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Title: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: Marrs on April 26, 2013, 12:40:54 PM
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/butterfly/

If you were on the fence about ordering one, you probably just got another few thousand orders in front of you from bitcoin newbies after this article.

Cue the usual suspects whining about how Wired is now shilling for BFL because they were sent a $300 device to review.



Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: seleme on April 26, 2013, 12:52:43 PM
Well, they're doing their best to take more money from people who are not familiar with their timelines.


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: Newscastix on April 26, 2013, 12:53:19 PM

This will be biggest pesudeo-scam in history.... millions flocking in to buy BFL miners now because of this... only getting their devices when difficulty is beyond evil...  ;D

laughing at the end: BFL



Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: Big Time Coin on April 26, 2013, 01:42:52 PM
FTA: "The company says that its systems will continue to trickle out, with another 75 to 150 shipping in the next few weeks"

So that's what they told Wired - 75 to 150 shipping = at most 5 * 150 = 750 GH/s shipping by mid May.  That's like 10 avalons.


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: ionux on April 26, 2013, 01:47:45 PM
Where are the "locusts" descending on the post office?


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: BBQKorv on April 26, 2013, 05:50:18 PM
They need all the press coverage they can get. If there is no new orders coming in at a constant rate, they'll just go bankrupt. Too bad newbies don't have a clue about BFL's delivery schedule (does anyone have?  ;D)


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: pekv2 on April 26, 2013, 05:54:10 PM
Damnit, shipping all these jalapenos to certain people, ship the stronger machine to asic.coop.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88008.0


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: CrazyGuy on April 26, 2013, 05:59:03 PM
It wasn't the most flattering article. He mentioned the delays and 1000s of backordered units, but I didn't see any mention of how much cash it generates. I can't see it pushing too many new sales.


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: k9quaint on April 26, 2013, 06:06:01 PM
Gigahashes are almost the new Megahashes.


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 26, 2013, 06:08:08 PM
It wasn't the most flattering article. He mentioned the delays and 1000s of backordered units, but I didn't see any mention of how much cash it generates. I can't see it pushing too many new sales.

That's because everyone flogged him on Twitter before he could write the article and told him the truth. BFL plan backfire extrodinaré.


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: Hiroaki on April 26, 2013, 08:29:32 PM
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a.k.a. our very own digital money printing press.

I am sure this article will interest more people about Bitcoin and especially BFL.
I am curious with how many law suits BFL currently has to deal... ::)


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: CoinHoarder on April 26, 2013, 10:31:37 PM
"The company says that its systems will continue to trickle out, with another 75 to 150 shipping in the next few weeks."

LOL- not quite 400/day. I called BS on the 400 a day number a long time ago. Whether they will be able to obtain this number eventually remains to be seen, but for now they are still failing big time.

I'd go so far as to wager that the Avalon chips I'm ordering through a group buy (that haven't even been ordered yet) will be made into an ASIC and hashing in my possession before any BFL order that was made this month. If anyone wants to take me up on this bet, let me know! I like free money!  ;)


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: Schrankwand on April 26, 2013, 10:54:06 PM
"The company says that its systems will continue to trickle out, with another 75 to 150 shipping in the next few weeks."

LOL- not quite 400/day. I called BS on the 400 a day number a long time ago. Whether they will be able to obtain this number eventually remains to be seen, but for now they are still failing big time.

I'd go so far as to wager that the Avalon chips I'm ordering through a group buy (that haven't even been ordered yet) will be made into an ASIC and hashing in my possession before any BFL order that was made this month. If anyone wants to take me up on this bet, let me know! I like free money!  ;)

When you findsomeone betting against that, please let me know, I want to bet with him too, on the same group buy and ASIC situation :D


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: Hiroaki on April 26, 2013, 11:14:41 PM
"The company says that its systems will continue to trickle out, with another 75 to 150 shipping in the next few weeks."

LOL- not quite 400/day. I called BS on the 400 a day number a long time ago. Whether they will be able to obtain this number eventually remains to be seen, but for now they are still failing big time.

I'd go so far as to wager that the Avalon chips I'm ordering through a group buy (that haven't even been ordered yet) will be made into an ASIC and hashing in my possession before any BFL order that was made this month. If anyone wants to take me up on this bet, let me know! I like free money!  ;)

When you findsomeone betting against that, please let me know, I want to bet with him too, on the same group buy and ASIC situation :D


Who wouldn't probably BFL is currently ordering AVALON chips  ::)


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: erk on April 26, 2013, 11:41:45 PM

Who wouldn't probably BFL is currently ordering AVALON chips  ::)

Why would they? Avalon chips are inferior GHs/watt.

Work it out for yourself.

Avalon 66GHs @620watts = 9.4Watts/GHs
BFLabs 5 GHs @30watts = 6.0Watts/GHs





Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: Bitsaurus on April 27, 2013, 02:32:17 AM

Who wouldn't probably BFL is currently ordering AVALON chips  ::)

Why would they? Avalon chips are inferior GHs/watt.

Work it out for yourself.

Avalon 66GHs @620watts = 9.4Watts/GHs
BFLabs 5 GHs @30watts = 6.0Watts/GHs





Why don't you calculate the inferiority based on earnings.

Avalon Batch 1 initially make 0.15BTC/day/GH
BFL's 5GH will arrive in mid 2013 make 0.05BTC/day/GH

Or are you one of those mystical time travelers and find time dilation consequences immaterial?  Hey, is that your magic unicorn saddled over, what a noble stead!


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: ryepdx on April 27, 2013, 02:46:11 AM

Why would they? Avalon chips are inferior GHs/watt.

Work it out for yourself.

Avalon 66GHs @620watts = 9.4Watts/GHs
BFLabs 5 GHs @30watts = 6.0Watts/GHs

The problem with your comparison is that the Avalon is a standalone unit, whereas the BFL needs to be plugged into a computer. If you've got a Raspberry Pi controlling it, then that doesn't add much where power consumption is concerned. But I feel like most people won't be using a Raspberry Pi or anything of that sort...


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: Bitsaurus on April 27, 2013, 02:52:47 AM

Why would they? Avalon chips are inferior GHs/watt.

Work it out for yourself.

Avalon 66GHs @620watts = 9.4Watts/GHs
BFLabs 5 GHs @30watts = 6.0Watts/GHs

The problem with your comparison is that the Avalon is a standalone unit, whereas the BFL needs to be plugged into a computer. If you've got a Raspberry Pi controlling it, then that doesn't add much where power consumption is concerned. But I feel like most people won't be using a Raspberry Pi or anything of that sort...

Well we know most of the people mining for BTC have a computer and are most likely to have one running to 24/7.

But don't bother nitpicking minor details when people like erk can't grasp that concept that BFL lost the 1st leg of the ASIC race.


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: erk on April 27, 2013, 03:21:21 AM

Why would they? Avalon chips are inferior GHs/watt.

Work it out for yourself.

Avalon 66GHs @620watts = 9.4Watts/GHs
BFLabs 5 GHs @30watts = 6.0Watts/GHs

The problem with your comparison is that the Avalon is a standalone unit, whereas the BFL needs to be plugged into a computer. If you've got a Raspberry Pi controlling it, then that doesn't add much where power consumption is concerned. But I feel like most people won't be using a Raspberry Pi or anything of that sort...

The problem with your comparison is the computer is already inside the Avalon chewing power, whereas with the BFL you can choose what type of computer you connect to, and you can run multiple BFL units off the one computer as confirmed by the author of cgminer. I seem to recall my old Lenovo s10e netbook using about 14watts, it could probably run several BFL units.


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 27, 2013, 06:37:31 AM
I'll tell you what! Dank could've written a better review on or off substance.

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Robert McMillan

@bobmcmillan
@41GrapeApe

Nope this is not a regular order. this is one they've set aside for review. When did you order yours?

I find the following hard to believe that RM is a serious contributor to Wire.

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So most of the people who shelled out the $274 it costs for one of these systems back in June are still waiting. And they’re mad.

And, just in time for locust season! Ain't that right Utah?

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Meanwhile, Butterfly Labs is nowhere near full production capacity. The company says that its systems will continue to trickle out, with another 75 to 150 shipping in the next few weeks.

And, WTF!

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In the meantime, if you have an questions about the Butterfly Labs machine, send us an email.

There's a comment section beneath the article of which they read and respond to.

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Butterfly says it has thousands of orders on the books, but to date, it has only delivered 35 to 40 of them, according to Josh Zerlan, chief operating officer of Butterfly Labs.

Let's do the math: 75 to 150 shipping in the next few weeks with thousands of orders on the books; divide, carry the 1... or is it 2?... Fuck it! Somebody else do it, for my dick's getting hard just looking at it.


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: Gator-hex on April 27, 2013, 03:09:32 PM
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We’ve powered up the miner and can confirm that its little red light turns on, that it burns hot, and that it makes the sound of a toy hair dryer. Whether it will melt or make you rich or not remains to be seen. http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/butterfly/

LOL, wut? They switched it on, didn't even mine with it, and it burns hot? ;)


Title: Re: Wired Magazine gets a Jalapeño
Post by: Bicknellski on August 25, 2013, 08:42:26 AM
Wonder if it is still mining?