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Title: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 12:36:28 AM
So I bought something from someone and sent them bitcoins. They didn't send me the product I bought. I know their bitcoin wallet address and can see the activity on the address. Is there a way to report or find out who they are? Thanks.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: palo on April 26, 2013, 12:38:51 AM
I don't think there is anything you can do. What did you buy?


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 12:39:48 AM
I was buying the x6500 miners from this guy. He sent me a pic of one of them mining cuz I asked for that.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 12:43:14 AM
I am going to sound really stupid for this, but he was on craigslist and held a conversation via email until I sent him the bitcoins


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: palo on April 26, 2013, 12:50:45 AM
gutted, mate. That totally sucks. I've set up a twitter account that I hope will be part of an honest club of retailers and genuine sellers, but how can you be sure? Telephone conversation?


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 12:52:28 AM
this is the guy's wallet address that he uses, and it seems he has asked others for money too.
1JHJ1xi9eRKmsbqv2AsbuuBv8N3C75ySbf

his activity:
http://blockchain.info/address/1JHJ1xi9eRKmsbqv2AsbuuBv8N3C75ySbf


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 12:56:07 AM
someone should make a giant wallet blacklist


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 01:03:44 AM
quick question:
so this is the blockchain page for the transaction in which i sent money to the guy.
http://blockchain.info/tx/99d12ad5d34f12dcff843fc46557bd8686ae88f550cbe5e0e826c0588eb61b82

that map, can someone explain it to me?


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Gator-hex on April 26, 2013, 02:00:04 AM
Always agree a $value on your bitcoin for item swap then you have a legal swap contract recognized in law.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: geewiz on April 26, 2013, 02:01:30 AM
Thats harsh :/


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 02:13:38 AM
We did have a usd value set.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 02:15:14 AM
but i dont think scammers care for the law


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 02:15:41 AM
I really really hope he got busy and couldnt reply back


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 02:39:44 AM
can you guys help me get a good miner up. I was really counting on those fpga's but thats obviously not happening. I don't have that big a budget. And after this experience i am only willing to offer cash via paypal. Any help would be much appreciated.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: eyesore on April 26, 2013, 02:46:12 AM
So I bought something from someone and sent them bitcoins. They didn't send me the product I bought. I know their bitcoin wallet address and can see the activity on the address. Is there a way to report or find out who they are? Thanks.

Where did you meet this person? what's his fourm name


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 03:03:34 AM
not on forum, he was on ccraigslist. his positing seemed legit. I was goin got ask him to send me the tracking number for the shipment before i paid him but i forgot


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: plutuswd on April 26, 2013, 03:12:10 AM
this is the guy's wallet address that he uses, and it seems he has asked others for money too.
1JHJ1xi9eRKmsbqv2AsbuuBv8N3C75ySbf

his activity:
http://blockchain.info/address/1JHJ1xi9eRKmsbqv2AsbuuBv8N3C75ySbf

that link says he got 8 BTC? That's a lot of money to be scamming people for.



Title: Re: Help!
Post by: dKingston on April 26, 2013, 04:01:14 AM
Just know about this blcokchain.info. Great info, I never know that any address can be traced.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 04:17:38 AM
this is the guy's wallet address that he uses, and it seems he has asked others for money too.
1JHJ1xi9eRKmsbqv2AsbuuBv8N3C75ySbf

his activity:
http://blockchain.info/address/1JHJ1xi9eRKmsbqv2AsbuuBv8N3C75ySbf

that link says he got 8 BTC? That's a lot of money to be scamming people for.



The thing is that everything he makes, he moves to another wallet, and that wallet sends money to another one. I got tired of tracing it but I don't know wat to make of that.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 05:04:04 AM
I'll try buying the boards with another email and see if he tries to sell them.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 05:08:35 AM
I'll try buying the boards with another email and see if he tries to sell them.
If he does I'll see what craigslist people can do as I'll have evidence of his scam


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Serjster on April 26, 2013, 05:15:35 AM
Start the conversation with a new email and if successful report him to the police, they might be willing to trace the location he's emailing from...


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: bitleif on April 26, 2013, 07:03:29 AM
someone should make a giant wallet blacklist

Hmm that gives me an idea, how about a wallet WHITELIST? Sure that kills anonymity and decentralization, but serious businesses don't need anonymity anyway.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: deepceleron on April 26, 2013, 07:25:14 AM
So you sent your money to someone you never met, over an anonymous payment network? You can contact law enforcement, but even if you said you said you wired $5000 of real dollars with Western Union to a Nigerian Prince, there isn't much they can or will do. The won't even go bust someone who stole your cel phone when you have their GPS location and a picture of them.

Search Google to find other scammers (selling a preorder for bitcoin payments only, no phone number, etc):
site:craigslist.org asic bitcoin

The highest likely IP address is http://www.speedguide.net/ip/184.5.139.15 , a Centurylink in Charlottesville, Virginia, however the other two payments that have been sent from the address have had relay connections in England and Germany, so the person likely knows how to anonymously scam.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: mises on April 26, 2013, 09:47:48 AM
Sounds like a tough situation to resolve, serves as a good warning for the rest of us. Good luck!


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: paroxetina on April 26, 2013, 09:50:18 AM
You're SOL. All you can do is spread the word on the site you bought from him on in hopes of preventing others from meeting the same fate.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 26, 2013, 01:15:30 PM
So you sent your money to someone you never met, over an anonymous payment network? You can contact law enforcement, but even if you said you said you wired $5000 of real dollars with Western Union to a Nigerian Prince, there isn't much they can or will do. The won't even go bust someone who stole your cel phone when you have their GPS location and a picture of them.

Search Google to find other scammers (selling a preorder for bitcoin payments only, no phone number, etc):
site:craigslist.org asic bitcoin

The highest likely IP address is http://www.speedguide.net/ip/184.5.139.15 , a Centurylink in Charlottesville, Virginia, however the other two payments that have been sent from the address have had relay connections in England and Germany, so the person likely knows how to anonymously scam.

Ok yeah he did say he was in virginia at the moment.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: CryptoUser01 on April 26, 2013, 01:18:36 PM
Track him down and pay him a visit? :) No, you are pretty much out of luck. I'd never pay someone I didn't know or a reputable vendor for anything with BTC. Unless it's done in person.

Good luck!


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: wtzr on April 26, 2013, 01:35:49 PM
the whole thing about bitcoin is that it's anonymous. so this will be a tough task.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: alobi on April 26, 2013, 02:20:28 PM
My BTC got stolen too, but from a hacker on bitfloor...


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 27, 2013, 06:28:58 PM
Alright I got this scumbag!He replied back to my second email address. Any recommendations on what to do now?


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: deepceleron on April 27, 2013, 07:11:34 PM
Alright I got this scumbag!He replied back to my second email address. Any recommendations on what to do now?

Send him an email asking please for a refund, as you see that ASICs won't ship for a long time. But first go to spypig.com and get a tracking image you can put in the email you send so you can get the person's real IP address.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: ensophic on April 27, 2013, 07:19:05 PM
Be careful about transactions on Craigslist. Deal locally whenever possible.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 28, 2013, 02:59:03 AM
Alright I got this scumbag!He replied back to my second email address. Any recommendations on what to do now?

Send him an email asking please for a refund, as you see that ASICs won't ship for a long time. But first go to spypig.com and get a tracking image you can put in the email you send so you can get the person's real IP address.

Thanks for that, I got his IP, his location, the type of computer and browser he is using. He is in Wisconsin. So what should be the next step? Should I report him to the police or something?


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: mvrak on April 28, 2013, 03:16:34 AM
No, there is nothing you can do from an address.  I suggest you know who the people are, buy through a system, or do whatever you can to get it back on your own.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: deepceleron on April 28, 2013, 04:22:02 AM
Alright I got this scumbag!He replied back to my second email address. Any recommendations on what to do now?

Send him an email asking please for a refund, as you see that ASICs won't ship for a long time. But first go to spypig.com and get a tracking image you can put in the email you send so you can get the person's real IP address.

Thanks for that, I got his IP, his location, the type of computer and browser he is using. He is in Wisconsin. So what should be the next step? Should I report him to the police or something?
There are websites (http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/) where you can see if the IP address is a Tor exit node - if it is, then the information is useless. You can at least use the information to more forcefully demand a refund.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 28, 2013, 05:36:55 AM
Yeah his ip isnt on the list. And i am conversing with him now. have been checking his ip every email and it has changed, becuz he changed computers. He claims to be in virginia for some emergency, and is willing to meet me if I drive down there. Should I agree to that and if he is serious about it, report that to the authorities, after deciding on a location and time? Or am I going too far?


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: pheaonix on April 28, 2013, 06:26:31 AM
Yeah his ip isnt on the list. And i am conversing with him now. have been checking his ip every email and it has changed, becuz he changed computers. He claims to be in virginia for some emergency, and is willing to meet me if I drive down there. Should I agree to that and if he is serious about it, report that to the authorities, after deciding on a location and time? Or am I going too far?

teach him a lesson he won't forget, and get your coins back


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Random Bit on April 28, 2013, 06:32:40 AM
Unfortunately Craigslist is full of scum, this guy could be anywhere.  He's most likely trolling you on the meetup. Have a nice drive and enjoy the day if you like.  My bet is he won't be there when you arrive.


Title: Re: Help!
Post by: zaidhorse on April 28, 2013, 06:55:39 AM
Most likely not, the guy's ip is in Wisconsin and he wants to meet in virginia.