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Hello! We are happy and proud to announce the opening of a new pool : Hypernova (http://hypernova.pw)

We made sure to offer you the best experience with our pool, we have been working hard for that.


Advantages and features

• 1% fee: Because everyone want the maximum profit from mining, the pool only deduct 1% of total rewards for the variance handling, security, hosting, and humans time and efforts costs.
• CPPSRB (http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq-page/faq-4) reward system: The best solution we have found to pay your work. Every share you send is paid an amount in LTC, relative to the current network difficulty. When the round reaches the threshold of 49.5 LTC (total reward block - 1% fee), the last shares needed to finish the rounds are shelved for later payments.
• Custom difficulty per worker: You are free to choose the difficulty you want for each worker you set up on your account: 8 or 16 for CPU – 32, 64 or 128 for GPU.
• User defined automatic payouts: Don't worry about waiting for rewards, simply define an auto-withdrawal amount and receive it when your balance is fulled.
• Near from you: Hypernova want to give you the fastest ping possible to ensure a good quality of service. We have four load balancers (three in USA and one in Europe) for this task.
• Nice web interface: Keep an eye on the pool, and your account with a clean, simple and an eye-catching web interface with detailed statistics and graphs, on your computer, tablet or smartphone, without problem.
• Security: We don't joke with the security of the pool. SSL certificate and pin code for critical changes on the accounts like payments details.
• Google Chrome notifications: Be alerted when a block is discovered without install any addon to Google Chrome. Simply turn on this option in your account and allow Hypernova to send you them.
• Support and community: If problems arise or you simply want to talk, join us on IRC. We are on the #hypernova (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=hypernova) channel on Freenode server.

Technologies

• Powered by Prism: A custom solution for communicate with the protocol and distribute work to the workers. Coupled to low ping, you will get the lowest amount of rejected shares that you ever seen. Exclusive to Hypernova.
• Powered by Stratum or Long Polling proxy: You are free to choose which protocol to use, depending of what your miner support. Stratum is the recommended protocol for the best efficiency. In harmony with Prism, Stratum will give you the best efficiency you have never seen before. If you choose the Long Polling interface, note that you use a proxy on the back-end which communicate transparently with Stratum.
• IPv4 and IPv6: Hypernova supports both protocols, and your computer will choose automatically the one it expect to etablish the connection.

How to join us?

First of all, you need to create an account (https://hypernova.pw/register/) on Hypernova, then create a first worker.

• Address: mining.eu.hypernova.pw for Europe, mining.usa.hypernova.pw for North America (East coast), mining.usa.dallas.hypernova.pw for North America (Inland) or mining.usa.la.hypernova.pw for North America (West coast).
• Port: For Stratum (recommended if your miner support it), use 3333. For Long Polling proxy, use 9332.
• Username: You must register an account and create a worker. Once that done, simply put Username.Worker as username in the miner (e.g. John.Home)
• Password: Your worker password

cgminer example: cgminer.exe --scrypt -o http://mining.usa.hypernova.pw:3333 -u John.Home -p 12345


Feedback

Please fell free to post in this topic if you have any suggestions, concerns or issues with the pool. We hope to see you soon on Hypernova!

Also, please note that grammatical errors can be on the website, because we are not native English speakers. Thank you for kindly helping us by sending your corrections to feedback@hypernova.pw or on IRC (not here to avoid the flood about it on the forum).

Pool back-end developer is M0nsieurChat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=108038), front-end developer is Soak (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15899). Only officials and accurate informations will come from both.

Can't connect with info given here. Account created etc. but timing out. Never mind. Tried using stratum which is apparently not available.

DISREGARD!

It would really be helpful if you could describe your problem. As we are looking on the statistics (http://hypernova.pw/statistics/), you are currently mining on the pool and already have a bunch of logged shares.

We don't use Stratum because we have coded our own software to distribute work, called Prism. Stratum is a good protocol for ASIC stuff but not better with GPU, so that's a natural choice for Litecoin.

this is going to be an odd question perhaps but could you confirm that the pay system is definitely rbpps.  wemineltc had said theirs was rbpps but was actually just proportional.  i guess the simplest way to clarify this, on long rounds is it possible for the pool to take a loss and make it up on short rounds

We never lost or gain more money than we should because we pay the miners per shares submitted, proportionnaly to their work and the shares difficulty. The pool take 1% and we distribute the rest to the miners who participed to the round, accordingly to their work.

So I can say we are a really strict RBPPS pool, nothing more, nothing less.

Ah, i'm not sure, that sounds like a score based or proportional system still.  Am i correct that including the 1% fee that no more or less is paid with this pool than the 50 ltc every round divided according to people's weighted contributions whether its a 5 share round or a 5 million share round?

I have been mining for 6+ hours at around 500+ KH/S and seem stuck. We haven't found a block etc. Over 5k reported by miner but somehow hypernova reports almost none. Also not updating hash rate. What is up with the pool? I am 'TheSwede' and have 2 workers (just stopped both as it seems nothing it working).

Gave it a  test...
Threw 50Kh/s at it , and it reported 10..........

Did the same to "us.litecoinpool.org" and it reported 55kh/s

We distribute 50 LTC-1% so 49.5 LTC to all miners who mined on the previous "pool round" (in fact we calculate pending earnings every time we found a block, and we upgrade balance after 120 confirmations) proportionally to the work they submitted, taking into account the difficulty of every share submitted to adjust the earnings, obviously.

M0nsieurChat, the back-end developer wait for his account to be white-listed, I think he will detail more how works the things behind the scenes.

For information, shares under the "round facts" block on the account is not accurate for the moment, we working on that. The shares used for the payout calculation are still valid, you don't have to worry about that.

And a very good news, we just found our first block!

Does indeed seem to be catching up with stats etc. Good job!

Yeah, I don't mean to be a downer but that was my concern. Your described system is proportional/score based not rbpps. Round based pay per share is like regular pay per share where each weighted share has a fixed value in coins calculated based on expected number of shares at that current difficulty.  The difference comes in rbpps waits till a block is found and confirmed, and doesn't pay orphans.  Check coinotrons https://coinotron.com/coinotron/AccountServlet?action=statistics round stats, some rounds they only pay out a small amount of coin, others over the block reward if it goes longer.
Might want to rethink the description, there was a lot of disappointment and confusion over pay at wemineltc which is why I asked.

I didn't knew it was taking ~2 days to be able to post on this forum.. So here it is : Hi ! I'm M0nsieurChat, the co-founder of Hypernova.

Okay sorry for confusing you with using the term RBPPS.
Here is an example to be clear: Hypernova needed 1000 shares to solves its block. Bob submitted 300 shares, Sarah 300 shares as well and Josh 400 shares. Bob will get 15 LTC, Sarah 15 LTC aswell and Josh 20 LTC.

We called it Round Based Pay Per Share because at every end of a round (aka round based), we finally know how much shares the pool needed to solve this block. As we know the network's reward : 50 LTC.
As we know the reward and the total shares needed, we can extrapolate the price per share.
As we know aswell every the number shares individually submitted by every of its miners, we can safely and easy know how much we need to pay them.

So sorry again for that confusion. Hope the example above is understable.

PS : We need more hashrate to solve blocks quicker and get paid quicker !

I changed the reward system to Proportional because at the end that's what we use ;)

We need more people to give it a try and some word of mouth, help us to grow ;D

Nice proportional pool. Layout is top notch. 96% efficiency and rising!

How come there's a 16 character limit on the account password? I'm a big fan of long passwords, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. :)

16 caracters are enough for a pool account, if you choose a secure password with some random letters and numbers. We store passwords with encryption don't worry about that. ;)

Hypernova found its 2nd block ! Thanks for all miners supporting us from the beginning (or from 10 minute ago).

We're really starting to get serious and efficient.

100 LTC's redistributed and counting...

We found 3 blocks since the launch one week ago ;D

Thanks to all our members who came mine on our pool these days, that was not simple because we spotted some bugs but now we are in a good shape and all the bugs will be fixed in the next days. We created this pool to propose a robust alternative to others one, so we want to keep our promise.

We have focused on security and we have implemented a 4-digits pin code for critical changes on the accounts like payments details. Tonight we will implement SSL certification.

We are always in need of miners, the more we are, the less time we take to find blocks. Everybody is welcome :)

As Soak said, we've doubled our hashrate the last 24h. Thanks to all of you !

The website is now accessible with HTTPS and SSL is enforced on the old links to the HTTP website.

Come visit us a http://hypernova.pw and give us our chance !

Already 4 blocks since opening..

I'm loving this pool so far, kudos to M0nsieurChat and Soak!

I've found a couple bugs which have been sorted out really fast, over the course of the last week I've seen various new features added to the site and the continual development and involvement both admins show is outstanding, the community is slowing building in IRC and everybody is friendly. I really hope the speed for this pool takes off and more people come to, what I feel, is one of the better pools going.

great work guys!

Thanks for your support !
We've been up for 12 days. Still counting :)

We're going fine. Solving 1/2 blocks per day at current difficulty. However, we need you !
We managed to lower the reject rate and we plan to implement soon an exclusive PPS reward system in the litecoin world...

Stay tuned !

Stratum is now supported. We just need to fix an issue with the custom difficulty per worker, we expect to resolve this in the next days. We will implement the CPPSRB (http://eligius.st/wiki/index.php/Capped_PPS_with_Recent_Backpay) reward system as well in the same time or a little after. Exclusive in Litecoin world.

To connect to Stratum, simply change the connection port to 3333 (You can still use LP on port 9332, via a proxy on our back-end which will communicate with Stratum).

We have now between 40 and 45 Mh/s in average on the pool, and found 16 blocks since the launch by the end of April. We need more miners to find blocks more often. If you have the faith in our project, you're welcome to join us. :)

We've been working hard this week to get you the best out of our brains.
You may'd guess : the choosable custom difficulty per worker is now live again. And it's running fine and stable.

We've also set-up a HTTP Long-Polling proxy on every of our nodes on port 9332. That means if you're using an old version of cgminer or an non-stratum-supported miner like Cudaminer or pooled cpuminer, use the following infos to connect again :
http://mining.eu.hypernova.pw:9332 or http://mining.usa.hypernova.pw:9332

Next step : the CPPSRB reward system as Soak told you. It's currently working fine in the backstage, we're monitoring it and switch to it very soon...

Thanks to you all for being with us.

M0nsieurChat

It's been a pretty lucky day ! 3 blocks in a row in the same day. Keep up the good work mates !

Now that we've mostly implemented every of our desires, excepting the CPPSRB reward system coming soon, what feature would you like to see live on Hypernova ?

I'm thinking about a few things :

    Idle workers notification (by mail / SMS)
    Block notification (by mail / SMS)
    Withdraw notification (by mail / SMS)
    API (Soak if you're reading this...  :) )
    For SMS notification,would you accept to pay a small fee to cover that cost for us ? How much ?


We're open minded peoples always looking for challenges !

Good evening everyone,

Just thought I'd pop in to announce the new node on Hypernova!

mining.usa.la.hypernova.pw

Use port 3333 for Stratum Mining, and Port 9332 for access to LongPoll for Legacy Miners :)

Happy Mining.

Fellow miners,

We've heard you and switched on a new reward system: CPPSRB.
It is a PPS reward system exclusive in the Litecoin world previously used on Eligius bitcoin pool. Credit to Luke !
That means that you don't need to wait for a round to finish to earn your litecoins. You don't need either to be mining the whole round to maximize your profits. It is.. PPS with minimal variance !

For more information : https://hypernova.pw/help/#general-1 or http://eligius.st/wiki/index.php/Capped_PPS_with_Recent_Backpay

well done gents, you settled on what i think is the best of the pay systems

When I type in my litecoin address in my account settings, it all became capitals.
I thought the address is case sensitive.

It is case sensitive. Sorry about that. In fact, however the font is displaying you everything uppercase, it is logged in the database with the proper case. We just needed to make a choice between a beautiful font (which can only display uppercase characters) and something more easy to use but less sexy :)

Thanks phrozenspite ! Cheers !

Well, the CPPSRB reward system run fine and we just added two more custom difficulties for your workers : 8 and 16.

Now, when you create a worker, you can choose the type: CPU or GPU. Custom difficulties for CPU type are 8 and 16 – for GPU type are 32, 64 or 128.

Even if you have a small power, you are welcome to our pool, everyone should mine in the best conditions with the hardware they have. So, what do you waiting to join us? :D

Hypernova now supports SPDY (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY) for faster website loading..
https://i.imgur.com/SYHDycp.png

I trust you, but I still feel insecure about it. :(

I fixed the font for form inputs so now there is a mixed case font to avoid confusion.

In the same time, we launched the API service for users whose want for example to monitor their workers. We provide a key and a link to a JSON url.

As usual, everybody is free to propose some ideas or fixes, and for those haven't joined us yet, they are free to mine with us :D

Thanks.  :D

24h earnings is now correctly displayed. It's a rollover.
You can now see credits every 30 minutes on the payment page to have an idea of how much LTC mine every 30 minutes.

Tomorrow I'll implement idle workers notification. Stay tuned :)

This pool is on the constant improve! Less than 24-hours ago the admins effectively asked what is the feature we all wanted most and had it finished and in production in no time at all, the API has been running flawlessly since.

Having their own custom built infrastructure gives them this ability to churn out new features and support their site much better than the copy/paste site most pools are using.

For a PPS pool with only 1% fee, you really can't go wrong with Hypernova!

Awesome site design and pool. Is the 24 hours earning the last 24 hours, or does it reset at 0:00. Ideally a chart of earnings per day would be awesome.

Thank you. For your question, it's really the last 24 hours from the time when you check your account. I note the idea for the chart.

Today, later in the day we will migrate to a new server for the front-end because of the restrictions on the current one, which can make some 503 errors because the server is a little overcrowded. Sorry if you experience them, simply reload a few time after. :)

Also, if you ever feel the need to take on another programmer, I'd love to help out :)

Thank you for your support, I have a ton of coders whose proposed help, and that's really nice, I appreciate it. For the moment we want to keep our hands in the engine but if a day we need some help, so I'm sure someone will can give help :D

Would you consider adding graphs for historical hash rate and earnings?

On account side? It's a possibility, we thinking on it actually. Maybe a graph of 24 hours earnings.

Otherwise, the front-end migration is ended and the website is lightning fast now, with no 503. :P

I really like this pool after switching to it. Do you have any plans to set up 2FA for withdraws?

That's not in our plans for the moment, there is already the pin code for that, which is at least a 2 steps verification. You can't change the withdraw address without the pin code.

Otherwise, we added a feature for those who wants to support the Litecoin project and want to give a donation from their withdrawals between 0.5% and 10% (by 0.5% steps). :)

We growing fast, and we have some ideas to enhance the pool in the near future, stay tuned! ;D

I keep getting "stratum disconnect" message every couple of minutes. Is this the network fault or is there something wrong with the pool?

Problem found this was a problem while emptying a table :)

thx. I've pointed 2,5MH/s in your direction. Let's see what happens...

and it's down again :(

and it's up again :)

Switched to this pool yesterday, it's sexy.

Today we've moved to a new server for the back-end. Enjoy !
Patch for the 2nd Stratum vulnerability also applied during the migration.

Just switched to this pool. It makes me wild! :o ::) Fantastic pool!

A few days ago I added support to keep track of your Hypernova mining wallet balances to CryptFolio (http://cryptfolio.com) (thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192423.0)). This helps you keep track of mining pool balances over time, and generates reports (such as your overall USD net worth).

I also added in a new feature to keep track of your mining hash rates as well (still being tested).

Thanks so much soundasleep !

Hiya Soak.

I requested a payout from my balance (I assumed it just sent everything) for 0.10 and it sent me 0.01. I think there may be something wrong with your code.  ;D

nothing wrong the pool code, it says theres a fee of .09 right next to the balance

I think you read wrong.
I clicked the withdraw button.

0.10 account balance
0.01 balance to to my wallet
0.09 account balance (after clicking the withdraw button)

Just tried to withdraw again and it sent me another 0.01.

Nah I read right you didn't mention anything about an account balance in your first post. That might be a problem we'll see what soak and crew say.

Hm.. just saw the .09 fee for ALL withdrawals thing. So apparently it's not being deducted?

Also the actual fee for sending the transaction out is nothing near 0.09 LTC.
 
https://i.imgur.com/oGbzBt6.png

That's the main reason why I won't be sticking with this pool.   :-\

Thanks for the feedback, corrected.

Are you really angry the pool was offering the TX fees if it remained in your balance after withdraw ? :)

I'm not sure about what your screenshot means because you don't talk about the withdrawn amount.

Hope you'll give me more infos about your withdrawns.

Shelves are now ALL paid. Thanks for being with us.

(what about raising a bit the pps rate.. Would it be a nice idea ? :) )

Pure awesome :D (if you do wind up raising it, I suggest you add a separate section so it's like:
PPS: 0.00009001 (+ 0.00000001)
)

Hypernova looks in the future! The pool is now IPv6 enabled for those among you who have such a connection. You can connect through it on Stratum and on the website. :)

Noticed the manual transaction fee was lowered considerably. I am back now.

The previous fee was charged by the network. It was impossible for us to handle it without charging 80% of this network fee to our miners.

It's now okay with the latest litecoind upgrade.

By the way, Soak added a new luck graph on the stats page. Give it a look !

Soak I have read about the CPPSRB payout system, but I dont understand it yet... Can you explain on an example how it works please? And what if someone quits mining in the middle of a block, would he get paid for shares in that round?

 

It's quite simple actually.

Everytime the pool solves a block it is rewarded ~50 LTC (something around that, we won't count tx bonus from block to keep everything simple), right ?
During the time to solve a block, the pool needs to pay its miners because they're hashing to solve that block and we are CPPSRB. In CPPSRB there is "PPS". So, we're paying miners like the classic PPS way : a share is worth a fixed amount (this amount only changes according to the network difficulty).

So, you'll guess that sometimes during unlucky round we'll have to pay more than 50 LTC worth of hashing to only get back 50 LTC reward from the network finally solving a block. That's what we call an unlucky round aka when the pool distribute more than the reward it got for solving a block.
During unlucky rounds, it can happen that the pool don't have any fund anymore to pay its miners : the shares the pool can't pay at the moment are logged in a specific database and we call this "the shelve".

Concerning lucky rounds aka when the pool distributed less than 50 LTC during a round to get a 50 LTC reward (== excess funds), the extra money from that lucky round is used to backpay the shelved earnings from previous unlucky rounds.

There's a third case : if the pool have excess funds from many previous lucky round and there is no shares in the shelf, this excess funds are kept to continue the payouts like a classic PPS during unlucky round. As long as there is excess money.

So, the pool is exactly like a classic PPS when there's enough money in the wallet. It delays payment for further backpay if there is no money.
It continues to act like a PPS pool during unlucky rounds when there's excess funds from previous lucky rounds and no shares in the shelf waiting to be backpaid.

If you don't understand let me know I'll try to explain it one more time in a more simple way :)

There is now the pool luck value in the API for 12h, 24h, 48h, week and lifetime.

GOT IT! Cool thank you! ;)  Really nice and fair system! Should be implemented in more pools...

I'm still pool jumping for research while I build my actual mining rig, but hypernova has been the most stable pool I've run into in the last couple weeks.
Site is clean, instructions were easy to understand.  I was up and running in less than 5min.
You guys are doing a great job.  You'll be seeing me a bit more in the future.   :) 

Thanks for your review ! We always appreciate feedbacks.


I would like to add for those worrying about shelves that when you have shelved earnings, you would have earnt the same amount of money in your balance on a PPLNS pool.
Shelved earnings are more an indicator that says "If we were a PPS pool, you would have earnt this bonus coins to kill variance. We'll anyway give it to you if we are lucky !"

We are about to fully switch everyone to PPS, with a pool fee of 4% (should decrease if possible).
PPS Rate @ diff 1 : 0.00000084 LTC (1% fee) is now 0.00000082 LTC (4% fee)

When ? Tomorrow, the 24th July.

What will happen to the current shelved earnings ? They will be cleared the same way as CPPSRB used to clear the shelved earnings. That means, when we will switch to PPS, you'll continue being paid during bad rounds and your shelved earnings will be backpaid during lucky rounds.
Once the full shelved stack will be cleared, there will be no more shelved earnings. No more.

Will you earn less coin with PPS ? Over a long time with a null variance, yes you'll end up with less coins. Does this mean PPS is shit ? I don't think so. We learnt from our mistakes and CPPSRB isn't for sure an easily understandable reward system. People are used and know well the variance of PPLNS and it's OK. People like the nullvariance of PPS and it's OK. People just don't get the variance involved in CPPSRB as well as PPLNS. That's life.

How will we handle the payouts during the launch of PPS ? That's hard to say, but it's reality : we will use the oldest unwithdrawn funds from our miners. Currently, Hypernova holds about 3300 LTC that fully belong to its miners. We've always been honest at keeping your funds safe and we will continue to do so. That's why we've put since the pool launch a "pool reserve funds" gauge on the account page that is fully working.
A pool like Hypernova needs at least ~1000 || 1500 LTC to fight against the variance of probabilities.
A 4% fee @ 900MH/s should give back to the pool 1400 LTC monthly. So, our unwithdrawn funds will be used for only one month.
Don't worry about payouts. Maybe it's not being said enough but : NEVER KEEP YOUR MONEY FOR A LONG TIME ON A POOL ! A POOL IS NOT A BANK ACCOUNT. WITHDRAWN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE !
This advice is not applied by everyone. Indeed, we see Hypernova's wallet growing from days to days. And it's not related to new miners getting on the pool everyday. Mathematically, we have a good ~10% of our funds that never were withdrawn and it looks like that they'll never be. This is these funds we'll be using to launch the PPS.
That is to say ; I'm sure you all will be able to continue your withdraws. Just be warned you'll start to see the pool reserve gauge going down during the first month.

Thanks for your support, we're always open to debates.

Soak and M0nsieurChat

4% fee? lol. M0nsieurChat Sorry but this is too high, there are pools which offer 3%

This is not a definitive fee. We always played and ensured safety. PPS is a risky reward system for pools. We want to start safely then reduce the fee if needed / possible.

Anyway we had 1% fee to maintain servers. 0% fee is a possibility for CPPSRB/PPLNS or no risky systems (but we need money to maintain the back-end and the nodes).

3% is the minimum for a PPS pool, so 3+1 = 4%. Same as before because the fee of 3% is required to handle the variance but at the end that's the same with a CPPSRB 1% system, because the variance was simply reported to later payout.

I still don't see why you are switching to PPS. You should at least let users vote for what method they would like the pool to use. I love hypernova because it's unique and not another PPS pool.

Because the majority of ours users complain about shelved earnings so the simplest solution for us is to switch to PPS, which is clear for everybody, unless the "high fee" which is needed to "survive" for a PPS pool.

Is it the majority of your users or the majority of the people complaining? I think voting should/would be able to determine where the majority opinion lies.

I vote for CPPSRB, dont change it to PPS.

I see the negative feedbacks there. Let us think and work out a solution.

Hi, i just joined for litecoin mining. My cgminer shows 295kh/s (for 5850) but pool stats shows just 3kh/s. Can anyone expline that please?

I'm currently using hypernova as my primary pool, because I like the CPPSRB method and have so far been happy with the pool performance. Now I visited this topic because I was curious about the shrinking pool reserve, but was surprised to see that the pool had silently switched to PPS. There is no information about this on the website, apart from some small changes on the front page. The help page still says CPPSRB and 1% fee though. Personally, I would like to see the pool returning to CPPSRB.

There are some concerns I have about the pool being PPS at this point; primarily with regard to the reserve. You state that the reserve is currently held entirely by the miners. That is not a proper pool reserve, as many miners will likely start withdrawing if the reserve drops outside of their comfort zone, thus accelerating the depletion of the reserve. In other words, the pool should have its own reserve, on top of what's in the miners' balances.

Given the small pool reserve, I don't think PPS is currently a viable option for this pool. You say that you have 3300 LTC, of which 10% "has never been withdrawn". If we calculate the probability of pool bankruptcy using the "never withdrawn" (300 LTC) balance as reserve, and an effective fee of 3% (since you say 1% goes to server maintenance fees) that gives a 70% risk of eventual bankruptcy. Using the full 3300 LTC as a reserve instead puts the risk at a more acceptable 2%. To limit the risk of bankruptcy to 1% a pool reserve of at least 3800 LTC is required with the fee at 3%.

tl;dr: The switch to PPS was premature and there is currently a very large (70%) risk of pool bankruptcy due to insufficient pool reserve.

PS: Calculations were based on equations found in this paper: https://bitcoil.co.il/pool_analysis.pdf
Example calculations:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=exp%28-2*f*R%2FB%29%2C+R%3D300%2C+f%3D0.03%2C+B%3D50 (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=exp%28-2*f*R%2FB%29%2C+R%3D300%2C+f%3D0.03%2C+B%3D50)
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28B*ln%281%2Fdelta%29%29%2F%282*f%29%2C+B%3D50%2C+delta%3D0.01%2Cf%3D0.03 (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28B*ln%281%2Fdelta%29%29%2F%282*f%29%2C+B%3D50%2C+delta%3D0.01%2Cf%3D0.03)

Fine. This choice wasn't a smart one. We've heard your feedbacks and did a rollback this morning (11AM GMT+1) to CPPSRB with 1% fee.
We learnt from our mistake and won't change the reward system again as it seems CPPSRB is the only one people like !

Enjoy the most stable pool ever !

Soak and M0nsieurChat

That's great .. Thanks to see it back on board.

I suggest that put a big text under the shelved earnings and describe how this amount of balance works for those users that maybe become doubtful when they dont see their balance increase. That hint text could remove many misunderstanding from newbie and noob users.

Glad to see hypernova back on CPPSRB.  I was very disappointed by the change to PPS, and planned to move my (albeit small) hashing power to another pool today.

I suggest: shelved earnings need some way to understand how 'deep' your shelved balance sits.  A chart showing the pool's total shelved earnings and how deep your portions sit in the pool would make the CPPSRB system much easier to understand.  And maybe a few "pool luck required to pay out xx% of your shelved balance" stats - e.g.:

Block probability required to get 10% of shelved balance: 40%
Block probability required to get 25% of shelved balance: 28%
Block probability required to get 50% of shelved balance: 13%
Block probability required to get 75% of shelved balance: 7%
Block probability required to get 90% of shelved balance: <1%
Block probability required to get 100% of shelved balance: >1 block required

These stats would be awesome to have for both per-user and pool-total.  Could graph this as well (correlating luck with what percentage of the shelf will get paid off). 
It might be easier to calculate the reverse, that is:
shelved balance to be paid if next block found at 1% probability: .12LTC
shelved balance to be paid if next block found at 10% probability: .07LTC
shelved balance to be paid if next block found at 20% probability: .05LTC
shelved balance to be paid if next block found at 30% probability: .01LTC
shelved balance to be paid if next block found at 49% probability: .001LTC

For the chart I mentioned, picture a graph with percentage of total shelved earnings from 0% to 100% on the left Y-axis, and block number on the X axis.  Labeled on the right Y axis, have shelved earnings from 0 to <biggest shelved chunk value>, and for each block on the Y axis, show the user amount of earnings required.
Can substitute "block number" with "how many blocks deep in the queue (0-n)", or "percentage deep in the queue (0-100)" depending on how you are internally tracking the CPPSRB shelf payout order.  

CPPSRB causes income to swing greatly with pool luck, so give people as much "luck" information as you can, and it definitely increase the appeal of the system.  You have a good thing already with a seemingly solid hashing base - just add more stats and make everything you can about the payout system transparent.

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Anyway, thank-you Soak and M0nsieurChat for listening to feedback and acknowledging your mistake in switching to PPS.  You guys rock.

I plan to implement more infos on the API side. The people looking at it are smart and will help us out finding the values looking weird. Then why not graphing fancy things / tables on the website (that's Soak's part.)

But there is only ONE need that makes fancy stats like your idea (not exactly yours, I already see a way to do this the easy way) a nightmare for the developper : every miner can choose the difficulty of every of their workers.
A worker difficulty is not locked during the time. It can change from share to share.
So it is not possible to make stats globally on a given bunch of shares of a worker during a specific timeframe. You need to process each share individually before having something that looks good. On MariaDB's table with millions of rows, I'm sure you understand the problem.



Hypernova is currently handling ~3000 queries (including transactions) per second 24h/24 7/7.

So, nothing impossible but we need to do the things the right way !

Dear all,

Today we scheduled a maintenance that went bad on Hypernova.
The purpose of this maintenance was to push the new litecoin daemon in its new version 0.8.3.7
As you may be aware, this new branch of litecoin needs to resync the whole blockchain.
During the blockchain syncing, the network difficulty dropped to something like 0.XXXX and the PPS rate skyrocketed.
Those who were mining during that upgrade within that 2 minutes timeframe experienced a WAY too high balance (we're talking about thousands of LTCs)
The auto withdraw threshold feature perfectly worked. Here is how you empty a pool wallet in seconds.

I'm very sorry about your loss. I decide to stop the Hypernova's adventures here.

If the coins (or part of the coins) are returned by those who received the withdraws, I'll be happy to refund those who ask me in PM or at feedback@hypernova.pw (please tag your subject with [refund] as you guess I'll have many mails within the next days)

If you need another pool, I would totally recommend coinhuntr.

*edited by SaltySpitoon*
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WARNING!!! DO NOT MINE HERE!

Hypernova has stolen/wiped all balances.

Phzi, I was logged on while it was happening. I witnessed my two accounts' (one company, one personal) balances skyrocketing to 1000s of LTC. If you examine their pool address, you'll see the payouts going to addresses they always have been. There was not some massive cleaning to one address, there was not a cleaning to a bunch of new addresses, it was simply gross overpayment to current miners. There are no grounds for your accusation, nor should you be one to be making accusations at all (given your relative unfamiliarity on these forums). I personally trust M0nsieurChat, and professionally trust him (with my business). Hypernova has paid out fairly over my time with them, in fact, better than certain other pools.

please list the account address of those people who steal our all money

Just because I am posting from a new account does not make me new here.  There are plenty of grounds for stating that you wiped all balances... because you DID wipe all balances.  I had a balance on the pool, I was not paid, balance is now 0.  That means they stole balances; period.  Doesn't matter if they lost money due to incompetance or stupidity, they still wiped/stole everyone's balances.

Now please explain how more then 49.5LTC per block went to user balances if this is a CPPSRB pool?  Payouts should have been capped at 49.5 LTC per block and everyone's shelved earnings should have skyrocketed.  That's half the point of using a CPPSRB pool vs a PPS pool, is the payment security.  Please explain that...

My point was that this new account has no reputation to go by. Anyway... You had erroneously assumed that hypernova had moved back to CPPSRB when in fact it was only a plan to move back... The pool was/is still PPS. That is why money was lost.

 There is currently discussion of moving lost balance to shelved and trying to pay back users. There is also talk of potentially just shutting down, though people are leaning away from that option.

What?


Hypernova was definitely supposed to be on a CPPSRB system when this supposedly happened.  And if it was on PPS, then the pool developers/owners should take personable responsibility for all balances, because that's how PPS works...  Either way, this is a huge error that points to multiple problems in the handling of this pool and its software.


There are either multiple serious bugs at work here, or this is deception and fraud. Either way, this is very strong evidence that M0nsieurChat and Soak do not have the knowledge required to be running a mining pool.

Funds should be returned to balances, and withdrawals frozen until this is worked out.  If that does not happen very quickly, we all may as well be sending our hashes to notroll.in.

Keep in mind that the funds that went missing could very well be to M0nsieurChat and/or Soak's own accounts.  Sure there were a bunch of transfers across 3 blocks... what's it to the admins to have multiple accounts in preparation for testing, or with a plan to be devious in the future?

M0nsieurChat: Was this a PPS pool or a CPPSRB pool?  If it was a CPPSRB pool, how did balances inflate beyond what could be paid?

I stand corrected. Either way, the error was with the PPS rate and difficulty, the 49.5 LTC is only calculated and paid out of the pools main address, so if the calculation is wrong, I guess more can be withdrawn.


It was a series of mild bugs and an unexpected repercussion of updating the litecoin client. Much like the airplane that crashed due to a frayed wire, a toilet clog, and unexpected toilet motor behavior, it is a freak event with some mistakes aligning to cause something unprecedented. M0nsieurChat is still much more qualified than many people running pools, a perk of actually being a sysadmin (iirc). Ltc is already being returned from some people. You can choose to believe it's an elaborate scheme by the admins, but it doesn't add up to me and many others.

Hey,

did you seen this? I think maybe it's really time to move on guys!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262029.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262029.0)

M0nsieurChat and me are really sorry for this big mistake. Every miner must received an e-mail with instructions to be refund for the current balances but keep in mind we need honesty of the people mining on the pool to return the money back.

We decided to put all the balances in shelves for later payment if we can. The pool running again as before with CPPSRB and 1% fee.

Why is the pool not finding blocks?  And our balances got 0'd again? WTF?

Look @ your shelved earnings. Regarding your first question.. Nevermind.

Pools have problems that normal. Yes this was a big mistake but these guys re doing there best to make things right they are communicating and giving frequent updates as well as replying to all posts.

No pool can say they have not had problems or made a mistake before if they say that then they are lying the only difference is how it is delt with.

If you guys need any help just let me know!!

Is the pool down right now?

Some days ago i'v got time to upgrade my litecoin client to 0.8.3.7. I Was thinking about what happened to hypernova during this update, so i was wondering if i can regenerate it.
As i noted this version first tried to re-index whole blockchain file.
First picture is when the blockchain was getting updated. as you can see difficulty shows around 0(Zero).
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6642/i7y0.png

Second picture is when the re-index process is finished and you can see difficulty reach it's real value.
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/1366/thfm.png


I posted it as a proof to those users who have doubt about what happened to hypernova.
BTW the effort of admins to make things right is admirable.

pool seems working smooth today  ;D

Pool work? 4 h. there is no change in the balance and shared are accepted.

Sorry for my english.

For the first time sinces monthes, shelves backlog is now fully backpaid. (not including the shelved balances during the last update).

Thanks for miners still mining with us :)

Hello,

That's a long time we not really communicated since the disaster happened to our pool, we was in a redemption time, an asking time too. I know some of you lost a lot and we did what we can to repair our fault. We decided to continue the adventure anyway. Obviously we do all we can to secure the pool more than before to don't make the same errors. I know a lot of people liked Hypernova, and your are still welcome on our pool. That's hard to start off again and we know a lot of you lost their trust in us but if you want to give us a second chance, we're still here.

Hypernova was, and is always a nice project for MrChat and me, and we learned a lot with it. And we will try to give you the same satisfaction you got before. Don't forget to come on #hypernova to say hello again if you want :)

Soak

Hello tell me when it will be paid Shelved earnings

When the pool have lucky rounds (under the green line on the luck graph which is on the Statistics page).

Hypernova now propose new Magic Share contests!

Try to enter the contest by sending shares, and win prizes! You have nothing to do, just register, check a setting to enter the future contests automatically, then mining. When a contest will be proposed, you will participate. More details on the website.

Good luck! ;D

https://hypernova.pw/images/classic/elements/logo.png

Hypernova added (http://vardiff.com/pool/hypernova-pw/) to mining pools database
Good luck, miners

The random disconnection issue is now solved : another stratum node was added to our cluster.

Cheers and thanks for being with us !

why did your pps rate drop from .00000016 to .00000015?

no one?

If the PPS rate dropped, then the Litecoin network difficulty became higher. Simply as that. The PPS rate is calculated dynamically on this value.

And it dropped again today.  Damn all these miners finding all these coins. :-)

Is these somewhere on the site/app that the luck values are actually displayed? I keep seeing that they're in the API values, but I don't see them anywhere else.

hello, for some reason aren't listed to ltc with
shelved earnings. was 8, now 10. the error of payments can at you?

Pool is without miners. It seems closed. Please admin pay the shelved earning.

Is the Pool closed? Site doesn't load...  ???

Indeed. Owners do not respond to messages (at least my messages, even though they are active on this forum), so they must be gone along with all the coins. I suggest Admins consider contacting them and then deciding whether this is a fraud or not.

Comments anyone?

+1.
No reaction to message on "feedback@hypernova.pw".
No refund...nothing... :'(