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Note It has arrived.  Test build is below.

I like this card so much I ordered a second and almost certainly will order a third .

My goal is to have a 3x  Galax katana 1070 plus 1 x founders edition 1080 ti   In a rosewill case  with about 1800-1900 Sols for ZEC and under 600 watts. At about 2.1k for the build.

This will be riser free and should fit in a data center rack.

And not be smoking stupid hot.

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I ordered one and will post review when it arrives.  This is the most powerful single slot gpu available.


http://galaxstore.net/GALAX-GeForce-GTX-1070-KATANA_p_130.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11271/galax-and-kfa2-list-geforce-gtx-1070-katana-a-singleslot-geforce-gtx-1070



http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11271/geforce_gtx_1707_katana_678_678x452.jpg

Still not here ? :)

I ordered it on may 5  it is yet to ship.  Says it is in stock.  I will send them an email later today.

I just emailed them.  I will post back later today.

Where did you buy that?

Last I heard Galax brand GPUs aren't sold in North America.

they have a direct store only purchase

 http://galaxstore.net/


http://galaxstore.net/GALAX-GeForce-GTX-1070-KATANA_p_130.html


this is the only way to buy it in the usa.

My guess is  even though it reads in stock.  The stock may not be in the USA.  
They  wait for  enough people to order it from the USA link  and ship  at that point.

The link and the store are real.

Here is the facebook page for   them in the US

https://www.facebook.com/GalaxyUS/


I did business with them 1 other time...  And   they were slow to ship.

But I can use this size card in  a few of my builds.  So I am willing to wait a bit.  

It is 9 am  In NY  and they are near Chicago  So  maybe they will reply to my email  in a few hours.

It is a paypal order  so I do not have fear of a ripoff in any way.



UPDATE: I got an email response it is expected to ship may 10 via fedex.  I may get it by fri or next monday.

IT shipped will arrive on the 11th.

I will put it in a rig with

 asus strix    1070
msi gamer    1070
galax katana 1070

the board will be an aorus z270

I will slot mount all three cards.

goal  will be 1200-1300 sol/h for zec

using under 400 watts for the three  cards.

Can't wait to see the results on this card :)

If you can keep it cool enough, it will really help increase density in a lot of Nvidia systems that aren't using risers

yeah it should work great on the bioster z170 boards.

I will test it with

strix 1070
msi 1070
katana 1070


1080 ti founders
1080 ti founders
1070 katana

1080 ti msi aero
1080 ti msi aero
1070 katana

the biostar allows 3 cards with a riser

but with the katana 3 cards and no risers should be easy .

If I like the one I will get a second and return another card.

it may allow 4 cards on the biostar z170

in slots open air.

katana 1070
katana 1070
katana 1070
founders 1080 ti

give 1 slot spacing seems wise for this card. I read some reviews from Chinese websites, this card likely does nothing better than 1070FE in cooling. And it's not exactly the blower type as FE, hot air comes out at 1/4 position so definitely will need some spacing. The four slots Biostar boards is a good choice.

Also this is not the first time Galax makes this type single slot card, usually even in China the supply could be limited as it's not as popular.

And it's a heavy card.

Interested in seeing how well this card cools also given it's the blower design with less area to move air through like the FE version. I've seen a few of these at one of my local MicroCenters but never thought much about them since I use risers and had never heard of it, so def interested in your testing results as I'm only building Nvidia 1070/1080/1080ti rigs from now on...

lot of copper in it vs aluminum.

on open air  flat mobo setups like the one below it should be good.


https://i.imgur.com/XKSWKT5.jpg

Okay it is in hand

photos coming

https://i.imgur.com/nXvMjBu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lEHhCl8.jpg

the most powerful  and affordable 1 slot nvidia card in my hand
https://i.imgur.com/rB7aOkB.jpg

and here is a biostar z170 rig

with
Galax 1070 Katana left -------- one slot
Zotac 1080 ti FE center ------- two slot
Aorus 1080 ti right ------------ three slots

lots of room to breath
https://i.imgur.com/9jLPuiY.jpg


loading on msi
https://i.imgur.com/1BkhJKK.jpg

Do you think it would be feasible to stuff 6 Katanas in one of these board you pointed out in the other thread?  Talk about density!

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138439 (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138439)

Getting enough air flow across the cards would be Job 1.

without additional power for the pci slots you will draw all from your atx conenctor and risk to destroy it is very high on the long run if you employ 6 cards....

you are wrong.

Those boards  have run  4 rx 480s   for months with zero issues  it drew 600 watts and used four slots.

the entire three card rig  now draws under 550 watts.

the three cards are using  5 pcie cables  most power is pcie cable

I also have down clocked to 55% tdp  to avoid over heating.

Right now my garage  is pretty hot around 90f

You can see the card is warm as it  runs  at 71 c  with fans set to 75%

note is only doing  314 sols  due to low  tdp of 55%  82 watts 3.83 sols a watt

the middle 1080 ti is doing 522 sols at 55% tdp  142 watts 3.65 sols a watt

and the fat ass aorus is doing 652 sols at 59 %  163 watts 4.00 sols a watt   using 2 8 pin pcie cables


https://i.imgur.com/9Vcd9qQ.jpg

it seems it is not such a good card in terms of cooling ... u have to keep it at lower tdp to not overheat

Don't know yet..

It does have very good sols to   watts.

and it is running with  two 1080  ti's

It is hot spot 92f


  I will take the temp of air


  it will  end up mining in a cooler room.

here is the bottom line  right now  3 card rig is doing 1442 sol  at 385 watts  on software

a five card rx 480  would do  1442 sol at 700-750 watts not flashed and maybe  600 watts flashed.

the space is much smaller  for this rig.  more testing need.

id like to see what 4 of these in a case could do.. speed temps and in a cooled room

Yeah I will do more testing.

Sometimes cards don't mix well.

The setup now is not ideal.

Three different cards. Can make driver conflicts.

little tweak  and big improvements.

boosted power less then 15 watts
https://i.imgur.com/fK6UeRe.jpg

moved tdp from 55 to 65 moved fan to 80%  temps dropped  to 69c   hash is up. sols to watts is better.
https://i.imgur.com/562x2jc.jpg

so the 3 cards are now 1572 sol.

the katana looks good.  69C at 85% fan   384 sol

how hot is your garage?


and I know  you are running  a lot of gear on you pdu 

what are the amps  running this?

what are the amps  with it fully turned off.

7.0 amps all gear running

5.0 amps this rig off.

2 x 240 = 480 watts at pdu.

I am getting 1572  sols   so at the wall 3.275 sols per watt

the katana seems stable at 65% tdp 96-97 software watts about 3.9 sols a watt.

that is a very nice rig size and only a 850 watt quark plat psu which was on sale for 109.

so this compares to a five card rx 480

 1572 sol nvidia ----------------------- 1500 sol amd
    480 watts  -------------------------       740 watts

  a evga 750 p2 will run it ------------ 1000 watt evga p2 will run it
   no risers -----------------------------     5 risers needed
  3 gpus     -----------------------------    5 gpus

lets say mobo ram cpu = same cost.

  3 gpus on sales = 1800                      5 gpus on sale  rx 480's or 580s about 1250
   riser = 0                                           risers = 40
  120 for psu                                        180 psu

  5 bucks  a piece of plywood for mobo                20- 30 dollars for a wood case diy




1925 cost and same for mobo,cpu, ram nvidia


1500 for   and same for mobo,cpu,ram amd

the nvidia are much more dense.
and allow for more hash with same power.

in my case  I would have 5 nvidia rigs using 2400 watts for 7886 sols

I would use 2960 watts  with  4 rigs of amd  giving me about 6000 sols  if I really was good with flashing
I would use 2400 watts with 4 rigs of amd giving me about 6000 sols

so the density and low watts push me towards the nvidia

thats why i want nvidia for those stats you just posted!!

but im going to hold off till vega
if vega flops then im going deep into nvidia they will have a lot of my btc

i was not speaking about your setup but i was refering to the dude  willing to stick 6 katanas without powered risers in a x99 motherboard. i dont think is a good idea. katana ha only 1slot  and will drew also 75w from pcie

Yeah but. They don't pull 75 watts from the slot. 

The entire rig I built has two 1080 ti's and one 1070 katana.

And it pulls 2 amps at the wall. Or 480 watts.

These three cards are not pulling 225 at the slots.

And only 255 at the pcie cables.

I understand that six slots  can't feed that much power but the katana is not pulling 75 watts at the slot.

Tomorrow I rearrange and do three 1070's
  You will see that the rig will do about 350 watts at the wall.

There is no way that 225 of the 350 watts the rig will use is slot based.

What is that program your runing to compare sol/watt.

ewbf    use --pec in the start bat

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1707546.0

it is also the ZEC miner

that katana single slot seems ok. whats the noise level compared to double wides?

i had a single slot HD4850 back in btc mining days, only problem was the heat sink would clog easily with dust  as fins were so finely pitched. i had to pull it once a month or so and blow the thing out from the back towards to fan. had decent filtering on the rig too.

be nice to pack 3 or 4 of those in a matx board in a smallish case with some serious filtered fans. small, cat proof.

Too much gear to tell sound.

I think I am going to order 3  more of these

On its side this case would work

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147232

yeah  four of them on this board would fit easy.

1500-1600 zec machine under 500 watts

https://i.imgur.com/8zGPASG.jpg

The size of that card is amazing. Makes me want to build rigs again. Nice to see you're still at it Phil

well at least  you get some money back for these when you build them ;D





please ignore below


16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

That is a good price on a good case that actually has EIGHT PCI slot openings.

yeah that seems like a nice case. cheap too. maybe throw some deltas in it for serious airflow and its a nice enclosed system with some decent hash.

500 watts for a powerful miner is nice. im power limited at the moment. 1200 watts max and im at 700+ watts now, depending on algo. all amd on eth and dcr here for now.

Installing 7x cards directly in PCI-E on an X99 motherboard is not an issue at all even if the card has one power plug.

I have 7x 1070 Strix directly installed on PCI-E slots on an X99 motherboard, all good.



Great review, keep us updated !

How is that possible?  Aren't those cards double-wides?

Watercooled/Chopped-off DVI ports

Awesome! Picture, please!

is that worth it price wise? 7 custom blocks plus loop and pump/radiator vs another mobo/cpu/ram/ssd? single server psu with two picos could run both i would think.

You can always put the stock coolers back on to resell them.  The water blocks will most likely work with the next gen cards.

Out of respect to philipma1957 and his efforts to share great information with us, i would rather avoid deviating from the main subject of this thread. [Review of Galax 1070 Katana GPU]
I'll just share info which is needed for this thread.
7x 1070's can in fact be plugged directly into a X99 (one's with 7 PCI-E slots) and it will work.      https://i.imgur.com/0Wzr621.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/0Wzr621.jpg)

In the Katan case, it even can be done without modifying the card. Now, the compatibility question has been answered, the new question is heat.

thanks and nice photo.

Awesome. Is that a serial or parallel terminal?

When I see those rigs pictures, it really makes me want to be back to mining. I will look at it, maybe you changed my life, because I am thinking more and more about buying a few rigs after seeing this thread :) !

Me too! I already sort of started again. I broke away when BTC difficulties got way too high and never came back. But I think that is changing

I think I decided to build a four card rig using 3 katana and 1 founders 1080ti (I have a lot of the 1080ti's)

I will use the biostar z170 board I have lots of them

goal will be a 1750 sol rig  in a case  using 500 watts.

I am going to order parts today.

which would be 2 more katana's

and a case. as all the parts are on hand.

I've been looking around for the Katanas.  Is their site you reference below the only way to buy them, currently? 

Yes I just ordered a second one less then 5 minutes ago.
I used paypal  6 months credit.

This is usa store

http://galaxstore.net/GALAX-GeForce-GTX-1070-KATANA_p_130.html

I ordered this case.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147232

Phil can you organize  this 4 card build Idea for us a little better?

Sure

three of these

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11271/geforce_gtx_1707_katana_678_678x452.jpg

one of these a founders  edition 1080 ti

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11180/GTX1080TiCar_678x452.jpg


one of these a rosewill stealth at newegg

https://i.imgur.com/dE5DH9f.png

intake fans 2 maybe 3

https://i.imgur.com/H2B3hA1.png

exhaust fans 2 maybe 3

https://i.imgur.com/n2wx0iF.png

so

3x katana

 http://galaxstore.net/GALAX-GeForce-GTX-1070-KATANA_p_130.html

1x founders

http://galaxstore.net/GALAX-GeForce-GTX-1080-TI-Founders-Edition_p_123.html

1x stealth

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147232&cm_re=rosewill_stealth-_-11-147-232-_-Product

2-3x bgears for intake intake fans

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835132027&cm_re=bgears_120_mm_fan-_-35-132-027-_-Product

2-3x scythe  ultra kaze  exhaust fans

https://www.amazon.com/Scythe-DFS123812H-3000-Ultra-Kaze-120mm/dp/B001JKNMBE/ref=sr_1_1?



and what mobo, ram , cpu, psu

Well it looks like  this build is stopped.  The katana sold out. >:(

I will end up building a 2x katana  with  1 founders 1080 ti.

Mobo  I have  lots of these

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421


ram I have lots of these

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148856&cm_re=ddr4_4gb-_-20-148-856-_-Product

cpu I get better cpus used on ebay

he has a good sale this psu is around 115 with 20% off

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sr2l1-Intel-Core-I5-6400t-6th-Gen-2-2-2-8Ghz-Lga1151-Skylake-s-Mobile-Cpu-/162511617558?

now that  this will be a 3 card build  under 420 watts  for 1450 sols

this psu is good.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-SuperNOVA-220-P2-0750-RX-750W-ATX12V-EPS12V-SLI-Ready-CrossFire-Ready-80-/382026031239?


Note for me  I have everything above except the katana's  and the pc cases  I ended up with 2 katana's  and 2 cases.

I just read your post in the other thread:



 

What's the reasoning behind using different intake and exhaust fans?

the exhaust are a bit stronger  then the intake.

it gives negative pressure in the case.

so in theory  hot air leaves a little better.




Since I have 2 cases on order and enough fans on order. but only 2 katana's

Rather then bitching moaning and groaning about whales buying out the katana's

I will build two  3 card builds.

Katana 1070 +  founders  1080 ti +  founders 1080 ti


should work okay

400 + 650 + 650 = 1700 sol a case  at  450-475 watts.


much better then a six card rx 580 build     at 1850 sol and 900 watts

You sounded so down about it.  I am glad to see you will still do some case builds.

I am down about it because I messaged them in early May  I explained that I would do a thread here.  I wanted a deal  and I misread what he told me.

I read no discount and clicked the facebook message  closed.  I then ordered one card did the thread.  I went back to order 2 or 3 more on the site  and was only able to order 1 unit.  Sold out.

So   I went back to face book messages  and went to send a new message to ask when they come back in stock.

So the facebook messages follow each other  and when I looked at his answer this time I read no discount  for a few.  I realized he said discount for 10

underneath it. So I rushed back in early May and fucked myself.



So I ended up with 2 cards at full price  not 10 with a discount  and I wrote the thread that most likely sold the gear out.

Same thing with the pandaminers.
Although  a made a few dollars on the one I got.  maybe 180-200 bucks.

I really wanted to do the two  3 + 1 build.  If I read his message I would have grabbed the 10 and did three 3 builds

a 3 + 1
a 3 + 1
a 4 + 0


I will settle with two  1 + 2 builds instead. I hope it teaches me to not misread  a message on facebook >:(

So Phil  what is happening here?

Any news on what you will do?

I got messaged from Galax on face book and I  made sure to read it correctly this time.

I may end up getting 4 cards and doing a four card build. ;D

The second card comes Wednesday

The newegg case comes tues
The fans come tues.

The  3rd and 4th cards  I am waiting for a second followup from the message sent today.

 Very good price while it's on sale - my favorite Thermaltake V34 (or the V35 if you prefer top controls) with 8 card slots is usually less than that one.

do you mean this one?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094

and this one?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133179

Doesn't  look like you can fit 4 x 2-slot cards in either of those cases, though. May not need it for this build, but perhaps for the next one

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-cards-reportedly-launching-june-5th-lineup-includes-3-skus-priced-at-599-499-399/ (http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-cards-reportedly-launching-june-5th-lineup-includes-3-skus-priced-at-599-499-399/)

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-vega-specs-leaked-4096-cores-16-gb-hbm2-1600-mhz/ (http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-vega-specs-leaked-4096-cores-16-gb-hbm2-1600-mhz/)

look to be interesting  but power hungry.


Rumored AMD Radeon RX Vega Lineup



Graphics Card--------RX Vega Nova-----------RX Vega Eclipse------RX Vega Core----------RX Vega Pro Duo
GPU-------------------Vega 10 XT--------------Vega 10 XT------------Vega 10 Pro----------2x Vega 10 XT
Process Node---------FinFET-------------------FinFET-----------------FinFET----------------FinFET
Stream Processors---4096---------------------3584------------------4096-----------------8192
Clock Speed----------1.6GHz-----------------~1.5GHz--------------~1.5GHz----------------TBA
Performance----------12.8 TFLOPS----------~12 TFLOLPS---------~10.5 TFLOPs-----------TBA
------------------------25.6 (FP16) TFLOPS--~24 (FP16) TFLOPS--~21 (FP16) TFLOPs----TBA

Memory---------------16-8GB HBM2-----------8GB HBM2-------------8-4GB HBM2------------32-16GB HBM2
Memory Bus-----------2048-bit-----------------2048-bit---------------2048-bit-----------------4096-bit
Bandwidth------------~410GB/s---------------~410GB/s--------------~410GB/s--------------~820GB/s
TDP---------------------275W--------------------275W--------------------275W-------------------TBA

Launch------------------June 5th-----------------June 5th-----------------June 5th----------------TBA


The TDP of 275 watts is bad if true.

Note I will be deleting any more on the NOVA.  As it is 100% speculative and does not belong here.

It also is a two  slot  card               with a TDP of 275
The Galax Katana is a one slot card with a TDP of 165.

This is comparing completely different items.

Hi @philipma1957 ,

there is a similar product in the market,

http://www.kfa2.com/kfa2/graphics-card/kfa2-geforcer-gtx-1070-katana.html (http://www.kfa2.com/kfa2/graphics-card/kfa2-geforcer-gtx-1070-katana.html)

available in germany, but not as cheap as galaxy in the US.

Looking at the pictures (I didn´t get one by myself) the cooling system
seems similar to what I have seen at Quadro 4000 and Quadro K4000
which have nearly the same TDP.

 ;D PanneKopp

looks to be the exact same card.

I would guess it would be 500-550 USD in DE   vs 431 USD (shipping included) in USA   due to VAT

My second card came today  I set rig up.
They come back in stock in 3 weeks in USA.
I am getting more.

The rig works very well.

2 katana 1070
1 asus     1070
1 aorus    1080ti

around 1900 sols for Zcash

under 600 watts at the pdu

the katana use less power then the asus 1070

which is a good thing.

Getting all my Scythe DFS123812H-3000 Ultra Kaze 120mm x 38mm case fans on monday I will post some info.




 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JKNMBE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Still waiting on two more katana gpus.

Maybe June 1.

 I doubt it's viable, since the card exhausts a lot of air out of the side of the card, not all out the back or part back and part top.
 Cooling would be a MAJOR issue.

 kfa and galaxy are the same company, it probably IS the same card with different brand labeling.

 Vega is aimed at the 1080ti, not the 1070.

 THAT power comparison is pretty close, the question is how the performance compares.


 The one that doesn't make a lot of sense is the "Eclipse", unless it's intended to be a way to take Nova GPUs with one bad CU and do something sellable with them.

With skein and other algorithms performing much better returns on Nvidia cards, why are you still mining zcash Phillip? Is it because of the stability?

It is doing skein  at the moment

about 1440 hash rate

3 cards

all 1070

katana slot 1

katana slot 2
 
empty slot 3

asus   slot 4

the fans arrived.

running in a 90 f garage  all cards have good temps

you can watch it here named katana

http://zpool.ca/?address=16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

Awesome! I'm planning to buy a couple of gtx 1080s as the 1080ti are not available here, will probably do skein and zcash, with the recent pump on zcash it got profitable again

I am so heat capped it is amazing how much more gear I can don if heat was not a killer even with the big summer power rates I get.

I will be selling off an Asus 1070 and a msi 1060 and a zotac 1080 is spoken for I am going to my friends place this friday.

i will add 2 katana getting the rig to 4 katana's just because I want to see it run.
I may move this into the solar array as we can do a few more watts there.

 ZEC changed that for a brief while this morning during the spike - it's still up a LOT even now, but I think it fell back behind some of the skein and groetsl coins (intermitantly, those coins are ALL small network hash and tend to bounce around on profitability a LOT).

I bounce from all zec to all skein to some of each.

I guess and do it manually as switching multi-pool software is always chasing the hot coin.

It is also far harder on the gear.

https://i.imgur.com/1JkZBL0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dr6OlkP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/E8Nq7mO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2q1leCd.jpg
those two katanas want the asus to leave them and they want 2 more katanas

https://i.imgur.com/v5Hngmh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GKBrl0B.jpg

Sexy beasts there!

what miner are you using for ZEC?

katana mining eth + dcr

power limit = 75
core = +50
memory = +700
fan auto

eth : 30.5 mh/s
dcr : 303 mh/s

THX

more memory can get high, up to 32 to 33.. but very not stable, with good timing can take up to 33 stable..