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Title: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Masha Sha on April 20, 2017, 12:22:12 PM
Again! Quaddafi, bashar, kim... how lower can lavrov and his master go?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-blocks-u-n-statement-condemning-north-korea-despite-chinese-support/

And flying bombers near alaska... going very rogue they are. They seem to believe that trump and the troompallas are palacebuffons. They may be right (about the trumpies).

Now it's simple, become a dictator in your country of birth (soverignty is dear to russians), kill your opponents (chemicalless) and be supported fully by russia (as long as the putinists are alive).

Time to look in africa for lavrov team, lot of cooperation and mutual agreements to sign!

What a shame...


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: cybersofts on April 20, 2017, 01:42:38 PM
Again! Quaddafi, bashar, kim... how lower can lavrov and his master go?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-blocks-u-n-statement-condemning-north-korea-despite-chinese-support/

And flying bombers near alaska... going very rogue they are. They seem to believe that trump and the troompallas are palacebuffons. They may be right (about the trumpies).

Now it's simple, become a dictator in your country of birth (soverignty is dear to russians), kill your opponents (chemicalless) and be supported fully by russia (as long as the putinists are alive).

Time to look in africa for lavrov team, lot of cooperation and mutual agreements to sign!

What a shame...

The answer is simple; The enemy of my enemy is my friend, dude!


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Podgor on April 20, 2017, 02:33:49 PM
It's all about the power like Russia had to support Assad in Syria after CIA created ISIS.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Barrymore on April 20, 2017, 02:42:04 PM
Again! Quaddafi, bashar, kim... how lower can lavrov and his master go?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-blocks-u-n-statement-condemning-north-korea-despite-chinese-support/

And flying bombers near alaska... going very rogue they are. They seem to believe that trump and the troompallas are palacebuffons. They may be right (about the trumpies).

Now it's simple, become a dictator in your country of birth (soverignty is dear to russians), kill your opponents (chemicalless) and be supported fully by russia (as long as the putinists are alive).

Time to look in africa for lavrov team, lot of cooperation and mutual agreements to sign!

What a shame...

The answer is simple; The enemy of my enemy is my friend, dude!
If you look at what Putin has no other friends, it characterizes Putin himself. Remember the Russian proverb "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are". It seems to me that Americans are struggling with the investigation and are not fighting the cause. The reason for this is Putin.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Mometaskers on April 20, 2017, 02:54:27 PM
Even China is already getting tired of Kim's antics. After all, they're neighbors and it's always irritating when they make so much noise. Especially if that noise is the sound of nukes going off.

And still in all these, Russia is still a friend. Maybe they just haven't realized the weight of the matter. At least Assad don't have nukes. We all know they are all playing the big game but that shouldn't blind them to the overall effects.

More likely that change in NoKor would be coming from China rather than Russia. A less belligerent regime would be beneficial to the region but at the same time China wouldn't want a pro-American gov't in NoKor.


The answer is simple; The enemy of my enemy is my friend, dude!

This is true in whatever scale.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 20, 2017, 03:01:57 PM
In the past, Russia has supported Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, and Bashar al Assad. On each of these occasions, they were proven right. After the fall of Gaddafi, Libya became a paradise for human smugglers. And when Saddam was ousted, he was replaced by Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. Now the Americans are trying to topple Bashar al Assad, fully knowing that the ISIS will replace him.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on April 20, 2017, 04:38:49 PM
In the past, Russia has supported Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, and Bashar al Assad. On each of these occasions, they were proven right. After the fall of Gaddafi, Libya became a paradise for human smugglers. And when Saddam was ousted, he was replaced by Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. Now the Americans are trying to topple Bashar al Assad, fully knowing that the ISIS will replace him.

Sigh. And America has also supported dictators in the past, remember when dictatorships like Marcos were rampant during the Cold War era? And that only to stop the spread of communism. Russia and US basically played Earth like a chessboard those days.

There was no denying Saddam was horrible... how many times has he tried invading his neighbors? I'm not sure about Gaddaffi but he probably also did some horrible stuff to some people there (he did provide them education and internet, and that was his downfall). But however horrible they may be, they kept all these radicals in check and whatever troubles they have usually stayed within their borders.

I agree they should have been replaced, but more gradually, with enough time for democratic institutions to built up first..  :-[


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 21, 2017, 01:59:26 AM
In the past, Russia has supported Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, and Bashar al Assad. On each of these occasions, they were proven right. After the fall of Gaddafi, Libya became a paradise for human smugglers. And when Saddam was ousted, he was replaced by Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. Now the Americans are trying to topple Bashar al Assad, fully knowing that the ISIS will replace him.

Sigh. And America has also supported dictators in the past, remember when dictatorships like Marcos were rampant during the Cold War era? And that only to stop the spread of communism. Russia and US basically played Earth like a chessboard those days.

There was no denying Saddam was horrible... how many times has he tried invading his neighbors? I'm not sure about Gaddaffi but he probably also did some horrible stuff to some people there (he did provide them education and internet, and that was his downfall). But however horrible they may be, they kept all these radicals in check and whatever troubles they have usually stayed within their borders.

I agree they should have been replaced, but more gradually, with enough time for democratic institutions to built up first..  :-[

They should have been overthrown by the locals, and not by the Americans. Who gave the Americans the permission to topple the governments all over the world? They should stop playing the world police.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Daniel91 on April 21, 2017, 07:26:07 PM
It's obvious that Putin wants to restore old Russian empire or USSR.
He is doing everything in his power to keep control over the territory of the former USSR, ruining governments that oppose him, like in Ukraine or Georgia, and supporting friendly governments in Belarus, for example.
North Korea, Libya, Iraq, Syria etc. for Putin are just chess figures, in his game for global power and dominance.
Putin also using natural resources, like oil and gas, in order to dominate Europe and other countries.
Putin don't care about nuclear weapons in North Korea.
For him is only important to create as many problems as possible to America, so that he can have more freedom to do what he wants in other countries.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: darkangel11 on April 21, 2017, 08:51:16 PM
Russia used to make friends with other socialist countries. They smuggled weapons to Vietnam, sold their old ships to China, and now they're trying to help Kim stand his ground.
It's understandable that they don't want to allow USA  to tip the balance of power. Kim is one of the few people crazy enough to attack USA and that would be an opportunity for Putin.
Who knows what he's planning, I'd expect an annexation of Ukraine or something like that.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: saddampbuh on April 21, 2017, 11:14:16 PM
i don't see koreans sailing around the world dropping bombs on a new country every other month for no good reason. the dprk isn't bothering anyone and neither for that matter are the other nations jewmerica labels as "bad guys" such as syria iran or the palestinians. it is only in the minds of brainwashed westerners that they are the aggressors.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 22, 2017, 03:23:05 AM
Russia used to make friends with other socialist countries. They smuggled weapons to Vietnam, sold their old ships to China, and now they're trying to help Kim stand his ground.
It's understandable that they don't want to allow USA  to tip the balance of power. Kim is one of the few people crazy enough to attack USA and that would be an opportunity for Putin.
Who knows what he's planning, I'd expect an annexation of Ukraine or something like that.

Russia and China don't want any more American military bases on their borders, and that is the only reason why they are supporting Kim Jong Un. How would the Americans feel, if Russia sets up military bases along the US-Mexican border?


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on April 25, 2017, 07:33:42 PM
In the past, Russia has supported Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, and Bashar al Assad. On each of these occasions, they were proven right. After the fall of Gaddafi, Libya became a paradise for human smugglers. And when Saddam was ousted, he was replaced by Abu Bakr al Baghdadi. Now the Americans are trying to topple Bashar al Assad, fully knowing that the ISIS will replace him.

Sigh. And America has also supported dictators in the past, remember when dictatorships like Marcos were rampant during the Cold War era? And that only to stop the spread of communism. Russia and US basically played Earth like a chessboard those days.

There was no denying Saddam was horrible... how many times has he tried invading his neighbors? I'm not sure about Gaddaffi but he probably also did some horrible stuff to some people there (he did provide them education and internet, and that was his downfall). But however horrible they may be, they kept all these radicals in check and whatever troubles they have usually stayed within their borders.

I agree they should have been replaced, but more gradually, with enough time for democratic institutions to built up first..  :-[

They should have been overthrown by the locals, and not by the Americans. Who gave the Americans the permission to topple the governments all over the world? They should stop playing the world police.

It's like locals can do anything. Even in China, they'll just take you if you're a dissident. It's not like the people there can do anything without outside intervention. This is where China and America come in. It is to America's benefit that there is no dictator there threatening to nuke everything. It is to China's benefit that their neighbor don't get embroiled in nasty, if not radioactive, war.

Best option without needing anyone to invade someone? Regime change. Just kick fat Mickey out and replace him with a more docile leader. Since the regime's policy of deifying eternal grampa Kim probably already got up people's brains, they would need to select from the Kim family. Mickey probably already realized this as he has already started killing relatives.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Maximilian_333 on April 25, 2017, 07:38:23 PM
Russia used to make friends with other socialist countries. They smuggled weapons to Vietnam, sold their old ships to China, and now they're trying to help Kim stand his ground.
It's understandable that they don't want to allow USA  to tip the balance of power. Kim is one of the few people crazy enough to attack USA and that would be an opportunity for Putin.
Who knows what he's planning, I'd expect an annexation of Ukraine or something like that.

Russia and China don't want any more American military bases on their borders, and that is the only reason why they are supporting Kim Jong Un. How would the Americans feel, if Russia sets up military bases along the US-Mexican border?
And today Russia has no American troops on its border? The Russians themselves are to blame. Not only do they attack their neighbors, but also constantly provoke the West. For this reason, it turns out everything is just the opposite.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: gentlemand on April 25, 2017, 07:40:27 PM
Russia wants to appear to be a world power, though I've no fucking idea why as it's a pointless and wasteful role.

To do that I suppose they decide to prop up the cheapest options out there with the most to gain from being given a hand job by them. And it annoys everyone else.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: ValeryBark on April 25, 2017, 07:45:23 PM
If the Russians know that their country is shit, and they are the poor slaves that will lead to the fact that Putin's throw from the Kremlin. He is very afraid and therefore tries to maintain the myth about the greatness of Russia.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 26, 2017, 04:47:00 AM
And today Russia has no American troops on its border? The Russians themselves are to blame. Not only do they attack their neighbors, but also constantly provoke the West. For this reason, it turns out everything is just the opposite.

Russia has American troops on its borders, especially in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. But Russia has not invaded any of these nations. And regarding Ukraine, there was no Russian invasion. There is an ongoing civil war between the Westerners and the Easterners, and Russia is not directly involved.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Masha Sha on April 26, 2017, 05:32:18 AM
Russia wants to appear to be a world power, though I've no fucking idea why as it's a pointless and wasteful role.

To do that I suppose they decide to prop up the cheapest options out there with the most to gain from being given a hand job by them. And it annoys everyone else.

If the Russians know that their country is shit, and they are the poor slaves that will lead to the fact that Putin's throw from the Kremlin. He is very afraid and therefore tries to maintain the myth about the greatness of Russia.

It would be sad if true. From going to stars to that...


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: mainpmf on April 26, 2017, 08:15:38 AM
They should have been overthrown by the locals, and not by the Americans. Who gave the Americans the permission to topple the governments all over the world? They should stop playing the world police.

Lol, the instant they stop making war all over the world, USA is dead.

USA is a just a vampire eating from several corpses at the same time. They need ressources and money from all over the world to support their stupid way of life. They can't allow anyone to even slightly defy them or they'd be completely destroyed by their own stupidity and internal politics.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Aikonio on April 26, 2017, 08:39:50 AM
Russia wants to appear to be a world power, though I've no fucking idea why as it's a pointless and wasteful role.

To do that I suppose they decide to prop up the cheapest options out there with the most to gain from being given a hand job by them. And it annoys everyone else.

Russia does not want to seem like a world power, and it is a strong world power led by a powerful ruler. And it really annoys everyone, but they can not do anything.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 26, 2017, 08:52:39 AM
Russia wants to appear to be a world power, though I've no fucking idea why as it's a pointless and wasteful role.

To do that I suppose they decide to prop up the cheapest options out there with the most to gain from being given a hand job by them. And it annoys everyone else.

Russia does not want to seem like a world power, and it is a strong world power led by a powerful ruler. And it really annoys everyone, but they can not do anything.

Russia is still a shadow of its former self. If you compare Russia as of now and the USSR of the early 1980s, then it is clear. The USSR had a population of close to 300 million, and their armed forces were as powerful as that of the United States. Now if you look at Russia, it is having a population of only around 145 million, and the armed forces are clearly inferior to that of the Americans. That said, their resurgence after 1999, when Putin took over has been nothing short of a miracle.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Forester618 on April 26, 2017, 12:21:30 PM
Russia wants to appear to be a world power, though I've no fucking idea why as it's a pointless and wasteful role.

To do that I suppose they decide to prop up the cheapest options out there with the most to gain from being given a hand job by them. And it annoys everyone else.

Russia does not want to seem like a world power, and it is a strong world power led by a powerful ruler. And it really annoys everyone, but they can not do anything.

Russia is still a shadow of its former self. If you compare Russia as of now and the USSR of the early 1980s, then it is clear. The USSR had a population of close to 300 million, and their armed forces were as powerful as that of the United States. Now if you look at Russia, it is having a population of only around 145 million, and the armed forces are clearly inferior to that of the Americans. That said, their resurgence after 1999, when Putin took over has been nothing short of a miracle.
Under Putin, Russia has become even worse than it was. How would Putin's propaganda did not shout about their successes really demonstrate to them no one can. Russian during this time quarreled with almost all its neighbours. Now is a potential enemy. Modern Russian weapons too, on their own can not do, and components abroad can not buy because they are under sanctions.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Malsetid on April 26, 2017, 02:14:17 PM
Russia wants to appear to be a world power, though I've no fucking idea why as it's a pointless and wasteful role.

To do that I suppose they decide to prop up the cheapest options out there with the most to gain from being given a hand job by them. And it annoys everyone else.

Russia does not want to seem like a world power, and it is a strong world power led by a powerful ruler. And it really annoys everyone, but they can not do anything.

Russia is still a shadow of its former self. If you compare Russia as of now and the USSR of the early 1980s, then it is clear. The USSR had a population of close to 300 million, and their armed forces were as powerful as that of the United States. Now if you look at Russia, it is having a population of only around 145 million, and the armed forces are clearly inferior to that of the Americans. That said, their resurgence after 1999, when Putin took over has been nothing short of a miracle.
Under Putin, Russia has become even worse than it was. How would Putin's propaganda did not shout about their successes really demonstrate to them no one can. Russian during this time quarreled with almost all its neighbours. Now is a potential enemy. Modern Russian weapons too, on their own can not do, and components abroad can not buy because they are under sanctions.
Well that could also be because there are a lot of international rules now that putin choosesnto follow compared to before. I think it's safe for us that russia isn't as powerful as back then but still they have a very good capability of causing damage to any nation. Though i don't think putin would be that dumb to initiate any conflicts that he knows may very well destroy his people


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on April 26, 2017, 02:48:45 PM
And today Russia has no American troops on its border? The Russians themselves are to blame. Not only do they attack their neighbors, but also constantly provoke the West. For this reason, it turns out everything is just the opposite.

Russia has American troops on its borders, especially in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. But Russia has not invaded any of these nations. And regarding Ukraine, there was no Russian invasion. There is an ongoing civil war between the Westerners and the Easterners, and Russia is not directly involved.


Might be the reason they're not invading? And also, didn't Russia just ANNEXED Crimea?


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Alexzap on April 26, 2017, 03:58:15 PM
And today Russia has no American troops on its border? The Russians themselves are to blame. Not only do they attack their neighbors, but also constantly provoke the West. For this reason, it turns out everything is just the opposite.

Russia has American troops on its borders, especially in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. But Russia has not invaded any of these nations. And regarding Ukraine, there was no Russian invasion. There is an ongoing civil war between the Westerners and the Easterners, and Russia is not directly involved.
LOL! Precisely Russia and the war in those countries. Who fought in Georgia? About the purchase of weapons and tanks in stores Putin laugh the whole world. You have outdated techniques. Already Putin himself acknowledged that Russian troops were involved in the seizure of Crimea. In Ukraine there is no civil war, and Russian will answer for it as answered Hitler's Germany.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 27, 2017, 04:03:17 AM
And also, didn't Russia just ANNEXED Crimea?

Crimea was part of Russia from 1783 to 1954. In 1954, the ethnic Ukrainian Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea to Ukraine illegally, despite the peninsula having a solid ethnic Russian majority. As a result of ethnicide from the Ukrainians (such as ban on the usage of Russian language), the Crimeans voted to go back to Russia. There was no annexation.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Marcus_2017 on April 27, 2017, 07:29:33 PM
And also, didn't Russia just ANNEXED Crimea?

Crimea was part of Russia from 1783 to 1954. In 1954, the ethnic Ukrainian Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea to Ukraine illegally, despite the peninsula having a solid ethnic Russian majority. As a result of ethnicide from the Ukrainians (such as ban on the usage of Russian language), the Crimeans voted to go back to Russia. There was no annexation.
The world does not recognize the annexation of Crimea. Only Russians think so. Also peoples have the right to self-determination but only a part of the country on whose territory they reside. You forgot the reaction of Russia to self-determination of the Chechen Republic?


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on April 27, 2017, 09:15:05 PM
And also, didn't Russia just ANNEXED Crimea?

Crimea was part of Russia from 1783 to 1954. In 1954, the ethnic Ukrainian Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea to Ukraine illegally, despite the peninsula having a solid ethnic Russian majority. As a result of ethnicide from the Ukrainians (such as ban on the usage of Russian language), the Crimeans voted to go back to Russia. There was no annexation.

I don't remember any voting to secede taking place. All I remember is there was a "coup" which installed a pro-EU president. Before anyone can say cheese, bam, you already have heavily-armed, pro-Russia "rebels" in Crimea. Then you have Russian forces in, taking control of the place.

Also, aren't Russians not the true natives there? I believe Empress Catherine expelled the Tatars when Russia first annexed Crimea.

And also, didn't Russia just ANNEXED Crimea?

Crimea was part of Russia from 1783 to 1954. In 1954, the ethnic Ukrainian Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea to Ukraine illegally, despite the peninsula having a solid ethnic Russian majority. As a result of ethnicide from the Ukrainians (such as ban on the usage of Russian language), the Crimeans voted to go back to Russia. There was no annexation.
The world does not recognize the annexation of Crimea. Only Russians think so. Also peoples have the right to self-determination but only a part of the country on whose territory they reside. You forgot the reaction of Russia to self-determination of the Chechen Republic?

Maybe because they're not ethnic Russians? Ethnic Russians in former Soviet states outside Russia are valuable because it gives Kremlin a "just" reason to interfere in their behalf.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Lancusters on April 27, 2017, 09:32:44 PM
And also, didn't Russia just ANNEXED Crimea?

Crimea was part of Russia from 1783 to 1954. In 1954, the ethnic Ukrainian Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea to Ukraine illegally, despite the peninsula having a solid ethnic Russian majority. As a result of ethnicide from the Ukrainians (such as ban on the usage of Russian language), the Crimeans voted to go back to Russia. There was no annexation.

I don't remember any voting to secede taking place. All I remember is there was a "coup" which installed a pro-EU president. Before anyone can say cheese, bam, you already have heavily-armed, pro-Russia "rebels" in Crimea. Then you have Russian forces in, taking control of the place.

Also, aren't Russians not the true natives there? I believe Empress Catherine expelled the Tatars when Russia first annexed Crimea.

And also, didn't Russia just ANNEXED Crimea?

Crimea was part of Russia from 1783 to 1954. In 1954, the ethnic Ukrainian Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea to Ukraine illegally, despite the peninsula having a solid ethnic Russian majority. As a result of ethnicide from the Ukrainians (such as ban on the usage of Russian language), the Crimeans voted to go back to Russia. There was no annexation.
The world does not recognize the annexation of Crimea. Only Russians think so. Also peoples have the right to self-determination but only a part of the country on whose territory they reside. You forgot the reaction of Russia to self-determination of the Chechen Republic?

Maybe because they're not ethnic Russians? Ethnic Russians in former Soviet states outside Russia are valuable because it gives Kremlin a "just" reason to interfere in their behalf.
Will not be ethnic Russians there are other reasons. Do you remember how the Russians provoked Georgia? Just Russian President provocateur and his dream to restore the Soviet Union. Too bad that the West did ttot do not understand and very little response to it.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 28, 2017, 05:41:43 AM
The world does not recognize the annexation of Crimea. Only Russians think so. Also peoples have the right to self-determination but only a part of the country on whose territory they reside. You forgot the reaction of Russia to self-determination of the Chechen Republic?

Before the disintegration of the USSR, around one-third of the population of Chechenya was Christian and white. These people lived in the districts of Shelkovskoy and Naursky. These two districts were actually Terek Cossack homeland, but gifted to Chechenya by the Soviets (just like they gifted Crimea to Ukraine). Also, the lowland Chechens were pro-Russia and they never supported the independence movement. Less than one-third of the Chechens wanted to secede from Russia. In Crimea, more than 90% of the population wanted to be part of Russia.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Mirconome on April 28, 2017, 12:56:16 PM
And also, didn't Russia just ANNEXED Crimea?

Crimea was part of Russia from 1783 to 1954. In 1954, the ethnic Ukrainian Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea to Ukraine illegally, despite the peninsula having a solid ethnic Russian majority. As a result of ethnicide from the Ukrainians (such as ban on the usage of Russian language), the Crimeans voted to go back to Russia. There was no annexation.
The world does not recognize the annexation of Crimea. Only Russians think so. Also peoples have the right to self-determination but only a part of the country on whose territory they reside. You forgot the reaction of Russia to self-determination of the Chechen Republic?

It is only the world government that can not recognize the annexation of the Crimea, because it is not profitable for them. Most of the population of Crimea and even some Ukrainians consider themselves Russians and speak Russian.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Barrymore on April 28, 2017, 01:32:49 PM
And also, didn't Russia just ANNEXED Crimea?

Crimea was part of Russia from 1783 to 1954. In 1954, the ethnic Ukrainian Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea to Ukraine illegally, despite the peninsula having a solid ethnic Russian majority. As a result of ethnicide from the Ukrainians (such as ban on the usage of Russian language), the Crimeans voted to go back to Russia. There was no annexation.
The world does not recognize the annexation of Crimea. Only Russians think so. Also peoples have the right to self-determination but only a part of the country on whose territory they reside. You forgot the reaction of Russia to self-determination of the Chechen Republic?

It is only the world government that can not recognize the annexation of the Crimea, because it is not profitable for them. Most of the population of Crimea and even some Ukrainians consider themselves Russians and speak Russian.
You confuse the question of nationality and the state. Everyone knows that in Brighton most live Russian. Imagine if the Russians take over all police stations and hold a fake referendum on the accession Brighton beach to Russia. Think about it.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on April 29, 2017, 10:31:02 PM
And also, didn't Russia just ANNEXED Crimea?

Crimea was part of Russia from 1783 to 1954. In 1954, the ethnic Ukrainian Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea to Ukraine illegally, despite the peninsula having a solid ethnic Russian majority. As a result of ethnicide from the Ukrainians (such as ban on the usage of Russian language), the Crimeans voted to go back to Russia. There was no annexation.

I don't remember any voting to secede taking place. All I remember is there was a "coup" which installed a pro-EU president. Before anyone can say cheese, bam, you already have heavily-armed, pro-Russia "rebels" in Crimea. Then you have Russian forces in, taking control of the place.

Also, aren't Russians not the true natives there? I believe Empress Catherine expelled the Tatars when Russia first annexed Crimea.

And also, didn't Russia just ANNEXED Crimea?

Crimea was part of Russia from 1783 to 1954. In 1954, the ethnic Ukrainian Nikita Khrushchev transferred Crimea to Ukraine illegally, despite the peninsula having a solid ethnic Russian majority. As a result of ethnicide from the Ukrainians (such as ban on the usage of Russian language), the Crimeans voted to go back to Russia. There was no annexation.
The world does not recognize the annexation of Crimea. Only Russians think so. Also peoples have the right to self-determination but only a part of the country on whose territory they reside. You forgot the reaction of Russia to self-determination of the Chechen Republic?

Maybe because they're not ethnic Russians? Ethnic Russians in former Soviet states outside Russia are valuable because it gives Kremlin a "just" reason to interfere in their behalf.
Will not be ethnic Russians there are other reasons. Do you remember how the Russians provoked Georgia? Just Russian President provocateur and his dream to restore the Soviet Union. Too bad that the West did ttot do not understand and very little response to it.

Seems everyone have imperialistic dreams these days.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: giantdragon on April 30, 2017, 01:39:21 AM
Everyone knows that in Brighton most live Russian. Imagine if the Russians take over all police stations and hold a fake referendum on the accession Brighton beach to Russia. Think about it.
Why not?! Putin can secretly send "green men" here, equipped with portable small-range missiles with nuclear warheads. Most likely Trump will agree to give away Brighton district and to save whole US.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Lancusters on April 30, 2017, 02:28:18 AM
Everyone knows that in Brighton most live Russian. Imagine if the Russians take over all police stations and hold a fake referendum on the accession Brighton beach to Russia. Think about it.
Why not?! Putin can secretly send "green men" here, equipped with portable small-range missiles with nuclear warheads. Most likely Trump will agree to give away Brighton district and to save whole US.
Do you think "little green men" will have a chance to return home alive? Lol! They will destroy themselves Russians who live in Brighton. They once lived in Russia and know how bad this country is. They are not in vain, he fled to America.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Sex Video Chat VKcams.com on April 30, 2017, 03:07:56 AM
Russians who live in Brighton

There is a Jew Gangs of Brighton Beach Territory.
Monya Elson,  Boris Nayfeld

http://s018.radikal.ru/i518/1704/fe/84e2d9a47b58.jpg

The Russian there is only the Language.

http://timer-odessa.net/uploads/2009/10/picturepicture12538_35373.jpg

http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/blogs/russian-mob-crew-in-brighton-beach-busted-by-dea-irs

People of Brighton "lived in Russia and know how bad this country is"


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Instamined on April 30, 2017, 03:09:20 AM
For the lols


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 30, 2017, 04:07:11 AM
Everyone knows that in Brighton most live Russian. Imagine if the Russians take over all police stations and hold a fake referendum on the accession Brighton beach to Russia. Think about it.
Why not?! Putin can secretly send "green men" here, equipped with portable small-range missiles with nuclear warheads. Most likely Trump will agree to give away Brighton district and to save whole US.

The United States of America is going to disintegrate very soon, as a result of warfare. Trump will start a war with the North Korea, and it will destroy the American economy. Another war with Iran will result in the US breaking up in to smaller nations. Once that happens, Putin can send his green men to Alaska.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Instamined on May 01, 2017, 05:49:19 AM
The United States of America is going to disintegrate very soon, as a result of warfare. Trump will start a war with the North Korea, and it will destroy the American economy. Another war with Iran will result in the US breaking up in to smaller nations. Once that happens, Putin can send his green men to Alaska.

lol, yeah right, the United States will be a 50 state union until the day you die.

The second a state came remotely close to actual secession they would be invaded and squelched by any means necessary.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: joebrook on May 01, 2017, 12:25:26 PM
The americans dont seem to learn from their mistakes and a fool who never learns is destined to repeat the same mistake over and over again. They started with Afghanistan against the Russians and they are still doing it, when you install a puppet regime they are bound to rebel at some point in time.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Prohodimec on May 01, 2017, 12:45:24 PM
The americans dont seem to learn from their mistakes and a fool who never learns is destined to repeat the same mistake over and over again. They started with Afghanistan against the Russians and they are still doing it, when you install a puppet regime they are bound to rebel at some point in time.

So they made it a tradition to repeat their mistakes, and not learn from them :)


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 02, 2017, 05:49:27 AM
The second a state came remotely close to actual secession they would be invaded and squelched by any means necessary.

Don't be so sure about it. If a large state such as Texas or California votes overwhelmingly to secede, do you really think that the remaining states will invade them? It is not practical and if it happens, then the entire nation will collapse.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: gabmen on May 04, 2017, 11:25:22 AM
The americans dont seem to learn from their mistakes and a fool who never learns is destined to repeat the same mistake over and over again. They started with Afghanistan against the Russians and they are still doing it, when you install a puppet regime they are bound to rebel at some point in time.

So they made it a tradition to repeat their mistakes, and not learn from them :)

LOL I call it cockiness and believing too much in yourself. the us needs to check itself thorougly this time and it needs to be a little more careful when dealing with russia


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Forester618 on May 04, 2017, 11:38:38 AM
The americans dont seem to learn from their mistakes and a fool who never learns is destined to repeat the same mistake over and over again. They started with Afghanistan against the Russians and they are still doing it, when you install a puppet regime they are bound to rebel at some point in time.

So they made it a tradition to repeat their mistakes, and not learn from them :)

LOL I call it cockiness and believing too much in yourself. the us needs to check itself thorougly this time and it needs to be a little more careful when dealing with russia
There is another recipe. Not to do business with Russia at all. It must be a rogue country. Remember the late 80s and early 90s. When the Soviet Union collapsed, the Russians did not poke its nose into world politics and the world was safer. Russia is the enemy of Western ideology.


Title: Re: Why is russia the only country (regime) supporting dprk at the un?
Post by: Sex Video Chat VKcams.com on May 04, 2017, 06:37:06 PM
the Russians did not poke its nose into world politics and the world was safer. Russia is the enemy of Western ideology.

the CIA soon supplied thousands of Korans (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1992/07/19/anatomy-of-a-victory-cias-covert-afghan-war/1bd10b14-a0cc-441c-99cc-d2b5d1ba6e2d/?utm_term=.82e01d043f1b)

http://data.novo24.ru/image/big/2016-09-18_23-27-30_822080.jpg

http://blogus.xyz/confidencial/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/04/bin-Laden.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone