic IP Address. it can be changed to one of them (my Country IP Address) when my modem is restarted or getting on after off. Btw, i'm from Indonesian. so if it the problem that i'm not be able to withdraw my winning amount,  i realize and understand now. So sorry for my last words Mr Paradice.io

Hello sir, if you think that i'm funny, the answer is yes, i'm very funny guy. I even laughed at my loss. I loss more than him ( mafia coin ) but i stop right there, i'm not continued to blame anymore. I forgot it. If this is her ( mafia coin ) account, there's now way i'll not create an accusation thread too. Bcause we know that 0.033BTC is more than 0.0083BTC. Why you so sure about your accusation this account is mafia coin alt account? Why you make a conclusion about i deleted my post? this is the post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1844659.msg18661571#msg18661571 you can check it on my last post. So pay attention first on my last post before do it. Everyone doesn't like accusations, Whoever. Or you're very like to see the people got neg trust for what they haven't done? so take care, your accusation will hit yourself. Sorry for my bad english. Perhaps, people right here is understand what i said.

Regards,

Ah, Sorry my bad :D about deleted post.
But why don't you ask for 0.033 from the casino if you're honest and telling the truth you will be paid.
It shows that how badly you wanted to save your account 2nd'ly the admin said mafia coin and sarul are same and yahoo claimed that they have provided the proof that they are innocent.

Really? There is proof!
This is shit.

Do you see my TX? I deposited and dont use faucet.
Also have 1 account only

Sarul is not my alt account!

We close this shit dice scam site.

Please wait Lauda and Lutpin. They are very honest.

Both sides have PM'd me to get into this dispute. I've looked through it, and from what I understand, the OP claims that: ParaDice.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=975321) is a scam. The other side claims that MafiaCoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909843) and sarul (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=369809) are the same person and have attempted to cheat the casino. Did I connect the dots correctly?

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I'd like to see the proof that ParaDice mentioned before deciding what to do.

yes,

he said that i use multi acc and faucet for cheating.

But i have screenshot and video. ( please see my first message)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0fdhoA3TXPQODBYRFJuYVZlbUU/view?usp=sharing
also i don't use faucet because i deposited 0.0033BTC.
TX https://blockchain.info/tx/5cc2130282a4584c80bb45bfbb56feeb5e7075f0410a3582adf7b49c9d8e0faa
i won 0.0083BTC
he don't want pay to me winnings and don't want refund my deposit 0.0033BTC
sarul is not my account.

Thanks!

so that's all you can said? after trying to accused me about i deleted my post before? it's seems like you are just assume this problem is a jokes. Have you fun with it? but nvm, forget that. Everyone always make a mistake.

what a kind of that question? have you read my post above? I think that post already answer your question, Why i don't want to ask my 0.033BTC from the casino. Because he proof me that i'm wrong. Mistakes are still a mistake. By admitting it, still I will never get paid. I'm here just want to make a clearly think that this account isn't her ( mafia coin ) alt account.

Guys, please look at this image, after that i want to ask you? "Will the same person send a message to the other account like this?" If this is her ( mafia coin ) alt account, send message like this is useless. Browser have history, we know what we are visited before will found with easily
https://s8.postimg.org/a9ydabuj5/Proof_Image.jpg
in that image we can see that he try to PM me about paradice.io is scam at 20/04/2017. That was around 2 days ago. But i don't care with that bcause i'm the one who make a mistake.

We can see this is my sec post in this thread since 2 days ago. If this is her account, impossibble this account will not make accusation too on this thread or created a thread. On that too we can see he send me PM more, but i never respon it. If you guys want to said "This is proof everything?" I want to said no. But at least this is definitely a little useful.

About both side send PM to Lauda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872) i will say that i'm not sent her PM yet. Does not mean I do not need his help to solve this problem. I really need his help for solve this misunderstand. That's all what i could said. The rest I leave to the three of them. If you're three need more proof, i can show this account is my real account with my real name with my Country Identity Card and My bank Account or my social media account that was created since 2009. All of them use same name. I think that will be the last proof i can show to you're three.

Regards,

Edited : That image not displayed properly, here is the link http://postimg.org/image/a9ydabuj5/

I want to say one last thing which is I can't deal with this guys anymore -_-
I leave the rest to the admin and DT members,
The reason is simple he's not accepting that he did a crime and Someone please tell me what he said in the above lines.
Well, another fact both sarul and mafiacoin can't write a post properly.

Going for a break now.

Good luck everyone

I'm just proof that you're make a false allegations about me. So sure about this account is alt him ( mafia coin ) account. About i deleted my post. And then created an another weak fact that i'm same with him who can't write post properly. Not a few members are here can't make a properly post.

I am also confused when see this, who is person behind this account now. I just know to be careful when i found an user with "This user's email address was changed recently. This user changed his/her password recently.
https://s15.postimg.org/9hsoccqmz/What_is_this.jpg

maybe this user and another user who registered on the paradice io has the same isp, or both of them on the same internet cafe. thats make the owner think this user have 40 acc+

paradice.io can't provide any proof.
he is scammer!

Please see this post:


he has not proof...

what think why yahoo give me red trust?  (without proof)

Please don't use this app!

app have malware

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I think this app made robotemplates
Czech Republic,

You can't make such baseless claims. I've sent a PM to ParaDice.io right now. Please stop PM-ing me about this as I'm busy, otherwise I'll put you on ignore and drop the case. I'll handle it when I am able to.

Because he has received something which he finds is reasonable proof.

OK, Thank you!

I have received information regarding the incident. I believe that what ParaDice.io has provided me is sufficient enough to at least prove that they are not the bad entity here. Additionally, it is highly likely, according to said proof, that you have been abusing their system. Therefore, I have no intentions of tagging ParaDice.io. Whether or not I'll tag you for abusing it, is not something that I've decided yet.

~Lauda

I can't belive it..
How can it possible?

I deposited 0.0033btc and won 0.0083.
I use autobet.. Don't use faucet.
I have txid of  my deposit, screenshot and video proof..
He don't want refund my winnings and deposit.

Do you see my video? Please see my video.

It's not fair!


What think about malware? I post proof about it..

I promised myself not to say anything until the matter is clear, which is now.

Since Lauda got the proof of mafiacoin's false accusation as he said above then he should tag mafiacoin as well his other account this is sarul.

For creating multiple accounts on forum and attacking a business's fame with those.

Thanks

Your video absolutely shows nothing of importance.

I could abuse their faucet right now too(obviously not going to), but you could have simply won a small amount from faucet, withdrew, and done a number of things to increase the sum of your bitcoins, and then redeposit.

Anyways, why are you so stressed out about 0.008 BTC? I mean, your reputation was worth way more than that. Paradice gave you a chance to learn the lesson and walk away, but you decided to defame them without any proof whatsoever. You deserve the red mark

I think abuser that created multiple account to farm faucet should be stopped, you deserved the red trust for abusing paradice.io site faucet

It's possible because you have attempted to cheat their website. I'd advise you to stop this foolish pursuit (even if you don't want to admit the obvious).

I have. It's useless.


Unless OP stops this nonsense, it is highly likely that I'll tag him for cheating the website. I'm not 100% confident to tag sarul, but I'll look into it once I have more time.

I not creating alt account!

paradice.io scamer and stole my depost 0.0033BTC

i won 0.0083

I not cheat!
do you see my deposit TXID?
He stole my 0.0033BTC

ok. i post strategy how to easy win here..
and this case repeat..


what think about it ?
similar case..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1844659.msg18748173#msg18748173


how clear my red trust?

Yes he manipulate roll

OMG!!!

we catch him.

fake seed!!!

sha256(cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388) = 5fd2ddf0535d8d60cb3d6f19f9a7eec8cf8211fa2ea75e902a730b5c1f7c6a91

Last Bet:

Server Seed sha256:

5fd2ddf0535d8d60cb3d6f19f9a7eec8cf8211fa2ea75e902a730b5c1f7c6a91

Server Seed:

cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388

He manipulate this digit..
cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339388
and made fake seed!!!

He use xx.xx digit only

if cange last digit result is fake!!!

sha256(cM641efQW5kDjWdBjR3Dv933GO-57.99193000000000353111317963339381)=28bb1a8cbb6d84fa150b1f0582aab210ff02bf374886f3a7c1eac539abc4726f


this is few similar case!!!

because i'm right.
i deposited 0.0033BTC
he stole it!
I don't use faucet, please see all my proof

Hello members,

Don't play on paradice.io!
He don't pay! Can't withdraw!
SCAM!