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MafiaCoin (OP)
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April 20, 2017, 03:48:45 PM Last edit: April 20, 2017, 04:27:18 PM by MafiaCoin |
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Yeps lol that is a funny fact I just looked to their both account and translated their post in local it seem both is from the same country I guess? wrong! i deposited 0.0033, won 0.0083 BTCHe won 0.033
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coin.trader
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April 20, 2017, 04:15:05 PM |
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Yeps lol that is a funny fact I just looked to their both account and translated their post in local it seem both is from the same country I guess? wrong! i deposited 0.0033, won 0.083 BTCHe won 0.033 Dude you're idiot already, stop acting like a kid.
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Roboabhishek
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April 20, 2017, 04:18:49 PM |
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Yeps lol that is a funny fact I just looked to their both account and translated their post in local it seem both is from the same country I guess? wrong! i deposited 0.0033, won 0.083 BTCHe won 0.033 I think this guy has no life for sure, With his talks, he seems like a kid who's lollipop is snatched ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Again fun part his 0.0083 turned into 0.083 within 24 hours ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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MafiaCoin (OP)
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April 20, 2017, 04:28:07 PM |
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I think this guy has no life for sure, With his talks, he seems like a kid who's lollipop is snatched ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Again fun part his 0.0083 turned into 0.083 within 24 hours ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) sorry 0.0083 BTC please see video
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Avirunes
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April 20, 2017, 05:05:51 PM |
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We're sorry this happened in early start of our casino.
We've already paid even if we had evidences user: "bomberman" 0.1+ bitcoins. Also we have evidences that user mafiacoin and sarul are the same users.
We don't want to create a precedent by posting user's ip here, only if it will be mandatory. He also declared he never used VPN or Tor browser, it is impossible that so many accounts to be registered on same ip and all to have the same style of playing.
This user is having 37 accounts registered, he is changing accounts at every 20-30 seconds and claim the faucet on 100x bet mostly.
We will not accept this kind of behaviour on our website, in this case we decided not to withdraw his funds and to suspend his accounts for moment.
Thank you all for your interest on this problem,
Paradice.io
I fail to see any of your marks against the player MafiaCoin legit. You are blaming player for trying to double spend the transaction which never happened . Secondly I want to ask why you are disallowing withdraw on the basis of multiple account? How is it harming anyway? Claiming of giveaways from multiple accounts is a bad practice but I don't think it happened in this case. Also please note that dice sites confiscating players deposit is not a fair practice. It explains if he/she has by some means cheated by knowing seeds, but the best in that is to not allow to withdraw profits. In this I also I am unable to see player cheating by which he should be allowed full withdrawal of winning amount.
I wasn't in good impression about the site from the beginning. So hereby I would like to ask what is their hot wallet and how much they hold as of now. Please do it signed message so it clears my doubts.
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MafiaCoin (OP)
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April 20, 2017, 05:57:08 PM |
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We're sorry this happened in early start of our casino.
We've already paid even if we had evidences user: "bomberman" 0.1+ bitcoins. Also we have evidences that user mafiacoin and sarul are the same users.
We don't want to create a precedent by posting user's ip here, only if it will be mandatory. He also declared he never used VPN or Tor browser, it is impossible that so many accounts to be registered on same ip and all to have the same style of playing.
This user is having 37 accounts registered, he is changing accounts at every 20-30 seconds and claim the faucet on 100x bet mostly.
We will not accept this kind of behaviour on our website, in this case we decided not to withdraw his funds and to suspend his accounts for moment.
Thank you all for your interest on this problem,
Paradice.io
I fail to see any of your marks against the player MafiaCoin legit. You are blaming player for trying to double spend the transaction which never happened . Secondly I want to ask why you are disallowing withdraw on the basis of multiple account? How is it harming anyway? Claiming of giveaways from multiple accounts is a bad practice but I don't think it happened in this case. Also please note that dice sites confiscating players deposit is not a fair practice. It explains if he/she has by some means cheated by knowing seeds, but the best in that is to not allow to withdraw profits. In this I also I am unable to see player cheating by which he should be allowed full withdrawal of winning amount.
I wasn't in good impression about the site from the beginning. So hereby I would like to ask what is their hot wallet and how much they hold as of now. Please do it signed message so it clears my doubts. Thank for support. But my deposit and winnings can't refund. My balance is 0 now. He manipulate with balance!
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yahoo62278
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April 20, 2017, 06:59:52 PM |
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I have sent a message to the owner requesting proof of said multiple accounts and faucet abuse. If his claims are true then ill review my trust against his casino.
I do find it odd that a new casino would try to damage their reputation over some pennies. Lets see what proof is provided.
Also in response to an earlier comment, why would I tag the OP? The scam accusations section is filled with false claims and i feel there are no penalties or not enough penalties for users making false claims. If this casino proves the OP is a scammer himself there will be some new paint issued
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April 20, 2017, 10:22:44 PM |
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I have tagged the casinos account and im considering tagging the OP here as well.
Thanks! He don't want pay my winnings. Not refund my deposit. Also i dont use faucet. And made video how i played. This is proof! SCAMI don't think shouting will help at all. Why don't you show proof to everyone ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Just upload the proof video. I am sure everyone is waiting for your proof. This is not true! Every week I deduce from my account 0,0032 BTC and I have no problems. Maybe you have registered your account via VPN ?
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April 20, 2017, 10:31:48 PM |
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I feel like that the OP is obviously covering something up here. He definitely deserves a red mark from yahoo.
@Avirunes, the owner of the site is claiming that Mafiacoin has used multiple accounts to claim the faucet. Apparently 30-40 accounts are farmed this way for the faucet rewards.
That can really hurt a site, when nobody is actually depositing. Primedice disallows it, basically every site with a faucet disallows it. Especially when a site is so new it's definitely going to hurt the site is it's not stopped.
I don't think that the admin would simply scam someone for $10 when he is paying out more than that in his sig campaign and site design. If it was $1,000 then we can think about the admin scamming but if it's $10 then i think he is telling the truth.
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Your Point Is Invalid
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April 20, 2017, 10:42:15 PM |
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The story from the website's admin doesnt quite check out, the admin says the user usually claims from the faucet and make a x100 bet with his accounts, 0.00000500x100= 0.005BTC, OP has much more than that
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April 20, 2017, 10:46:07 PM |
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The story from the website's admin doesnt quite check out, the admin says the user usually claims from the faucet and make a x100 bet with his accounts, 0.00000500x100= 0.005BTC, OP has much more than that
A lot of things could have happened actually. He could have gambled up that 0.005 BTC after he hit that 100x roll and then withdrew 0.0033 of it somewhere and then deposited later after he lost the remaining balance gambling. Remember that the OP said he deposited 0.0033 BTC and then gambled it up to 0.0083 or something. It wasn't directly from the faucet. But Paradice should still provide evidence to yahoo.
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April 20, 2017, 11:12:31 PM |
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The story from the website's admin doesnt quite check out, the admin says the user usually claims from the faucet and make a x100 bet with his accounts, 0.00000500x100= 0.005BTC, OP has much more than that
0.000005*100 should be 0.0005 instead of 0.005, am I right? It would be wasting time to make many accounts claiming the faucet and bet x100 all the time just for 50k satoshi, it is not worth compared to the time needed to do it. We should wait for yahoo, if paradice can give a proper proof that mafiacoin is the one who is wrong here then he will get his account clear. Otherwise, paradice deserve the red tag cause they cant pay so small amount of winning.
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April 20, 2017, 11:48:44 PM |
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The story from the website's admin doesnt quite check out, the admin says the user usually claims from the faucet and make a x100 bet with his accounts, 0.00000500x100= 0.005BTC, OP has much more than that
0.000005*100 should be 0.0005 instead of 0.005, am I right? It would be wasting time to make many accounts claiming the faucet and bet x100 all the time just for 50k satoshi, it is not worth compared to the time needed to do it. We should wait for yahoo, if paradice can give a proper proof that mafiacoin is the one who is wrong here then he will get his account clear. Otherwise, paradice deserve the red tag cause they cant pay so small amount of winning. What likely happened was that he abused the faucets regularly and saved it up somewhere, and decided to deposit some of his faucet reaping rewards one day to gamble it up to .008, and that's when he was found out. Yes, hopefully paradice can provide yahoo with proof that is needed. And you'd be surprised how little people work for in remote areas of the world. For some abusing the faucet even if it is just 100 satoshis means that they are getting better pay than they would if they got a part time job.
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MafiaCoin (OP)
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April 21, 2017, 01:20:06 AM |
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I have sent a message to the owner requesting proof of said multiple accounts and faucet abuse. If his claims are true then ill review my trust against his casino.
I do find it odd that a new casino would try to damage their reputation over some pennies. Lets see what proof is provided.
Also in response to an earlier comment, why would I tag the OP? The scam accusations section is filled with false claims and i feel there are no penalties or not enough penalties for users making false claims. If this casino proves the OP is a scammer himself there will be some new paint issued
Also i post link with video proof.. that my 1 acc use autobet and win. 500sat is very low for winning because i deposited 0.0033btc. he does not have proof.
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MafiaCoin (OP)
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April 21, 2017, 01:32:35 AM |
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The story from the website's admin doesnt quite check out, the admin says the user usually claims from the faucet and make a x100 bet with his accounts, 0.00000500x100= 0.005BTC, OP has much more than that
because admin is cheater and scammer. I have proof that i use autobet with x1.10 this is not x100 please see video
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April 21, 2017, 01:35:17 AM |
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The story from the website's admin doesnt quite check out, the admin says the user usually claims from the faucet and make a x100 bet with his accounts, 0.00000500x100= 0.005BTC, OP has much more than that
because admin is cheater and scammer. I have proof that i use autobet with x1.10 this is not x100 please see video Admin accussed you of abusing faucet by claiming it and doing 100x rolls, he never said anything about your betting habits. Your video already shows you at 0.0083 which means that it doesn't make a difference at all to your case. I have sent a message to the owner requesting proof of said multiple accounts and faucet abuse. If his claims are true then ill review my trust against his casino.
I do find it odd that a new casino would try to damage their reputation over some pennies. Lets see what proof is provided.
Also in response to an earlier comment, why would I tag the OP? The scam accusations section is filled with false claims and i feel there are no penalties or not enough penalties for users making false claims. If this casino proves the OP is a scammer himself there will be some new paint issued
Also i post link with video proof.. that my 1 acc use autobet and win. 500sat is very low for winning because i deposited 0.0033btc. he does not have proof. He has logs of IP probably, and if he can provide that proof to yahoo then he can clear his name.
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MafiaCoin (OP)
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April 21, 2017, 02:18:16 AM |
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The story from the website's admin doesnt quite check out, the admin says the user usually claims from the faucet and make a x100 bet with his accounts, 0.00000500x100= 0.005BTC, OP has much more than that
because admin is cheater and scammer. I have proof that i use autobet with x1.10 this is not x100 please see video Admin accussed you of abusing faucet by claiming it and doing 100x rolls, he never said anything about your betting habits. Your video already shows you at 0.0083 which means that it doesn't make a difference at all to your case. I have sent a message to the owner requesting proof of said multiple accounts and faucet abuse. If his claims are true then ill review my trust against his casino.
I do find it odd that a new casino would try to damage their reputation over some pennies. Lets see what proof is provided.
Also in response to an earlier comment, why would I tag the OP? The scam accusations section is filled with false claims and i feel there are no penalties or not enough penalties for users making false claims. If this casino proves the OP is a scammer himself there will be some new paint issued
Also i post link with video proof.. that my 1 acc use autobet and win. 500sat is very low for winning because i deposited 0.0033btc. he does not have proof. He has logs of IP probably, and if he can provide that proof to yahoo then he can clear his name. Log is not proof. He can fake it. also he deleted my account https://paradice.io/index.php?unique=GRgTjGzzFXm1cBTch2DgWJNLxTrtefcE#If account deleted.. proof has not exist.
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Avirunes
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April 21, 2017, 02:41:51 AM |
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The story from the website's admin doesnt quite check out, the admin says the user usually claims from the faucet and make a x100 bet with his accounts, 0.00000500x100= 0.005BTC, OP has much more than that
The thing is ,was the aforesaid amount of balance was from the deposited amount or from the faucet? If it was from faucet then casino has it. While if it is from deposit then casino has to explain on what basis are they chancing arms on his deposit + profit ( unless casino proves that he won in illegitimate way)
So far statement from casino's side is not checking out just like Your point is invalid explained plus another one earlier.
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MafiaCoin (OP)
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April 21, 2017, 02:50:21 AM |
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The story from the website's admin doesnt quite check out, the admin says the user usually claims from the faucet and make a x100 bet with his accounts, 0.00000500x100= 0.005BTC, OP has much more than that
The thing is ,was the aforesaid amount of balance was from the deposited amount or from the faucet? If it was from faucet then casino has it. While if it is from deposit then casino has to explain on what basis are they chancing arms on his deposit + profit ( unless casino proves that he won in illegitimate way)
So far statement from casino's side is not checking out just like Your point is invalid explained plus another one earlier. I use only deposit 0.0033btc. and post my tx. admin don't want refund my deposit too.. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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