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Title: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: muffinbiller on April 28, 2017, 02:05:04 AM
Yes Or No
And Why


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: inlovewith on April 28, 2017, 02:55:22 AM
What's the point. People have their strong views, no one is right. Not only is no one is right, people don't care. They don't care if they are right or wrong so long as their group wins the argument. They can have death and destruction, but that does not matter as long as they have an excuse that makes them feel as if they won.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Lancusters on April 28, 2017, 03:05:11 AM
I think Trump is worse than Obama. His inappropriate behavior, he turned politics into a circus also, I am sure that all his militancy and rhetoric against Russia this cover. When the smell of impeachment he has diverted attention and now thinks he's fooled everyone. I don't believe him. Obama was a good President,but a coward.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: canah17 on April 28, 2017, 03:52:25 AM
I think Obama was better than Trump because Trump is now being racist and being a bad taste in our community.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 28, 2017, 04:14:11 AM
Obama was a puppet in the hands of establishment politicians from the Democrat party, such as Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump is independent. He is capable of taking his own independent decisions.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Ivanwatson on April 28, 2017, 06:11:14 AM
Obama spent 800 Billion dollars. Trump Saved 800 Billion dollars. Trump Created Jobs, Obama gave out free phones and more food stamps!!!! Ones a real leader the other is just a little Muslim Boy.

Trump MAGA


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: freedomno1 on April 28, 2017, 06:49:45 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

Goes into old prophecies
Obamaus was the combination of Bush and Obama back in the day but did that mean the Harbinger was the next one President Trump


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: mainpmf on April 28, 2017, 07:30:39 AM
Obama spent 800 Billion dollars. Trump Saved 800 Billion dollars. Trump Created Jobs, Obama gave out free phones and more food stamps!!!! Ones a real leader the other is just a little Muslim Boy.

Trump MAGA

Wahou, how did he do that without anyone knowing it and in total secret?

Cause as far as I know he hasn't done anything like that... And no one is aware apart from you as it seems...
Maybe give a little explanation next time?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: ridery99 on April 28, 2017, 08:01:59 AM
Trump got lot of work to do repairing all the damage Obama did.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: thebestgamer on April 28, 2017, 08:18:25 AM
We can't rely on a single person - president or not - to help us with our lives. It's mostly up to us to change ourselves. But Trump does seem to be putting himself out there, which is a good thing which will strengthen the nation.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Daniel91 on April 28, 2017, 09:25:56 AM
We can't compare Obama and Trump yet.
Obama was president 8 years and Trump is president only 100 days.
It's to early compare them.
Obama had many achievements and of course many mistake, as every president.
It's still to short time to say anything about Trump.
Trump changed a lot since when he became president and he is now more rational and more sensible.
If he continue this way, he may become a good president.
The time will show.
He currently has no concrete results to show.
The Obamacare did not pass, nor did the building of the wall against Mexico.



Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on April 28, 2017, 10:42:09 AM
Trump is way better than Obama.

The President is one man. He is surrounded by people who advise him, some being on his side and some being against him. We have already seen people more or less betray Trump.

The actions of Obama have set up all kinds of problems for America that won't be able to be straightened out for years. If there is war, it is not Trump's doing. Trump has simply been "stuck" in the position of taking care of a war that Obama set up to happen. If there is economic crash, Trump simply didn't have time to stop it when he was stuck in the driver's seat.

Many former presidents used the office of President for personal gain, and for gain for their cronies. Cleaning up the mess, and turning America around to be for the people, won't be easy. Here's what I mean via an example.



The IRS income tax is illegal for several reasons. The IRS is simply a private company, the Internal Revenue Service, even though it is written up in what looks like law. The tactics it uses is to threaten people and companies, taking them to court using tricks of law that people don't understand, is the only reason why the IRS wins in court.

Now, imagine that Trump decided to show people how to beat the IRS every time. What would happen to the economy if he did this? Probably 90% of the people would stop paying income tax, right? In the long run this would be a great thing for the country. In the short run it would probably be economic chaos. Why?

The legal and lawful places where Government can get tax money are export/import between the States, and between the USA and other nations. If there wasn't any income tax, Government would have to get its money from export/import tariffs. This would change the whole structure of international business. Suddenly, like over night, companies that moved out of the country would have to come back, or they just might lose everything because of extremely different taxes on export/imports.

The economic crash that followed the, above, two changes - big drop in IRS tax, and big increase in export/import tax - might be devastating. Yet, those two changes would make all kinds of things in America to be more legal and lawful.

So, how would Trump pull it off if he decided to do it? It would be a difficult thing to do and yet keep the economy from being harmed, and keep people and business from being harmed. Yet, it would be the right thing to do because it would take away a whole bunch of illegality and unlawfulness out of America.

In the long run, this simple thing would make America the strongest nation in the world, with all other nations formally bowing to her, and liking it that way. It would, also, take away the desire of a large percent of so-called American patriots to want to fight their Government.



Change is not easy. Cleaning up the mess of Obama and many Presidents before him will not be easy. It will look like Trump is doing all kinds of bad things for a while. But that's the only way he can make changes for the better in the mess we are in.

8)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: yugo23 on April 28, 2017, 10:47:25 AM

Change is not easy. Cleaning up the mess of Obama and many Presidents before him will not be easy. It will look like Trump is doing all kinds of bad things for a while. But that's the only way he can make changes for the better in the mess we are in.

8)

So...
If Trump does something that has no good impact, seems stupid and illogical... It's because he's "cleaning the mess of the former presidents"?

How... Convenient...

Well who can talks back to such argument anyway?
Trumpists seem dumber and dumber every time they talk :/


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on April 28, 2017, 11:20:35 AM

Change is not easy. Cleaning up the mess of Obama and many Presidents before him will not be easy. It will look like Trump is doing all kinds of bad things for a while. But that's the only way he can make changes for the better in the mess we are in.

8)

So...
If Trump does something that has no good impact, seems stupid and illogical... It's because he's "cleaning the mess of the former presidents"?

How... Convenient...

Well who can talks back to such argument anyway?
Trumpists seem dumber and dumber every time they talk :/

If Trump does something that has no good impact, then he is bad.

This isn't the real question. The question presents the idea of determining which things he does that are good, and which are bad, and which look good and which look bad.

It seems that you are either dumb, or else you are a bit of a troll, since the idea wasn't even about bad things that Trump might do. If Trump is cleaning up the mess, he is doing good things, even if some of the reactions are temporarily bad.

8)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: mrbitcoin2017 on April 28, 2017, 11:35:38 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

Better, because fun people ;D


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: GreenBits on April 28, 2017, 11:57:02 AM
We can't compare Obama and Trump yet.
Obama was president 8 years and Trump is president only 100 days.
It's to early compare them.
Obama had many achievements and of course many mistake, as every president.
It's still to short time to say anything about Trump.
Trump changed a lot since when he became president and he is now more rational and more sensible.
If he continue this way, he may become a good president.
The time will show.
He currently has no concrete results to show.
The Obamacare did not pass, nor did the building of the wall against Mexico.



My feelings in summation. I don't agree with 45, but I didn't agree completely with 44. With that being said, I am willing to give the man a chance, it's his job now, and we will either sink or swim. I don't think it's going to go so swimmingly, but time will tell. I'm not so optimistic about him becoming a 'good president', he has built his platform on not being traditionally presidential. He thinks this is what the people want, that the seeming ineptitude is 'sticking it to the Establishment'. And unless he actually delivers on the wall, the tax cuts, and health care reform (all terrible ideas, save the last) he hasn't really done too much, IMO.

Give the people their meat, Donald.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Marcus_2017 on April 28, 2017, 02:23:51 PM
Trump is way better than Obama.

The President is one man. He is surrounded by people who advise him, some being on his side and some being against him. We have already seen people more or less betray Trump.

The actions of Obama have set up all kinds of problems for America that won't be able to be straightened out for years. If there is war, it is not Trump's doing. Trump has simply been "stuck" in the position of taking care of a war that Obama set up to happen. If there is economic crash, Trump simply didn't have time to stop it when he was stuck in the driver's seat.

Many former presidents used the office of President for personal gain, and for gain for their cronies. Cleaning up the mess, and turning America around to be for the people, won't be easy. Here's what I mean via an example.



The IRS income tax is illegal for several reasons. The IRS is simply a private company, the Internal Revenue Service, even though it is written up in what looks like law. The tactics it uses is to threaten people and companies, taking them to court using tricks of law that people don't understand, is the only reason why the IRS wins in court.

Now, imagine that Trump decided to show people how to beat the IRS every time. What would happen to the economy if he did this? Probably 90% of the people would stop paying income tax, right? In the long run this would be a great thing for the country. In the short run it would probably be economic chaos. Why?

The legal and lawful places where Government can get tax money are export/import between the States, and between the USA and other nations. If there wasn't any income tax, Government would have to get its money from export/import tariffs. This would change the whole structure of international business. Suddenly, like over night, companies that moved out of the country would have to come back, or they just might lose everything because of extremely different taxes on export/imports.

The economic crash that followed the, above, two changes - big drop in IRS tax, and big increase in export/import tax - might be devastating. Yet, those two changes would make all kinds of things in America to be more legal and lawful.

So, how would Trump pull it off if he decided to do it? It would be a difficult thing to do and yet keep the economy from being harmed, and keep people and business from being harmed. Yet, it would be the right thing to do because it would take away a whole bunch of illegality and unlawfulness out of America.

In the long run, this simple thing would make America the strongest nation in the world, with all other nations formally bowing to her, and liking it that way. It would, also, take away the desire of a large percent of so-called American patriots to want to fight their Government.



Change is not easy. Cleaning up the mess of Obama and many Presidents before him will not be easy. It will look like Trump is doing all kinds of bad things for a while. But that's the only way he can make changes for the better in the mess we are in.

8)
You have listed only promises Trump. Action and never will be. I refer to Trump as the host of the show "I am President". In addition to public relations and narcissism I see nothing else. If it is not confirmed that he is an agent of the Kremlin. Never before in America was not Secretary of state-a friend of Putin.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Roger Burton on April 28, 2017, 06:01:05 PM
Both of them are puppets of those who want to lead this world. One way or another things will be how they want to be. The only thing we have is just more time..that's all


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Idrisu on April 28, 2017, 07:29:08 PM
I politic the opposition always get it right in the eye of the masses. But in reality the people in power are trying to do they best. When Obama was the president he did his own best to reposition American loss glory and trump were condemned most of Obama policy but now thing has changed and we expect trump to also makes his own contributions to Reposition America also.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on April 28, 2017, 08:07:58 PM
Both of them are puppets of those who want to lead this world. One way or another things will be how they want to be. The only thing we have is just more time..that's all

Yep. And the thing they are after is tax money, in whatever way they can get it.

8)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Hazir on April 28, 2017, 09:18:19 PM
What's the point. People have their strong views, no one is right.
This is what I believe too, there is no point in arguing whether Trump is good president or bad. There is no hard truth there is only an opinion.

Comparing Trump to Obama is a dick move. Why? Because Obama was a POTUS for whole 8 years while Trump is a president for 6 months.

Both of them are puppets of those who want to lead this world. One way or another things will be how they want to be. The only thing we have is just more time..that's all
If you think that there will be an independent candidate, free from any external influences in the future you are extremely naive.
Because Trump is rich already he might be a bit harder to control by shadow government.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: cybersofts on April 28, 2017, 10:12:28 PM
Yes Or No
And Why

I think Trump is better than Obama because Trump is a man of confidence and would deliver all his promises and "make America great again" because he's not afraid of anyone. I know Trump has many problems and Obama has his own problems too, that's why I believe Trump is a better man compare to Obama.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: farl2web on April 29, 2017, 03:34:27 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

I think Trump is better than Obama because Trump is a man of confidence and would deliver all his promises and "make America great again" because he's not afraid of anyone. I know Trump has many problems and Obama has his own problems too, that's why I believe Trump is a better man compare to Obama.
I would not compare these two politicians, because they are very different and the approach to work is also different for them. Even the goals that each pursue are also radically different.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 29, 2017, 01:07:49 PM
I think Trump is better than Obama because Trump is a man of confidence and would deliver all his promises and "make America great again" because he's not afraid of anyone. I know Trump has many problems and Obama has his own problems too, that's why I believe Trump is a better man compare to Obama.

Trump is confident, and he is having his own independent ideas. On the other hand, Obama didn't had any ideas of his own. He became the president just because of his race, and he spent most of the time playing golf.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Shady on April 29, 2017, 01:27:51 PM
Trump and Obama are completely different people to me. I am waiting for a better president to compete in the race so I can compare them with others in this country... Saying Trump is revising existing systems, the likelihood of them working is enforced by his keen eye. Obama on the other hand was forcing bad policy overseas and acted contradictory to enemies.

Overall, it'll be awhile for new presidents with shaping image to be elected (in hopes to avoid a fall)... But it hasn't happened in decades.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: crwth on April 29, 2017, 02:58:56 PM
No one could really say which is which is better because you wouldn't know what's the real basis of who is better. To the eyes of the people, no one would be ever satisfied even if some of them are being great most of the times, or something just doing the right thing.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: JGoRed on April 29, 2017, 03:14:20 PM
I think that Trump is better than Obama, but about half of the US disagrees with me.

What's the point. People have their strong views, no one is right.
^


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on April 29, 2017, 05:30:42 PM
I think that Trump is better than Obama, but about half of the US disagrees with me.

What's the point. People have their strong views, no one is right.
^

Probably 95% of people think that the Presidency is important. They show it by letting Government people damage them and their property.

8)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 30, 2017, 06:26:32 AM
I think that Trump is better than Obama, but about half of the US disagrees with me.

What's the point. People have their strong views, no one is right.
^

How can you prove that half of the US disagrees? The opinion polls are notoriously inaccurate when they poll anything related to Trump, as seen from those conducted in the rust belt area during POTUS 2016.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kodes88 on April 30, 2017, 07:42:48 AM
Why should we judge this? Even Trump has just begun to lead. Trump has not been 1 year leading the United States, while Obama led the United States for 2 periods. If you really want to compare Trump and Obama, this is not the time, wait until Trump leads even longer, at least up to 1 period. So the performance can we value in total.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: squatz1 on April 30, 2017, 09:50:40 PM
I think Obama was better than Trump because Trump is now being racist and being a bad taste in our community.

Trump isn't a racist in the least, the media and the left just made this made this up based on some of his statments to be able to try to get their paid shill Clinton in power so this is just a bunch of bullshit. Trump would've never been able to make the billions he made if he was a racist, people would've refused to work with him and for him if this was the case. Plus, he probably would've been sued left and right and lost left and right.

Gosh dude get some facts right before you go ahead and make such a claim.

I think Trump is much better than Obama based on policy and the way he isn't just a robot when it comes to speaking to people. Trump is a real normal person like the rest of us, not some normal fucking bought scum by some PAC's to be able to further their own personal agenda.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on April 30, 2017, 11:17:30 PM
No! I am better!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SOUkw0-eCHQ/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=246&h=138&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=67&sat=0.2&sigh=chjM4QP8O9gOmI4Y99hGEnNZc7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOUkw0-eCHQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOUkw0-eCHQ)


8)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 01, 2017, 04:15:27 AM
Why should we judge this? Even Trump has just begun to lead. Trump has not been 1 year leading the United States, while Obama led the United States for 2 periods. If you really want to compare Trump and Obama, this is not the time, wait until Trump leads even longer, at least up to 1 period. So the performance can we value in total.

I somewhat agree, but then Trump has already started working on so many of his campaign promises. He has appointed a conservative to fill the vacancy left by the late judge Scalia. So far, he is doing good.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: yueno on May 01, 2017, 04:36:49 AM
For me its NO. Because president Obama is better than trump. First of all President Obama is a statesman while Trump is a rascist. Being a president you must be a statesman.  As well as President Obama has so many good jobs in his country like obamacare,  tpp and etc. While trump is a beginner in this kind of industry i mean the leadership industry.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: HabBear on May 01, 2017, 05:26:34 AM
Too early to tell, honestly. The guy has been office for 100 days...there's no way to tell if he'll be better or worse.

That said, there's a lot to project opinions on. Trump is a dick, which puts it lightly. He also seeks the easy answer. He often (thus far) doesn't consider all options or how his decision will impact all constituents within the Country.

The problem for Trump, aside from his unabashed arrogance, is his professional background. He's only managed his own business. This is much different than being the CEO of a corporation (not to mention a successful "CEO" of government). From his gold tower in the Trump organization he could make any decision he wanted, for any reason, and if it hurt an employee they could just leave. That consequence doesn't exist in government. When he makes bad decisions he can seriously hurt people.

Obama wasn't perfect, but history will write his tenure as President as one of the most productive and inspiring and respectful of the "bi-partisan" cause. That last bit is charity work to most politicians...most politicians care only about their party's platform and their ability to become famous as a result.

Obama set the new bar for Presidents in America, that's why it was so hard for Hillary to take what should have been an easy win.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 01, 2017, 06:13:14 AM
For me its NO. Because president Obama is better than trump. First of all President Obama is a statesman while Trump is a rascist. Being a president you must be a statesman.  As well as President Obama has so many good jobs in his country like obamacare,  tpp and etc. While trump is a beginner in this kind of industry i mean the leadership industry.

It seems to me that you are not an American citizen. And therefore I am not surprised by your love for Obama. The TPP was a disaster for the American farmers and the manufacturers. On the other hand, the Obamacare was like death bell for the small and medium scale American business ventures.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: joebrook on May 01, 2017, 11:07:03 AM
Obama has always been a puppet of the elite and all he care about was their acceptance and having parties with the celebrities and cared nothing for the common people, if you doubt this, take a look at the election in details, the Dem lost in even the basic level. Trump has shown himself to be his own man and to me a way better than Obama.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: JGoRed on May 01, 2017, 02:38:16 PM
I think that Trump is better than Obama, but about half of the US disagrees with me.

What's the point. People have their strong views, no one is right.
^

How can you prove that half of the US disagrees? The opinion polls are notoriously inaccurate when they poll anything related to Trump, as seen from those conducted in the rust belt area during POTUS 2016.
I was referring to the election, when half the US voted for Trump and half for Hillary (who promised to carry out Obama's plans). I did not mean, however, that half the US hates Trump.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on May 01, 2017, 03:17:01 PM
I think that Trump is better than Obama, but about half of the US disagrees with me.

What's the point. People have their strong views, no one is right.
^

How can you prove that half of the US disagrees? The opinion polls are notoriously inaccurate when they poll anything related to Trump, as seen from those conducted in the rust belt area during POTUS 2016.
I was referring to the election, when half the US voted for Trump and half for Hillary (who promised to carry out Obama's plans). I did not mean, however, that half the US hates Trump.

Bob and Todd Urosevich are (or were) a couple of high-ups in two of the major voting machine companies, Diebold and ES&S.

Since voting machines have been proven to be hackable from the outside, and since the brothers are Russian, who can tell how people really voted?

Remember, Stalin said, way back decades ago, something to the effect of, "It's not he who votes that counts, but he who counts the votes."

8)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: killgald on May 01, 2017, 03:27:51 PM
yes, they have different views about how to lead a country, and Trump knows all about economy for the years of experience he has as C.E.O of his industries.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: daiyuba1971 on May 01, 2017, 03:37:26 PM
Obama has always been a puppet of the elite and all he care about was their acceptance and having parties with the celebrities and cared nothing for the common people, if you doubt this, take a look at the election in details, the Dem lost in even the basic level. Trump has shown himself to be his own man and to me a way better than Obama.

Trump is also a puppet. He was just given other instructions and everyone thinks that he makes these decisions himself.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kpcian on May 01, 2017, 04:18:17 PM
for me, Trump is much cruel than Obama, but trump has taken many steps to protect his country. most of the American still confused about the future of Trump, the world is getting vulnerable by some deeds of USA, but it is all about colonialism theory nothing else.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 02, 2017, 05:29:32 AM
Trump is also a puppet. He was just given other instructions and everyone thinks that he makes these decisions himself.

If Trump is a puppet, then you need to provide evidence to backup your claim. As far as I know, he has been taking independent decisions on his own, although recently he was forced to water down some of his policies, as a result of opposition from his own party men.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: JGoRed on May 02, 2017, 03:26:54 PM
Trump is also a puppet. He was just given other instructions and everyone thinks that he makes these decisions himself.
Really? Seems to me like he makes his own decisions and is very bold when he does so. Do you have anything to back up your claim with, or are you just angry that he is in?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Antoshka on May 02, 2017, 03:38:25 PM
Trump is also a puppet. He was just given other instructions and everyone thinks that he makes these decisions himself.
Really? Seems to me like he makes his own decisions and is very bold when he does so. Do you have anything to back up your claim with, or are you just angry that he is in?

I think that behind each politician are influential people. Trump is also no exception. Someone decided that Trump would win. So it was necessary. And these are not the people who ruled Obama


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Forester618 on May 02, 2017, 03:57:03 PM
I do think that too many people are controlled by Trump. And all of them have different interests. For this reason, we constantly see how Trump does absolutely opposite things. And his statements?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: berserkinterbuy on May 02, 2017, 04:02:37 PM
Trump is also a puppet. He was just given other instructions and everyone thinks that he makes these decisions himself.
Really? Seems to me like he makes his own decisions and is very bold when he does so. Do you have anything to back up your claim with, or are you just angry that he is in?

I think that behind each politician are influential people. Trump is also no exception. Someone decided that Trump would win. So it was necessary. And these are not the people who ruled Obama

I agree. Just Trump give instructions to other people, so many feel that he himself makes these decisions.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: JGoRed on May 04, 2017, 01:45:59 PM
I think that behind each politician are influential people. Trump is also no exception.
Usually it is donors that nudge politicians to do things, but since Trump is his own donor he doesn't answer to very many people.

Someone decided that Trump would win. So it was necessary. And these are not the people who ruled Obama
Yes, "someone" as in the American Public. They decide every election.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Xester on May 04, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Yes Or No
And Why

Yes Trump is better than Obama since Obama is only looking at the effects while Trump is looking at the cause of the problem. The reason why Trump is being always ridiculed since his actions have no direct effect to the beneficiaries or victims. On the other hand Obamas works was well felt since it has direct impact on the beneficiaries or victims but it had not solved the cause of the problem. For me if Trump can solve the root of the problems then the effects and impact of those problems can no longer affect the citizens.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: voltesbit777 on May 04, 2017, 03:05:03 PM
Yes Or No
And Why

Are you comparing Trump to Obama? You know what, former President Mr. Obama has already a result after His terms as a president, now is Mr. Trump administration turns, we can only find the answer perhaps after the terms of Mr. president trump I think. ;)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: SidaroffVany on May 05, 2017, 05:25:12 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

Are you comparing Trump to Obama? You know what, former President Mr. Obama has already a result after His terms as a president, now is Mr. Trump administration turns, we can only find the answer perhaps after the terms of Mr. president trump I think. ;)
Trump and Obama This is truly two different people who have different legal backgrounds or will rule the country. I think that due to their moral qualities, these people will do and will still do a lot for the US in various spheres and areas of the country's life.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: sportis on May 05, 2017, 10:58:00 AM
It is definitely too early to judge. The only thing I see and I do not think that will change in the future is Trump makes quick decisions and is not interested to keep the protocol with other leaders. It is also an unpredictable man or the media have failed till now to understand his temper. But surely, after the end of his presidential term, everyone will remember him.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Alexzap on May 05, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
It is definitely too early to judge. The only thing I see and I do not think that will change in the future is Trump makes quick decisions and is not interested to keep the protocol with other leaders. It is also an unpredictable man or the media have failed till now to understand his temper. But surely, after the end of his presidential term, everyone will remember him.
Trump really has an unusual behavior in international relations. As for his unpredictability that it just seems. Trump goes on the markers which he defined. Any attempt to go beyond the quickly repressed and a Trump is returned in the right direction.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Omegasun on May 05, 2017, 11:26:04 AM
Trump is far enough to compare to Obama. I think Trump is better than Obama even if his behaviors is not good on foreign relations. But he always act quickly and very fast on making solution. Unlike Obama, he is just watching problems and very busy for implementing law that not needed of the USA just like same sex marriage. He is the worst President of the USA for me.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Alexzap on May 05, 2017, 11:33:24 AM
Trump is far enough to compare to Obama. I think Trump is better than Obama even if his behaviors is not good on foreign relations. But he always act quickly and very fast on making solution. Unlike Obama, he is just watching problems and very busy for implementing law that not needed of the USA just like same sex marriage. He is the worst President of the USA for me.
If you believe the rating is Obama one of best presidents of America, and Trump one of the worst. I do not support Obama for his weakness. He really took no decisive action, and when it America has lost its image as a world leader, but all his decisions were deliberate and measured. What can be said about Trump. Trump decides not the mind and emotions. It is good in business but not in politics.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: llyfee4u on May 05, 2017, 11:56:52 AM
These two are incomparable.  Extremes of political and moral spectrum in my view.  Obama had the opportunity to make real difference in the world but his performance was mediocre at best.   Trump? He simply shouldn't be a public office. 


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: poldanmig on May 05, 2017, 05:59:37 PM
Trump is better than Obama. Because, the current American President is Donald Trump and Trump is a vigorous figure.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Lieldoryn on May 05, 2017, 06:07:32 PM
Trump is better than Obama. Because, the current American President is Donald Trump and Trump is a vigorous figure.
Unfortunately Obama was smart, but weak President. He tried to reason peacefully and this contributed to the fact that the enemies of America lost to not fear. Trump is stupid, but he is able to act. His determination is the only positive quality he has.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: DrPepperJC on May 05, 2017, 07:07:22 PM
Trump is better than Obama. Because, the current American President is Donald Trump and Trump is a vigorous figure.
Unfortunately Obama was smart, but weak President. He tried to reason peacefully and this contributed to the fact that the enemies of America lost to not fear. Trump is stupid, but he is able to act. His determination is the only positive quality he has.
It seems to me that America's Ivan will now take a different path. The citizens of the United States therefore chose the tramp to make America's international policy more tough, because because of Obama's actions, the image of the United States of America is somewhat dimmed.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Lieldoryn on May 05, 2017, 07:23:17 PM
Trump is better than Obama. Because, the current American President is Donald Trump and Trump is a vigorous figure.
Unfortunately Obama was smart, but weak President. He tried to reason peacefully and this contributed to the fact that the enemies of America lost to not fear. Trump is stupid, but he is able to act. His determination is the only positive quality he has.
It seems to me that America's Ivan will now take a different path. The citizens of the United States therefore chose the tramp to make America's international policy more tough, because because of Obama's actions, the image of the United States of America is somewhat dimmed.
Do you believe that the image of a brilliant graduate University is worse than the image of the mentally retarded old cowboy? Actually I am far from thinking that Trump will decide on the action. I think that if it America will guide Congress and the Senate.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on May 05, 2017, 09:30:37 PM
Trump is better than Obama. Because, the current American President is Donald Trump and Trump is a vigorous figure.
Unfortunately Obama was smart, but weak President. He tried to reason peacefully and this contributed to the fact that the enemies of America lost to not fear. Trump is stupid, but he is able to act. His determination is the only positive quality he has.
It seems to me that America's Ivan will now take a different path. The citizens of the United States therefore chose the tramp to make America's international policy more tough, because because of Obama's actions, the image of the United States of America is somewhat dimmed.
Do you believe that the image of a brilliant graduate University is worse than the image of the mentally retarded old cowboy? Actually I am far from thinking that Trump will decide on the action. I think that if it America will guide Congress and the Senate.

If Congress ever gets the guts to stand up to the President, they can override most of everything that he does. The reason why they don't is, their people won't elect them next time if they oppose what the people want >>> what the president does.

8)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: GreenBits on May 06, 2017, 02:39:06 PM
Trump is better than Obama. Because, the current American President is Donald Trump and Trump is a vigorous figure.
Unfortunately Obama was smart, but weak President. He tried to reason peacefully and this contributed to the fact that the enemies of America lost to not fear. Trump is stupid, but he is able to act. His determination is the only positive quality he has.
It seems to me that America's Ivan will now take a different path. The citizens of the United States therefore chose the tramp to make America's international policy more tough, because because of Obama's actions, the image of the United States of America is somewhat dimmed.
Do you believe that the image of a brilliant graduate University is worse than the image of the mentally retarded old cowboy? Actually I am far from thinking that Trump will decide on the action. I think that if it America will guide Congress and the Senate.

If Congress ever gets the guts to stand up to the President, they can override most of everything that he does. The reason why they don't is, their people won't elect them next time if they oppose what the people want >>> what the president does.

8)

I agree with Bad and Liel wholeheartedly. And I have to add, is inaction by the GOP (the party under the microscope at the moment)  just as bad as acquiescence? Elections are coming up soon. If they just go with the flow as far as some of Trumps more unpopular policies (healthcare, for example), will they get reelected by an angry constituency?

I have the feeling the GOP will be largely underrepresented by 2020. I think people are starting to see that they like free shit from the government, and that if that comes with regulations, meh. I never understood the anti welfare/ social assistance rhetoric, as alot of the low income Republican voting base uses these programs to survive. There would be alot more people affected if SNAP was dissolved in rural american vs urban America, because more people use SNAP in rural areas. Same with healthcare. But the rhetoric is damned good apparently, since Reagan.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: lovenhom on May 08, 2017, 04:06:01 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
I do not like anyone more than anyone , because everyone will have their strengths and weaknesses.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Maximilian_333 on May 08, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
I do not like anyone more than anyone , because everyone will have their strengths and weaknesses.
All people have strengths and weaknesses. It is for this reason chief not the President, and his team. I like Obama, but he was too tolerant towards the enemies of America. I think that's wrong. Trump and his team seems foolish. Hope that I'm wrong.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 08, 2017, 04:52:07 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
I do not like anyone more than anyone , because everyone will have their strengths and weaknesses.

I could agree with that statement. But you should remember that Obama's strength was in playing golf, and not in administration. On the other hand, Trump's strength lies in his independent nature.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: MattScott on May 08, 2017, 04:57:52 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
I do not like anyone more than anyone , because everyone will have their strengths and weaknesses.

I could agree with that statement. But you should remember that Obama's strength was in playing golf, and not in administration. On the other hand, Trump's strength lies in his independent nature.
Why do you think that Trump as an independent? First anyone who has money depends on them. Secondly, we have not waited for the end of the investigation on the fact of cooperation Trump or his team with the Russian. The third Trump is lobbying the interests of defense companies, and this dependence.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kodes88 on May 08, 2017, 07:17:52 PM
Why should we judge this? Even Trump has just begun to lead. Trump has not been 1 year leading the United States, while Obama led the United States for 2 periods. If you really want to compare Trump and Obama, this is not the time, wait until Trump leads even longer, at least up to 1 period. So the performance can we value in total.

I somewhat agree, but then Trump has already started working on so many of his campaign promises. He has appointed a conservative to fill the vacancy left by the late judge Scalia. So far, he is doing good.

Yes indeed, Trump works well so far. But I think it's unfair to judge who is better among them, while the amount of time they work is still very different. I think Obama also works pretty well. The United States voted Obama as president twice, meaning the United States was satisfied with Obama's performance in the first period.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: DeanShow on May 08, 2017, 07:22:59 PM
Why should we judge this? Even Trump has just begun to lead. Trump has not been 1 year leading the United States, while Obama led the United States for 2 periods. If you really want to compare Trump and Obama, this is not the time, wait until Trump leads even longer, at least up to 1 period. So the performance can we value in total.

I somewhat agree, but then Trump has already started working on so many of his campaign promises. He has appointed a conservative to fill the vacancy left by the late judge Scalia. So far, he is doing good.

Yes indeed, Trump works well so far. But I think it's unfair to judge who is better among them, while the amount of time they work is still very different. I think Obama also works pretty well. The United States voted Obama as president twice, meaning the United States was satisfied with Obama's performance in the first period.
I'm sure that if the US could run for a third term, Obama would have won. Trump already lower rating than Obama after two terms. My opinion of course Obama is better than Trump.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: JGoRed on May 08, 2017, 10:22:42 PM
If Congress ever gets the guts to stand up to the President, they can override most of everything that he does. The reason why they don't is, their people won't elect them next time if they oppose what the people want >>> what the president does.
Well, yea; if the people elect Trump and congress decides to try to stop him then they won't be re-elected. Regardless, however, they do seem to be trying to stop him. A lot :/


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Lieldoryn on May 08, 2017, 11:30:44 PM
If Congress ever gets the guts to stand up to the President, they can override most of everything that he does. The reason why they don't is, their people won't elect them next time if they oppose what the people want >>> what the president does.
Well, yea; if the people elect Trump and congress decides to try to stop him then they won't be re-elected. Regardless, however, they do seem to be trying to stop him. A lot :/
If Congress is going to find substantiated proof that nothing bad will happen. It would be much worse if Lawmakers will find evidence and keep silence about it. Let me remind you that the investigation is carried out into the relations with Russia, and this is the main enemy of the security of America.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: GreenBits on May 08, 2017, 11:42:19 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
I do not like anyone more than anyone , because everyone will have their strengths and weaknesses.

I could agree with that statement. But you should remember that Obama's strength was in playing golf, and not in administration. On the other hand, Trump's strength lies in his independent nature.

Well, it seems Trump is pretty fond of a little golf himself. Not so easy to track because his aides obscure the fact he frequently plays:
http://www.ajc.com/lifestyles/presidential-golf-tracker-obama-333-trump/UTQsQk7WKGDE2ANyDsMklM/

Still has a ways to go, but if he keeps it up, he might eclipse him in just one term ;)

And we won't even talk about the fact that, in his first 100 days, he spent more weekends staying at an actual golf course instead of the White House. And not Camp David or one of the free presidential retreats, but no, his own golf resort, at tax payers expense, which he then profits from because he never divested his assets. also, it's extraordinarily expensive to protect him in something as insecure as a golf resort, New York is struggling to pay for protection for the First Family at Trump Tower. We are hemorrhaging money here, people, yet we are talking about saving money through budget cuts to vital programs/offices.

So when he gets bored of doing bigly things, we all pay for him to go play golf. Which he literally, actually pockets, because he owns the golf course.

But you know, Obama playing golf an average of once every 8.8 days is certainly a cool talking point, no?

BTW, for Trump it's 1 in 5.9 days ;)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on May 09, 2017, 12:00:37 AM
We can not be sure of that. But the point of concern is that the trump from the beginning of the campaign has always been a sensation, I think a wise leader will avoid it. We'll see which one is better, because every citizen wants the best of course.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 09, 2017, 01:50:54 AM
I think Obama also works pretty well. The United States voted Obama as president twice, meaning the United States was satisfied with Obama's performance in the first period.

Obama was elected just because he was black. He had no other qualifications to become the president of the United States. A lot of whites supported him, so that no one would accuse them of being racist.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: solitare on May 09, 2017, 11:45:35 AM
Obama will be remembered as the worst President in American history.

So yes Trump is orders of magnitude better than Obama already.



Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Winchester2211 on May 09, 2017, 11:53:48 AM
I think Obama also works pretty well. The United States voted Obama as president twice, meaning the United States was satisfied with Obama's performance in the first period.

Obama was elected just because he was black. He had no other qualifications to become the president of the United States. A lot of whites supported him, so that no one would accuse them of being racist.
How can you say that. Obama is a smart man, and his rating is higher than the Trump, even after over two terms of his stay in power. Trump is stupid and will not be able to do anything good for America.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Prohodimec on May 09, 2017, 11:57:05 AM
I think Obama also works pretty well. The United States voted Obama as president twice, meaning the United States was satisfied with Obama's performance in the first period.

Obama was elected just because he was black. He had no other qualifications to become the president of the United States. A lot of whites supported him, so that no one would accuse them of being racist.
How can you say that. Obama is a smart man, and his rating is higher than the Trump, even after over two terms of his stay in power. Trump is stupid and will not be able to do anything good for America.

I agree. Obama's rating was much higher, and on Trump everyone is laughing and he is too old to do something serious.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Machanto on May 09, 2017, 12:17:53 PM
Trump is not ready to be compared to Obama yet, he has been president for only 5 months the candidates are judged by their views and actions, hardcore Republicans will say that Trump is better and Democrats will support Obama on that matter so no one is objectively better or worse in that category. Trump cant be judged for his actions yet since we hardly saw any. He promised huge changes but he hasnt delivered anything yet, for now I am dissapointed because it seems that he only made promises to appease to votes


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Forester618 on May 09, 2017, 12:33:27 PM
I think Obama also works pretty well. The United States voted Obama as president twice, meaning the United States was satisfied with Obama's performance in the first period.

Obama was elected just because he was black. He had no other qualifications to become the president of the United States. A lot of whites supported him, so that no one would accuse them of being racist.
How can you say that. Obama is a smart man, and his rating is higher than the Trump, even after over two terms of his stay in power. Trump is stupid and will not be able to do anything good for America.

I agree. Obama's rating was much higher, and on Trump everyone is laughing and he is too old to do something serious.
Trump is not only old but also stupid to do something serious. It seems to me that the election Trump is a big mistake of America. I did not hear from him not a smart idea. I think that with this support, we can say that Trump won't go for a second term.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: crypto.classroom on May 09, 2017, 02:59:47 PM
I am so sick of the whole political mess.  I have lost any faith in the current American government. To me, ALL governments are nothing more than criminal gangs.  I do feel strongly however that we are in much better hands with Trump than we have been in a long long time.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Perle on May 09, 2017, 03:55:10 PM
I am so sick of the whole political mess.  I have lost any faith in the current American government. To me, ALL governments are nothing more than criminal gangs.  I do feel strongly however that we are in much better hands with Trump than we have been in a long long time.

The whole government is a criminal group in every country, they care only about themselves and fight for power.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 10, 2017, 01:54:27 AM
I agree. Obama's rating was much higher, and on Trump everyone is laughing and he is too old to do something serious.

Ratings don't matter much, and they are not reliable. Obama had a loyal following among the minorities and the youth, and they supported him irrespective of his performance. And regarding Trump, you can't judge someone after just 3 months in the office.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: lovesybitz on May 10, 2017, 03:02:19 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

Are you comparing Trump to Obama? You know what, former President Mr. Obama has already a result after His terms as a president, now is Mr. Trump administration turns, we can only find the answer perhaps after the terms of Mr. president trump I think. ;)
Trump and Obama This is truly two different people who have different legal backgrounds or will rule the country. I think that due to their moral qualities, these people will do and will still do a lot for the US in various spheres and areas of the country's life.


In addition to that, I know Trump can do something different than to Obama, perhaps I do believed even there more critics to Trump, it can be that in the end they will realize that the quality service of Mr. Trump be shown up by His dedication as a president of the united state.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kreskko on May 10, 2017, 03:30:42 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

Are you comparing Trump to Obama? You know what, former President Mr. Obama has already a result after His terms as a president, now is Mr. Trump administration turns, we can only find the answer perhaps after the terms of Mr. president trump I think. ;)
Trump and Obama This is truly two different people who have different legal backgrounds or will rule the country. I think that due to their moral qualities, these people will do and will still do a lot for the US in various spheres and areas of the country's life.


In addition to that, I know Trump can do something different than to Obama, perhaps I do believed even there more critics to Trump, it can be that in the end they will realize that the quality service of Mr. Trump be shown up by His dedication as a president of the united state.
I think that the contrast between these individuals is so great that it is not even necessary to compare them. Trump and Obama have made and still brought a lot of things into the history of not only the country, but the world as a whole. Of course the last actions are very weakly succumbed to logic, but you do not have to argue.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: squatz1 on May 10, 2017, 04:01:45 AM
In my own opinion, I think that he is, but this simply isn't going to follow everyone else on this forum based on the simple fact that not everyone is going to be supporting/liking the same ideological views, so we're bound to like different people when it comes ruling government but I'll lay out some reasons. I do feel as if Trump is someone who is more of a "Lets get things done" then lets "see what the pollsters think about this" as he's going to follow what's best for the country and not what's most popular at that moment.

I feel that he cares about the country to a very high regard, because at this point in his life as a billionaire and considering how old he is I doubt he'd be taking this position in order to make more stress by doing corrupt things. I think that he actually wants to help the common people and he has a vision for this nation, I feel that Obama was a shill from the Democratic party and was just trying to advance their agenda in order to try to win elections for them - not considering the country.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Aleister Crowley on May 10, 2017, 05:20:14 AM
I agree. Obama's rating was much higher, and on Trump everyone is laughing and he is too old to do something serious.

Ratings don't matter much, and they are not reliable. Obama had a loyal following among the minorities and the youth, and they supported him irrespective of his performance. And regarding Trump, you can't judge someone after just 3 months in the office.

Americans: 45% say Obama is better than Trump, 37% said trump would be better than Obama, and 15% think they would be equally good at leading America. Their characters are very different, trump are more aggressive, brave, and perhaps more threatening, that's true, trump has not been president long, we all still can not see which one is better, but according to research I read. The popularity and rating of Obama is better than trump.
We see after a few years trump lead america, who better.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: JGoRed on May 11, 2017, 03:52:36 PM
Quote from: Aleister Crowley
Americans: 45% say Obama is better than Trump, 37% said trump would be better than Obama, and 15% think they would be equally good at leading America.
And yet those same poles said Hillary would win by a land slide, and yet look how everything worked out. It’s hard to trust those same poles now since they were so wrong (or biased) against Trump before.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: saflem on May 11, 2017, 04:27:46 PM
I agree. Obama's rating was much higher, and on Trump everyone is laughing and he is too old to do something serious.

Ratings don't matter much, and they are not reliable. Obama had a loyal following among the minorities and the youth, and they supported him irrespective of his performance. And regarding Trump, you can't judge someone after just 3 months in the office.

Americans: 45% say Obama is better than Trump, 37% said trump would be better than Obama, and 15% think they would be equally good at leading America. Their characters are very different, trump are more aggressive, brave, and perhaps more threatening, that's true, trump has not been president long, we all still can not see which one is better, but according to research I read. The popularity and rating of Obama is better than trump.
We see after a few years trump lead america, who better.
Why only research? Look at the actions of Trump, they not only have a clearly populist but has no strategy. For this reason, many people say that Trump is unpredictable. Did such actions, he can exalt America?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Hazir on May 11, 2017, 05:16:42 PM
Quote from: Aleister Crowley
Americans: 45% say Obama is better than Trump, 37% said trump would be better than Obama, and 15% think they would be equally good at leading America.
And yet those same poles said Hillary would win by a land slide, and yet look how everything worked out. It’s hard to trust those same poles now since they were so wrong (or biased) against Trump before.
Exactly. Why do we even bother with official statistics and polls. It is bullshit and not real way to measure popularity. These numbers can be easily twisted.
It is publicly known that media establishment is against Trump, he has poor press, because he hates mainstream media idiocy, so they hate him in return.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 13, 2017, 04:54:29 AM
Quote from: Aleister Crowley
Americans: 45% say Obama is better than Trump, 37% said trump would be better than Obama, and 15% think they would be equally good at leading America.
And yet those same poles said Hillary would win by a land slide, and yet look how everything worked out. It’s hard to trust those same poles now since they were so wrong (or biased) against Trump before.
Exactly. Why do we even bother with official statistics and polls. It is bullshit and not real way to measure popularity. These numbers can be easily twisted.
It is publicly known that media establishment is against Trump, he has poor press, because he hates mainstream media idiocy, so they hate him in return.

The mainstream media in the United States has swung to the far-left almost a decade back. The center-right and the right sympathizers are mostly depending upon the social media, or getting their daily dose of information from websites such as the Breitbart News Network. 


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: robelneo on May 13, 2017, 06:36:59 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

I think no I don't like Trump racist policy I'm not an american but he has a lot of policy that is not within american being the champion of freedom and equality,he tries to build a wall to prevent mexican and some muslims country from entering the US


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: bitcoinstress on May 13, 2017, 11:53:16 AM
What's the point?? Everyone has their favorite politician and what exactly is your goal doing this poll.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 14, 2017, 10:00:38 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

I think no I don't like Trump racist policy I'm not an american but he has a lot of policy that is not within american being the champion of freedom and equality,he tries to build a wall to prevent mexican and some muslims country from entering the US

It is called law enforcement, and not racism. If the Mexicans want to work in the United States, then they should first apply for a work visa there, and after that they should immigrate legally.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: iram3130 on May 14, 2017, 12:16:38 PM
What's the point?? Everyone has their favorite politician and what exactly is your goal doing this poll.

To know the opinion of the people. To many countries, Obama was friendly but Trump started his presidency with travel ban.. :D

IMO both will do what they can to run their country with less problems. It's only after Trump's tenure we'll know the outcome.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: warrior333 on May 14, 2017, 12:39:53 PM
I do think that Trump an inadequate man. His militancy and restrictions associated with the attempt to prove to myself and everyone else that he's not like really are. It has no strategy. He acts according to circumstances. This leads to unpredictability in his behavior.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kodes88 on May 14, 2017, 03:48:57 PM
I think Obama also works pretty well. The United States voted Obama as president twice, meaning the United States was satisfied with Obama's performance in the first period.

Obama was elected just because he was black. He had no other qualifications to become the president of the United States. A lot of whites supported him, so that no one would accuse them of being racist.

Lol how can people be elected president of a country just because of skin color? Especially for countries as large as UNITED STATES. Your mind is too filthy, you are too demonstrating your hatred for Obama so you make a statement that makes no sense. Obama was elected because he was a smart man, was elected 2 times is proof.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Spendulus on May 14, 2017, 03:52:09 PM
I think Obama also works pretty well. The United States voted Obama as president twice, meaning the United States was satisfied with Obama's performance in the first period.

Obama was elected just because he was black. He had no other qualifications to become the president of the United States. A lot of whites supported him, so that no one would accuse them of being racist.

Lol how can people be elected president of a country just because of skin color? Especially for countries as large as UNITED STATES. Your mind is too filthy, you are too demonstrating your hatred for Obama so you make a statement that makes no sense. Obama was elected because he was a smart man, was elected 2 times is proof.

Because, yes, they're stupid.

Stupid enough to double down on stupid.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on May 14, 2017, 08:22:37 PM
Trump is NOT better than Obama. He's just faster than Obama.

When you are doing good and right things like Trump is (and Obama wasn't), you don't have to cover up your actions at all (like Obama did). It's simply easier and faster to get things done that way.

8)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: joebrook on May 14, 2017, 10:33:48 PM
Trump has shown himself to be very effective, Obama had both the House and Senate during his first two years and little was done, Trump also has the same advantage ans he is doing a whole lot in such time. He is a businessman and he knows the value of time.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 15, 2017, 04:04:27 AM
Lol how can people be elected president of a country just because of skin color? Especially for countries as large as UNITED STATES. Your mind is too filthy, you are too demonstrating your hatred for Obama so you make a statement that makes no sense. Obama was elected because he was a smart man, was elected 2 times is proof.

In 2008, more than 97% of the African Americans voted for Barack Obama, and John McCain got around 2% of the black vote. The stats are self-explanatory. Also, there were racist attacks against white people who put up McCain signboards.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: muffinbiller on May 15, 2017, 05:07:30 AM
Trump has shown himself to be very effective, Obama had both the House and Senate during his first two years and little was done, Trump also has the same advantage ans he is doing a whole lot in such time. He is a businessman and he knows the value of time.
YES, One thing for sure is he LOVES this Country, unlike OBAMA. Progressives spend the majority of their time Concentrating on trying to become another Country when they should be Concentrating on getting them to be more like uis.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: joromz1226 on May 15, 2017, 05:09:32 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

We cannot compare ourselves to others, because we had our own strength and weaknesses, we had our own good and bad behavior.
Which means you have something you can do where other's can't do, and your neighbor has something that He/She can do which you cannot do, vice versa.  ;)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: mothergodness on May 15, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

We cannot compare ourselves to others, because we had our own strength and weaknesses, we had our own good and bad behavior.
Which means you have something you can do where other's can't do, and your neighbor has something that He/She can do which you cannot do, vice versa.  ;)

Yes, everyone can make mistakes in different life situations. It is important how he later will try to correct his mistakes.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: VadikZimnyayaRezina on May 15, 2017, 04:37:54 PM
Yes Or No
And Why

We cannot compare ourselves to others, because we had our own strength and weaknesses, we had our own good and bad behavior.
Which means you have something you can do where other's can't do, and your neighbor has something that He/She can do which you cannot do, vice versa.  ;)

Yes, everyone can make mistakes in different life situations. It is important how he later will try to correct his mistakes.

You can not always correct your mistakes. Special. If this is associated with a loss of life. Obama's policy was aggressive and led to many deaths. I hope that Trump will not fight


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Elcapsono on May 15, 2017, 07:26:47 PM
Yes Or No
And Why

We cannot compare ourselves to others, because we had our own strength and weaknesses, we had our own good and bad behavior.
Which means you have something you can do where other's can't do, and your neighbor has something that He/She can do which you cannot do, vice versa.  ;)
Yes you cannot but upon checking the profile of once person you can see his attitude/background of himself thus I can say that Trump is a piece of racist and Obama is better on handling the USA. If we're comparing the two.
There is a time when the time comes for the citizens of the country to choose, but do not do it from anyone. And it is necessary to choose from those candidates who are, practically every voter can choose that applicant who is considered the least evil. Maybe it happened with Obama, but I'm very surprised. Why did not Clinton or at least McCain go.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: gollygosh on May 15, 2017, 07:32:24 PM
Trump grab them by the pussy and kill the families - WHAT A GUY


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: wolfracer on May 15, 2017, 09:11:04 PM
They have there differences, but it alls going to define each other in the way trump lead the US, we all know that obama did a great job with the country, lets see if trump can do the same.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 16, 2017, 07:48:51 AM
They have there differences, but it alls going to define each other in the way trump lead the US, we all know that obama did a great job with the country, lets see if trump can do the same.

Please explain what did you meant by "great job". Obama increased the federal debt from $10 trillion to $20 trillion in less than  8 years. These figures are not just some meaningless random numbers. This means that the future American generations are bonded to debt for the entire life.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on May 17, 2017, 08:08:06 PM
Judge Napolitano: 'Scalia Told Me He Often Thought Supreme Court Was Being Surveilled'... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/218155-2017-05-17-judge-napolitano-scalia-told-me-he-often-thought-supreme-court.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0517075142-Napalitano-and-wiretapping.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/218155-2017-05-17-judge-napolitano-scalia-told-me-he-often-thought-supreme-court.htm)


Judge Andrew Napolitano said Monday on Fox Business that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia told him he often thought the Supreme Court was being surveilled under the Obama administration.

From The Gateway Pundit:

Judge Andrew Napolitano, Fox News senior judicial analyst, went on FOX Business Network on Monday to discuss allegations Senator Rand Paul and another senator were under surveillance by the Obama administration.

Napolitano also dropped a bomb on the Obama administration spying on the US Supreme Court.


Were senators under surveillance by Obama administration?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gxWoh4ujiRk/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=67&sigh=L8o8jjLRyqHBdxdB0ZxjUQQrCRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxWoh4ujiRk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxWoh4ujiRk)


Read more at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2017/05/17/judge-napolitano-scalia-told-me-he-often-thought-supreme-court-was-being-surveilled-under-obama/.


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on May 17, 2017, 08:12:35 PM
MEDIA DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW
SHOCKING THING OBAMA SAID ABOUT TRUMP
IN 1991
(http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/218159-2017-05-17-media-doesnt-want-you-to-know-shocking-thing-obama-said.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0517081641-Obama-1991.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/218159-2017-05-17-media-doesnt-want-you-to-know-shocking-thing-obama-said.htm)


Quote
Sub for more: http://nnn.is/the_new_media (http://nnn.is/the_new_media) | V Saxena for The Conservative Tribune reports, In a paper written 26 years ago, then-Harvard Law School student Barack Obama touted then-businessman Donald J. Trump's stunning success as a perfect example of what most Americans perceived to be the ultimate manifestation of the American Dream.


MEDIA DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW
SHOCKING THING OBAMA SAID ABOUT TRUMP
IN 1991

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8suKu4H1jMI/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=246&h=138&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=67&sigh=0-sS_HMEsQ8kSynXAb1Fdmgahi8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8suKu4H1jMI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8suKu4H1jMI)


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: krankNL on May 17, 2017, 08:14:43 PM
I was thinking that Trump would be much better than Obama. I see Trump is supporting terrorist organizations such as YPG, PKK etc. in Syria. This is unacceptable.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on May 17, 2017, 08:24:55 PM
Obama Reveals True Thoughts On Trump:
"He's Nothing But A Bullshitter"
(http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/218157-2017-05-17-obama-reveals-true-thoughts-on-trump-hes-nothing-but-a.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0517080127-trump-and-obama.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/218157-2017-05-17-obama-reveals-true-thoughts-on-trump-hes-nothing-but-a.htm)


People Magazine decided to dedicate their cover story this month to their beloved "cool, even-keeled, no-drama Barack Obama."  And even though it will come as surprise to precisely no one, the story apparently includes the "bombshell" revelation that....wait for it...Obama can't stand Trump...shocking, we know.

According to two anonymous sources friendly with the Obamas, People Magazine revealed that Obama frequently describes Trump as "nothing but a bullshitter"...

"He's nothing but a bullsh–ter," Obama told two friends early last November, describing an election night phone call with Trump, in which the businessman suddenly professed his "respect" and "admiration" for Obama—after years of hectoring.

Speaking to PEOPLE for its new cover story on Obama and his wife Michelle adjusting to life outside the White House, the two friends quoted Obama's blunt assessment of President-elect Trump. And how has Obama's opinion changed since Trump been in office? "Well," said one of the sources, "it hasn't gotten any better."

...all of which is odd because they seemed so friendly and comfortable in this pic of their first Oval Office meeting.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2017/05/17/2017.05.15%20-%20Obama%20Trump_0.JPG

Meanwhile, after hinting that he would lead the opposition movement against Trump, Obama's friends now say he plans to be "very respectful of the appropriate role of a former president."  Which we assume can be loosely translated to mean that he's not interested in playing petty political games when he can focus on making millions of dollars selling 1-hour speeches to Wall Street for $400k a pop.


Read more at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-17/obama-reveals-true-thoughts-trump-hes-nothing-bullshitter.


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: chain_chain on May 17, 2017, 10:33:41 PM
I've heard few times, that Trump is really about all of this cryptocurrency stuff, so YES


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: JofryTheKing on May 17, 2017, 11:19:37 PM
Obama Reveals True Thoughts On Trump:
"He's Nothing But A Bullshitter"
(http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/218157-2017-05-17-obama-reveals-true-thoughts-on-trump-hes-nothing-but-a.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0517080127-trump-and-obama.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/218157-2017-05-17-obama-reveals-true-thoughts-on-trump-hes-nothing-but-a.htm)


People Magazine decided to dedicate their cover story this month to their beloved "cool, even-keeled, no-drama Barack Obama."  And even though it will come as surprise to precisely no one, the story apparently includes the "bombshell" revelation that....wait for it...Obama can't stand Trump...shocking, we know.

According to two anonymous sources friendly with the Obamas, People Magazine revealed that Obama frequently describes Trump as "nothing but a bullshitter"...

"He's nothing but a bullsh–ter," Obama told two friends early last November, describing an election night phone call with Trump, in which the businessman suddenly professed his "respect" and "admiration" for Obama—after years of hectoring.

Speaking to PEOPLE for its new cover story on Obama and his wife Michelle adjusting to life outside the White House, the two friends quoted Obama's blunt assessment of President-elect Trump. And how has Obama's opinion changed since Trump been in office? "Well," said one of the sources, "it hasn't gotten any better."

...all of which is odd because they seemed so friendly and comfortable in this pic of their first Oval Office meeting.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2017/05/17/2017.05.15%20-%20Obama%20Trump_0.JPG

Meanwhile, after hinting that he would lead the opposition movement against Trump, Obama's friends now say he plans to be "very respectful of the appropriate role of a former president."  Which we assume can be loosely translated to mean that he's not interested in playing petty political games when he can focus on making millions of dollars selling 1-hour speeches to Wall Street for $400k a pop.


Read more at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-17/obama-reveals-true-thoughts-trump-hes-nothing-bullshitter.


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The film Barack Obama and Donald Trump are two different people in the state of mind and even character, and everyone in the presidency, did and will do quite the opposite things. But it is fair to say that their actions are judged only by history.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Lieldoryn on May 18, 2017, 02:41:43 AM
Trump is worse than Obama. He is an Amateur in politics and I think has a great mind. For this reason, Trump is constantly haunted by scandals. The actions of such an inadequate person like Trump can lead to unpredictable consequences for America and not have to wait when it'll be history. We see it now.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kirch on May 18, 2017, 02:49:10 AM
The mainstream media is against Trump and every action of him is blown out of proportion (in a bad light)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on May 18, 2017, 03:17:41 AM
Trump is worse than Obama. He is an Amateur in politics and I think has a great mind. For this reason, Trump is constantly haunted by scandals. The actions of such an inadequate person like Trump can lead to unpredictable consequences for America and not have to wait when it'll be history. We see it now.

Trump is better than Obama. He is an Amateur in politics. Why would anyone want a shrewd politician. Because he is a good talker? That doesn't help anyone.

8)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: PancherBitCoin on May 18, 2017, 05:15:59 AM
Trump is worse than Obama. He is an Amateur in politics and I think has a great mind. For this reason, Trump is constantly haunted by scandals. The actions of such an inadequate person like Trump can lead to unpredictable consequences for America and not have to wait when it'll be history. We see it now.

Trump is better than Obama. He is an Amateur in politics. Why would anyone want a shrewd politician. Because he is a good talker? That doesn't help anyone.

8)
I think that many still greatly underestimate the tramp and for some reason everyone compares it to Obama. Although they are very different politicians and people. I welcome some of the actions of the donald tramp, including even the bombing in Syria and a step such as Obama would never have done.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 18, 2017, 05:48:22 AM
The mainstream media is against Trump and every action of him is blown out of proportion (in a bad light)

The mainstream media is trying to extract their revenge against Trump. The president has treated them with the utmost disdain, and therefore all the major media houses have ganged up to teach him a lesson.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on May 23, 2017, 06:56:51 AM
Reagan Warned Us About Obama
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/P3hY1eagq88/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=67&sat=0.2&sigh=ngN3hK_zfjtBJ_fMUuHj3Sp3uxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3hY1eagq88 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3hY1eagq88)


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Gelap on May 23, 2017, 10:17:37 AM
I think Obama was better than Trump because Trump is now being racist and being a bad taste in our community.
Yes my friend really thinks better than obama trump because trump always make idea idea that does not make sense.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: oegarod on May 24, 2017, 04:36:20 AM
I think Obama was better than Trump because Trump is now being racist and being a bad taste in our community.
Yes my friend really thinks better than obama trump because trump always make idea idea that does not make sense.
Your friend might be good in making better ideas, but this doesn't make your friend better than Obama or Trump. I believe everyone has different ways of thinking based on the expertise he has got in different sectors and administrative functioning.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 24, 2017, 05:06:32 AM
I think Obama was better than Trump because Trump is now being racist and being a bad taste in our community.
Yes my friend really thinks better than obama trump because trump always make idea idea that does not make sense.

Both Obama and Trump had their own ideas. But it was the implementation, which was different. Obama's implementation was poor. And that is why despite increasing the federal debt by 100%, he failed to give a boost to the American economy.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Pemburu1 on May 24, 2017, 06:38:27 AM
Yes definitely obama better than Trump.

Which is common in some areas
And make the US economy unstable.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: rahmat92 on May 24, 2017, 07:01:15 AM
Donald trump and obama I think must have advantages and disadvantages of each

Obama who has long been an American president must have been felt good and bad by the people, but trump has just become president, so we all have not been able to determine his good or bad performance from trump.

If you want to prove it we look at the performance trump until his tenure is completed


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: 7daystodie on May 24, 2017, 08:15:10 AM
Donald trump and obama I think must have advantages and disadvantages of each

Obama who has long been an American president must have been felt good and bad by the people, but trump has just become president, so we all have not been able to determine his good or bad performance from trump.

If you want to prove it we look at the performance trump until his tenure is completed

Agreed, everyone has their own shortcomings and dignities. Trump still has time to do something about which you can be judged after a while.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kodes88 on May 24, 2017, 09:19:26 AM
Donald trump and obama I think must have advantages and disadvantages of each

Obama who has long been an American president must have been felt good and bad by the people, but trump has just become president, so we all have not been able to determine his good or bad performance from trump.

If you want to prove it we look at the performance trump until his tenure is completed

Agreed, everyone has their own shortcomings and dignities. Trump still has time to do something about which you can be judged after a while.

Barack Obama led the United States for two periods. People are able to assess their performance during the presidency. While Donald Trump has just started his duties as president. In fact he has not been president for a year. I think it's too early to compare what's better between them.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Joshua101101 on May 24, 2017, 11:39:38 AM
Donald trump and obama I think must have advantages and disadvantages of each

Obama who has long been an American president must have been felt good and bad by the people, but trump has just become president, so we all have not been able to determine his good or bad performance from trump.

If you want to prove it we look at the performance trump until his tenure is completed

Agreed, everyone has their own shortcomings and dignities. Trump still has time to do something about which you can be judged after a while.

Barack Obama led the United States for two periods. People are able to assess their performance during the presidency. While Donald Trump has just started his duties as president. In fact he has not been president for a year. I think it's too early to compare what's better between them.

Yes, Trump has not had time to do anything yet and his low rating at the very beginning of the government does not mean that he will not be able to improve the country during his government.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Tribizz on May 24, 2017, 11:59:08 AM
Nope, you can't judge a president by his one year in power.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: ZzV1Finn on May 24, 2017, 12:14:54 PM
Trump has not had time to do anything yet, so it's too early to compare him to any president.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: matuson on May 24, 2017, 12:20:54 PM
Trump has not had time to do anything yet, so it's too early to compare him to any president.
You are right, Trump has had a lot to do. He amused his inappropriate behavior to the whole world. Quarreled with all America's allies, passed classified information to the Russians, and surrounded himself with supporters of the Russian bombed for PR is an abandoned airfield in Syria, Ivanka received a bribe of $ 100 million. Do you think that enough? Lol.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: sergio red on May 24, 2017, 12:45:05 PM
I don't agree on this point. Only for 3 or more months is not enough to compare with Obama. He worked 8 years as a American President. On the other hand, Trump passed only 3 months so it is not high time to compare Trump with Obama.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: GG_monster on May 24, 2017, 12:47:47 PM
Trump has not had time to do anything yet, so it's too early to compare him to any president.
You are right, Trump has had a lot to do. He amused his inappropriate behavior to the whole world. Quarreled with all America's allies, passed classified information to the Russians, and surrounded himself with supporters of the Russian bombed for PR is an abandoned airfield in Syria, Ivanka received a bribe of $ 100 million. Do you think that enough? Lol.

What he did during this time shows him not on the best side, so some do not want to compare him now :)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Noctis Connor on May 24, 2017, 06:03:01 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
No i like obama more than trump , why? Trump is sarcastic and so mean he hates muslim and other religions i don't know why but to be honest obama is the greatest one who control his contry men regarding the problems of others trump is not enough experience to handle big problems for sure.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: jonnybravo0411 on May 24, 2017, 07:43:24 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
No i like obama more than trump , why? Trump is sarcastic and so mean he hates muslim and other religions i don't know why but to be honest obama is the greatest one who control his contry men regarding the problems of others trump is not enough experience to handle big problems for sure.
So that many critics are not dismissed, but during the Obama presidency, America had fewer problems than the Donald Trapp will receive at the cadence. Of course, with Obama, America lost its image but I do not believe that Trump will return it.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Spendulus on May 24, 2017, 08:49:46 PM
I don't agree on this point. Only for 3 or more months is not enough to compare with Obama. He worked 8 years as a American President. On the other hand, Trump passed only 3 months so it is not high time to compare Trump with Obama.

Trump has done more in 3 months than Obama in 96 months.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Lancusters on May 24, 2017, 10:41:50 PM
I don't agree on this point. Only for 3 or more months is not enough to compare with Obama. He worked 8 years as a American President. On the other hand, Trump passed only 3 months so it is not high time to compare Trump with Obama.

Trump has done more in 3 months than Obama in 96 months.
When you say that Trump made a lot of it seems to me that you either do not understand the situation or just joking. Trump did not do anything good and it was clearly evident what not to do. All his efforts are directed to avoid impeachment. This strategy will benefit America? Trump not trump it six.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: GreenBits on May 25, 2017, 01:24:44 AM
I don't agree on this point. Only for 3 or more months is not enough to compare with Obama. He worked 8 years as a American President. On the other hand, Trump passed only 3 months so it is not high time to compare Trump with Obama.

Trump has done more in 3 months than Obama in 96 months.

How? You yourself have pointed out the extreme adversity that Trump suffers at the hands of the rest of government, particularly the judicial branch. In such a hostile environment, how in the blue fuck (I've been itching to say that) could he even begin to launch his ill conceived policy? The best thing Trump has done for your party is get a Justice seated, due to Rebuplican assholery this was certainly beyond Obama. Healthcare repeal is DOA, CBO just scored that shit pretty much the same as the last version of the bill. Tax cuts won't fly becuase he won't be there long enough to institute them. And his budget, which hurts his own voting base, won't look anything like that once Congress gets ahold of it. Individual state politicians, bith sides, aren't going to like major defunding of programs their citizens use, they won't get relected and the state will foot the difference one way or another.

Trump did more on the Apprentice, than he has his first 100 days.

He should have stayed there.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Spendulus on May 25, 2017, 07:56:01 PM
I don't agree on this point. Only for 3 or more months is not enough to compare with Obama. He worked 8 years as a American President. On the other hand, Trump passed only 3 months so it is not high time to compare Trump with Obama.

Trump has done more in 3 months than Obama in 96 months.

How? You yourself have pointed out the extreme adversity that Trump suffers at the hands of the rest of government, particularly the judicial branch. In such a hostile environment, how in the blue fuck (I've been itching to say that) could he even begin to launch his ill conceived policy? The best thing Trump has done for your party is get a Justice seated, due to Rebuplican assholery this was certainly beyond Obama. Healthcare repeal is DOA, CBO just scored that shit pretty much the same as the last version of the bill. Tax cuts won't fly becuase he won't be there long enough to institute them. And his budget, which hurts his own voting base, won't look anything like that once Congress gets ahold of it. Individual state politicians, bith sides, aren't going to like major defunding of programs their citizens use, they won't get relected and the state will foot the difference one way or another.

Trump did more on the Apprentice, than he has his first 100 days.

He should have stayed there.

It seems like you'd like to answer a DIFFERENT QUESTION, or to put it another way, you'd like to just rant on about the future of Trump.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: douglock on May 25, 2017, 08:11:22 PM
I do think that trump is better than Obama. He like doing a lot of aggressive things to protect his country. No one want to recruit a guy who can bomb our country, right?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: seojp on May 26, 2017, 04:44:07 AM
No obama is better than trump because obama is a statesman unlike trump he is a rascist. Also obama has so many accomplishment like healtcare and he is a defender of a south China sea which the philippines one this via arbitral ruling in the hague.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: arifdadang34 on May 26, 2017, 05:02:08 AM
I think Trump is better than Obama because Trump is a man of confidence and would deliver all his promises and "make America great again" because he's not afraid of anyone. I know Trump has many problems and Obama has his own problems too, that's why I believe Trump is a better man compare to Obama.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: matuson on May 26, 2017, 09:59:23 AM
I think Trump is better than Obama because Trump is a man of confidence and would deliver all his promises and "make America great again" because he's not afraid of anyone. I know Trump has many problems and Obama has his own problems too, that's why I believe Trump is a better man compare to Obama.

Trump is worse than Obama because he is stupid. The fact that you are taking for bravery is actually stupidity, and his demeanor is funny and bizarre.at the international level. He will not be able to restore the greatness of America because he has no tactics no strategy how to do it.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: degaga15 on May 26, 2017, 11:23:34 AM
Trump is not better than Obama but Trump has not been long enough to occupy the bench president and the program has not all run, maybe the future can be seen Trump performance, new can compare which is better.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: CosmicVibe on May 26, 2017, 12:47:39 PM
Wow , I'm european but hell , the Trump fanboys are real overhere.  This is scary to think I somehow take advices on Bitcoin from you guys.

I'm not saying Obama was the best president, but you need to face it, Trump is a complete clown, not to mention his intelligence is clearly challenged.
I've read here that " at least he is not a puppet from elites" LOL  Just look at his tax breaks for the 0.1%, his healthcare plan, etc... I'm sorry but some of you are delusional.



Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 26, 2017, 12:53:02 PM
Trump is not better than Obama but Trump has not been long enough to occupy the bench president and the program has not all run, maybe the future can be seen Trump performance, new can compare which is better.

The first part of your post is contradicting the second part. First of all, you are claiming that Trump is worse than Obama. But at the same time, you are also saying that it is too early to judge Trump, as he has been in office for less than four months. So please enlighten us, which part of your post should we trust more?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on May 26, 2017, 02:27:01 PM
Trump is not better than Obama but Trump has not been long enough to occupy the bench president and the program has not all run, maybe the future can be seen Trump performance, new can compare which is better.

The first part of your post is contradicting the second part. First of all, you are claiming that Trump is worse than Obama. But at the same time, you are also saying that it is too early to judge Trump, as he has been in office for less than four months. So please enlighten us, which part of your post should we trust more?

Translation: So far, it seems that Trump is equal to Obama rather than better or worse. We will have to wait to see how things go later.


Actually, Trump has done some better things by switching where funding is going.

8)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 26, 2017, 02:37:54 PM
Trump is not better than Obama but Trump has not been long enough to occupy the bench president and the program has not all run, maybe the future can be seen Trump performance, new can compare which is better.

The first part of your post is contradicting the second part. First of all, you are claiming that Trump is worse than Obama. But at the same time, you are also saying that it is too early to judge Trump, as he has been in office for less than four months. So please enlighten us, which part of your post should we trust more?

Translation: So far, it seems that Trump is equal to Obama rather than better or worse. We will have to wait to see how things go later.


Actually, Trump has done some better things by switching where funding is going.

8)

There were a lot of achievements during the first few months. He reduced the federal debt, reclaimed US's image in the world stage, appointed an excellent person to the SCOTUS.etc.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: skillink on May 26, 2017, 02:44:09 PM
No, because he is too racist


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: halych on May 26, 2017, 07:31:24 PM
I think Trump is better than Obama because Trump is a man of confidence and would deliver all his promises and "make America great again" because he's not afraid of anyone. I know Trump has many problems and Obama has his own problems too, that's why I believe Trump is a better man compare to Obama.

Trump is worse than Obama because he is stupid. The fact that you are taking for bravery is actually stupidity, and his demeanor is funny and bizarre.at the international level. He will not be able to restore the greatness of America because he has no tactics no strategy how to do it.

He never ran a country, so he does not have these skills. But if he strives for perfection, then he will be able to become a very good leader. This person has potential. I wonder who is behind it


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 27, 2017, 05:05:41 AM
No, because he is too racist

Ah.. the same old trick. If he is indeed racist, then why can't you post some videos or audio clips which prove your argument? Never mind, because I know that you will not be able to find any.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: rajasumi3 on May 27, 2017, 05:13:56 AM
No .i think that trump is more worse than obama as his policies are totally racism,as it will impact the economy of country very much and in the near future america will go through crisis.As you may have heard what his policies are against the visa and if other countries do so,then other countries would be sole alone.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Lancusters on May 27, 2017, 12:22:13 PM
No, because he is too racist

Ah.. the same old trick. If he is indeed racist, then why can't you post some videos or audio clips which prove your argument? Never mind, because I know that you will not be able to find any.
How Trump behaved at the NATO summit with Prime Minister of Montenegro it is a manifestation of racism. He puts himself above others. Probably there exists also a megalomaniac. Trump is an example of the bad that can be in man. Maybe that's why the Russians recruited him.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: PancherBitCoin on May 27, 2017, 01:16:00 PM
For today I would have stopped unflattering reviews about the new president of America, Donald Trump. Despite all these conversations that were connected with the Russian Federation and Trump and still few reasons to judge a person. Today, almost all this scandals are connected only with this topic, because all the rest do not have such great importance.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Jikalau on May 27, 2017, 04:45:45 PM
Yes trump is better than obama because trump can make some country fear its political science


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: alphaSC on May 27, 2017, 04:46:49 PM
No because Trump is basically the Hitler of 2017.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: shimbark123 on May 27, 2017, 06:39:19 PM
For me its Obama


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: lisa255 on May 27, 2017, 09:28:32 PM
No, because he is too racist

Ah.. the same old trick. If he is indeed racist, then why can't you post some videos or audio clips which prove your argument? Never mind, because I know that you will not be able to find any.
How Trump behaved at the NATO summit with Prime Minister of Montenegro it is a manifestation of racism. He puts himself above others. Probably there exists also a megalomaniac. Trump is an example of the bad that can be in man. Maybe that's why the Russians recruited him.

The Russians never found a common language with Trump. So I do not think Trump is a Russian spy.
It's too early to talk about Trump as president. He has not done anything yet


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Spendulus on May 27, 2017, 10:10:08 PM
No, because he is too racist

Ah.. the same old trick. If he is indeed racist, then why can't you post some videos or audio clips which prove your argument? Never mind, because I know that you will not be able to find any.
How Trump behaved at the NATO summit with Prime Minister of Montenegro it is a manifestation of racism. ....

hey, that Prime Minister looks awfully white to me!


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 28, 2017, 05:32:46 AM
How Trump behaved at the NATO summit with Prime Minister of Montenegro it is a manifestation of racism. He puts himself above others. Probably there exists also a megalomaniac. Trump is an example of the bad that can be in man. Maybe that's why the Russians recruited him.

If the Russians can "recruit" someone who holds the post of the president of the United States, then it shows their power, right? Do you now agree that Russia is the most powerful country in the world?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: sonicwave on May 28, 2017, 07:39:06 AM
How Trump behaved at the NATO summit with Prime Minister of Montenegro it is a manifestation of racism. He puts himself above others. Probably there exists also a megalomaniac. Trump is an example of the bad that can be in man. Maybe that's why the Russians recruited him.

If the Russians can "recruit" someone who holds the post of the president of the United States, then it shows their power, right? Do you now agree that Russia is the most powerful country in the world?
As far as it becomes known through the media that Donald Trump is removing all the people who are around him and at least have been seen in connection with Russia.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: minizi99 on May 28, 2017, 01:00:39 PM
How Trump behaved at the NATO summit with Prime Minister of Montenegro it is a manifestation of racism. He puts himself above others. Probably there exists also a megalomaniac. Trump is an example of the bad that can be in man. Maybe that's why the Russians recruited him.

If the Russians can "recruit" someone who holds the post of the president of the United States, then it shows their power, right? Do you now agree that Russia is the most powerful country in the world?
As far as it becomes known through the media that Donald Trump is removing all the people who are around him and at least have been seen in connection with Russia.

Maybe he does it to ward off suspicions. Publicly removes people to write about it. But in fact, it secretly cooperates with Russia.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 29, 2017, 06:07:19 AM
Maybe he does it to ward off suspicions. Publicly removes people to write about it. But in fact, it secretly cooperates with Russia.

If he secretly cooperates with Russia, then the truth will come out after the FBI inquiry. Till now, his detractors have failed to provide any proof to prove his Russian connection. His Russian connection is even more vague than Hilalry's connection with the ISIS.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on May 29, 2017, 06:46:57 AM
How Trump behaved at the NATO summit with Prime Minister of Montenegro it is a manifestation of racism. He puts himself above others. Probably there exists also a megalomaniac. Trump is an example of the bad that can be in man. Maybe that's why the Russians recruited him.

If the Russians can "recruit" someone who holds the post of the president of the United States, then it shows their power, right? Do you now agree that Russia is the most powerful country in the world?

Sithara,

being american these days seems like punishment or some kind of limbo. Like, when idiot you are answering to interprets questionable behavior of one white man towards another white man as "racist". Or when he sees anybody not to his liking as "russian agent". What the fuck does "russian agents" even want, I wonder? America seems to be doing just fine, far better than Russia does or ever did.

Sithara, I wonder, how you can withstand these vegetables.

How Trump behaved at the NATO summit with Prime Minister of Montenegro it is a manifestation of racism. He puts himself above others. Probably there exists also a megalomaniac. Trump is an example of the bad that can be in man. Maybe that's why the Russians recruited him.

If the Russians can "recruit" someone who holds the post of the president of the United States, then it shows their power, right? Do you now agree that Russia is the most powerful country in the world?
As far as it becomes known through the media that Donald Trump is removing all the people who are around him and at least have been seen in connection with Russia.

Maybe he does it to ward off suspicions. Publicly removes people to write about it. But in fact, it secretly cooperates with Russia.

Could you explain to me, what kind of grand conspiracy did Putin thought out? I wonder how poor ol´ Russia bought out one of leading american billionaires and plans destruction of America through growing its economy! Please do enlighten me!


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 29, 2017, 06:55:54 AM
Could you explain to me, what kind of grand conspiracy did Putin thought out? I wonder how poor ol´ Russia bought out one of leading american billionaires and plans destruction of America through growing its economy! Please do enlighten me!

This discussion could have never happened, had the Democrats conducted their primaries in a fraud-less and honest manner. Donald Trump had zero chances against Bernie Sanders. In opinion polls, he was trailing by as much as 12 points to Sanders. Despite that, the Democrats rigged the ballot to defeat him.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: cryptogeek101 on May 29, 2017, 01:14:32 PM
They are two different persons with different political ideologies. The word "better than" is not the right choice of word to use for now because Trump is just entering office now while Obama had been in office for some years. If I may ask better in what?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: wowanstrong on May 29, 2017, 10:06:36 PM
They are two different persons with different political ideologies. The word "better than" is not the right choice of word to use for now because Trump is just entering office now while Obama had been in office for some years. If I may ask better in what?
We can only superficially characterize these two people and of course both Obama and Trump have every virtue but But at the same time they can do a lot of bad for the country, As Obama did nothing in his time.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on May 30, 2017, 02:10:52 AM
Could you explain to me, what kind of grand conspiracy did Putin thought out? I wonder how poor ol´ Russia bought out one of leading american billionaires and plans destruction of America through growing its economy! Please do enlighten me!

This discussion could have never happened, had the Democrats conducted their primaries in a fraud-less and honest manner. Donald Trump had zero chances against Bernie Sanders. In opinion polls, he was trailing by as much as 12 points to Sanders. Despite that, the Democrats rigged the ballot to defeat him.

Frankly speaking, I think democrats did nation service that way. While Mr. Sanders was infinitely better candidate than Ms. Clinton it showed two things to the public: How crooked has the party system become - hilariously republicans coming out of it less corrups. The other thing is, that people do by nature prefer men of action in time of uncertainty. The first step to betterment is through self-reflection, not point fingering.

Since you are dealing with so many half literates in this thread, Sithara. I remember, that Putin did actually come out and took a bite, that simply offered itself:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JgyU-J79weE/WFVkZrhMkPI/AAAAAAABR7M/L3dLKFQRmiMAvo175IgMoK3u9i3znrHCQCJoC/w800-h800/2016.12.15%2B-%2BPutin%2BMeme_0.JPG


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: ananas99 on May 30, 2017, 04:39:19 AM
I am more than confident that Donald Trump at some points surpasses Obama in his human qualities in terms of aspiration and stiffness in matters of world politics. We have already more than once convinced that Trump is capable of tough measures and he does everything much faster than Obama.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: shelly154 on May 30, 2017, 06:14:22 AM
No, Trump is wrong about a lot of things He is racist. Donald Trump is happy when there are terrorist attacks. Obama follows the constitution, but Trump doesn't even follow the constitution.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Tuyok on May 30, 2017, 06:23:38 AM
What's the point. People have their strong views, no one is right.
Exactly!


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: icerose on May 30, 2017, 06:25:47 AM
Trump is the worst president ever, he has done heavy damage and made a mockery of the United States. It will take many years to fix all the damage he has done, no one is going to benefit from his presidency other than him and his corrupt family.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: seo11 on May 30, 2017, 06:40:41 AM
During Obama Rule there was no War and peace was there in every country USA also, But  trump just came now and u can see the results. Uh, Love Doll (https://www.lovedollpalace.com/) has been around for over a decade. Not my cup


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Daniel91 on May 30, 2017, 02:23:17 PM
During Obama Rule there was no War and peace was there in every country USA also, But  trump just came now and u can see the results.

I can't agree with you.
During Obama rule we had wars and conflicts in Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Ukraine etc.
In my opinion, Obama did not deal well with these international crises.
In fact, all this conflicts are unresolved.
Obama was much more successful in domestic politics thanks for solving financial crisis in America and Obamacare.
He also had higher moral standard and authority (reputation) than Trump.



Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kata on May 30, 2017, 02:54:30 PM
I wish people would stop comparing Trump to Obama (I also hope that Clinton simply fades away, and stops commenting about the election or other social/political issues (https://heatst.com/politics/hillary-clinton-still-thinks-she-beat-donald-trump-in-election/)). It only stirs up Trump's base and makes them much more determined to hang on to their "hero".
 
As an essay grader (http://essay-grader.com/) in political sciences I can tell that Trump will topple himself if we let him. Look at how the proposed budget adversely affects much of his base. 
 
Once his base loses their enthusiasm for him, he is gone. His base, however, must realize on their own that the emperor has no clothes. You can't force it on them, or they will strongly defend him.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Horserg on May 30, 2017, 02:57:23 PM
A person can never be considered good or better if he is a racist. That is a no-no. He also has a foul mouth and he doesn't even know what he's saying.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: laiducnam on May 30, 2017, 04:44:08 PM
I think Obama also works pretty well. The United States voted Obama as president twice, meaning the United States was satisfied with Obama's performance in the first period.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: GreenBits on May 31, 2017, 01:50:13 AM
I wish people would stop comparing Trump to Obama (I also hope that Clinton simply fades away, and stops commenting about the election or other social/political issues (https://heatst.com/politics/hillary-clinton-still-thinks-she-beat-donald-trump-in-election/)). It only stirs up Trump's base and makes them much more determined to hang on to their "hero".
 
As an essay grader (http://essay-grader.com/) in political sciences I can tell that Trump will topple himself if we let him. Look at how the proposed budget adversely affects much of his base. 
 
Once his base loses their enthusiasm for him, he is gone. His base, however, must realize on their own that the emperor has no clothes. You can't force it on them, or they will strongly defend him.

I, am in love with your opinions. Deal with it. Please have a blog or some shit I can read, to indulge myself, and don't tell the Miss, she will beat my ass.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: HatakeKakashi on May 31, 2017, 03:39:38 AM
For me I think obama is better than trump because obama is simple person. They create more jobs to the people they create more projects so the country of USA become more popular and one of the riches country in the whole world. Obama is a goo leader . We have different opinion about this I respect if you think trump is better than obama. But for I think obama is better than trump.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: malikzfs on May 31, 2017, 03:49:46 AM
Obama is the best president I remember, bar none. No wars, no scandals, just class and smarts! Thank you for your presidency Obama.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 31, 2017, 04:04:41 AM
I think Obama also works pretty well. The United States voted Obama as president twice, meaning the United States was satisfied with Obama's performance in the first period.

He became the president just because he played the race card. Also, in 2008 the GOP put up a very weak candidate. His performance was catastrophic during the first term, as he increased the federal debt by a massive $10 trillion.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Spendulus on May 31, 2017, 11:30:44 AM
Obama is the best president I remember, bar none. No wars, no scandals, just class and smarts! Thank you for your presidency Obama.

I am curious, since Obama is history? Who is paying you to do these sock puppets?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: NJB18 on May 31, 2017, 08:09:17 PM
I guess Yes. He is a strong talker and he delivers. I've read Trump story with regards to his business empire, how he fail and succeed, he can basically use the same formula for th country.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Siddik on May 31, 2017, 08:46:18 PM
Trump is not better than obama.
Coz trump is not a politician.
Trump is a business man,
So he have not enough idea political


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on June 01, 2017, 05:57:56 AM
Trump is not better than obama.
Coz trump is not a politician.
Trump is a business man,
So he have not enough idea political

If Trump is not a politician, then so is Obama. Trump is a businessman with decades of experience. On the other hand, Obama is a pot smoker, who failed to achieve anything in his life (before becoming the POTUS). Obama's term was a disaster for the United States. Now let's see whether Trump manages to limit the damage or not.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: yakushev on June 01, 2017, 09:08:51 AM
Trump is not better than obama.
Coz trump is not a politician.
Trump is a business man,
So he have not enough idea political

If Trump is not a politician, then so is Obama. Trump is a businessman with decades of experience. On the other hand, Obama is a pot smoker, who failed to achieve anything in his life (before becoming the POTUS). Obama's term was a disaster for the United States. Now let's see whether Trump manages to limit the damage or not.

You have very well noticed this fact. No matter what kind of education a person has, the main thing is that he is able to take responsibility for the whole country. I hope that Trump will do a lot of good for the US


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kodes88 on June 01, 2017, 06:18:06 PM
Trump is not better than obama.
Coz trump is not a politician.
Trump is a business man,
So he have not enough idea political

If Trump is not a politician, then so is Obama. Trump is a businessman with decades of experience. On the other hand, Obama is a pot smoker, who failed to achieve anything in his life (before becoming the POTUS). Obama's term was a disaster for the United States. Now let's see whether Trump manages to limit the damage or not.

You have very well noticed this fact. No matter what kind of education a person has, the main thing is that he is able to take responsibility for the whole country. I hope that Trump will do a lot of good for the US

We do not need to hope such a thing, Trump has been elected president of the US, So he is obliged to do a lot of good for the US. Work as president is not a joke, a job as president is a responsibility. So the president must give good to the US without being asked by the community first. In the future we can assess who has a sensitivity that is more sensitive to the wishes of the community. Is it Obama or Trump? Because now is not the time for that.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Palmerson on June 01, 2017, 07:12:41 PM
Trump is not better than obama.
Coz trump is not a politician.
Trump is a business man,
So he have not enough idea political

If Trump is not a politician, then so is Obama. Trump is a businessman with decades of experience. On the other hand, Obama is a pot smoker, who failed to achieve anything in his life (before becoming the POTUS). Obama's term was a disaster for the United States. Now let's see whether Trump manages to limit the damage or not.

You have very well noticed this fact. No matter what kind of education a person has, the main thing is that he is able to take responsibility for the whole country. I hope that Trump will do a lot of good for the US
Then you are wrong. Education is very important for man, especially for the President the decisions of which depends the fate of the whole country. You agree to live in a country ruled by a native? He will destroy all before it was created several generations of Americans.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: rahmat92 on June 02, 2017, 06:18:40 AM
Obama is clearly better than Trump, the proof that the current economy is increasingly unstable after Trump became president


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 02, 2017, 07:55:55 AM
Obama is clearly better than Trump, the proof that the current economy is increasingly unstable after Trump became president

What is the problem with economy? The American economy is going strong. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is at all time highs. Ever since Trump was elected, the Index has increased by a massive 3,000 points (more than 15%).


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on June 02, 2017, 08:41:27 AM
Obama's regime was/is one-world government. The accomplishment of this requires removal of all private property. Nobody wants his private property taken away from him. This means that the Obama-styled people have to use loads of subtleties and trickery to push their one-world agendas forward. If they didn't, the people would see that property removal was the goal of the one-worlders like Obama, and they would oppose him.

What is the Obama result? Little good is accomplished. Oh sure. The one-worlders make it look good. It is part of the subtleties and trickery to make it look good. But it takes a lot of time and effort to make bad look good. The result is that things work slowly. Accomplishments happen slowly. After all, "You can fool all of the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

Look at Trump. He doesn't have to deceive the people to forward his goals. This means that he can get right down to business and get things done. And, that is exactly what he is doing. He is moving forward a whole lot faster than Obama did, even though his plans are a bit different than Obama's, because he doesn't have to waste time fooling the people.

But, the question was/is about which of them is better.

Obama is way better about shrewdness and subtlety.

Trump is way better about real freedom for the people.

So, the answer lies in which of the qualities and agendas you want to compare them. You can't simply compare them man-to-man. If you do, you're looking at which one is older and will die first, or which one will be older when he dies, or which one is healthier. It will be their accomplishments that determine who you like better, and Trump isn't done yet. The answer won't be seen until the end of Trump's term(s). But even then, many (most?) people will not understand the good Trump did for them.

As for movement towards freedom, Trump is moving towards freedom while Obama is moving away from it.

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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kevinn669 on June 02, 2017, 12:05:09 PM
Obama is clearly better than Trump, the proof that the current economy is increasingly unstable after Trump became president

What is the problem with economy? The American economy is going strong. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is at all time highs. Ever since Trump was elected, the Index has increased by a massive 3,000 points (more than 15%).

All these indicators are only numbers and no more. This does not mean that Trump has become worse in guiding the economy. There have always been recessions and growth. I think that Trump will still show himself on the good side


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: niknik1966 on June 02, 2017, 03:24:10 PM
In General, one funny, the other on the. Trump felt like a white person and not just. Merkel on their hind legs that Oland and the rest of Europe, and especially Eastern so he licked that Obama felt whiter than white. Trump showed as respects Europeans and that's fair. Europe does not know how to behave. How so? America will defend it from Russian? Trump carp pragmatic - pay for safety.. That's when Russia will attack you, then we will protect you. Europeans in touch.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: leopard2 on June 02, 2017, 10:19:16 PM
Obama is the best president I remember, bar none. No wars, no scandals, just class and smarts! Thank you for your presidency Obama.

I am curious, since Obama is history? Who is paying you to do these sock puppets?

mate

he was being sarcastic  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on June 02, 2017, 11:03:58 PM
These 7 subpoenas could be VERY bad news for Obama (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/219081-2017-06-02-these-7-subpoenas-could-be-very-bad-news-for-obama.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0602090301-Obama-Hands-Up.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/219081-2017-06-02-these-7-subpoenas-could-be-very-bad-news-for-obama.htm)


The House intelligence committee just issued seven subpoenas regarding the wiretapping investigation and the Russian election meddling — and the names at the top of three of them are very bad news for former President Barack Obama.

Included in the subpoenas is a "who's who" of top Obama administration officials caught up in the Trump Tower wiretapping scandal: Susan Rice, Obama's National Security Advisor; Samantha Power, Obama's ambassador to the United Nations; and John Brennan, Obama's CIA director.

These subpoenas for the National Security Agency, the FBI and the CIA seek information about requests that government officials made to unmask the identities of U.S. individuals named in classified intelligence reports.

Michael Flynn and Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's former national security adviser and Trump's personal lawyer, were also included, as well as a number of businesses.

The subpoenas were announced Wednesday as the special counsel overseeing the government's investigation into Russia's election tampering. The fact that nearly half are directed at Obama loyalists could be bad news for the former president.

It means information is being sought on the NSA's illegal wiretapping of American citizens, which included Trump and his campaign during the 2016 election.

Obama has repeatedly denied being involved in the illegal spying on Americans.

Critics remain unconvinced, however.

"The Obama administration's illegal spying may have been worse than Watergate," according to USA Today.

The NSA is legally prohibited from engaging in domestic spying. However, according to USA Today this law was "ignored wholesale under the Obama administration, and to many Republicans, it is no coincidence that intelligence leaks damaged Democrats' political opponents in the 2016 election."


Read more at https://thehornnews.com/7-subpoenas-bad-news-obama/.


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on June 03, 2017, 03:29:01 AM
In General, one funny, the other on the. Trump felt like a white person and not just. Merkel on their hind legs that Oland and the rest of Europe, and especially Eastern so he licked that Obama felt whiter than white. Trump showed as respects Europeans and that's fair. Europe does not know how to behave. How so? America will defend it from Russian? Trump carp pragmatic - pay for safety.. That's when Russia will attack you, then we will protect you. Europeans in touch.

Russia has no interest in invading any of the European nations. If they wanted that, then they could have easily done that during the peak of the cold war (1970s). Russia is interested only in maintaining business relations with the EU.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: solitare on June 23, 2017, 01:48:19 AM
Of course Trump is better.
He is a patriot that loves our country, and will do his best to repair the damage Obummer did.

He is also very in touch with what the majority of Americans want done, and he is implementing these things, despite the ridiculous insanity of the left.

Trump 2020


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: iapple571 on June 23, 2017, 03:35:04 AM
At first look i would say Obama, because an intelligent president don't enter creating terror among people.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on June 26, 2017, 08:49:38 PM
Trump Blasts Obama On Russia: "He Didn't 'Choke'...He Expected Clinton To Win... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/220509-2017-06-26-trump-blasts-obama-on-russia-he-didnt-choke-he-expected.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0626092458-scowling-trump.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/220509-2017-06-26-trump-blasts-obama-on-russia-he-didnt-choke-he-expected.htm)


Former President Obama, political royalty on the left and a media darling who even sent a "thrill up the leg" of Chris Matthews, has drawn a rather surprising amount of public criticism of late over his handling of Russia's meddling in the 2016 election.  Everyone from Congressional democrats to CNN is suddenly curious why Obama didn't do more?

Well, apparently Trump has decided to clear things up via Twitter:

"The reason that President Obama did NOTHING about Russia after being notified by the CIA of meddling is that he expected Clinton would win and did not want to "rock the boat." He didn't "choke," he colluded or obstructed, and it did the Dems and Crooked Hillary no good."

"The real story is that President Obama did NOTHING after being informed in August about Russian meddling. With 4 months looking at Russia under a magnifying glass, they have zero "tapes" of T people colluding. There is no collusion & no obstruction. I should be given apology!"


Read more at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-26/trump-blasts-obama-russia-he-didnt-chokehe-expected-clinton-win-so-he-colluded-or-ob.


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on June 26, 2017, 09:34:45 PM
Phil Donahue's Insane New Theory Why Trump Became President (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/220519-2017-06-26-phil-donahues-insane-new-theory-why-trump-became-president.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0626102802-Donohue-CNN.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/220519-2017-06-26-phil-donahues-insane-new-theory-why-trump-became-president.htm)


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Phil Donahue tells CNN why he thinks Donald Trump is the president, and it has to do with the elite media and pretty white girls. Media analyst Mark Dice has the story.


Phil Donahue’s Insane New Theory Why Trump Became President
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcujVF9a9vk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcujVF9a9vk)


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Kriptex on June 26, 2017, 11:28:48 PM
Obama was bad but Donald Trump is much worse than Obama. Because he's trying to take decissions upon his own will. No matter what the law says.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on June 27, 2017, 12:24:03 AM
Obama was bad but Donald Trump is much worse than Obama. Because he's trying to take decissions upon his own will. No matter what the law says.

Your logic is very strange. Trump is very bad because he is taking independent decisions without anyone's influence? I would rate that as one of his plus points. Everyone knows that Obama was a puppet, who got elected just because of his race.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Kulang on July 30, 2017, 04:15:41 PM
Obama was bad but Donald Trump is much worse than Obama. Because he's trying to take decissions upon his own will. No matter what the law says.

Your logic is very strange. Trump is very bad because he is taking independent decisions without anyone's influence? I would rate that as one of his plus points. Everyone knows that Obama was a puppet, who got elected just because of his race.
I think, Obama is better than Trump because Obama really listens well to his people. And I beg to disagree with you that his independent decision making is Trump's plus point over Obama because a president should study well all of his decisions and consult his people before implementing it because it might affect not just him but the whole state. And out of all the decision that Trump has made so far, I am very much displeased with his decision of not accepting transgender people in the military. Some transgender people can do a lot more things than a straight people can so why stop them from entering the military.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: siddu1 on July 31, 2017, 03:35:41 AM
No, coz trumps don't have any idea about politics.
trump is a businessman.
so I think
Obama is better then trump.
thanks


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on July 31, 2017, 04:19:31 AM
Obama was bad but Donald Trump is much worse than Obama. Because he's trying to take decissions upon his own will. No matter what the law says.

Your logic is very strange. Trump is very bad because he is taking independent decisions without anyone's influence? I would rate that as one of his plus points. Everyone knows that Obama was a puppet, who got elected just because of his race.
I think, Obama is better than Trump because Obama really listens well to his people. And I beg to disagree with you that his independent decision making is Trump's plus point over Obama because a president should study well all of his decisions and consult his people before implementing it because it might affect not just him but the whole state. And out of all the decision that Trump has made so far, I am very much displeased with his decision of not accepting transgender people in the military. Some transgender people can do a lot more things than a straight people can so why stop them from entering the military.

Obama was a puppet and he was incapable of taking independent decisions. He was just following whatever Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden told him to do. Trump is different in that aspect. He listens to everyone, but takes decision on his own.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Bagaji on August 03, 2017, 05:30:59 AM
I believe Obama is far better as compared to Donald Trump. Trump has so far made a lot of promises without implementing one and most of his policy may not see the light of the day. Trump promise American people that he will repeal and replace Obama Care but till today the bill is yet to see the light of the day because the Congress men and women see that the bill has no promising future on the ordinary Americans. Sanctions against Muslims country on the ground of terrorism and building of wall at the Mexico boarders are all most of his bad policies.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: ngocbkcse on August 03, 2017, 08:15:19 AM
I like Trump and think Trump is better than Obama. I don't like Obama and I disagree with him on a lot of issues, but I respect him for his grasp of issues and willingness to communicate.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: piash.tanjin on August 03, 2017, 11:25:05 AM
Yea better maybe better for him or his country.If we can compare cow with goat then some will go for cow and some will go for goat actually it depends on one demand but see we made the comparison but why we have done this idk think by your self actually i wana say those kind of comparison does not make any sense


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Lieldoryn on August 03, 2017, 11:29:45 AM
I like Trump and think Trump is better than Obama. I don't like Obama and I disagree with him on a lot of issues, but I respect him for his grasp of issues and willingness to communicate.
Trump is by far more stupid than Obama. It is much worse than Obama, but he is in more severe conditions. Republicans understand that Trump's an idiot, and so they lead him on a short leash. Besides, Republicans are more determined than the Democrats. Trump is a stupid a lame duck.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Spendulus on August 03, 2017, 12:20:23 PM
I like Trump and think Trump is better than Obama. I don't like Obama and I disagree with him on a lot of issues, but I respect him for his grasp of issues and willingness to communicate.
Trump is by far more stupid than Obama. It is much worse than Obama, but he is in more severe conditions. Republicans understand that Trump's an idiot, and so they lead him on a short leash. Besides, Republicans are more determined than the Democrats. Trump is a stupid a lame duck.

Actually, Obama was estimated to have an IQ in the mid 120s. Trump is way, way up there on intelligence, various reports are 156 or low 160s (genius level).

Don't be fooled when Trump talks in certain ways. "Talks dumb."


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Beerwizzard on August 03, 2017, 12:27:14 PM
Obama was bad but Donald Trump is much worse than Obama. Because he's trying to take decissions upon his own will. No matter what the law says.

Your logic is very strange. Trump is very bad because he is taking independent decisions without anyone's influence? I would rate that as one of his plus points. Everyone knows that Obama was a puppet, who got elected just because of his race.
I think, Obama is better than Trump because Obama really listens well to his people. And I beg to disagree with you that his independent decision making is Trump's plus point over Obama because a president should study well all of his decisions and consult his people before implementing it because it might affect not just him but the whole state. And out of all the decision that Trump has made so far, I am very much displeased with his decision of not accepting transgender people in the military. Some transgender people can do a lot more things than a straight people can so why stop them from entering the military.
Listen to whom? Lgbt? Immigrants (mostly illegal)? Other minorities? The government have to make desigions and not olways someone else should suppurt it. Thats how it works. Otherwise we could only make a rogram based on blockchain where everyone could vote for different actions (with Obama's electorate there would be only buttons like "feed the poor", "take money from rich", etc.). Obama was the most socialistic presient drowen by the worst part of the community.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: pkdas on August 03, 2017, 02:43:55 PM
I like obama because of his simpleness and personality..


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: IVNAY ALBIN FAHAD 150 on August 03, 2017, 06:06:33 PM
I think who is the bast its impossible to select because obama was president about 8 years and trump is a new president how to compare those person. if trump spend 8 years than we compare who is the best one.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: GreenBits on August 03, 2017, 07:49:11 PM
I like Trump and think Trump is better than Obama. I don't like Obama and I disagree with him on a lot of issues, but I respect him for his grasp of issues and willingness to communicate.
Trump is by far more stupid than Obama. It is much worse than Obama, but he is in more severe conditions. Republicans understand that Trump's an idiot, and so they lead him on a short leash. Besides, Republicans are more determined than the Democrats. Trump is a stupid a lame duck.

Actually, Obama was estimated to have an IQ in the mid 120s. Trump is way, way up there on intelligence, various reports are 156 or low 160s (genius level).

Don't be fooled when Trump talks in certain ways. "Talks dumb."

Come on man, I know you are a fan of Trump, but Trump @ 156 IQ?

 :-\ :) ;D :D ;) :-X


Trump on Media:
"Despite the constant negative press covfefe.”

"The #AmazonWashingtonPost, sometimes referred to as the guardian of Amazon not paying internet taxes (which they should) is FAKE NEWS!"

Trump on Technology:
“At some point in the future, we’re going to look back and say how did we do it without space?”

“This is infinity here, it could be infinity. We don’t really don’t know. But it could be. It has to be something — but it could be infinity, right?”

"You know cyber is becoming so big today. lt's becoming something that a number of years ago, a short number of years ago wasn't even a word. Now the cyber is so big."

Trump, well, being Trump (my personal faves):

“Robert Pattinson should not take back Kristen Stewart. She cheated on him like a dog & will do it again – just watch. He can do much better!” (Dafuq??  ??? )

“An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud”

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.”

“One of they key problems today is that politics is such a disgrace. Good people don’t go into government.” ;)

“It’s freezing and snowing in New York – we need global warming!”

“I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”

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“My IQ is one of the highest — and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure; it’s not your fault.”

Oh, nevermind dude, Trump said it. My bad.

And before you respond, yes, liberal media, Hillary, Soros, and deep state. in that order.




Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on August 04, 2017, 02:15:03 AM
I think who is the bast its impossible to select because obama was president about 8 years and trump is a new president how to compare those person. if trump spend 8 years than we compare who is the best one.

Even now, we can make a comparison between their policies. But right now we can't compare the success rate and accomplishment. For that I don't think that we may need to wait 8 more years. 2-3 years may be enough to give a clear picture.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: JoeH on August 04, 2017, 03:53:49 AM
No

International relations are at a lower point than they were with Obama. We were super active with Mexico, Canada, Asia, and even Russia compared to now. Mind you, Russia may of ruined those relationships but still overall international relations are down.

I can't stand how much of the finance regulations have been repealed.

The constant fight to repeal ACA has clogged congress horribly.

Obama > Trump


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sadlife on August 04, 2017, 05:09:46 AM
He may be an asshole in the outside and his attitude sucks unlike obama he didn't bomb invade countries, bomb innocent people, bomb hospitals killed countless of lives including women and children. In fact when trump was seated as president and in power of the united states the bombings has stoppes tge conflict in the middle east countries has calmed and since then when trump has been president the US government has minimized their interference in some countries internal affairs like the country Philippines that has issued to break the ties with the US government if they wont stop interfering. Of course it was obama's time.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: smurfik32 on August 08, 2017, 12:29:50 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
For whom how. To whom that Obama was liked, and to whom that present president of the USA. I repose only in one, that good for all will not be. To me as a man independent in this question anymore likes Trump.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Moloch on August 08, 2017, 04:38:57 PM
He may be an asshole in the outside and his attitude sucks unlike obama he didn't bomb invade countries, bomb innocent people, bomb hospitals killed countless of lives including women and children. In fact when trump was seated as president and in power of the united states the bombings has stoppes tge conflict in the middle east countries has calmed and since then when trump has been president the US government has minimized their interference in some countries internal affairs like the country Philippines that has issued to break the ties with the US government if they wont stop interfering. Of course it was obama's time.

It amazes me what people claim without any evidence to back it up

Bombings have increased 50% with Trump over Obama... that's the facts... you claim they went down, where is your evidence?
U.S.-led coalition increases airstrikes by 50% against Islamic State (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/05/23/us-led-coalition-increases-airstrikes-islamic-state/102063168/)

Trump increased the military budget by $50,000,000,000 (10%)

Trump sold $500,000,000,000 worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia (including illegal cluster bombs)

The first attack Trump did as Commander in Chief killed an innocent 8-year old AMERICAN girl!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/yemen-strike-eight-year-old-american-girl-killed-al-awlaki (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/yemen-strike-eight-year-old-american-girl-killed-al-awlaki)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: squeaktartlet on August 08, 2017, 06:46:39 PM
No, it's simple. Even if you want to be a douche president then prove to be smart and not dumb like it's happening right now.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: pisston on August 08, 2017, 07:34:51 PM
It seems to me that the topic of discussion between US President Obama and the tramp is very relevant for today. These are two different people, but at the same time everyone has brought some benefits to his country. In fact, even the crazy nature of donald tramp, will also benefit the United States and today we see results. As one scientist said, if you start very loudly and do not speak well, then you are doing the right thing.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: eshtonshrug on August 08, 2017, 08:30:32 PM
No way, Trump is doing it all wrong.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on August 09, 2017, 05:51:40 AM
It seems to me that the topic of discussion between US President Obama and the tramp is very relevant for today. These are two different people, but at the same time everyone has brought some benefits to his country. In fact, even the crazy nature of donald tramp, will also benefit the United States and today we see results. As one scientist said, if you start very loudly and do not speak well, then you are doing the right thing.

What benefit did Barack Hossein Obama brought to the United States? His major contribution was increasing the federal debt by $10 trillion. The recession happened under his rule. His foreign policy was a complete failure. I can't think of a single positive from his rule.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: leonair on August 09, 2017, 06:56:02 AM
Trump is better than Obama and yes it is, in a way that he treats people more badly and he speaks for himself and do what he wants he is better than Obama in that way. I hope the citizens of America withstand his reign until his last day.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: GreenBits on August 10, 2017, 04:56:35 PM
It seems to me that the topic of discussion between US President Obama and the tramp is very relevant for today. These are two different people, but at the same time everyone has brought some benefits to his country. In fact, even the crazy nature of donald tramp, will also benefit the United States and today we see results. As one scientist said, if you start very loudly and do not speak well, then you are doing the right thing.

What benefit did Barack Hossein Obama brought to the United States? His major contribution was increasing the federal debt by $10 trillion. The recession happened under his rule. His foreign policy was a complete failure. I can't think of a single positive from his rule.
1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014 and mandates a suite of experimental measures to cut health care cost growth, the number one cause of America’s long-term fiscal problems.

2. Passed the Stimulus: Signed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to spur economic growth amid greatest recession since the Great Depression. Weeks after stimulus went into effect, unemployment claims began to subside. Twelve months later, the private sector began producing more jobs than it was losing, and it has continued to do so for twenty-three straight months, creating a total of nearly 3.7 million new private-sector jobs.

3. Passed Wall Street Reform: Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession. The new law tightens capital requirements on large banks and other financial institutions, requires derivatives to be sold on clearinghouses and exchanges, mandates that large banks provide “living wills” to avoid chaotic bankruptcies, limits their ability to trade with customers’ money for their own profit, and creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (now headed by Richard Cordray) to crack down on abusive lending products and companies.

4. Ended the War in Iraq: Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011.

5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan: From a peak of 101,000 troops in June 2011, U.S. forces are now down to 91,000, with 23,000 slated to leave by the end of summer 2012. According to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the combat mission there will be over by next year.

6. Eliminated Osama bin laden: In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered.

7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry: In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades. The government expects to lose $16 billion of its investment, less if the price of the GM stock it still owns increases.

8. Recapitalized Banks: In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.

9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”: Ended 1990s-era restriction and formalized new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for the first time.

10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi: In March 2011, joined a coalition of European and Arab governments in military action, including air power and naval blockade, against Gaddafi regime to defend Libyan civilians and support rebel troops. Gaddafi’s forty-two-year rule ended when the dictator was overthrown and killed by rebels on October 20, 2011. No American lives were lost.

11. Told Mubarak to Go: On February 1, 2011, publicly called on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to accept reform or step down, thus weakening the dictator’s position and putting America on the right side of the Arab Spring. Mubarak ended thirty-year rule when overthrown on February 11.

12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies: Two days after taking office, nullified Bush-era rulings that had allowed detainees in U.S. custody to undergo certain “enhanced” interrogation techniques considered inhumane under the Geneva Conventions. Also released the secret Bush legal rulings supporting the use of these techniques.

there is so much more, bro. its funny because when you list Trumps accomplishments, they are literally the antithesis of Obama's; attempting to repeal healthcare (also funny people like OCare now they they actually know what it is, instead of listening to foolish talking points), repealing Dodd Frank, rolling back advances in deprivatizing prison, repealing dont ask dont tell.


Sid, its time to ask. You don't live here, fortunately. Why are you in favor of populist policies, as you are not American? You are one of the most informed non citizens about American politics on this forum. So I never understood, because I assume you are brown, why you support policy that would diminish you. trump would barely let you in the States, he would see your people suffer if your nation was struck with crisis. Nor would he send aid. If your cultural group was attacked, he wouldnt even tweet about it like both terror attacka on mosques that he has failed to mention (has never mentioned any terror attacks except those committed by minorities). Trump could give a flying fuck if you breathe. You arent American. America first!

Why do you support being second?

As much as yall hate the fact that Big O had two terms, he gave a fuck about you. He gave a fuck about you so much he prioritized the whole. No fealty to us Blacks, he tried to advance the cause for us all, humans. Its a talking point that he "didnt help the Blacks'', as a Black man I have no problem with this. Unlike my supremacist counterparts, having eaten shit makes me empathetic to those that suffer. Dont help me. Help us.
Because I dont exist in a vacuum. I am part of a society that must thrive as a whole in order to function, and progress.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: valiantintel on August 10, 2017, 06:20:49 PM
It's somehow early to let you know.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kodes88 on August 10, 2017, 06:35:40 PM
I have not seen significant changes happen to the United States after Trump served as president in place of Obama. I also have not seen anything from Trump that shows that he is better than Obama. So I do not think Trump is  better than Obama.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: mvidetto on August 16, 2017, 02:34:39 PM
No. Obama is better. Nuclear deal with Iran and improving relations with Cuba was good moves from him even thow he had his own flaws like not handling crisis in Ukraine and a poor domestic health policy. Still better than Trump with his hate speech and severing relations with almost everyone from allies to enemies.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: AlexUnder on August 16, 2017, 03:05:14 PM
Obama better than Trump!


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Prem.Soorajpaul on August 16, 2017, 03:07:28 PM
Obama better than Trump!

Agreed. Obama was much better than this racist buffoon. Have you heard his comments after the Charlottesville riots? He was siding with the neo-Nazis and defending the radicals who marched chanting "white lives matter".


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: microlovr on August 16, 2017, 10:08:15 PM
.....at what? Playing Sh*t Head?  ;D


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BCEmporium on August 16, 2017, 10:51:02 PM
They are way different...
Obama was more of a common politician, that kind that people is used to and like to listen even when there comes nothing but soft lies.
Trump isn't anything of a politician, he speaks out his mind regardless and even when he is right he will be pointing unpleasant truths nobody wants to listen. Or just go on big fat lies... depends on the subject.
There's no exact yes or no or black or white answer to that question at this moment. Ask it again after Trump leaves the White House as for most of it only time will tell...


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Nilima-Temp on August 17, 2017, 04:44:51 AM
no, I do not think Trump is a Human.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: September11Myth on September 11, 2017, 02:34:49 PM
You mean, as an actor? As a puppet? Or are you suggesting that US presidents are like in Hollywood movies and they decide things...


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Aladdin-Sane-83 on September 11, 2017, 02:45:46 PM
Donald is a muppet, filled with anger and hate.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Hasbro27 on September 11, 2017, 02:48:55 PM
I think it's better for President Obama to trump, the least I like about trump is his style of speech, and also it seems Trump is very hateful to Muslims, I think it is not good because not all Muslims are terrorists.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Matteo.b on November 07, 2017, 12:23:24 PM
I don't think so if trump better than Obama because Obama is good president in their country but trump maybe I don't know now its to early to let you know


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Ethereum Token on November 09, 2017, 09:48:36 PM
YES


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: ttbd on November 10, 2017, 01:10:37 AM
He Gets Things done Trump is a wake up call for america where politicians have ruled not ordinary people. He is making america great again. He is actually doing something in response to North Korea, China, and Russia. He is working on the debt which Obama tripled. We need many more presidents like him.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: trickee on November 10, 2017, 01:43:35 AM
Yes Or No
And Why
obama is much better.because Trump hate filipino that's what i know.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on November 10, 2017, 01:48:37 AM
He Gets Things done Trump is a wake up call for america where politicians have ruled not ordinary people. He is making america great again. He is actually doing something in response to North Korea, China, and Russia. He is working on the debt which Obama tripled. We need many more presidents like him.

There are only two things, which I like about him. First, he is not as war crazy as Hillary Clinton and he has a backbone. For sure he made some provocations on the DPRK issue, but till now he has refrained from any physical action. And secondly, he was the first president in the last many decades to actually reduce the level of federal debt.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: atjiat on November 10, 2017, 04:55:55 AM
He Gets Things done Trump is a wake up call for america where politicians have ruled not ordinary people. He is making america great again. He is actually doing something in response to North Korea, China, and Russia. He is working on the debt which Obama tripled. We need many more presidents like him.

There are only two things, which I like about him. First, he is not as war crazy as Hillary Clinton and he has a backbone. For sure he made some provocations on the DPRK issue, but till now he has refrained from any physical action. And secondly, he was the first president in the last many decades to actually reduce the level of federal debt.
It seems to me that over the past period of time, there are still no positive moments in the country's administration in the morning. It is only accompanied by scandals and nothing more.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: jonnywicked on November 10, 2017, 09:01:26 AM
frankly speaking, everyone is better than obama ::)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Raul Rovira on November 10, 2017, 09:02:36 AM
obama is much better.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Flip Flop on November 10, 2017, 09:12:34 AM
Of course, Trump's seven-month record is far better than Obama's first seven months in office, when the economy lost 3.6 million jobs. That's because Obama was sworn in during the worst downturn since the Great Depression.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Zandar on November 10, 2017, 09:32:58 AM
What people don't realise is that Obama has been the worst president of the US in history. All you need to do is look at the money, because at the end of the day only money speaks. Obama tripled the US debt, meaning he tripled the debt of all the presidents before him combined single handedly, but somehow the people and media keep silent about this fact. They were running fulltime demonizing Trump but remain silent and ignorant of real facts. All got tricked with the 'Yes we can' speeches, but got absolutely nothing in return. Nobody could have done worse then Obama, they might as well had put on a donkey for president 8 years long. The donkey probably would have done better. But people have turned into idiots that gobble up nice speeches like Obama can give, even if it is about absolutely nothing for hours, they will still listen to every word and be glued to it. So all they need is a person that can give nice speeches like 'yes we can' and people will chant and repeat them like four-year-olds.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: aerodynamic1 on November 10, 2017, 09:42:46 AM
Both of them not good and not bad. They are just dolls in the hands of illuminati  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: sunnex100 on November 10, 2017, 11:04:35 AM
No! Trump is in no way better than Obama. As a matter of fact, Trump is not even in Obama's league. Obama is highly charismatic leader that helped unite Americans irrespective of the fact that he is black. Trump has rather divided Americans. Under Obama, the US have a strong and firm grip of global leadership and world affairs but Trump has lost it. Obama is far more intellectual positioned as compared with Trump.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Masha Sha on November 10, 2017, 11:05:54 AM
Trump is with the funding fathers...


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: lamadu3 on November 10, 2017, 11:11:34 AM
What a difference Trump or Obama, in America still managed by other people who are in the shadows. Presidente it's just "talking head", which does not solve anything.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Getcoinsite on November 10, 2017, 11:32:04 AM
Obama was a puppet in the hands of establishment politicians from the Democrat party, such as Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump is independent. He is capable of taking his own independent decisions.
your an obvious trump supporter thats why its easy for you to say such word.beinh president of united states must have a balls..and i dont believe that obama is that easy to be a puppet.he did well in US as president.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BitcoinNational on November 10, 2017, 12:04:30 PM
You cannot find more opposite than Trump and Obama.
I would say, have a look on the twitter of Trump and you'll have your answer :D
You cannot trust a guy like him.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: leanhtuan on November 10, 2017, 12:27:30 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
YES
I think the donald trump is better, because he is a businessman, a politician, he has a completely different view from the previous president.
Donal trump will make breakthroughs for the US and other countries in the world


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Jarx on November 10, 2017, 12:32:29 PM
I will not undertake to condemn them as individuals but Trump as a businessman an entrepreneur can use many of his skills and connections to strengthen the country economically. is not sure about the moral aspect..


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: readygoaw on November 10, 2017, 01:26:18 PM
Most people think that Obama was the better president.At least he did not have any ideas about building a wall between Mexico and the USA.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: moshiul13 on November 10, 2017, 01:41:30 PM
No, Obama is better than Trump.Because Obama thinks for all but Trump thinks for some particular religion and country.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: djimbim0 on November 10, 2017, 01:49:28 PM
Obama has been in power for many years and we knew him well. Trump recently led the country. I think it's too early to draw conclusions. Trump will show himself on the good side


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: androidpobeditel on November 10, 2017, 04:53:52 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
  A glance from Russia.
Nothing has changed for us. All the same. As if there were no elections in the US and the president did not change. The policy is the same.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: z38630610 on November 10, 2017, 10:20:04 PM
Yes Or No
And Why

Of course not. Trump is fascist man who is against with people who don't think like him. But Obama is not like him. He was so democratic then Trump. Also Obama was more entertaining then Trump. Obama was also smiling more persuasive then Trump.  :)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: SamPo on November 11, 2017, 02:04:40 AM
What's the point. People have their strong views, no one is right. Not only is no one is right, people don't care. They don't care if they are right or wrong so long as their group wins the argument. They can have death and destruction, but that does not matter as long as they have an excuse that makes them feel as if they won.


I really don't know who's better,  Obama or Trumph but as long as they doing their job and with concern on their citizens and deboted to serv the country no matter what. Amd with the spirit and passion to do what is right for the country and for the people of the country.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: moanamakeway on November 11, 2017, 05:15:36 AM
Yes Trump is better than Obama because he has better platforms when it comes to shutting down the whole country. Not taking reffugees because terrorist might sneek in their borders. Good job Trump. He secluded the cluntry from fighting war with another country.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Kryptonian01 on November 11, 2017, 05:18:14 AM
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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kh bhuiyan on November 11, 2017, 06:11:53 AM
Though this is a very diplomatic question, for me they are indifference! Trump is a business tycoon whereas Obama is a mass social worker.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: congresowoman on November 11, 2017, 07:14:58 AM
Yes Or No
And Why
Obama is way better than Trump. Obama have pushed bills that promotes humanity and he has established good relations with neighborung nations and have established alliances to nations as well. This is a kind of leader that rhe world needs.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Crystal Method on November 11, 2017, 11:14:21 AM
No way, Obama was better! He was even more attractive as a person and as a president. And Trump may be good as a businessman but not as a president!


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Moana on November 11, 2017, 11:43:59 AM
Better in WHAT? Of course we are no speaking about ruling the United States, since unlike in movies this is not what is done by the Presidents of the United States.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: September11Myth on November 13, 2017, 08:40:13 PM
You mean as an actor? No, Obama was one of the best actors impersonating the role of the President of the United States.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: colemankaan on November 13, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
I dont think any American can be that free to make his own decisions but ofcourse Trump is nowhere near Obama as a person.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Yalovtsev on November 13, 2017, 09:17:06 PM
Trump is by far the best Obama,who had just shouted and address in Russia,and what Americans are cool and Russia is not honest and so, well, I honestly don't much trust them,despite the fact that trump is in power,there are many people that are in the Shade control America,and do not like Russia


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: joebrook on November 13, 2017, 11:29:05 PM
I dont think any American can be that free to make his own decisions but ofcourse Trump is nowhere near Obama as a person.
Even though Trump is generally categorised as a bad person, it's no secret that although his presidency is rigged with controversies he is doing great things for the country including creating jobs and making sure that Americans are happy now.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on November 14, 2017, 12:33:02 AM
I dont think any American can be that free to make his own decisions but ofcourse Trump is nowhere near Obama as a person.

Did you ask government if you had to wear socks today, and which pair? How in the world unfree do you want to be?

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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: yoseph on November 14, 2017, 02:31:50 AM
You mean as an actor? No, Obama was one of the best actors impersonating the role of the President of the United States.
He was the best orator that the US have had in a very long time but he was a very poor president and a liar and am still shocked that he always and still being applauded by the Democrats who are out of sorts now.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: cryptoblue on November 14, 2017, 03:13:37 AM
No, I don't think so. Obama was better. Trump is mentally unstable person.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Tramle091296 on November 14, 2017, 03:18:59 AM
I dont Think the Their Both Worth it. We dont know who`s better all of our president or king/ cause all of the people has a different point of view some their good some their bad so we cant tell who`s better... we can say the president is good when the country or continent out perfect :)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on November 14, 2017, 04:56:34 AM
No, I don't think so. Obama was better. Trump is mentally unstable person.

Nope. Trump is an independent minded person, who doesn't want to be controlled by anyone. On the other hand, Obama was just a puppet and most of the polices were being decided by the triad of Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. Obama became the president just because of his skin color. He had no other qualifications to become the POTUS.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: SamboNZ on November 14, 2017, 04:58:54 AM
What's the point. People have their strong views, no one is right. Not only is no one is right, people don't care. They don't care if they are right or wrong so long as their group wins the argument. They can have death and destruction, but that does not matter as long as they have an excuse that makes them feel as if they won.

good point. maybe we only need open-mindedness and respect to the views of each and every individual, either its against us or agree with us.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Shtamm_oval on November 14, 2017, 05:10:35 AM
To me, as a person who does not live in the US, it does not matter who is better than the current president of this country or the former. The main thing is to bring benefits to your country, the rest is not important.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: FriddickPrime on November 14, 2017, 07:47:50 AM
he is BIG LEAGUE better than Obama

has already accomplished more than Obama in his first 300 days

The left does not have any legitimate criticism of Trump all they do is cry racism where non exist


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: nguyenngocson on November 14, 2017, 08:06:43 AM
I think Obama was better than Trump because Trump is now being racist and being a bad taste in our community.
I think he is different from all previous presidents, he will create the miracle of the country.
That's why I like donald trump


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: AgonyPaid on November 14, 2017, 08:37:03 AM
Still too little time has passed to compare them. For someone, Trump is better than Obama, but for someone the opposite. Personally I do not care who of them is better.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: oseikuf44 on November 14, 2017, 11:32:47 AM
Big No. In terms of international diplomacy Obama conducted himself well than Trump. Also,foreign policies of Obama is far world friendly than Trump. For example Immigration rules.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kodes88 on November 14, 2017, 02:43:20 PM
Still too little time has passed to compare them. For someone, Trump is better than Obama, but for someone the opposite. Personally I do not care who of them is better.

I do not think Trump is better than Obama. Although the slogan from Trump is "Make America Great Again" but I do not feel the USA is now greater than USA Obama. So I do not think Trump is better than Obama. At least not for now.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: JessIs8 on November 14, 2017, 04:03:15 PM
No, and America needs to get their s together if they want to remain as the 'world police'. The arrogance of the government will lead to the country's downfall.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: pinkpanther03 on November 14, 2017, 04:43:34 PM
Yes Or No
And Why

I don't know what your trying to intend on this topic brother. every individuals had their own unique capabilities and skills. Therefore, we cannot compare the achievements of Obama to Trump because their not the same characteristics and style in leading their subordinates to the country they lead which is U.S :)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: arnobs007 on November 14, 2017, 04:57:11 PM
Obama is much better than than Trump. After winning election, Trump changed the total meaning of politics. And the behavior of Trump is also disgusting.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Bronzeking on November 14, 2017, 05:15:51 PM
For me its Yes because obama do nothing but the good part of obama is he is the first black american president ang help homeless people but i still think trump is better than obama because trump lessen the crime in USA


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: jdeanne92 on November 15, 2017, 09:50:27 AM
that cant be answered right now since trump did not finished his term yet.  maybe some people can site some differences maybe some advantage and disadvantages..


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: miki418 on November 15, 2017, 10:52:22 AM
I vote for Obama. The best american president ever


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: bitcoinking11 on November 15, 2017, 11:22:04 AM
No, Trump has done nothing so far. He has got time to deliver, but till now his performance is climate change summit fiasco.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: ronandol198 on November 15, 2017, 01:25:15 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
No
 I like obama more because he is very  sociable. I also like trump but he is too racist and has unreasonable policies, I still prefer obama  


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: pazzanegro on November 15, 2017, 02:19:25 PM
Yes or no depends on for whom he's better. For regular citizens - don't think so. Trump is a business man, his target - profit, even for US. Obama was more thinking for usual people. Trump is more aggressive.. His background speaks about him. As for me Obama is better.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: PIR on November 15, 2017, 02:22:36 PM
Which is better? well, I don't think I have the right to judge who's better or not because I know both have different views over a thing, different belief and style, strength and even weaknesses in governing and somehow both of the had a desire in their heart to serve their countrymen with the best of their ability, it just that some people do not accept it.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Aristus on November 15, 2017, 03:07:30 PM
I think yeah!
Trump is better than Obama. Because trump shows more concern to America. He wants to protect it against Muslims.
And I like what he said that "America is only for the American people" if I'm not mistaken.
A word of a concern leader to his country.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: loaddebitcard on November 15, 2017, 03:29:18 PM
Obama is actually smarter, but Trump is like a breeze with his politics. Old ways of politics are not working anymore, so Trump has a chance to prove that his point of view on the world can be good.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: wideshut on November 15, 2017, 03:51:50 PM
Obama is better. People love him more.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Eclub on November 15, 2017, 04:26:17 PM
Reputation of the usa is going down hard because of trump. He is a child.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Isaak Bitcoin on November 18, 2017, 05:35:55 PM
Obama was better than Trump. He was an honest and decent man.
But Trump's wife is certainly more beautiful.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: hero1111 on November 18, 2017, 05:53:27 PM
I think Trum is not better thank Obama  because Trum is crazy person and i dont trust him , Obama was good man and so many people belived him and he listenes people'problems and he tried to found solutions but Trum thinks only money and he think ABD is  his own company , it is not good.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: mountrock on November 18, 2017, 07:13:37 PM
I am not American, but I know, TRUMP is 1 trillion times better than Obama. obama is the looser of our time, just like stalin, mao and hitler


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: ajaymukund on December 20, 2017, 10:40:39 AM

In general, until now, Trump is doing very well as president and he is the wealthy president, which will help the US economy grow in the future. But I like Obama more, like that. The way he inspires many students, including me when he lectures. Not so, he also has a kind heart and is very fond of children, willing to bypass the barrier to just make children laugh. .


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: im posible on December 20, 2017, 10:59:58 AM
Obama is much better than Trump. Obama understands tolerance, obama puts peace ahead, Obama is wiser. Sorry, but I do not think trump has the authority at all as a leader.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: bhabygrim on December 20, 2017, 11:14:13 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

It could be possible for Trump to be better than Obama. There are too many aspects that can be compared between the two of them. I am very sure that there are some aspects as to where Obama is better than Trump. It is really not that clear at all. So, we just hope for the best.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: djangocoin on December 23, 2017, 12:14:31 PM
They both have their pros and their cons, but i can say one thing: Trump is certainly more entertaining :D


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: btsjungkook on December 23, 2017, 01:31:53 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
For me is no because Obama is better than trump. Because Mr. Obama is respected by people not like trump because many do not like her.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: LoudA__ on December 23, 2017, 01:38:31 PM
I am not American, but I know, TRUMP is 1 trillion times better than Obama. obama is the looser of our time, just like stalin, mao and hitler

You don't need to compare Obama to those individuals because we all know that those losers are more of a loser than Obama. Obama tried his best to be the President the people wanted, he also tried to rule and govern America, but I think we can say that that is not enough. Trump may be better than Obama, but atleast we know that a better President will be taking over and rule the country at his best, just like Obama.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Theo222 on December 23, 2017, 02:22:48 PM
Yes Or No
And Why
For me its a big no, trump is very bad for me. People dont love trump but obama is the opposite. Majority of the people in united state of america loves obama and fully respected .


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Yalovtsev on December 23, 2017, 02:33:14 PM
of course trump,Obama was a negative policy,and in General only to give Russia and to escalate the unstable situation in the world and foment war,everything went exactly to this))


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 23, 2017, 02:43:03 PM
of course trump,Obama was a negative policy,and in General only to give Russia and to escalate the unstable situation in the world and foment war,everything went exactly to this))

Obama's foreign policy was a disaster. He just became a puppet of the GCC in the middle-east, and he indirectly helped the ISIS in its battle against the secular Syrian government. Under his command, the Taliban reestablished itself in Afghanistan. And he refused to help the US allies, when China bullied them in the South China Sea region. 


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: skladnikov on December 23, 2017, 02:48:36 PM
I am not American, but I know, TRUMP is 1 trillion times better than Obama. obama is the looser of our time, just like stalin, mao and hitler
YEah Trump dont start wars! dont kill other people! oBama make so much bad things! please  stop violence!


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Mokhlesur on December 24, 2017, 07:36:25 PM
Ofcourse obama better then trump.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: sunnex100 on December 24, 2017, 08:22:31 PM
Obama is way out of Trump's league. Mr Trump came in and messed up the whole room. Obama is far better than Trump because he built America on the dreams of its founding fathers. Trump still believes that America is a reality TV and he is screwing everything up. His handling of the Russian probe, Climate change, Jerusalem status, immigration and other sundry matters shows that what he lacks in leadership, he makes up with tweets.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: MalaViolina on December 24, 2017, 10:32:14 PM
No. Obama is better than Trump for many reason. Obama is not great,but is better than Trump. On the first Obama is represented all black people, and he had a responsibility for them. And that is why he had to be careful. Opposite of that,Trump represented him self personally. Thaht fact confirms that he himself financed his campaign for president of USA. The rest is all just talking about how who behave towards others.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: thrylos on December 25, 2017, 12:30:36 AM
All person has weakness and strength. And no president in a country that people don't complain. So I think both are considerable.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: zwiggel on December 25, 2017, 01:06:43 AM
In my opinion, these two presidents have their own strengths. Obamas are particularly concerned about the social policy of care and protection of human health. For President Trump, the focus is on the economic development of the country.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: ichsan ardi on December 25, 2017, 02:03:45 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

No. obama much much better. obama try to make a peace, and trump want to make a war.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 25, 2017, 04:06:22 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

No. obama much much better. obama try to make a peace, and trump want to make a war.

Till now, Trump hasn't invaded a single nation. He has made some verbal provocations against fat boy Kim, but there has been no military action. Under Obama, the Americans invaded Libya and toppled Gaddafi. And it was Obama (along with his cronies, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden) who channeled the flow of weapons and equipment to the ISIS in Syria and Iraq.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: jims22 on December 28, 2017, 08:21:19 AM
Obama is a statesman while Trump is an action man. Tump knows to take action on time and when he was not. He faced challenges and make decision in difficult situations. That is what makes Trump better than Obama.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: WAWLLET on December 28, 2017, 08:41:57 AM
Which one invested in bitcoin?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Pancho95 on December 28, 2017, 09:03:46 AM
No he is not. Obama was an example how someone should be leading democrati country even he has made some mistakes with health insurance and wars but in general Trump is not even close to Obama in any area of leading people.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: howlong3098 on December 28, 2017, 10:18:44 AM
Obama has completed the task for 8 years, too early to know who is better, still see Obama better


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Irriducibili on December 28, 2017, 11:08:38 AM
Obama had more stable and wise program...Trump is gross


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: OptimusPrime:) on December 28, 2017, 01:06:47 PM
Naah, Obama was better :(


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Goethe on December 28, 2017, 01:30:38 PM
I do not think that Trump is better than Obama.The Americans are not satisfied about Trump government,public relations with other country,new tax system,and in plus he thinks that USA is as own company.Obama was a good President,of course no perfect but he did a lot of good stuff for the Usa.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: jekanmasin on December 28, 2017, 01:48:35 PM
he sure a leader of all.. no one dare to challenge his power. he do what a leader must do.. taking care of his nation well.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: focmere on December 28, 2017, 02:33:49 PM
Yes Or No
And Why

It's obvious that Trump has no idea what he is doing when it comes to International Relationships. He wants to look like a tough guys, when he is just a coward in reality, he is lucky he has money.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Xiomara on December 28, 2017, 03:23:45 PM
Perhaps yes, because Trump had reduced by $ 12 billion of US public debt in the first month of its leadership of the country.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Rebdoomer on December 28, 2017, 03:52:43 PM
I think we all agree that both Trump and Obama are better than Bush starting the unnecessary Iraq war which created ISIS.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Snub on December 29, 2017, 09:10:06 AM
I think Obama is much better than Trump. Because, when he was in office of the president, the country was in good hands. Trump somehow does not inspire confidence in his actions. Obama was probably one of the best presidents in history in my opinion.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: bernashka on December 29, 2017, 09:59:48 AM
Forgive me, but it's hard to be worse than Barack Obama! What's worse? With him, and so shaky relations between the United States of America and Russia completely deteriorated. With him there were loud upheavals (all kinds of "crumbling" and revolution) with the destruction of states and the public execution of their leaders. With him in Ukraine there was a coup d'état and a bloodbath on the Donbas began. With him, the desire for globalization acquired a manic color. He imposed sanctions against Russia. With him, Russophobic sentiment intensified so much that there is a feeling that a lighted match has to be brought to the haystack - and the war will break out. Obama's team resembles a pack of rabid dogs that are rushing off chains, dropping foam to tear Russia "to shreds." And so on.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Iyanuoluwa on December 29, 2017, 10:50:35 AM
Obama is much more better than trump cause he really understand what it means to be the leader of a country and he knows how to lead a country to a better grand.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 29, 2017, 10:55:38 AM
I think Obama is much better than Trump. Because, when he was in office of the president, the country was in good hands. Trump somehow does not inspire confidence in his actions. Obama was probably one of the best presidents in history in my opinion.

In "good hands"? What do you even mean by that? During Obama's term, the federal debt almost increased by $10 trillion. And you have the courage to call that guy as one of the best presidents in history? During his term, the Americans were a laughing stock in the world politics. Their foreign policy in the middle-east was dictated by Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: NashAmajh on December 29, 2017, 06:11:15 PM
I think Trump is not better than Obama.There are many reasons why I think that trump is not better than Obama.
Firstly Obama is very  brave,honest and peace lover
and these virtues are not available in Trump.That is why from my perspective Obama is better than Trump.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: azisjz4 on December 29, 2017, 08:22:06 PM
I Think Obama is much better than Thrump. Because in my opinion Thrump cant make a peace in this world. Thrump want to make a war..


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: salamyman on December 29, 2017, 08:51:58 PM
This is the best example of a thread that should have a poll. But even without the truth is obvious in the responses that people give. The majority is pretty clear.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: joebrook on December 29, 2017, 09:14:19 PM
I think Obama is much better than Trump. Because, when he was in office of the president, the country was in good hands. Trump somehow does not inspire confidence in his actions. Obama was probably one of the best presidents in history in my opinion.

In "good hands"? What do you even mean by that? During Obama's term, the federal debt almost increased by $10 trillion. And you have the courage to call that guy as one of the best presidents in history? During his term, the Americans were a laughing stock in the world politics. Their foreign policy in the middle-east was dictated by Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.
Trump is far better than Obama, he has shown himself to do things only in the interest of America and the American people, he has grown the economy to such levels he promised he would, people ridiculed for that and he has kept them quiet. Though people don't like him, one cannot deny that he has done a very excellent job.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: agus_sna on December 30, 2017, 07:09:10 AM
I do not agree because the US president is now concerned with his own country not thinking of other countries, just as he thinks of low Islamic religion, so I prefer the former president,
thank you


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: mirror001 on December 30, 2017, 10:21:11 AM
We can't look at Obama and Trump yet. Obama was president 8 years and Trump is president just 100 days.  It's to early look at them. Obama had numerous accomplishments and obviously many mix-up, as each president. It's still to brief time to say anything in regards to Trump. Trump changed a considerable measure since when he moved toward becoming president and he is currently more sound and more sensible. On the off chance that he proceed with along these lines, he may turn into a decent president. The time will appear. He right now has no solid outcomes to appear. The Obamacare did not pass, nor did the working of the divider against Mexico.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: sebo.k on December 30, 2017, 10:33:44 AM
NO. Though I didn't like Obama, but he wasn't racist like donald trum. The world is built on immigration, but for him to behave America is not dependent on other country is something I hit about him.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: domerosan10 on December 30, 2017, 02:09:47 PM
NO

in terms of his leadership, I think that the US government under President Trump is more to "Israel First" instead of "America First." It could be that his government, on the other hand, with Obama does not want his government controlled by Israel, is uncomfortable with the condition.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: fluxer on December 30, 2017, 03:19:12 PM
Obama was much better than Trump. :)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: nagatraju on December 30, 2017, 03:50:46 PM
Obama is better then Trump. I respect him very much. America was going through the best time when Obama was president. As for me, Trump  is unworthy of the post of president.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: salamyman on December 30, 2017, 04:00:06 PM
John Wayne better than Trump?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: ninadoge on December 31, 2017, 03:53:03 AM
Trump made the situation of USA economy better for US residents. Unemployment are taking care very good.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: terrenceschroeder on January 02, 2018, 03:50:42 AM
Job numbers, the stock market, ISIS retreat and his reception overseas all speak for themselves, America is back thanks to Donald Trump.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Notmyfault7 on January 02, 2018, 04:09:22 AM
Yes, obama has wasted the eight year while he was a president, thanks to him, the US would not go that fast.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: ricechigga on January 02, 2018, 04:16:15 AM
John Wayne better than Trump?
we're talking about the comparing on US's president bro.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Mstkotha on January 02, 2018, 04:33:21 AM
 If we had used a less strict standard, Trump would look even worse by comparison. He makes misleading statements and mild exaggerations – about economic statistics, his political opponents and many other subjects – far more often than Obama.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: almtu on January 02, 2018, 04:56:11 AM
I think no.
Obama is more loved by America citizens.
In Obama's term more American are in a safe times. They accept Obama so much.
Now Trump is in the process to accept by all citizens of Amarica.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: moin2017 on January 02, 2018, 05:05:25 AM
I cannot can't compare Obama and Trump yet.Barak Obama was president 8 years and Trump is president only 100 days,The President is one man. He is surrounded by people who advise him, some being on his side and some being against him. We have already seen people more or less betray Trump.
Lets see what happen future


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: zoom_rich on January 02, 2018, 05:12:58 AM
Trump did say that he's going to make America great again, which means that when he took office America wasn't great. Right? So I guess Trump wins again.

In all honesty it's a lot better than it would have been with Hillary.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: flyinghedgehog on January 02, 2018, 05:21:44 AM
Yes with Amerians but no with immigrants.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 02, 2018, 06:16:35 AM
Yes with Amerians but no with immigrants.

The Republicans in general are not very fond of immigrants, as most of their support comes from the native non-Hispanic white population. As more and more immigrants are granted voting rights, the Republicans will win lesser number of seats. It is already quite evident in states such as Colorado, Nevada and Florida.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: bibi91011 on January 10, 2018, 11:43:42 PM
Everyone has their own opinion! Trump is my choice. Why not? He doesn't lie every time he opens his mouth and he's slowly but surely fulfilling his promises. He's great and God sent!


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on January 11, 2018, 01:10:50 AM
Trump’s FDA Move Unleashes Natural Cures for Cancer, Heart Disease, and Alzheimer’s... (http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/holistic_alternative_medicine/news.php?q=1502377497)


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    MD Anderson
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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BrockenClock on January 11, 2018, 04:25:08 AM
I personally think is Trump is better. We need our immigration LAWS enforced. They are laws not suggestions.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: taxidrvr on January 11, 2018, 04:41:46 AM
Obama was an intellectual and a good speaker, but I didn't really see anything great from him. I would attribute to him the failed Obama care healthcare plan and the Middle East civil wars that have made the situation caused by the Iraq war even worse.

Trump is a terrible speaker in the intellectual way, but he's really good at double entrende statements that troll people.  He seems to be very good at strategy in way that is both comical and scary. I think we'll see a lot of social agitation caused by Trump, but also a lot of growth. Growth will probably hit 5 or 6% by the end of his first term. If he gets a second, I have no doubt he'll try to change the rules of the game that keep our growth levels down, and get the GDP growth up to 8%, even if it means bringing back tons of pollution. 

Trump will be better.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: ayo_deji1 on January 11, 2018, 12:05:38 PM
Yes

Because he his a man of his words. He proved it buy making Isreal the capital of Jerusalem.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kallen11 on January 11, 2018, 12:56:02 PM
yes. i go for trump because he boldly speaks and he do what he's saying and he proved it. in his leadership there is no visible problem in america today.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: 110910ktx on January 11, 2018, 03:10:48 PM
No. Though I didn't like Obama, but he wasn't racist like donald trum.Trump made the situation of USA economy better for US residents :-X :-X


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: wasiman wahing on January 11, 2018, 04:59:53 PM
trump is no better than obama because trump arrogant people, usa require a wise leader because america is the most influential country in the world


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: mrhollis1 on January 11, 2018, 05:53:08 PM
Trump is a man of his words? Is this a joke?
On the other hand he might build that wall...


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: iOlite Foundation on January 11, 2018, 06:48:22 PM
Think so?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: irenejcolla on January 11, 2018, 11:35:27 PM
President Obama was a leader and all of the leaders of the world had respect for him. No one respects Frump.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: tommierijnbout on January 11, 2018, 11:35:58 PM
Most definitely, President Trump. Barrack Hussein Obama is a stronger Muslim policy leader, sharing with his kindred.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: janiirobins on January 11, 2018, 11:37:39 PM
Obama is a woose and he surely didn't know anything about foreign policies,for sure. He was the worse president ever along with Clinton.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: taraatedesco on January 11, 2018, 11:38:02 PM
Obama did all he could to destroy this country and now President Trump is making things right one battle at a time.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Paopao on January 12, 2018, 11:40:06 AM
Looks like trump is worse than obama because trump is more selfish in deciding opinion while tends to reverse, obama decide opinion by way of thinking more critical.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: santali on January 12, 2018, 12:44:58 PM
I probably do not care who was elected to the new post of the president, but I'm sure that the US will go to a bad side. So what would not be the president, everyone is on the good side.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Future3000 on January 12, 2018, 01:09:42 PM
Trump is way better than Obama.

The President is one man. He is surrounded by people who advise him, some being on his side and some being against him. We have already seen people more or less betray Trump.

The actions of Obama have set up all kinds of problems for America that won't be able to be straightened out for years. If there is war, it is not Trump's doing. Trump has simply been "stuck" in the position of taking care of a war that Obama set up to happen. If there is economic crash, Trump simply didn't have time to stop it when he was stuck in the driver's seat.

Many former presidents used the office of President for personal gain, and for gain for their cronies. Cleaning up the mess, and turning America around to be for the people, won't be easy. Here's what I mean via an example.



The IRS income tax is illegal for several reasons. The IRS is simply a private company, the Internal Revenue Service, even though it is written up in what looks like law. The tactics it uses is to threaten people and companies, taking them to court using tricks of law that people don't understand, is the only reason why the IRS wins in court.

Now, imagine that Trump decided to show people how to beat the IRS every time. What would happen to the economy if he did this? Probably 90% of the people would stop paying income tax, right? In the long run this would be a great thing for the country. In the short run it would probably be economic chaos. Why?

The legal and lawful places where Government can get tax money are export/import between the States, and between the USA and other nations. If there wasn't any income tax, Government would have to get its money from export/import tariffs. This would change the whole structure of international business. Suddenly, like over night, companies that moved out of the country would have to come back, or they just might lose everything because of extremely different taxes on export/imports.

The economic crash that followed the, above, two changes - big drop in IRS tax, and big increase in export/import tax - might be devastating. Yet, those two changes would make all kinds of things in America to be more legal and lawful.

So, how would Trump pull it off if he decided to do it? It would be a difficult thing to do and yet keep the economy from being harmed, and keep people and business from being harmed. Yet, it would be the right thing to do because it would take away a whole bunch of illegality and unlawfulness out of America.

In the long run, this simple thing would make America the strongest nation in the world, with all other nations formally bowing to her, and liking it that way. It would, also, take away the desire of a large percent of so-called American patriots to want to fight their Government.



Change is not easy. Cleaning up the mess of Obama and many Presidents before him will not be easy. It will look like Trump is doing all kinds of bad things for a while. But that's the only way he can make changes for the better in the mess we are in.

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You have listed only promises Trump. Action and never will be. I refer to Trump as the host of the show "I am President". In addition to public relations and narcissism I see nothing else. If it is not confirmed that he is an agent of the Kremlin. Never before in America was not Secretary of state-a friend of Putin.

Do you really think Putin is that much powerful? I doubt it so much, Trump is a man of increadible assets and he doesn't really act friendly to Russia, it's media overestimates this. He leads right policy with immigrants.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: iconicavs on January 12, 2018, 01:58:04 PM
Yes Or No
And Why

He is and everybody knows that. From the manners to etiquette, the former President is way better than junk Trump.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: iconicavs on January 12, 2018, 02:00:14 PM
Obama did all he could to destroy this country and now President Trump is making things right one battle at a time.

that's quite the opposite my dear. if you think trump is better then do some research. politics is different from business and trump and trump is viewing this new news to him like his own damn business.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on January 12, 2018, 05:09:11 PM
I personally think is Trump is better. We need our immigration LAWS enforced. They are laws not suggestions.

In the USA, the only way immigration laws can be enforced is by the ignorance of the immigrants. Here is what I mean.

Once an illegal has entered the United States, he can use the Constitution and Amendments just like any other man or woman. Property rights rule in the USA. The body of the (so-called) illegal is his property. The illegal can use the 6th and 7th Amendments for a jury trial, just like anyone else can.

If the illegal were smart enough, he could enter a claim into any case against him (like an immigration case), or start his own claim case, and make the point of it to be, Does anybody have a claim of harm or damage against me?

If he hasn't harmed any man or woman, he wins. When he wins in an immigration case against him this way, they can't retry him for the same thing. It's against the law - double jeopardy.

He can do anything he wants as long as he doesn't harm anyone, damage their property, or make a REAL THREAT against any man or woman. This includes travel anywhere in the USA.

The funny thing is, American citizens can use this process against the U.S. or State Governments and beat them all the time, if there has been no harm or damage done.

Listen to this video to see how easy it is without even having to use the Amendments or a jury trial - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10.

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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Clefnick on January 12, 2018, 05:26:38 PM
I prefer Obama to Trump. This is because of Trump's policies, am not in support of his policies.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on January 12, 2018, 05:31:23 PM
I prefer Obama to Trump. This is because of Trump's policies, am not in support of his policies.

You don't see Trump's main policy. He showed it to all of us right in the elections, and he has been showing ever since. His main policy is to have the following 3 basic policies:
1. Formal policies;
2. Informal policies;
3. Changeability of these policies, on moment's notice, any time he wants.

Now, his goal is different. His goal is to make America stronger than it ever was. The goal of his opponents is to bring America down, and to make a one-world government.

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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on January 12, 2018, 05:40:18 PM
CNN Goes Over the Edge (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/232848-2018-01-12-cnn-goes-over-the-edge.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0112091757-Shithole-Countries.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/232848-2018-01-12-cnn-goes-over-the-edge.htm)


Watch the hosts at CNN react to President Trump's comments about certain countries. It's hilarious.


CNN Goes Over the Edge
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fkkKzKAa7-w/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLAL6v3XBoWeE6QIoYyGTlQP8PIqSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkkKzKAa7-w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkkKzKAa7-w)


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on January 12, 2018, 05:44:05 PM
'Why are we having all these people from s***hole countries come here?' ... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/232838-2018-01-12-why-are-we-having-all-these-people-from-s-hole.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0112083007-Trump-B---W-pointing.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/232838-2018-01-12-why-are-we-having-all-these-people-from-s-hole.htm)


'Why are we having all these people from s***hole countries come here?' The astonishingly blunt question Trump asked in Oval Office immigration meeting (but he'd welcome more from Norway)

President was meeting in the Oval Office with senators from both parties about proposals for immigration reform

He reportedly asked them why the U.S. had to shoulder the burden of refugees coming to the U.S. after Third World natural disasters

'Why are we having all these people from s***hole countries come here?' he asked, according to a Washington Post report

He also said: 'Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out'

Trump has been rescinding 'Temporary Protected Status' for otherwise-illegal immigrants who came from Haiti, Nicaragua and El Salvador because of earthquakes and hurricanes

In addition to Haitians, he was referring to people from African countries

Trump said he wanted people from countries like Norway, whose prime minister he held a press conference with Wednesday

The White House did not deny Trump made the comments in a statement

Haiti's government came out and said they 'vehemently condemn' Trump's comments in relation to their country

Haitian ambassador Paul Altidor said Trump's remarks were 'based on stereotypes' and he was either 'misinformed' or miseducated'


President Donald Trump, frustrated with America's continued responsibility for immigrants fleeing Third World natural disasters, asked members of Congress Thursday in vulgar terms why the United States had to shoulder such a burden.

'Why are we having all these people from s***hole countries come here?' Trump said, according to two people who were briefed on the meeting and then leaked the comment to The Washington Post.

Trump was reportedly speaking about Haitians and citizens of various African nations.  

'Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out,' he told people in the meeting, according to CNN.

The comments has caused outrage around the world, with the United Nations calling President Trump 'racist'.


Read more and click the links at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5260595/Trump-asked-U-S-people-s-hole-countries.html.


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on January 12, 2018, 05:47:27 PM
Vicente Fox to Trump: 'Your mouth is the foulest shithole in the world' (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/232834-2018-01-12-vicente-fox-to-trump-your-mouth-is-the-foulest-shithole.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0112081011-Vicente-Fox-And-Trump.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/232834-2018-01-12-vicente-fox-to-trump-your-mouth-is-the-foulest-shithole.htm)


Former Mexican President Vicente Fox had some harsh words for President Trump after he reportedly referred to Haiti, El Salvador, and African nations as "shithole countries" during a meeting with lawmakers.

".@realDonaldTrump, your mouth is the foulest shithole in the world," Fox tweeted in response on Thursday. "With what authority do you proclaim who's welcome in America and who's not. America's greatness is built on diversity, or have you forgotten your immigrant background, Donald?"



Read more at https://www.prisonplanet.com/vicente-fox-to-trump-your-mouth-is-the-foulest-shithole-in-the-world.html.


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: multic2012 on January 14, 2018, 04:06:12 PM
Trump!!!!Really they are all puppets.All want to access all over the world!But it's never gonna happen...But trump it as an investor and direct them to other people,and Obama is a pawn and he hasn't trained this post!!!!We choose a President in our country)But thank God I don't live in the US


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: MattPumpkin on January 14, 2018, 06:41:59 PM
I prefer Obama to Trump. This is because of Trump's policies, am not in support of his policies.

Now, his goal is different. His goal is to make America stronger than it ever was. The goal of his opponents is to bring America down, and to make a one-world government.


Trump doesn’t have a goal. He’s just a scared 71-year old man that spends 8 hours a day yelling at the TV and occasionally tweeting about it.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: yoseph on January 14, 2018, 08:56:00 PM
I prefer Obama to Trump. This is because of Trump's policies, am not in support of his policies.

Now, his goal is different. His goal is to make America stronger than it ever was. The goal of his opponents is to bring America down, and to make a one-world government.


Trump doesn’t have a goal. He’s just a scared 71-year old man that spends 8 hours a day yelling at the TV and occasionally tweeting about it.
Weren't you listening, His goal was to make America great again and it seems that he is actually fulfilling those promises. Stocks in companies are rising, More and more people are getting jobs and the economy is rising as well. He clearly stated that he is for the interest of the American people and not anyone else. Even in his tenure there has been less police brutality against the minor races in the USA.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: gmughals110 on January 14, 2018, 09:03:54 PM
I think Obama was better than Trump


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: basel21 on January 15, 2018, 05:50:04 AM
for me is no because trump is newly elected president.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: evilbadger on January 15, 2018, 05:54:19 AM
Obama is better than Trump in so many ways. One item of constant concern for me is Trump's lack of a filter. His behavior suggests he is only five years old. His tweets are filled with tantrums. Overall, he is the exact opposite of the person i want holding the nuclear launch codes. 


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Terminator10 on February 28, 2018, 08:31:45 AM
I think, we can't compare Obama and Trump yet, because Obama was president 8 years.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Lasvista on February 28, 2018, 09:25:58 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

No , Obama still the best though , I like obama than trump , trump has a bad image on the american citizen and as you can see of the rating of obama, still obama is the number one.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: GabeLogan420 on February 28, 2018, 09:34:50 AM
Yes Or No
And Why
Each president has his own merits. I can not say for sure. Obama is more democratic. Trump is more determined. In the current economic climate, Trump is probably better.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: eyesninja21 on February 28, 2018, 11:35:20 AM
Well for me I would say yes, President Donald Trump is better than Obama because of he's too dysfunctional to actually do any of the things he talks about. ;D
In 2020 the only thing we'll be able to say is that his four years of narcissism put the brakes on what the previous administration was doing. :)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: haggaik on February 28, 2018, 12:21:21 PM
For me the two (2) of them are different individuals and they can never be alike in their dealings for sure. Though one term to judge with their work at the time in the presidency.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: AmpaLex11 on March 07, 2018, 05:42:54 PM
I don't support either of the above. I Supported myself to become US president always LOL


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Crazygreek on March 07, 2018, 09:15:49 PM
I'm not livining in USA and also can't be sure that i know what Obama did for his country. But i like Trump more just because of his charisma and other stuff.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: maaprom on March 07, 2018, 10:26:27 PM
Yes
Barack Obama:  added more to US debt than the previous 43 president combined.

Trump: 17 year low unemployment rate.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on March 07, 2018, 10:46:51 PM
They Finally Found Proof ???? (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/236028-2018-03-07-they-finally-found-proof.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0307092449-We-found-proof.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/236028-2018-03-07-they-finally-found-proof.htm)


They Finally Found Proof 😆
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yUAVD5BCymY/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLCK3bkrzDP_KMM3-ipUBSs0fv8x8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUAVD5BCymY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUAVD5BCymY)


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on March 07, 2018, 11:16:28 PM
Russia Accuses U.S. of Interfering in its Elections (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/236014-2018-03-07-russia-accuses-u-s-of-interfering-in-its-elections.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0307075628-Russian-official.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/236014-2018-03-07-russia-accuses-u-s-of-interfering-in-its-elections.htm)


A senior Russian diplomat has accused the United States of interfering in the country's upcoming presidential election, flipping the script on the entire "Russian meddling" narrative.

Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said that Russia's foreign ministry and intelligence agencies were closely tracking efforts to influence voters.

"In the past years, the number of attempts to interfere in our domestic processes always increased ahead of presidential elections, as well as in the run-up to parliamentary elections," Ryabkov told the TASS news agency.

"Such trends can also be seen during the current presidential campaign. The foreign ministry has been taking note of them, our agencies have been dealing with this issue."

Ryabkov hinted that the efforts were concentrated online and consisted of "efforts by our opponents to sway young people."

"Information warfare will grow far bitterer, and that's something we will have to live with during the upcoming period," he added.

Given that the establishment media has been claiming for well over a year that Russian interfered in the US presidential election with zero evidence to back it up, the bar for proof isn't very high.

However, the U.S. government and deep state's history of interfering in foreign countries is a matter of historical record.


Read more at https://www.prisonplanet.com/russia-accuses-u-s-of-interfering-in-its-elections.html.


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: intel86 on March 08, 2018, 06:36:30 AM

no, I think trump person selfish and only priority of self-interest for example trump look at muslim is one who should be suspected and this attitude that can hurt moslem. other same obama which priority public interest and do not distinguish different religion, race and tribe exist in world  8)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: vermontconan on March 08, 2018, 07:03:14 AM
in market trump show positive progress on Bitcoin value. trump term will increase benefits to cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: TosTeam on March 08, 2018, 07:22:27 AM
No.
With his protectionist policies, the US will be taken over by other countries in terms of trade. (Maybe..China?)
It is not a good idea to lock the door from the outside.
Then other countries will also turn their back from the US.
His policy does not fit to the globalized and interconnected world we are living in today.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 08, 2018, 11:20:10 AM
in market trump show positive progress on Bitcoin value. trump term will increase benefits to cryptocurrency.

As of now, there is no sign to support what you are saying. But overall, for the Americans Trump proved to be a much better president when compared to Obama. Here are the reasons why I am saying so:

1. Trump is giving importance to American manufacturers
2. Stock markets are at all-time high
3. His foreign policy is better than that of Obama
4. He has the ability to make his own decissions
5. Ivanka Trump is much hotter than Malia Ann Obama.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Akolade66 on March 08, 2018, 11:27:41 AM
Trump is worse , America social media President and a big mouth too. that guy is just not a politician


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Raone on March 08, 2018, 11:56:09 AM
I think there is no match between them. Obama is a lot better. Trump is a the greatest crook.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: btsjungkook on March 08, 2018, 12:23:12 PM
I think obama is better than trump because of the leadership role of obama many people like him and respect him, not like the trump that many do not like him and he is not respected as leader


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 08, 2018, 01:41:28 PM
I think obama is better than trump because of the leadership role of obama many people like him and respect him, not like the trump that many do not like him and he is not respected as leader

It doesn't matter whether foreigners like Trump or not. He is fine, as long as he is doing a good job to the American citizens. He has taken some decisions such as a freeze on refugee arrivals and imposing tariffs on goods from Mexico. These measures were very unpopular with the foreigners. But the fact remains that the Americans are going to benefit immensely out of it.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: specialfoolhardyU on March 09, 2018, 03:41:29 PM
I don't think trump is better than Obama. He is a total pshycho absolutely ;)


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Koomsd on March 09, 2018, 03:48:07 PM
Yes , He will work well with Putin and other world leaders and He won’t play games with North Korea and he won’t tolerate the threat they pose to American society and beyond


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: parvez01768 on March 09, 2018, 04:17:39 PM
i think trump is not better than obama...obama wants to bring peace but trump destroyed the peace


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: timadok911 on March 09, 2018, 05:26:02 PM
Obama's policy was far from ideal, but he did things for his country, Trump's policy is like a circus and the main clown is king ... how can that be? Obama was not perfect in his views, he had many punctures in his political career, a lot of unleashed wars, many dirty deeds ... but he also led the country in the right direction, even if only he understood ... and what about Trump? to rally all women against themselves, a great deal for a real man, I do not know what he prepared for America in the future, but the prospects are not at all joyful ... (((


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: cloningjeans0 on March 10, 2018, 06:39:21 PM
I am an Obama supporter. He was a true patriot and during his reign USA progressed a lot in every field


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: John Richards on March 10, 2018, 08:41:20 PM

Yes definitely obama better than Trump.

Which is common in some areas
And make the US economy unstable.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: shiki3226 on March 10, 2018, 11:30:38 PM
People have different opinions about Obama and Trump but for me, whoever loves the people genuinely and cares for them is the better president.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on March 11, 2018, 03:04:12 AM
Trump is worse , America social media President and a big mouth too. that guy is just not a politician

And a good thing, too. The politicians have ruined America. Can Trump turn things around in his short presidency?

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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 11, 2018, 04:21:59 AM
Yes definitely obama better than Trump.

Which is common in some areas
And make the US economy unstable.

If you are a foreigner, then I can understand you supporting Obama more than Trump. But for the Americans, Trump has been a much better president when compared to Obama. Look at the economy. It is in much better shape now than it was two years back.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: thongsbe on March 13, 2018, 01:15:59 AM
Obama was undoubtedly better as Trump is racist and mean.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: HeavenIneed on March 14, 2018, 10:26:54 PM
People have  very strong verdicts and notions about everyone and therefore it’s okay.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: tinnedchatting on March 15, 2018, 03:21:52 AM
Nobody is right. These are all relative views. Obama is right for some while trump is right for others


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: redentor03 on March 15, 2018, 04:38:45 AM
YES, One thing for sure is he LOVES this Country, unlike OBAMA. I see Trump is supporting terrorist organizations such as YPG, PKK etc. in Syria. This is unacceptable. and progressives spend the majority of their time Concentrating on trying to become another Country when they should be Concentrating on getting them to be more like us.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: haremaboriginal7 on March 15, 2018, 06:55:46 AM
I don't need to have any information regarding this because I have no interest in politics


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: 13risingforce on March 15, 2018, 07:42:42 AM
I dont know who is better for america, but i dont like trump. I think obama still better than trump for the world. Trump policy is too dangerous and very easy to trigger disputes between countries like north korea or russia.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: loftyboliv on March 17, 2018, 12:24:28 AM
I don't need to have any information regarding this because I have no interest in politics


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: rugjaguar4 on March 17, 2018, 02:16:10 AM
Obama was better but that doesn’t matter anymore as Trump is the one now.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Goethe on March 17, 2018, 12:08:37 PM
I think Obama was better USA President that Trump.We can look the policy of Trump,absolutely not clear,in plus he constantly fired people of his stuff.So this is really unbelievable.The actual President of the Usa looks like an arrogant dictator without any clou an Knowledge about a lot of things,we are in really bad hands.I hope that Trump in the next twitter will write something of less stupid and  more intelligent.This is Trumpland not USA.God bless us.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Orna on March 17, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
Well, it doesn't matter whether Trump is better than Obama.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Clara.Wilfred on March 17, 2018, 12:29:14 PM
I think Obama trump bush Clinton are all as bad as each other


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Azurewrath on March 17, 2018, 01:07:08 PM
i dont know who is better, but i know Trump will have more influence than Obama in history


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Tosin12 on March 19, 2018, 03:14:18 PM
Obama is better than Trump because he's more diplomatic and he's man of the people


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: troydar05 on March 21, 2018, 12:27:29 AM
Trump actually respects the separation of powers Wlwhen a federal court blocked the travel ban,trump worked through the courts,not on his own.When his plan to repeal Obamacare was in danger,he did not use Reconciliation which is how it was passed in the first place.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: akishang on March 21, 2018, 12:34:56 AM
We are not sure yet. Trump just started and it will be unfair to Obama if we start comparing them. What I am only aware of is the the United States will always remain strong no matter who the leader is. USA is lucky compared to those who live in poor countries. One burger in the US can feed the whole family in the poor countries. That's how huge the gap is.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: AndrewPeoples on March 21, 2018, 10:27:16 PM
Trump is not better than obama.
Coz trump is not a politician.
Trump is a business man,
So he have not enough idea political


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BtcoinSpider on March 21, 2018, 10:46:30 PM
Obama was a puppet in the hands of establishment politicians from the Democrat party, such as Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump is independent. He is capable of taking his own independent decisions.

@Sithara007,

"...Donald Trump is independent. ...." independent as in MANIPULATING VOTES or what?

Trump or TRAP was the only president who got to the white house without actually winning the election!
now do you call this democracy? :o


Now, i think G20 should focus on facebook manipulation instead of bumping eye  on crypto currency which has come to deliver people from bondage. :o :o :o


Thanks


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BtcoinSpider on March 21, 2018, 10:49:15 PM
We are not sure yet. Trump just started and it will be unfair to Obama if we start comparing them. What I am only aware of is the the United States will always remain strong no matter who the leader is. USA is lucky compared to those who live in poor countries. One burger in the US can feed the whole family in the poor countries. That's how huge the gap is.


Bro, i promise to give you 5 BURGER SMERIT if, you can expanciate further?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Denifriska on March 23, 2018, 09:25:31 PM
Yes Trump is better than Obama because he has better platforms when it comes to shutting down the whole country. Not taking reffugees because terrorist might sneek in their borders. Good job Trump. He secluded the cluntry from fighting war with another country.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: technoloverr on March 23, 2018, 09:41:23 PM

Change is not easy. Cleaning up the mess of Obama and many Presidents before him will not be easy. It will look like Trump is doing all kinds of bad things for a while. But that's the only way he can make changes for the better in the mess we are in.

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So...
If Trump does something that has no good impact, seems stupid and illogical... It's because he's "cleaning the mess of the former presidents"?

How... Convenient...

Well who can talks back to such argument anyway?
Trumpists seem dumber and dumber every time they talk :/

If Trump does something that has no good impact, then he is bad.

This isn't the real question. The question presents the idea of determining which things he does that are good, and which are bad, and which look good and which look bad.

It seems that you are either dumb, or else you are a bit of a troll, since the idea wasn't even about bad things that Trump might do. If Trump is cleaning up the mess, he is doing good things, even if some of the reactions are temporarily bad.

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good point! totally agree!!!


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: us11csalyer on March 24, 2018, 02:44:52 AM
Trump is too unpredictable. Obama was a well-bred, educated and politically oriented person, and Trump is a billionaire who got to power. I am not American and dont see everything but I jist think Obama was better.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: nova999 on March 24, 2018, 03:02:38 AM
Obama is 100% better speaker than Trump... Just go back to some of his talks, very inspiring.

Donald Trump talks like a layman, his speaking ability is horrible, he always has to ad lip a bit to his speeches...


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on March 24, 2018, 04:33:16 AM
Chuck Schumer admits: 'Trump is better than Obama' [video] (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/237082-2018-03-23-chuck-schumer-admits-trump-is-better-than-obama-video.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0323084800-Chuck-Shumer.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/237082-2018-03-23-chuck-schumer-admits-trump-is-better-than-obama-video.htm)


Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has done a complete 180-degree turn on Thursday, taking to the Senate floor to praise President Donald Trump's leadership and comparing it favorably to former President Barack Obama.

You read that right: Schumer came forward and told all of Congress that Trump's latest move was "exactly right" — and something Obama could never pull off.

The same Schumer that one year ago had a screaming fit meltdown over Trump while eating at a restaurant has now come full circle, applauding the president for putting America first.

"I don't agree with President Trump on a whole lot, but today I want to give him a big pat on the back," Schumer said in his speech. "He is doing the right thing when it comes to China."

Schumer is referring to the order Trump issued Thursday that paves the way for imposing tariffs on as much as $60 billion worth of Chinese imports to punish Beijing for what the president said is the theft of American technology and Chinese pressure on U.S. companies to hand it over.

"It is the largest deficit of any country in the history of our world," Trump said of the U.S.-China trade imbalance, blaming it for lost American jobs.

He said his action would make the country stronger and richer.

Even Schumer agrees with him, and admitted that prior administrations weren't strong enough to follow through with the policy.

"Unfortunately, previous presidents, Democrat and Republican, just stood by as China did what it did to us. President Trump is exactly right. I have called for such action for years and been disappointed by the inactions of both President Bush and Obama," Schumer said. "I'm very pleased that this administration is taking strong action to get a better deal on China."

Trump has directed the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative to publish a list of proposed tariffs for public comment within 15 days. USTR has already identified potential targets: 1,300 product lines worth about $48 billion. The president is also asking Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin to come up with a list of restrictions on Chinese investment.


Schumer: President Trump “Is Exactly Right” To Punish China For “Flagrant Trade Abuses”
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wIdcMr5xP7A/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLB3TIu0oj9eyuCjstbUw841r_QHeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIdcMr5xP7A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIdcMr5xP7A)


Read more and click the links at https://thehornnews.com/chuck-schumer-admits-trump-is-better/.


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: colcol55 on March 24, 2018, 06:51:44 AM
No because obama is so friendly than Trump


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: tephrafrizzy4 on April 01, 2018, 08:03:47 PM
I like being aggressive and so I like trump due to his aggressive nature


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on April 01, 2018, 08:25:33 PM
Trump is like the king of the north (really Russia), while Obama was like the king of the south (really Africa).

Daniel 11:
This is a prediction of political intrigue between two powers referred to as the “king of the North” and the “king of the South.” The names are references to their geographic location in relation to the land of Judah. Remember that Daniel was a prince from Jerusalem, and God’s people of Israel are the center of prophecy. So the two powers historically came and in the future will come from regions of the globe that are to the north and south of Jerusalem. It doesn’t necessarily mean from extremely southern or northern regions.

Read more at https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/the-final-superpower/the-king-of-the-north-vs-the-king-of-the-south.

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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: nodtaut7 on April 02, 2018, 10:12:39 PM
This is the only case I think where a people isn't given preference even after being white in colour. trump go away!


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: DEVIDIRUS on April 02, 2018, 10:50:26 PM
in Russia we had formed the opinion that Trump is too agrarian - is it true?
And these sanctions with China, for what did he do this ?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: hoaryaltitudev on April 02, 2018, 11:38:03 PM
Obama tried to give jobs to other countries while there were still unemployed in his own land so in this regards trump is better


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: leila4t4 on April 03, 2018, 09:20:10 AM
Yes Or No
And Why
Yes, because:
1.He won't tamper with the natural food chain of society
2.He understands economics
3.He will work well with Putin and other world leaders
4.He won't take our guns
5.He'll take a stand against terrorism (and he won't refuse to acknowledge it as such)
6.He won’t play games with North Korea and he won’t tolerate the threat they pose to American society and beyond
I think it`s enough


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: WorldBiz project on April 03, 2018, 09:27:41 AM
Actually I have not seen any seedy from Trump except for loud proclamations


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: fahad.khan on April 03, 2018, 09:33:53 AM
It never depends on trump or obama or anyone else, its the establishment making policy and running the country. The Senate and president are just the face, not the brain.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Rommel24 on April 03, 2018, 09:34:11 AM
What's the point. People have their strong views, no one is right. Not only is no one is right, people don't care. They don't care if they are right or wrong so long as their group wins the argument. They can have death and destruction, but that does not matter as long as they have an excuse that makes them feel as if they won.
Yes i will agree with you  that there is no win win person both of them ,it just will be imagination cause almost political person has own interest  for ourselves as greedy power motivation,,despite of their pledged,therefore the win win condition of this two person is not the measured to outside personality in their country instead we measured to behind the seen media camera of those person are be able affected of their agenda,,


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: unexecuted on April 03, 2018, 11:07:22 AM
well, they have different views on topics at least because they are from different parties. I think Obama was less radical and more calm so I prefer him


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 03, 2018, 11:21:16 AM
If you talk about the economy and foreign policy, then I have to say that Trump has performed much better than Obama. Look at the Dow Jones... When Obama stepped down, it was at 18,000 points. Now it is hovering between 23,000 and 24,000 points.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Lahirulakmalr on April 03, 2018, 11:46:16 AM
I think this worth question.But I can't see any different between them.Although Their personal behavior different, Trump is continuing Obama's force.Still they maintain the War.Trying to sell their weapons and All powered counties. Every government trying to continue this system.Poor people are poor for ever.huge rich ones are controlling everything Like Rothschild.This is politics.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: kicksay on April 03, 2018, 12:08:21 PM
Yes, Obama is far better than trump, he is very stubborn and aggressive


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: lazaretcookery3k on April 04, 2018, 02:26:32 AM
No never because trump is a total pschycho without any brain andd tactics. Obama is much better.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 04, 2018, 03:53:06 AM
Yes, Obama is far better than trump, he is very stubborn and aggressive

Being stubborn and aggressive is a mandatory requirement for being a head of state. In this regard, Trump is respected by everyone. On the other hand, Obama was a pansy who bowed down to everyone.

https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01523/obama_1523079c.jpg


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Croco1234 on April 04, 2018, 04:02:10 AM
Yes trump is better than obama but of them they have a quality to became a president


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: hygroscopicgymnasium3 on April 06, 2018, 08:09:47 PM
The thought of how the bitch became president of US just give me goosebumps still. God knows about the future of USA.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Tope559 on April 06, 2018, 08:24:13 PM
Yes Obama is better than Trump because Trump talk too much


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: SupportBitcoin on April 07, 2018, 02:46:42 AM
All politicians are the same. In it for themselves.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: NNMT on April 07, 2018, 03:11:17 AM
Obama and Trump are two very different personalities. But I think Obama is better than Trump, because Obama is always the man behind the artist. A great man but never outwardly. He does not discriminate on the basis of race, nor does he discriminate against immigrants.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Betheng10 on April 07, 2018, 03:20:28 AM
Yes Or No
And Why

No, im answering based on morals.

Trumps actions encourage racism to the country, and as a leader of a country with different races, he should've been neutral and valued both sides, native americans and none native american.

Trump migth have been given back a lot of job for americans but Obama gives oppurtunity to all. Some middle eastern refugees went to America for new hope, Obama opened doors while Trump throws them back to pit.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 07, 2018, 04:28:17 AM
Obama and Trump are two very different personalities. But I think Obama is better than Trump, because Obama is always the man behind the artist. A great man but never outwardly. He does not discriminate on the basis of race, nor does he discriminate against immigrants.

Do you have any evidence to prove that Trump discriminates against legal immigrants? Obama was too lenient to the illegal immigrants, only because he was hoping to use them as a vote bank. Trump has no such idea, and he has cracked down on illegal immigration.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Bitcoin-Turkiye on April 07, 2018, 05:56:02 AM
what is better?

as personality? Or as president?

I will answer the question with the question.

does a puppet differ from other puppets?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: lancelot0220 on April 07, 2018, 07:09:52 AM
If Trump is better than Obama, for me I will yes no, because Trump is a beginner in the Government industries, and Obama has have a lot of experiences.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: jmiro1 on April 07, 2018, 07:12:25 AM
I think Trump is worst than Obama. Better is a highly honored word for these two. In a sense, Trump is better than Obama. Cause Obama was funny and Trump is a clown.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: krogothmanhattan on April 07, 2018, 11:32:34 AM
One is a loud mouth and the other is a politician.

I didn't vote for neither and never will.

 Trump is a bully who should never have been elected to represent the USA.

 Every day is circus reality tv show that is an embarrassment for many Americans.

 All I hear is name calling and bullying. Kind of reminds of Biff from back to the future.

 As for Obama, he promised many things and never delivered.

 Namely when the 2008 financial meltdown occurred he promised to make the people who caused it to be held accountable.

 Once he got elected NOBODY ever went to jail, NOBODY was held accountable for their action.. If anything he went to bed with Wall street.

 So whats the point in comparing one with the other. They are all evil.

  The saying one is the lesser evil of the other applies here my friend.

   I have no faith in nobody. The only thing I have faith in is Cryptography. No lies there. Thus my faith lays in Bitcoin!


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: doyyulto on April 07, 2018, 01:51:06 PM
Maybe I am not a Native American, but as far as I know the president of Trump is not as good as Barrack Obama. Former president Barrack Obama is more honest, open, and more polite in any case. Sorry not downplaying the president of Trump but this is based on my observations only. I do not or have not known both, but if given a question like this, here's my opinion ..


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on April 10, 2018, 01:20:30 AM
To hell with it: Trump increasingly weary of staff advice (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/238064-2018-04-09-to-hell-with-it-trump-increasingly-weary-of-staff-advice.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/533-0409162121-84806169-8F59-431B-AD1D-C8C15305BE20cx0cy7cw0w1023r1s.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/238064-2018-04-09-to-hell-with-it-trump-increasingly-weary-of-staff-advice.htm)


"The hell with it," Trump said, recounting the scene with his aides to a West Virginia crowd last week. Trump tossed the staff-prepared remarks on tax cuts in the air and ducked as the paper fluttered to the floor. "I said, 'This is boring, come on.' Tell it like it is."

This president has never been one to stick to a script, but that abandoned speech illustrates a new phase in Trump's presidency. He is increasingly at odds with his staff — and growing wise to their tactics.

One favored staff strategy: Guide the president to the right decision by making the conventional choice seem like the only realistic option. Except now, 14 months into his administration, Trump is on to them, and he's making clear he won't be boxed in.

That was the message that an irritated Trump delivered to his national security team last week in a classified meeting about U.S. involvement in Syria.


Read more at https://apnews.com/eab8cdc9f72f43f3890f41da92ec2cf9/%22To-hell-with-it%22:-Trump-increasingly-weary-of-staff-advice.


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Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: automail on April 10, 2018, 01:29:31 AM
Its too early to tell. Give President Donald Trump at least 3-5 years to prove himself. Comparing both of them is not fair to Obama because United States is in a different situation before. US keeps on moving up and I think their President right now will help sustain what they have and improve what needs to be improved. What I hate about Trump is his focus on Americans and not caring about immigrants.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 10, 2018, 02:17:48 AM
Its too early to tell. Give President Donald Trump at least 3-5 years to prove himself. Comparing both of them is not fair to Obama because United States is in a different situation before. US keeps on moving up and I think their President right now will help sustain what they have and improve what needs to be improved. What I hate about Trump is his focus on Americans and not caring about immigrants.

He has about 2 years and 8 months remaining in his 4-year term. But I find your argument funny. It is true that Trump is caring more about the Americans. He is supposed to do that, right? I don't know from where you come from. What will be your opinion, if your government puts the immigrants before the citizens of your country?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Jeffcwen on April 10, 2018, 10:05:29 PM
Obama was a hope that was only hopeful, Trump expected what he is doing: bring the country into a chaos of confrontation with the whole world in all areas. Obama disappointed by all the expectations that revolved around his presidency. Trump is an idiot who must be restrained through the legal route because otherwise he will take the country to the ravine.


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: ggameon on April 10, 2018, 10:22:34 PM
Let's see the facts
1 trump has made america into a international joke. us has lost it's influence and russia has become the big winner in international affaires.
  a- conferences are held and the outcomes of those are imposed to usa  ;D  example: russia iran and turkey hold talks and decide what to do in syria. us is not invited nor cosulted......us has no choice but to live with the agreement reached by these countries ....this was impossible untill trump
  b- world leaders talk about trump like  a boy whom can be manipulated by flattering lol
  c- trump tries to bully and gets bullied back  ( china )
  d- europe doesn't go along with american decision anymore and even don't take us serious

 We could go on and on, unless he begins a war or doesn't get re-elected....anyway damage done to us is so huge, i can't believe this happened so soon.
America ruled the world, now they only have the power, but having trump as president , us is just a powerhouse with decreasing actual power.

Many politicians now actually openly say fuck us and their opinion about world affairs......this is huge

Btw i'm not a fan of obama, he just did not have what it took. In his defence, in his position what it would take to be successful was almost impossible for anybody else to accomplish


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: BADecker on April 11, 2018, 02:41:04 AM
Mystery of the Century.....

THE UNANSWERED MYSTERY OF THE CENTURY!!!

His 8 years of living in the White House is over.

This came from a union guy in Chicago who didn't vote for Obama Very interesting perspective!

 

It will be interesting to see what they put in his "Library" about his early years now that he is out of office.

In a country where we take notice of many, many facets of our public figures' lives, doesn't it seem odd that there's so little we know about Barack Obama?

For example, we know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery; Abe Lincoln never went to school; Jack Kennedy wore a back brace; Harry Truman played the piano.

As Americans, we enjoy knowing details about our news makers, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own ex-president.

We are all aware of the lack of incontestable birth records for Obama; that document managing has been spectacularly successful.

There are however, several additional oddities in Obama's history that appear to be as well managed as the birthing issue.

It's interesting that no one who ever dated him has shown up. The charisma that caused women to be drawn to him so strongly during his campaign, certainly would in the normal course of events, lead some lady to come forward, if only to garner some attention for herself. We all know about JFK's magnetism, that McCain was no monk and quite a few details about Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess, Joe Biden's aneurysms are no secret; look at Cheney and Clinton, we all know about their heart problems. Certainly Wild Bill Clinton's exploits before and during his White House years, were well known. That's why it's so odd that not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer.."

It's virtually impossible to know anything about this fellow. Who was best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen.

Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors? It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.

When did he meet Michele, and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? And who voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Doesn't this make you wonder?

Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.

It certainly is very, very strange...

This should be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Have you seen a movie named "The Manchurian Candidate"

As insignificant as each of us might be, someone with whom we went to school will remember our name or face; someone will remember we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us.

George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign.

He questions why no one has acknowledged he was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him.

He is such a great orator; why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Why won't he allow Columbia to release his records? Nobody remembers Obama at Columbia University.

Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there... but none remembered him.

Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia, ever."

Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, Class of '83 Political Science, and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack!

And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him."

Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbooks and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia, provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia.

Some other interesting questions:

1.Why was Obama's law license inactivated in 2002? It is said there is no record of him ever taking the Bar exam.

2...Why was Michelle's law license inactivated by court order? We understand that it was forced to avoid fraud charges.

It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 alias' are connected to him.

The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is reported to have never lived. And was originally registered to another man (Thomas Louis Wood) from Connecticut, who died in Hawaiiwhile on vacation there.

As we all know Social Security Numbers are only issued 'once, they are not reused. No wonder all his records are sealed...

Please continue sending this out. Somewhere, someone has to know SOMETHING, before he reorganized Chicago?... SOMETHING!!! He just seemed to burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention. ANYONE??? ANYWHERE??? ANYTHING???

I think soon much is going to come to light about this highly unqualified person who was President of the United States for 8 years. Soon, we will know how badly we were all doped and duped by this impostor who has basically, with much help from his minions, brought the greatest nation in history to its knees in ruins.

That will be his legacy.

He totally destroyed the Integrity, morals and Christian heritage of our once great country.

Who in the hell is he? Is America dumb or what?


Title: Re: Trump is better than Obama?
Post by: Sithara007 on April 11, 2018, 03:16:15 AM
No because Trump cares about economics, but Obama cares about its people.

Obama cared more about the foreigners than the American citizens. Even in cases were American citizens were victimized by the foreign illegal criminals, he sided with the criminals. And just tell me one thing. If the economy is in doldrums, it is going to effect everyone, right?