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Title: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: pinkmann on April 27, 2017, 08:39:44 PM
Its the cops again. I guess that statement power corrupts is true.

Human Rights officials found a bunch of undocumented prisoners being hidden in a narrow room behind a book case. The victims claim they were being held by the cops in order to extort money from them.

The cops say they were arrested for bring part of the drug war. So why not just kill them then? What do you think? How can this problem be solved?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39737321 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39737321)

The people need to stand up to these criminals and remove them from power. Jail the cops for kidnapping and extortion. Send the message Duterte otherwise we're gonna think ur in on this as well.



Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Forester618 on April 27, 2017, 08:50:29 PM
This is an example of the fact that no cause can justify the violation of the law. Duterte now will use illegal tactics against the opposition, and the reward for loyalty is to allow the police to break the law and Rob people.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: MisO69 on April 28, 2017, 02:13:50 PM
Like I have been saying Deterte isn't solving anything he's only making things worse for his people.

He needs to tackle poverty and joblessness not go around killing sick people. What a psycho. This guy makes Trump look like Mother Teresa.



Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Mometaskers on April 28, 2017, 06:31:39 PM
Being a Filipino, I'm ashamed that this news is now all over the place and people are probably laughing at us now. This is nothing new, we've always heard of stories like this. Arrest dealer. Extort dealer. Release dealer. Rinse. Repeat.

I would still admit that this is a new low though. I've seen the district chief on the news with his awkward smile trying to make us believe it's just a temporary holding area for some of the drug suspects they arrested because they ran out of space. Does he take us for fools? Really, hide them behind a bookshelf?

I'm expecting more worse news considering the president's stance on erring policemen. Heck police even came into a precinct, had all the other police there out and faced to the wall, and shot a drug lord because they said he fought back when they came to inspect his cell. Seriously, they insist they have a search warrant and just came by to present it. Who the heck needed a search warrant if the guy is already in jail?

There was even records that these guys first called forensics before doing this. Who the heck does that? It would have been a secret what happened there if the media Duterte despise haven't caught wind of the operation and rushed there in time to see all policemen outside, on the ground, facing a wall, disarmed.

And what did Duterte said? He's not going to allow those cops to go to jail.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: farl2web on April 29, 2017, 04:37:39 AM
It seems to me that corruption is the main problem of mankind, and not of individual countries. To some extent this problem exists everywhere. But it is impossible to eradicate it, because corrupt officials themselves and they do not find themselves.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: JGoRed on April 29, 2017, 03:17:50 PM
It seems to me that corruption is the main problem of mankind, and not of individual countries. To some extent this problem exists everywhere. But it is impossible to eradicate it, because corrupt officials themselves and they do not find themselves.
No country is corruption free, but you can always eliminate the corrupted officials/law enforcement and get a much less corrupted country.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: gabmen on April 29, 2017, 05:30:34 PM
I think this is the result of cops abusing power because the leader of the country doesn't want to think that they can do wrong. I think the philippine president needs to mellow down of his defense of cops because there are a lot who don't deserve it. Of course there are a lot also who are actually doing their job but there has to be a realization that there are black sheeps that needs to be rooted out as well


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Kemarit on April 30, 2017, 03:31:57 PM
I think this is the result of cops abusing power because the leader of the country doesn't want to think that they can do wrong. I think the philippine president needs to mellow down of his defense of cops because there are a lot who don't deserve it. Of course there are a lot also who are actually doing their job but there has to be a realization that there are black sheeps that needs to be rooted out as well

Cases like this shows the bad eggs from the basket. Next moved will be to axed those erring cops from their post. The Philippines should recognized that this problem does not happened on one police stations but stations around the country. There should be a nationwide investigation and those found guilty should be administratively and criminally punished. And the President should showed complete neutrality on the issue, and not to side with the police so that the guilty will not to unpunished.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: crairezx20 on April 30, 2017, 04:36:48 PM
I think this is the result of cops abusing power because the leader of the country doesn't want to think that they can do wrong. I think the philippine president needs to mellow down of his defense of cops because there are a lot who don't deserve it. Of course there are a lot also who are actually doing their job but there has to be a realization that there are black sheeps that needs to be rooted out as well

Cases like this shows the bad eggs from the basket. Next moved will be to axed those erring cops from their post. The Philippines should recognized that this problem does not happened on one police stations but stations around the country. There should be a nationwide investigation and those found guilty should be administratively and criminally punished. And the President should showed complete neutrality on the issue, and not to side with the police so that the guilty will not to unpunished.
And i think they should punish those people who not follow the law not only a simple punishment they should give a big punishment because they are sodiers of government or they are officials of government..
I thought that philippines will be changed because of the new president and new regulation but looks like many changes happen and we are seeing right now and reveal who are kind police or bad police..


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: hasiramasenju on April 30, 2017, 05:16:54 PM
i watching the news that Rodrigo Duterte will eat the heart Perpetrators of corruption but i don't know this is only Figuratively or he would really do that but the problem is most of south east countries is poor countries and always there is a chance for the Officials do a corruptions


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: kodes88 on April 30, 2017, 05:56:26 PM
Based on my opinion, corruption will never be eradicated, Corruption will always exist in any country. Human nature will emerge when they are tempted by strong temptations, and money is the most severe temptation for humans. The nature of greed and dissatisfaction will often arise when humans are faced with temptation, self-control is necessary.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: swogerino on April 30, 2017, 07:19:11 PM
What is strange about more corruption in a given country, i.e Philippines in this thread. Nothing because the corruption is everywhere in every country, in some there is more in some there is less but it is present. It's a disease as old as humanity itself. Nothing else is new unfortunately.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: jorneyflair on April 30, 2017, 08:13:21 PM
This is an example of the fact that no cause can justify the violation of the law. Duterte now will use illegal tactics against the opposition, and the reward for loyalty is to allow the police to break the law and Rob people.
That is right, I cannot understand why so many people say that the end justifies the means.
This phrase is very stupid, it does not look like that. We cannot lose our moral laws just because we are having some desires, to become rich, powerful or anything else.

My perspective is that in every case we can do anything we want, unless it is not harmful in anyway for society. But corruption is something illegal and bad, because you may avoid the punishment just because you can afford that: which is not right with other people, who has got sentenced for the same thing.
About corruption, I have heard that also Russia has this problem. Im afraid that it is a common issue in a less developed countries.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: electronicash on April 30, 2017, 08:22:04 PM
there is nothing new to all  these but we're pretty much trying to improve our ways. i think there is the need to loss value to all these fiat so these billionaire will soon be poor like what happen to zimbabwe. and we can then start with crypto for less corruption.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: BADecker on April 30, 2017, 08:39:49 PM
Yep. It is mostly government and its agents who are corrupt.    8)


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on April 30, 2017, 08:50:59 PM
Oh, another embarrassment for us! I mean, we all know they extort money from dealers. Heck, not just the police but even baranggay (community) leaders do that. This is just too crazy though. Who the f**k stuffs people behind a bookshelf?!

i watching the news that Rodrigo Duterte will eat the heart Perpetrators of corruption but i don't know this is only Figuratively or he would really do that but the problem is most of south east countries is poor countries and always there is a chance for the Officials do a corruptions

He also said he'll eat the Abu Sayaff with salt and vinegar. And that he'll ride a jetski to the Spratly's to assert Philippine sovereignty.   ;D

What is strange about more corruption in a given country, i.e Philippines in this thread. Nothing because the corruption is everywhere in every country, in some there is more in some there is less but it is present. It's a disease as old as humanity itself. Nothing else is new unfortunately.

I guess they reacted because this is a new low, even by corruption standards here.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: criptix on April 30, 2017, 08:54:26 PM
Just leave the pinoys alone. Either duterte will be killed by the pinoys or vice versa.

Anyway good for the world population :)

The only thing i really fear is when pinoys start to mass emigrate and flee from duterte.
There is a huge number of people infected with TBC and a part of them is immune to standard meditation.

We should build a huge wall around them before the world gets rekt...


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: BADecker on April 30, 2017, 09:17:40 PM

There is a huge number of people infected with TBC and a part of them is immune to standard meditation.


Massive doses of vitamin D3 and vitamin C will cure just about any disease.

8)


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: squatz1 on May 01, 2017, 02:47:46 AM
Like I have been saying Deterte isn't solving anything he's only making things worse for his people.

He needs to tackle poverty and joblessness not go around killing sick people. What a psycho. This guy makes Trump look like Mother Teresa.



The sad thing is, this is kinda how it works with leaders who are going to try radical ideas like this. No one has really tried it before so we really don't know what's going to end up happening. I think if Durante increased the wage of the police officers and other public servants then tried to do full raids against the drug monopolies and such he'd do it with more success.

Because as we know now, the police and other officials are probably just simply paid off by the drug cartels and theres nothing Durante can do without the support  of the underlyings under him. That's what tough about trying to reform and rule over a corruption riden government.

I do wish him luck though, he's trying to fight the good fight and save his country.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 01, 2017, 03:52:18 AM
Why is this such a big news? Such incidents are very frequent in almost all the third world countries. It is not something which is unique to the Philippines. Go to any third world nation such as Cambodia, India, Nigeria, or Kenya. You will find hundreds of similar incidents every day.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: chixka000 on May 01, 2017, 05:45:06 AM
Like I have been saying Deterte isn't solving anything he's only making things worse for his people.

He needs to tackle poverty and joblessness not go around killing sick people. What a psycho. This guy makes Trump look like Mother Teresa.



Those corruption were already there before duterte became president. The only thing right now is that itcis being revailed and unlike before where everything is being hidden because of the political support. Worsen? Lol  you are not in the Philippines why not come here and experience living before saying


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 01, 2017, 06:09:39 AM
Those corruption were already there before duterte became president. The only thing right now is that itcis being revailed and unlike before where everything is being hidden because of the political support. Worsen? Lol  you are not in the Philippines why not come here and experience living before saying

Duterte is similar to Trump. He is trying quite hard to fulfill his campaign promises. But it is not going to happen overnight. Eradicating corruption from a country such as the Philippines can take many years, if not decades.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: alphablitzer on May 01, 2017, 06:15:07 AM
Those corruption were already there before duterte became president. The only thing right now is that itcis being revailed and unlike before where everything is being hidden because of the political support. Worsen? Lol  you are not in the Philippines why not come here and experience living before saying

Duterte is similar to Trump. He is trying quite hard to fulfill his campaign promises. But it is not going to happen overnight. Eradicating corruption from a country such as the Philippines can take many years, if not decades.
It won't be that easy, but at least he is trying. We all know how hard it is for the Filipino people to see that and I hope they see that it's constantly changing and making it better. Evil can't be eradicated, it can be lessened. I hope it happens though, complete peace.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: chixka000 on May 01, 2017, 06:37:00 AM
Those corruption were already there before duterte became president. The only thing right now is that itcis being revailed and unlike before where everything is being hidden because of the political support. Worsen? Lol  you are not in the Philippines why not come here and experience living before saying

Duterte is similar to Trump. He is trying quite hard to fulfill his campaign promises. But it is not going to happen overnight. Eradicating corruption from a country such as the Philippines can take many years, if not decades.

Wrong duterte actually is very far from trump. Suck media. Here we are actually experience the result of his actions. More corrupt politicians or governemnt bodies were penalized. Lesser drug addicts you wont be more afraid of going out at night and he will not also order a bombing into other countries lol


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: crwth on May 01, 2017, 06:39:32 AM
Those corruption were already there before duterte became president. The only thing right now is that itcis being revailed and unlike before where everything is being hidden because of the political support. Worsen? Lol  you are not in the Philippines why not come here and experience living before saying

Duterte is similar to Trump. He is trying quite hard to fulfill his campaign promises. But it is not going to happen overnight. Eradicating corruption from a country such as the Philippines can take many years, if not decades.

Wrong duterte actually is very far from trump. Suck media. Here we are actually experience the result of his actions. More corrupt politicians or governemnt bodies were penalized. Lesser drug addicts you wont be more afraid of going out at night and he will not also order a bombing into other countries lol
I agree with this. The media is making Duterte's image look bad that can be compared to Trump, and it's very different. Trump firstly is freaking Rich, compared to Duterte, just lives a normal healthy lifestyle. Duterte knows the sources or effects that cause criminality here, the main source of it is DRUGS. That's why he is trying to eradicate it all.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: chixka000 on May 01, 2017, 07:11:06 AM
Those corruption were already there before duterte became president. The only thing right now is that itcis being revailed and unlike before where everything is being hidden because of the political support. Worsen? Lol  you are not in the Philippines why not come here and experience living before saying

Duterte is similar to Trump. He is trying quite hard to fulfill his campaign promises. But it is not going to happen overnight. Eradicating corruption from a country such as the Philippines can take many years, if not decades.

Wrong duterte actually is very far from trump. Suck media. Here we are actually experience the result of his actions. More corrupt politicians or governemnt bodies were penalized. Lesser drug addicts you wont be more afraid of going out at night and he will not also order a bombing into other countries lol
I agree with this. The media is making Duterte's image look bad that can be compared to Trump, and it's very different. Trump firstly is freaking Rich, compared to Duterte, just lives a normal healthy lifestyle. Duterte knows the sources or effects that cause criminality here, the main source of it is DRUGS. That's why he is trying to eradicate it all.

Exactly, duterte would also give his people a heart and that is what we really like about him if you love your country and loyal to it he will also love you but if you dare to destroy Philippines or its people then be sorry because he could be your first and worst enemy just loke what happens to the corrupts


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: alphablitzer on May 01, 2017, 07:27:39 AM
Those corruption were already there before duterte became president. The only thing right now is that itcis being revailed and unlike before where everything is being hidden because of the political support. Worsen? Lol  you are not in the Philippines why not come here and experience living before saying

Duterte is similar to Trump. He is trying quite hard to fulfill his campaign promises. But it is not going to happen overnight. Eradicating corruption from a country such as the Philippines can take many years, if not decades.

Wrong duterte actually is very far from trump. Suck media. Here we are actually experience the result of his actions. More corrupt politicians or governemnt bodies were penalized. Lesser drug addicts you wont be more afraid of going out at night and he will not also order a bombing into other countries lol
I agree with this. The media is making Duterte's image look bad that can be compared to Trump, and it's very different. Trump firstly is freaking Rich, compared to Duterte, just lives a normal healthy lifestyle. Duterte knows the sources or effects that cause criminality here, the main source of it is DRUGS. That's why he is trying to eradicate it all.

Exactly, duterte would also give his people a heart and that is what we really like about him if you love your country and loyal to it he will also love you but if you dare to destroy Philippines or its people then be sorry because he could be your first and worst enemy just loke what happens to the corrupts
That's the truth and I like Duterte because he does love the country and he is trying to make the Philippines better. What would you want to have, a leader who just makes good face to everybody and probably lies, or someone who is genuine and truly shows who he is and has passion for the country? I would choose the latter.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Mometaskers on May 01, 2017, 02:44:44 PM
Just leave the pinoys alone. Either duterte will be killed by the pinoys or vice versa.

Anyway good for the world population :)

The only thing i really fear is when pinoys start to mass emigrate and flee from duterte.
There is a huge number of people infected with TBC and a part of them is immune to standard meditation.

We should build a huge wall around them before the world gets rekt...

Oh hi, how is your immigration policy going? Can't really determine if you're American or European based on previous comments from you. In case you're the latter, good luck. If the former, good luck building a wall on the sea. It's more likely that China would have the Philippines block entry into Asia to stop Americans meddling with them. Go get a map and look at it.

Now back to America's wall. I wonder what would have been a better use of that money. And can't American's build it themselves? Why ask Mexico to pay for it, can't they afford it? Even if it does go up, Mexico will not spend a single peso on it. They are not required to.

Oh and by the way, I live in a low-income neighborhood and I don't see people with tuberculosis here. You're more like to catch an STD from a tourist.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: criptix on May 01, 2017, 04:42:03 PM
Just leave the pinoys alone. Either duterte will be killed by the pinoys or vice versa.

Anyway good for the world population :)

The only thing i really fear is when pinoys start to mass emigrate and flee from duterte.
There is a huge number of people infected with TBC and a part of them is immune to standard meditation.

We should build a huge wall around them before the world gets rekt...

Oh hi, how is your immigration policy going? Can't really determine if you're American or European based on previous comments from you. In case you're the latter, good luck. If the former, good luck building a wall on the sea. It's more likely that China would have the Philippines block entry into Asia to stop Americans meddling with them. Go get a map and look at it.

Now back to America's wall. I wonder what would have been a better use of that money. And can't American's build it themselves? Why ask Mexico to pay for it, can't they afford it? Even if it does go up, Mexico will not spend a single peso on it. They are not required to.

Oh and by the way, I live in a low-income neighborhood and I don't see people with tuberculosis here. You're more like to catch an STD from a tourist.

I advise you to stop taking shabu while drinking the duterte/pinoy are the best kool aid.
What i wrote about TBC is fact. We already got a discussion about it on this board with enough evidence supporting said fact.

Thanks for worrying about us in europe but most of us are still driving a car, having a big house and a safe job - and on top of that nobody of my family was rapped yet (hello mark).


Nobody cares about pinoys sucking chinese dick.
It will just be funny when your chinese overlords decide to have buttsex lol ;)


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Spoderman on May 01, 2017, 05:34:39 PM
Those corruption were already there before duterte became president. The only thing right now is that itcis being revailed and unlike before where everything is being hidden because of the political support. Worsen? Lol  you are not in the Philippines why not come here and experience living before saying

Duterte is similar to Trump. He is trying quite hard to fulfill his campaign promises. But it is not going to happen overnight. Eradicating corruption from a country such as the Philippines can take many years, if not decades.

Wrong duterte actually is very far from trump. Suck media. Here we are actually experience the result of his actions. More corrupt politicians or governemnt bodies were penalized. Lesser drug addicts you wont be more afraid of going out at night and he will not also order a bombing into other countries lol
I agree with this. The media is making Duterte's image look bad that can be compared to Trump, and it's very different. Trump firstly is freaking Rich, compared to Duterte, just lives a normal healthy lifestyle. Duterte knows the sources or effects that cause criminality here, the main source of it is DRUGS. That's why he is trying to eradicate it all.

DRUGS are just a vehicle for people's distress. The real problem with pinoy land is the rampant poverty which fuels the corruption and drug taking. He's nothing more than a murderer and a stupid leader. If he focused on poverty things would get better. Without addressing that glaring issue things will stay the same. He can kill a million people it wouldn't change things.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: pthnmj on May 01, 2017, 05:40:53 PM
Corruption become a culture in the Philippines. It started by the Spaniards. The Spaniards descendants control most of the land of the Philippines and Chinese descendants control most of the Trade. The real Filipino is on the lowest on the society or working abroad as slaves.  The only way to stop the corruption is to distribute the land and stop monopolies of the spaniards/american/chinese descendants.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Forester618 on May 01, 2017, 06:11:48 PM
Corruption become a culture in the Philippines. It started by the Spaniards. The Spaniards descendants control most of the land of the Philippines and Chinese descendants control most of the Trade. The real Filipino is on the lowest on the society or working abroad as slaves.  The only way to stop the corruption is to distribute the land and stop monopolies of the spaniards/american/chinese descandants.
Even if we assume that all the land handed out as you suggest that this will change? Do you think that will earn her money? Where will you sell your products? On the world market artificially low prices for agricultural products. You will be a slave in the land which belongs to you.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: pthnmj on May 01, 2017, 06:26:22 PM
Corruption become a culture in the Philippines. It started by the Spaniards. The Spaniards descendants control most of the land of the Philippines and Chinese descendants control most of the Trade. The real Filipino is on the lowest on the society or working abroad as slaves.  The only way to stop the corruption is to distribute the land and stop monopolies of the spaniards/american/chinese descandants.
Even if we assume that all the land handed out as you suggest that this will change? Do you think that will earn her money? Where will you sell your products? On the world market artificially low prices for agricultural products. You will be a slave in the land which belongs to you.

At least it is more fair starting point. At least they can grow their own food and land to build their own house. Lots of things will change. My family have 35+ hectares of land. I can say our life is more easier than those who don't.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: kidoseagle0312 on May 01, 2017, 06:51:55 PM
Based on my opinion, corruption will never be eradicated, Corruption will always exist in any country. Human nature will emerge when they are tempted by strong temptations, and money is the most severe temptation for humans. The nature of greed and dissatisfaction will often arise when humans are faced with temptation, self-control is necessary.
I would agreed in your statement, as long as there is an officials in the government who are greed, corruption will always be there and never be disappear and can never be resolve because the problem was inside the government officials.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: diegz on May 01, 2017, 11:47:59 PM
Illegal detention and money making machines, and sooner or later the next candidate to Mercy killing by the police. That is not a good way to clean the streets. It just makes things worst and probably would make his popularity rating fall more.

They can only do that on ordinary drug users and pushers. Until now they can't catch a big fish, its like curing a disease without finding the real cause of the problem.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: yueno on May 02, 2017, 02:40:38 AM
I guess Its not. The current administration stop the corruption.  The philippine president is too busy in dealing corruption in his country and in dealing illegal drugs. The current news you have spoken is not totally corruption because he fire those who involve in corruptiob as the philippine president promise to his countrymen.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: xvids on May 02, 2017, 04:09:30 AM
It seems to me that corruption is the main problem of mankind, and not of individual countries. To some extent this problem exists everywhere. But it is impossible to eradicate it, because corrupt officials themselves and they do not find themselves.
No country is corruption free, but you can always eliminate the corrupted officials/law enforcement and get a much less corrupted country.
Yeah you are so damn right there is absolutely no country that is free from corruption,
And eliminating the corrupted officials is so damn hard to do,
But I hope in the future we could live and see some country to be free from corruption it seems hard but I still think that we could do it.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 02, 2017, 04:13:38 AM
Those corruption were already there before duterte became president. The only thing right now is that itcis being revailed and unlike before where everything is being hidden because of the political support. Worsen? Lol  you are not in the Philippines why not come here and experience living before saying

Duterte is similar to Trump. He is trying quite hard to fulfill his campaign promises. But it is not going to happen overnight. Eradicating corruption from a country such as the Philippines can take many years, if not decades.
It won't be that easy, but at least he is trying. We all know how hard it is for the Filipino people to see that and I hope they see that it's constantly changing and making it better. Evil can't be eradicated, it can be lessened. I hope it happens though, complete peace.

Philippines need someone who is not afraid to take concrete steps such as Duterte. In Western nations, you can just educate the people and expect them to refrain from drugs and crime. It doesn't work like that in the developing nations.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Mometaskers on May 02, 2017, 06:47:51 PM
Just leave the pinoys alone. Either duterte will be killed by the pinoys or vice versa.

Anyway good for the world population :)

The only thing i really fear is when pinoys start to mass emigrate and flee from duterte.
There is a huge number of people infected with TBC and a part of them is immune to standard meditation.

We should build a huge wall around them before the world gets rekt...

Oh hi, how is your immigration policy going? Can't really determine if you're American or European based on previous comments from you. In case you're the latter, good luck. If the former, good luck building a wall on the sea. It's more likely that China would have the Philippines block entry into Asia to stop Americans meddling with them. Go get a map and look at it.

Now back to America's wall. I wonder what would have been a better use of that money. And can't American's build it themselves? Why ask Mexico to pay for it, can't they afford it? Even if it does go up, Mexico will not spend a single peso on it. They are not required to.

Oh and by the way, I live in a low-income neighborhood and I don't see people with tuberculosis here. You're more like to catch an STD from a tourist.

I advise you to stop taking shabu while drinking the duterte/pinoy are the best kool aid.
What i wrote about TBC is fact. We already got a discussion about it on this board with enough evidence supporting said fact.

Thanks for worrying about us in europe but most of us are still driving a car, having a big house and a safe job - and on top of that nobody of my family was rapped yet (hello mark).


Nobody cares about pinoys sucking chinese dick.
It will just be funny when your chinese overlords decide to have buttsex lol ;)


Don't mistake me for a Duterte fanatic, I want to have nothing with them. They can drink their red Kool Aid all they want. Shabu? Oh you meant meth right? Nah, I won't buy those Chinese-made drugs. I won't worry about getting anal raped by the Chinese, they're quite satisfied with Duterte. Besides it probably won't hurt.  ;D

Also, did you just call me by my first name? Did you go out of your way to track me?


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Marcus_2017 on May 02, 2017, 07:42:59 PM
Those corruption were already there before duterte became president. The only thing right now is that itcis being revailed and unlike before where everything is being hidden because of the political support. Worsen? Lol  you are not in the Philippines why not come here and experience living before saying

Duterte is similar to Trump. He is trying quite hard to fulfill his campaign promises. But it is not going to happen overnight. Eradicating corruption from a country such as the Philippines can take many years, if not decades.
I don't agree with you. Duterte not like Trump. Imagine what would have happened in America if Trump has tried to fight drug addiction methods of shooting drug dealers? Duterte banal dictator. He has no weight in the world but in his country he is trying to show its strength. I would compare it with Kim Jong-UN.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: JGoRed on May 04, 2017, 01:37:24 PM
I don't agree with you. Duterte not like Trump. Imagine what would have happened in America if Trump has tried to fight drug addiction methods of shooting drug dealers? Duterte banal dictator. He has no weight in the world but in his country he is trying to show its strength. I would compare it with Kim Jong-UN.
I don’t know much about politics in the Philippines, but I don’t think he compares to Kim Jong Un. In fact, I don’t think anybody in modern history (other than Hitler, Stalin, Castro and other similar dictators) would compare to Kim Jong Un.

If he was elected than I don't think he is like Kim Jong UN.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Xester on May 04, 2017, 01:44:19 PM
Its the cops again. I guess that statement power corrupts is true.

Human Rights officials found a bunch of undocumented prisoners being hidden in a narrow room behind a book case. The victims claim they were being held by the cops in order to extort money from them.

The cops say they were arrested for bring part of the drug war. So why not just kill them then? What do you think? How can this problem be solved?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39737321 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39737321)

The people need to stand up to these criminals and remove them from power. Jail the cops for kidnapping and extortion. Send the message Duterte otherwise we're gonna think ur in on this as well.



Even before Duterte sits on the seat of Presidency in the Republic of the Philippines that trend of money extortion was already been in placed and has been occurring for a long time already. If this kind of cops will not be punished under the law many will follow them and abuse their police power. Hope the government will make or conduct fast investigation and punish those who have violated the law.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: chixka000 on May 04, 2017, 01:45:58 PM
Those corruption were already there before duterte became president. The only thing right now is that itcis being revailed and unlike before where everything is being hidden because of the political support. Worsen? Lol  you are not in the Philippines why not come here and experience living before saying

Duterte is similar to Trump. He is trying quite hard to fulfill his campaign promises. But it is not going to happen overnight. Eradicating corruption from a country such as the Philippines can take many years, if not decades.

Wrong duterte actually is very far from trump. Suck media. Here we are actually experience the result of his actions. More corrupt politicians or governemnt bodies were penalized. Lesser drug addicts you wont be more afraid of going out at night and he will not also order a bombing into other countries lol
I agree with this. The media is making Duterte's image look bad that can be compared to Trump, and it's very different. Trump firstly is freaking Rich, compared to Duterte, just lives a normal healthy lifestyle. Duterte knows the sources or effects that cause criminality here, the main source of it is DRUGS. That's why he is trying to eradicate it all.

DRUGS are just a vehicle for people's distress. The real problem with pinoy land is the rampant poverty which fuels the corruption and drug taking. He's nothing more than a murderer and a stupid leader. If he focused on poverty things would get better. Without addressing that glaring issue things will stay the same. He can kill a million people it wouldn't change things.

Drugs is an excused of course. Even if you are poor it doesn't mean that you would go and sell drugs. Murderer? Seriously? Where are rhose federal judges from UN who keeps on saying that they will fill a case against him. They cant even provide a single evidence how much more of you?


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: voltesbit777 on May 04, 2017, 02:44:20 PM
Like I have been saying Deterte isn't solving anything he's only making things worse for his people.

He needs to tackle poverty and joblessness not go around killing sick people. What a psycho. This guy makes Trump look like Mother Teresa.



I think not, we don't know what duterte's on his mind right now, and we also don't know what's he is really planning. I don't think also that the President didn't solve anything, when it comes to drugs syndicate and criminality there is a big changes happened when Duterte's sitted as president, and more over in some other ways of problems even corruption He also solved it, it may note b 100% but there is being solved less than year he is sitted as president of the Philippines.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: salemon on May 05, 2017, 04:05:54 AM
Like I have been saying Deterte isn't solving anything he's only making things worse for his people.

He needs to tackle poverty and joblessness not go around killing sick people. What a psycho. This guy makes Trump look like Mother Teresa.



I think not, we don't know what duterte's on his mind right now, and we also don't know what's he is really planning. I don't think also that the President didn't solve anything, when it comes to drugs syndicate and criminality there is a big changes happened when Duterte's sitted as president, and more over in some other ways of problems even corruption He also solved it, it may note b 100% but there is being solved less than year he is sitted as president of the Philippines.
Total corruption is a 21st century disaster in all countries. And I'm already 100% convinced that as the president manages the country and officials work. It is not necessary to think that the Philippines, at home, as elsewhere.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 05, 2017, 04:59:47 AM
Total corruption is a 21st century disaster in all countries. And I'm already 100% convinced that as the president manages the country and officials work. It is not necessary to think that the Philippines, at home, as elsewhere.

Previously, corruption was a major issue even in the developed nations. But now, it is quite rare in these nations. The same can happen in the Philippines as well. As the country prospers and the people get more educated, the corruption will vanish.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: alphablitzer on May 07, 2017, 04:53:00 PM
Total corruption is a 21st century disaster in all countries. And I'm already 100% convinced that as the president manages the country and officials work. It is not necessary to think that the Philippines, at home, as elsewhere.

Previously, corruption was a major issue even in the developed nations. But now, it is quite rare in these nations. The same can happen in the Philippines as well. As the country prospers and the people get more educated, the corruption will vanish.
It has already been happening and always happening everywhere. Some people cannot stop themselves with the greed in them, with the possibility of them getting money from the tax and it's really easy because they have the power to do it. I hope they can lessen it or something.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: crwth on May 07, 2017, 05:13:51 PM
Those corruption were already there before duterte became president. The only thing right now is that itcis being revailed and unlike before where everything is being hidden because of the political support. Worsen? Lol  you are not in the Philippines why not come here and experience living before saying

Duterte is similar to Trump. He is trying quite hard to fulfill his campaign promises. But it is not going to happen overnight. Eradicating corruption from a country such as the Philippines can take many years, if not decades.

Wrong duterte actually is very far from trump. Suck media. Here we are actually experience the result of his actions. More corrupt politicians or governemnt bodies were penalized. Lesser drug addicts you wont be more afraid of going out at night and he will not also order a bombing into other countries lol
I agree with this. The media is making Duterte's image look bad that can be compared to Trump, and it's very different. Trump firstly is freaking Rich, compared to Duterte, just lives a normal healthy lifestyle. Duterte knows the sources or effects that cause criminality here, the main source of it is DRUGS. That's why he is trying to eradicate it all.

DRUGS are just a vehicle for people's distress. The real problem with pinoy land is the rampant poverty which fuels the corruption and drug taking. He's nothing more than a murderer and a stupid leader. If he focused on poverty things would get better. Without addressing that glaring issue things will stay the same. He can kill a million people it wouldn't change things.

Drugs is an excused of course. Even if you are poor it doesn't mean that you would go and sell drugs. Murderer? Seriously? Where are rhose federal judges from UN who keeps on saying that they will fill a case against him. They cant even provide a single evidence how much more of you?
I don't think that you wouldn't be doing anything, at least you are doing something. Have you done so much as to help people in your own country? It's hard, if you believe you can eradicate the poverty without killing the thing that cost it, then you are wrong with it.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on May 07, 2017, 06:46:49 PM
Total corruption is a 21st century disaster in all countries. And I'm already 100% convinced that as the president manages the country and officials work. It is not necessary to think that the Philippines, at home, as elsewhere.

Previously, corruption was a major issue even in the developed nations. But now, it is quite rare in these nations. The same can happen in the Philippines as well. As the country prospers and the people get more educated, the corruption will vanish.

Oh, I can only just wish. There need to be a cultural change in this country. People has gotten used to patronage that they'll just shrug their shoulders and look the other way when they see corruption happening.

It seem to be a widespread problem, even garbage collectors have gotten used to asking people for coins (which they shouldn't, unless you're asking them to take something like an entire sofa). Internet made it easier to catch culprits now but many people wouldn't take risks.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: Faiyz on May 08, 2017, 01:39:25 AM
As a guy from philippines. Duterte is one of the Phil presidents who isnt controlled by any other organizations or even oligarchs. he moves on his by his own and does what he thinks is helpful. It's too early to tell if he is good or not enough but we need to wait more of his plans.


Title: Re: More corruption in the Philippines. So what else is new?
Post by: crwth on May 08, 2017, 02:31:31 AM
As a guy from philippines. Duterte is one of the Phil presidents who isnt controlled by any other organizations or even oligarchs. he moves on his by his own and does what he thinks is helpful. It's too early to tell if he is good or not enough but we need to wait more of his plans.
That's what I thought also. He makes moves that won't concern any organizations and will do it for the people. Of course there would be a lot of people who would try to bribe him, like the Mighty corporation trying to bribe him. I see some changes from the previous government and it has positive changes.