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please read first :

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/new-ibelink-10-8-gh-s-x11-miner.14406/

shipping before 31st July

payment required end of April

I have been talking to the manufacturer since his video showed up on youtube and if proven to be real this could be quite lucrative.

even after 3 months these things would be great.

It could be short notice but manufacturer has confirmed 100 units for 7000usd ea ($700,000 in total)
5000usd ea
I want to fly over and see these guys if we are going to get a mass order going.

thoughts...interests....?


if proven to be legit:

Bittawm: 1 unit
ayoungtech: 1 unit
maleemk: 3 units
Truthchanter: 1 unit
Steveolino: 1 unit
fuzion1: 1 unit
supersonic: 2 units
Chan8: 10-15 units
drsub: 1 unit (or 2)
Ambros: 1 unit
Eyedol-X: 1 unit
felixbrucker: 3 units
adnanelgalla: 2 units
Sequoia93L 1 unit
charles2k: 10 units
elokk: 1 unit
VoskCoin: 1 unit
Searing: 1 (or 2)
xdookiex: 1 unit



UPDATE: AS OF 29TH APRIL THEY ARE SOLD OUT (this group buy will not be happening, we were a little late to catch on with this one)

Moderate interest in 1 unit.

Need some more information/specs.

Wattage?

***edit- Looks like ~730watts from the video?? ***

Same. Interested if this is legit

Also, would it be $7500 + shipping, or $7000 + shipping?

2 for me if they are legit.
At 5000 USD each ill go with 3 units.

Definitely interested in 1 unit if there's reasonable confirmation that it's legit

Interested for one !

I have similar information- this product is only going through preorder for customers with larger than 100 units.
But price will be lower than 7k USD for such quantity

Let's try to keep track...

ayoungtech- 1
Quakenet- 1
maleemk- 2
Truthchanter- 1
Steveolino- 1

I would be interested in 1ea if this is legit.  Does not look legit though.

link us up and lets do it, if you can get them cheaper then hook us up

im in for 2 units

Say goodbye to the baikals if this is true.

I'm in for 1 or 2

I am very interested in this and have also been talking to the manufacturer about a demo

Cool , so you are swinging the $700,000 in 3 days then?
if so awesome :)

we will do our best hahaha

If this turns out to be legit I would be interested in 1 unit.

Count me in for 1 unit..

the video is no where near the speed they say (look at the screens) 4gh maybe....(from the video)

and it is an APRIL 15th video...thus if the test bed is that slow....and they need money soon...seems scammy as hell

you are gonna need a lot more details and info from the actual main china company imho

so it looks so far to me anyway ...fishy as hell

and pre-ordrer and they need the money FAST ...er yeah right

of course I'd be interested in 1 as well...but really....1 unit at 4gh for 7k? Is what it seems to be able to do now

in for 1 or maybe 2 if prove to be legit

Even if NOT a scam. 7k on a pre-order of 3 months (all pre-orders I've ever seen are at least one month late..it is how they roll)

well....that alone is kinda sticky

now if they did or had trusted escrow they could move a sh*t load even if the above I said stayed true.

There's speculating and there is gambling...hard to tell the diff lately

AS an example almost got burned by BFL and they had products out for review 6 months before shipping and legit www site
and nice coindesk write ups...but NEVER shippped..till way way late like 10 months plus .....KNC was legit..then took pre-order money and never shipped for 5 months
till their data hall was filled first ..thus knc btc neptune miner was a doorstop with 1/4 roi if lucky in 5 months.

The recent case of Bitmain who yanked back my (and large wholealers like eastshore mining) equip back ..some on the truck to be shipped...so they could mine with it.
That was L3's at the first of the month. Then they took pre-order money and mined them to stop seg witness with the added benifit of all that hash....LTC going up
3x and basically driving difficuly by the time they ship (now) LTC difficulty alone up probably 75%....

So hell if you have an X11 miner that makes more money in 2 months then you could sell it for...why sell it? Bitmain cracked at 4x the price. With this stuff
you would be foolish to sell any of it...makes no sense at current dash x11 profits.

a well traveled road in asic land historically...and that is not even mentioning others like Avalon who sold you equip on pre-order
and sent it to you 3 months later dirty from mining. (Then again at 1 btc a day or more did not hear a lot of complaints from the
customers) :)

lots of flags on this..tell me you got escrow and I will re-think this

Put me on the list for 1 please if proven legit

Imagine the hash rate spike and diff spike from this.

We have another L3+ in July Scenario here from what it looks like.

Legit or not, $7500 $5000 a pop is a huge risk

Right price for 100units pre-order is 5000USD+ shipping, not 7000 USD

who the hell do we go to to get this price then? pm me

I can confirm price is 5k + shipping on 100 units from the factory

If proved to be legit and confirmed hash rate I'll buy a test unit too

I would be down for 1 unit if it can be confirmed as well @5k or less but I am curious to speculations about how high the difficulty would go by adding at least 1TH hashrate to the network.

i think this could be a SCAM danger..
i'm interested...
but just after a trusted bitcointalk user receive it, and test it, of course!!!

Looked at the video, and except one pool spike of 11GH I could't see nothing more than 1GH continuous hashing at miner control monitor.

and i remember to all, who there is photoshop for fake photoes, and there are software to make fake videos..
i wait for real trusted bitcointalk user test, who can give me trusted results...

still waiting for bittawm to contact me.
but I'm in for 10-15 @5k..
depending on term of payment, and contract terms with manufacturer/supplier.
of course, trusted  member must confirm the asic in person.

@bittawm

if proven legit and trusted im down for 3 units

Anyone near their location in china to check the miner out irl?

this could be great!!!
I hope to have great news soon...
maybe baikalminer is already "OLD"?

ROI in 1 month. Yes.. and I'm the king of banana kingdom.

they are located in Beijing...

so Dash will rip in 3 months  :'(

My friend lives in China, if you can PM their address i will ask him to go there for us and check this out.

you should contact OP for that info.
I would prefer someone knowledgeable with asics and veteran on this forum to authenticate.

I am in talks with them and will be paying them a visit to vet the miner  ;D I'll keep you all posted

2 for me as well, if proven legit .

Interested in at least 1, potentially a lot more depending on legitimacy/price.

This is true

About 3000 units

I am trying to organize someone to go and see in person, If that is me or someone more local. (in in New Zealand)

aprox 10 units

But it would be appropriate first, that someone trustworthy visited Tiannengbo Group factory to see sample unit and the people around it.

top shit, get those bulk orders in

How fast can you pack? Every serious buyer here send some btc to you for air ticket? Lol sounds like an idea?

I am in for 1

yeah we can do that, but some others have contacts in china already... and I dont speak Chinese lol

Put me down for one of these OP please PM me more details

Well, if someone is gonna check the place that is different. But watch it on the 3 month pre order and the demo does only 4 and they promise 10. We saw what promises get you with bitmain.

I'd hate to prepay 3 months ahead and these folk too have a firmware problem, like bitmains line, and we provide loans for them to mine.

At 5k put me down for 1. Posibbly 2. But s*it has to shake out as legit and competent.

They are gonna have to jump thru some verification hoops indeed

Kindly please put me down for 1 of these units as well!

Hope we get some dash mining equipment.

I have just spoken with the manufacturer (not a reseller) for about 30 mins.

they will send us any verification we require and we are organizing someone to view the machine in Beijing tomorrow

they will sign an agreement and hopefully the directors can be personal guarantors for the whole deal.

we have to reach this target by 30th of this month to be in

1 for me if confirmed legit and in some kind of escrow service.

Please message me their contact information

no escrow, its like paying bitmain or baikal or panda

or alpha tech/black arrow/bfl (bye bye btc) :)

My concern is the 3 months....if LTC was to hit 25 bucks plus....the inevitable delays while they mine with the units
we order and then make the units later (knc 5 months on neptune pre-orders...recently bitmain...avalon used to play this game)

avalon/knc/black arrow/bitmain (by by time we get the units...they've pop'd 2x the difficulty or likely more with these machines)

Thus 'our concerns' on this thread...hopefully will get addressed....in some manner on how legit/prudent/honest they are




100 units is gonna be damn near impossible in 2 days lol :) Or has that changed?

Beijing Tiannengbo Information Technology Co., Ltd.

地址:北京朝阳区太阳星城金星园甲 6 号楼 2022 室 邮编:10028 电话: 010-56855974

RM.2022 Bldg. A6, Jinxingyuan, Taiyangxingcheng, Chaoyang District, Beijing, China Postal Code:10028 Tel: 010-56855974

www.dualminer.com , www.ibelink.co

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iBeLinkTM DM11G SALES CONTRACT

Buyer: Contract NO:__DM11G-P000

Seller:_Beijing Tiannengbo Information Technology Co., Ltd.,___

This contract is made by and between the sellers and the buyers, following the relevant guidelines

and laws of the People's Republic of China; whereby the sellers agree to sell and the buyers agree

to buy the undermentioned goods according to the terms and conditions stipulated below and

overleaf:



(1) Name of the Commodity(ies) and Specification(s):

Name of

Commodity

Brand Model Unit Quantity Unit Price

(USD)

Sub. Total

(USD)

Shipment Deadline & Quantity

Month Day Year Quantity

X11 Cloud

Computing

Terminal

iBeLink DM11G Pcs 100 $4,998 $499,800 07 31 2017 100

Summary 100 $499,800

Total Amount (USD): Four Hundred Ninety Nine Thousand and Eight Hundred Dollars

* Technical Specs are shown in Appendix I.



(2) Product Quality Standard: Based on sellers' internal technical guidelines and passing CE &

FCC qualifications.

(3) Packaging Standard: Foam & cardboard boxes.

(4) Shipment Deadline: Sellers plan to ship the goods (FOB at Factory) on or before July 31st.,

2017. Buyers must have paid in full the Total Amount (indicated above) before the shipment time.

(5) Acceptance Procedure: Upon receiving the goods, Buyers must conduct acceptance tests

within 10 days. If any discrepancy is found during the acceptance test, Buyer must inform Seller

within 15 days. Failure to report product discrepancy will cause delay in the full operation of the

equipments.

(6) Payment Term and Timeline:Upon signing this contract, Buyer should pay for the

deposit (50% of the Total Amount): $249,900. Sellers expect to receive the fund on or before

April 30th, 2017 to guarantee the allocation of the goods in the 1st Batch. Before Shipment

北京天能博信息科技有限公司

Beijing Tiannengbo Information Technology Co., Ltd.

地址:北京朝阳区太阳星城金星园甲 6 号楼 2022 室 邮编:10028 电话: 010-56855974

RM.2022 Bldg. A6, Jinxingyuan, Taiyangxingcheng, Chaoyang District, Beijing, China Postal Code:10028 Tel: 010-56855974

www.dualminer.com , www.ibelink.co

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Deadline, Buyer must pay for the remaining balances to avoid any shipment delay.

(7) Penalty

(a) Sellers' Failure in Delivery :

(i) If Sellers provided goods with discrepancy in Brand, Model #, quality and specifications,

Buyers could choose to use the product with appropriate compensation from Sellers or simply

return the goods and receive full refund.

(ii) If Sellers fail to deliver by the Shipment Deadline, Sellers will pay for penalty of 0.1% per

day on the delayed part of goods to Buyers; If delay over 20 days, Buyers can request to void this

contract and asking for full refund. Sellers should carry out the refund without any delay.

(b) Buyers' Failure in Responsibility:

(i) If Buyers fail to receiving the goods, Sellers may request penalty of 0.1% per day for the

delayed part of goods.

(ii) If Buyers attempt to void the contract unilaterally, Buyers should compensate Sellers with

the appropriate loss. Buyers may not get full refund of the deposit.

(c) Any Party to change the contract with respect to quantity, specifications and Shipment

Deadline should seek agreement from the counter-party 15 days in advance. Unless new

agreement is achieved, this contract will be enforced in full in its original terms.

(8) Product Warranty: Sellers provide 90 days of product warranty to Buyers. If Buyers caused

damage of the product due to inappropriate use (such as over clocking) or handling during

warranty period, Sellers will not be responsible for the repair under the warranty terms.

(9) Technical Services: Sellers is responsible for providing technical support and consultation

for Buyers regarding the use of the products. Questions on purchased goods should be replied

within 3 business days.

(10) Force Majeure: Neither party will be held responsible for the fulfillment of the contract due to

Force Majeure. Negotiation is the means to minimize any damage due to Force Majeure.

(11) Arbitration: Any disputes arising in connection with the Contract or the execution thereof

shall be settled by amicable negotiation. In case no settlement can be reached, the case at issue

shall then be submitted for arbitration to the China International Economic and Trade Arbitration

Commission in accordance with the provisions of the said Commission. The award by the said

Commission shall be deemed as final and binding upon both parties.

(12) Price Adjustment: When Sellers open its international sales through its websites, if the

initial listed price on Sellers' official website is below the current pre-order price, Sellers will

lower the pre-order price to match the web order price.

(13) This Contract will be effective upon signing by both parties. Two identical copies

will be provided , with one for Buyers and one for Sellers.

北京天能博信息科技有限公司

Beijing Tiannengbo Information Technology Co., Ltd.

地址:北京朝阳区太阳星城金星园甲 6 号楼 2022 室 邮编:10028 电话: 010-56855974

RM.2022 Bldg. A6, Jinxingyuan, Taiyangxingcheng, Chaoyang District, Beijing, China Postal Code:10028 Tel: 010-56855974

www.dualminer.com , www.ibelink.co

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Buyers: Sellers: 北京天能博信息科技有限公司

Beijing Tiannengbo Information Technology Co., Ltd.,

Address: Address:北京朝阳区太阳星城金星园甲 6 号楼 2202 室

RM 2202, Bldg. 6A Jinxingyuan Taiyangxingcheng

Chaoyang District, Beijing, China

Executive Name: Executive Name: Jun Zhu

Signature or Seal: Signature or Seal:

Position:____________ Position:____CEO_____________

Phone: Phone:___+86 181-3638-6138_____

Bank: Capitola Branch 909

1995 41st Ave

Capitola, CA 95010

USA

Citibank Account Number: 205203565

ABA/Routing Number: 321171184

SWIFT Code: CITI US 33 (required for

International Transfers)



Company BTC Wallet Address:

(BTC-USD Pricing based on Coinbase quotes)



Company Dash Wallet Address:

(Dash-BTC Pricing based on Poloniex quotes)

北京天能博信息科技有限公司

Beijing Tiannengbo Information Technology Co., Ltd.

地址:北京朝阳区太阳星城金星园甲 6 号楼 2022 室 邮编:10028 电话: 010-56855974

RM.2022 Bldg. A6, Jinxingyuan, Taiyangxingcheng, Chaoyang District, Beijing, China Postal Code:10028 Tel: 010-56855974

www.dualminer.com , www.ibelink.co

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Appendix I. Technical Specifications

 Hash Function: X11

 Hash Rate: 10.8 GH/s ±5%

 Power Consumption: 750 W (at the wall, with 25°C ambient temp)

 Power Efficiency: 0.07 J/MH (at the wall, with 25°C ambient temp)

 Number of TNB0303 chips per unit:64

 Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 40 °C

 Network Connection: Ethernet

 Power Supply: 110V to 240V, 50Hz/60Hz

 Certifications: FCC, CE

 Dimensions: 490mm(L)*350mm(W)*180mm(H)

 Weight: 21kg

50 percent is ok by me.I would like to send BTC.

Looking a bit better...with 50% down....but are we anywhere near 100 units?...or will they cut us a break due to bitcointalk group buy?
and our 'cheerleader' efforts?

You'd think they'd cut us a break on numbers...just to get the word and hype out, etc, etc

i might be in for one but i need to know how legit this really is at the end. W/o a serious confirmation im out

where is organized this group by???
USA???
EU???
Or elsewhere??
i'm really interested but i'm in EU
let me know plz...

What are the payment terms, and contract terms?

@bittawm

great work, put me down for min 3 max 5

I will buy if I'm satisfied that the product actually exists (legit) a review from a trusted member would be a bonus and reviews from more than one member is extra points.

Thanks for you work in getting a group together for the order bittawm :)



 

Whats the total amount reserved atm?

I'll will take 2
please update list  :)

10 for sure here.

So 100 x 2500 = 250,000 upfront.

needed by april 30th.  And no one has reviewed the model  to see how it works.

Searing has mentioned more then once  this looks like old school asic ripoff.

I have been in the game before Asic's and there are so many red flags here it is amazing.

for 2500 I can have a three card 1080 ti  gpu rig up and running in 2 days.  it would do  around 2000h at zec  and use 650 watts

it will earn 14 usd a day  10 cent power  would be 1.60 a day so it would net 12.40 a day 100 days from now  you would have


1240 back.  and warrantied gear in hand . If you buy into this in 100 days you will need to send 2500 more and if you are lucky have gear in hand.  and it works as advertised.  so you would be out 5000 hoping coin price and diff allow for return of the 5k.

Above is the good case scenario .


This is really high risk.  I smell a BFL or a KNC be carefull.

Now I will be the first to say the other x-11 asic I said don't buy  and I was wrong . So  I could be wrong here.



But I am buying nvidia and mining zec.  My balls have shrunken a bit with age.

Good luck to you all that buy this.
 

The asic will be reviewed tomorrow, quoted by bittawm.

Where will be reviewed ? Can u send the link please ?

*viewed in person.

My problem beyond all this is the timeline is too tight as well.

ASSUMING it is legit..you also have the issue of delays..no asic mnfg has EVER delivered less then 1 month late (even KNC)

it's a pre-order

on the other hand....I kinda NEED the 25% off equip depreciation ..it looks this year...thus instead of a 5k risk to me it is a 4k risk
in that even if I get ripped off I can take 25% off taxes paid in revenue...which again ..this year ...raining unicorns is an issue

So man, people are gonna really really have to step up with a review of a protype that does the hash, has more then a 35 day or silly
warranty (the last miners these guys made were more then touchy I heard)

lots of eggs in 1 basket...for 2 frigging days

IF they gave us more time ..and/or did not care about the 100 limit..because they wanted the cheerleading effect of a group buy to push
further product...lots of stuff they could do ..to hold our hands and limit our risk to the usual suspects...of timeline moved on a pre-order.

I took this chance in 2013 and it worked with a knc Jupiter 550gh miner......I took this chance with a knc Titan and got it 6 months late
and it did not ROI for like 1.5years (sheesh...damn they are evil ...unkillable) ...alpha tech scrypt (burnt but got money back)....etc

So hell, if we had more time, if they did not care if we met the limit of 100 after the meeting/review, then the only issue is usual am
I dumb to get a pre-order, will it work, will they deliver on time, what is the warranty like.

I'm stupid to even think of a pre-order after all this time (not a newbie) but if I'm gonna crap shoot...I want the same rules I've had in the past asic gambles.

my 2 satashoi's worth (also drank the bfl kool aid in 2013..got my 8k back by a fluke 1 year plus later....so I speak from a certain expertise on 'stupid pre-orders')

(man that last statement is a bit too true for my ego) :(


edit: the 90 warranty is not all that great either (as I read thru the blurb on this again) :( As an example KNC's 300mh scrypt-pow Titan Firmware did not work the first 2 months of the 3 months
and they stopped any new firmware updates around that 90 day mark to boot...as an example)

We aren't even close to 100 units?

Im sure they are willing to extend a bit more time for pre orders.

Would like to update my desired quantity to 2. With payment being sent via BTC.

Thank you.

We are very close to 50 already.
And I am sure that some of us may add to our purchase numbers. So if we reach 85 than remaining 15 are no big deal.

In for 1 unit, if proven legit.  This seems somewhat too good to be true. 

Can this miner be used for different coins in the event of a DASH free fall?

It should work with any X11 coin and not just Dash.  That is a fairly small selection of coins, but there are some more profitable coins in that group. 

With so many hashpower bye-bye X11 coins. It will be all f*ck*d up! :)

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/new-ibelink-10-8-gh-s-x11-miner.14406/page-3

Hello
If it is all legit, proved, with fixed price, EU shippement. I will take one.
How the shippement in EU and the payement will work ?
I need more detail for all this.
 

Sign me up for 1, if proven legit.

May I suggest what was suggested in the Dash forum - have record a video of them mining in a friendly dashboard mine, like coinmine.pl. The one they're using, cybtc.info, is in Chinese, and Google Translate can only go so far...

It'll be great to hear the review of @bittawm for confirmation.

Also, where is it going to be shipped? Can it be shipped to Central America?

I'm not exactly comfortable sending payment for a miner that does not exist to this date or even real proof of it and a working model producing the results that claim. I'd rather just build two more GPU rigs

I would like to, but I would need more time to come up with the full 5k. 2.5k down might be doable if i had a few days to convert funds. (so dont put me down just yet)

Hey, Bittawm would you or another reputable buyer offer partial hosting/ownership. Say If I were able to give $1.5k, we would split profit 33/67% (5/1.5=33.3%)? hoster would get .3% from my 33.3% for overseeing the divvying of profits. Or something along those lines?

I'd like 1 if proven real.

Guys terrible news, I spoke to the manufacturer expressing interest and explaining that we were group buying. Things looked promising however they sent me a message a few hours ago.

they have now completely sold out and we will have to wait for retail (which will be available when they're released)

damn it we were so close too.

Well good try. We all appreciate the work you put in. In a few months, we will find out if we really missed anything or not! ;)

Ok so we will see if its real or not.

oh well, thanks anyways!

Well, the bad news is no miners.

The good news is it exists I guess.

Will temper my enthusiasm for a 2.5k baikal a900 at 900mh, should
such pop in the next 2 months

So all in all good to know 😄

There has been a rumor floating that Baikal has a big honkin miner coming also.  So this may become the new "norm". 

BITTAWM what happened with this group buy?

 :(

Will you have another, or no avail on the dash hardware?

we were so close but this sale has been going on this month and we have only found out a few days ago. we got to the party late.

HOWEVER... I will not stop to bring you new products as I see them.

damn... thanks for your efforts anyway man

Anybody interested shoot me a pm.. im taking moq, but prices will be 7500.. can shoot me a pm i add you to my order.. i can skype and show you all my credentials.. only serious buyers please.

and you can get these but everyone else with less then 100 and not sold out can't....your gonna need to give us more info on your miracle skills
in this regard :) (Why is it always the newbie accounts that get the great deals ..those of us who have been on here years have not...hmmmmmm) :)

my apology, but not understanding your statement or jokes... newbie or veteran accounts on here don't make any difference in the real world, where real people conduct businesses or deals...
like I said, I don't care if anyone interested or not. i'm willing to add anyone to my order because I've grabbed more than I needed.

if your serious just shoot me a PM.. my credentials in life will show you I don't need to scam for nickel and dimes.

I've sent my contact to bittawm to discuss a big purchase through his group buy before he started this groupbuy, he agreed to contact me by my personal contact phone#, which he never did, so veteran account or newbie. makes no difference to me in the real world.

I think you tried trollin me by making a comment in bittawm groupbuy(Baikal cubes)
WELL, i'll be glad to snap a pic of my 13 quad cubes when I set them up =), some motivation in life.

ONCE AGAIN, IF ANYONE INTERESTED STILL, SHOOT ME A PM!

7500usd my price/your price.

So you are selling baikal cubes? 13 of them? Confused

I don't know you Chan, so I prefer to stick to a credible intermediary aka. BITTAWM

If he can vouch for your authenticity and your legit, I'm sure the people who were interested at 5000, would be willing to go up 7.5k

But i'd be down if only BITTAWM, was managing that...

yes understandable. well i'm not selling anything nor am I making on top of this. i'm simply letting people piggy back on my order that want these asics but financially not able to obtain them because of MOQ. this is just something i'm able to do for the community, so why not.

as for credible, my 30 year old company and manufacturing company can speak for my credentials.
like I said, if anyone is serious send me a pm, just talk to me and you can decide.

deadline is coming to a near, for anybody that really want these just shoot me a pm. i'm doin this and taking responsibility because I'm able to.

as for bittawm, he has my personal contact. he never called, WhatsApp msg or answered back my pm when we decided to contact each other and discuss this over the phone. I agreed to purchase a min of 10-15 if he hosted a group buy, before this group buy thread started. that you need to ask him why he didn't since you know him. I wanted to swap whatever knowledge I had so far with manufacturer and resellers, restrictions and terms. I also thought he would've been a great groupbuy host for these asics.

but truthfully, from last baikal group buy it didn't pull through and I had to buy directly from Baikal, and this group buy fell apart.
I find that i'm in a good place being able to secure big orders on my own, maybe money talks in this world. and legendary or veteran don't mean much outside of this forum.

take it for what its worth. I'm just doin this for people that want these and cant get them.

i'm here to stay, and this is where I will be coming to for mining knowledge. really going to be my first time mining anything in 2 weeks from now. i'm a newbie! not no legendary or veteran member on this FORUM.

You are Full of Shit.  You say you are not making anything on top of it - well it seems you are making $2500/unit

seriously thou, if its 5k.. you guys host the groupbuy again...save me some money and less work for myself. i'm in!

Absolutely, How many do you want at $7500 each?

I will be happy to give you my personal info.

pm me your phone contact. I call you.

I del that post, like this is a war goin on with higher members and a newbie account. u really reply fast

Only because I am sitting at my computer waiting for my wife to get ready so we can go out. ;)

lol great conversation with you.. now go bring your family out! haha..
look fwd to gaining some knowledge from you in the near future..
after this, I will need a public apology.... ;D

wow. what did i miss. was the phone call good?
chan do i get a phone call too?
lol ;)

lol, i'm new this mining thing, if any conversation we have and I can gain any kind of knowledge from it... always welcomed! its a benefit for me!

Updated video observe.
Mining on P2pool
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PJTFU4YRw

Fat lot of good it does us here....if they are in lots of 100 and ..if they are not here till about 1st week of August....

thus it is a 'disneyland asic' ..fun to look at...but will niever be able to put it in the backyard :)

I saw a different video as well and i can confirm this is legit ;D ;D. I'm sending someone to Beijing this week to do my own recording will post results here...If anyone wants me to ask do any special recordings please send me a PM.

safe to say its retracted now?

I talked to Chan8 on the phone and skype.. seemed reasonably trustable

Hey everyone, I apologize but I wont be taking on anymore piggy back now.
the orders are overwhelming. I have too much responsibility on end order/delivery date, final payment, and its a huge number at the moment.

I really don't mean to be that guy, but when you are sending thousands of dollars to someone (Chan8) I feel it's my duty to simply post my conversation with him.
These private messages were exchanged on bitcointalk between 4/29-4/30. I missed his call, maybe two. I work a full-time job, I am currently on call and was called in on my day off, as well as run a side business (not including mining), just for the record.
The bottom line is you could ask me to buy my product, and then miss my call or two, and I would not send you this style of message.

Simply put my 2c is that this is a representation of his character, just reporting the facts below and nothing more make your own decisions :D

__________________________________________
Me
Hey I'm interested in that miner, can you elaborate?

Chan8
Same terms same agreed shipping day.
50%down 50% on shipping day..
If your interested send me your contacts and i will call you.

Me
xxx-xxx-xxxx

Can you type out the details?

Chan8
buddy, your a waste bucket... don't be wasting people time..goodluck, hope u can one day be somewhat successful.

yea , id send that guy $500,000 lol

:)

I just hope everyone posts their experiences with this on the forum so everyone gets the benefit of knowing how things went, how well the miners work, and the process.  There is always huge risk with something like this even when dealing directly with a "manufacturer", but it gets even more risky when you add third parties into the mix.  I hope this works out for all those who are participating in this purchase.

you know u sent me a cops number buddy.. your a waste bucket.

I'm the cop, buddy.

my apology, thought u was playin a joke on me...
I'm not taking anymore orders to piggy back.. have a good day..
once again, my apology.

Thank you for the apology.

LIKE A BOSS, RESPECT MAN RESPECT.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1897027.new#new

SECOND CHANCE $6750usd FROM USA