Title: scammed by coinman1 Post by: droplock on May 15, 2017, 05:32:42 PM What happened:
i approached him a while ago in order to exchange my cashu vouchers for btc and we traded and all was good , 3 days ago i contacted him again to exchange more cards and he took first cards worth 100$ and suddenly he claims he is having an issue redeeming it ,the issue was that he needs to redeem with an account from same country - not that the cards are used , he asks for some time and i agree to wait because i have traded with him before . 3 days after i poke him (after i poked him many times inbetween) and now he claims codes are used. cashu is not supported in my country and i cant even make an account there which is why i paid him 27% markup for his services and i made that clear to him several times and he just kept saying he is waiting for his guy to make another account , now he is claiming there isnt any other guy and that he has been working alone (contrary to his previous claims) and refuses to take responsibility for the fiasco and expect me to just take his word because he is a muslim. dont know whats the procedure here and didnt want to go and leave negative feedback before we try sort it out but when i talk to him on skype he just changes his story every 5 minutes and whenever i catch him on a lie he gives another story. p.s: just in case anyone wonders yes i did make sure its really him by making him pm in the forums with the btc address that i sent him on skype , we didnt use escrow because he seemed to have some rep and the ammounts and profit margins were too low to make it viable Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911630 Reference links: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1898272.msg18952339#msg18952339 Amount Scammed: 0.04215 BTC Payment Method: Bitcoin PM/Chat Logs: too long to really screenshot , can provide specific parts upon requests Additional Notes: the argument is about the point which is who is responsible for the codes 3 days after i sent them to him , he isnt denying i sent him codes Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: COINMAN1 on May 15, 2017, 06:02:35 PM Yes I still not denay that you didn't send me the code but the problem is I said at the same day that your card is not working at my account don't know why even I am using the same country account but you said that now it your responsibility etc I clearly said that its not working so after you forcing me I said try again so I connected one of my partners and when he came I ask him to redome the card and it shows same problem I ask you again that I am unable to use your card
But you again forces me so I said I will try to make another account and try so it took me 3 days for making an account due to my busy life so today I try to new account and it show me the error that the cards are already used so I don't know how to provide cashu proof but if any expert tell me I will Provide all the proof The question is am I saying you that your card is not working each time ???or not then after three days how can yiy say that I am responsible Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: droplock on May 15, 2017, 06:31:46 PM Yes I still not denay that you didn't send me the code but the problem is I said at the same day that your card is not working at my account don't know why even I am using the same country account but you said that now it your responsibility etc I clearly said that its not working so after you forcing me I said try again so I connected one of my partners and when he came I ask him to redome the card and it shows same problem I ask you again that I am unable to use your card you claimed you getting an error that you need to use the code on an account from saudia arabia , now you claim its used , obviously 2 different errors and someone used the card in the processBut you again forces me so I said I will try to make another account and try so it took me 3 days for making an account due to my busy life so today I try to new account and it show me the error that the cards are already used so I don't know how to provide cashu proof but if any expert tell me I will Provide all the proof The question is am I saying you that your card is not working each time ???or not then after three days how can yiy say that I am responsible Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: COINMAN1 on May 15, 2017, 06:37:41 PM Yes I still not denay that you didn't send me the code but the problem is I said at the same day that your card is not working at my account don't know why even I am using the same country account but you said that now it your responsibility etc I clearly said that its not working so after you forcing me I said try again so I connected one of my partners and when he came I ask him to redome the card and it shows same problem I ask you again that I am unable to use your card you claimed you getting an error that you need to use the code on an account from saudia arabia , now you claim its used , obviously 2 different errors and someone used the card in the processBut you again forces me so I said I will try to make another account and try so it took me 3 days for making an account due to my busy life so today I try to new account and it show me the error that the cards are already used so I don't know how to provide cashu proof but if any expert tell me I will Provide all the proof The question is am I saying you that your card is not working each time ???or not then after three days how can yiy say that I am responsible Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: droplock on May 15, 2017, 06:42:13 PM Yes I still not denay that you didn't send me the code but the problem is I said at the same day that your card is not working at my account don't know why even I am using the same country account but you said that now it your responsibility etc I clearly said that its not working so after you forcing me I said try again so I connected one of my partners and when he came I ask him to redome the card and it shows same problem I ask you again that I am unable to use your card you claimed you getting an error that you need to use the code on an account from saudia arabia , now you claim its used , obviously 2 different errors and someone used the card in the processBut you again forces me so I said I will try to make another account and try so it took me 3 days for making an account due to my busy life so today I try to new account and it show me the error that the cards are already used so I don't know how to provide cashu proof but if any expert tell me I will Provide all the proof The question is am I saying you that your card is not working each time ???or not then after three days how can yiy say that I am responsible Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: Joel_Jantsen on May 15, 2017, 06:54:35 PM So are you guys going to discuss it,try to sort it out after either one opens the scam accusation ? Generally,you're suppose to do that if one of you'll backs out and gives no response. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You can have the same discussions in your private messages. Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: droplock on May 15, 2017, 07:00:55 PM So are you guys going to discuss it,try to sort it out after either one opens the scam accusation ? Generally,you're suppose to do that if one of you'll backs out and gives no response. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i tried discussing with him , he just gives me a different version every 5 minutes and changes his lie as soon as i catch him on the previous , which is why i opened a scam accusationYou can have the same discussions in your private messages. Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: COINMAN1 on May 15, 2017, 07:04:36 PM So are you guys going to discuss it,try to sort it out after either one opens the scam accusation ? Generally,you're suppose to do that if one of you'll backs out and gives no response. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i tried discussing with him , he just gives me a different version every 5 minutes and changes his lie as soon as i catch him on the previous , which is why i opened a scam accusationYou can have the same discussions in your private messages. and know you are here for blackmaling me i think lets leave this to any trusted member here to resolve this issue so i Publicly invite any trusted member to ready this and talk to me and OP and decide whats is the best for us Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: sardasa on May 15, 2017, 07:11:36 PM So are you guys going to discuss it,try to sort it out after either one opens the scam accusation ? Generally,you're suppose to do that if one of you'll backs out and gives no response. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i tried discussing with him , he just gives me a different version every 5 minutes and changes his lie as soon as i catch him on the previous , which is why i opened a scam accusationYou can have the same discussions in your private messages. and know you are here for blackmaling me i think lets leave this to any trusted member here to resolve this issue so i Publicly invite any trusted member to ready this and talk to me and OP and decide whats is the best for us I don't know if I am trusted enough or not but problem with you is that you don't use your own funds for trading/exchanging. You're relying too heavily on your partners which puts you in such a situation always. You're using Stealth PayPal accounts and I am not sure about your other accounts. Only commit to trade for what you can afford to lose. If you were not sure about how to use cashu vouchers then why on earth can't you deny him from this exchange just like I did? Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: COINMAN1 on May 15, 2017, 07:28:49 PM So are you guys going to discuss it,try to sort it out after either one opens the scam accusation ? Generally,you're suppose to do that if one of you'll backs out and gives no response. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i tried discussing with him , he just gives me a different version every 5 minutes and changes his lie as soon as i catch him on the previous , which is why i opened a scam accusationYou can have the same discussions in your private messages. and know you are here for blackmaling me i think lets leave this to any trusted member here to resolve this issue so i Publicly invite any trusted member to ready this and talk to me and OP and decide whats is the best for us I don't know if I am trusted enough or not but problem with you is that you don't use your own funds for trading/exchanging. You're relying too heavily on your partners which puts you in such a situation always. You're using Stealth PayPal accounts and I am not sure about your other accounts. Only commit to trade for what you can afford to lose. If you were not sure about how to use cashu vouchers then why on earth can't you deny him from this exchange just like I did? so the question is who is responsible for the vouchers so my answer is i clearly said that the vouchers are not working for me on saudi arabian account so it means that he give me wrong details and if i am unable to use that vouchers to saudi arabian accounts and he said vouchers are from saudi arabia then how can i use that vouchers ?? But he know the realty that where the vouchers actually from and he use it and now he came here for blackmaling me Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: droplock on May 15, 2017, 07:38:18 PM the previous time we traded you also said cards didnt work for you and after 2 hours they work by miracle , i think you or your partner just have no clue on how to redeem cashu vouchers and somewhere along the road you gave the codes to someone who used it.
also watch this : http://imgur.com/a/vRt9e if you read the highlighted bit you see him saying there is no other guy , but when i confronted him about him mentioning another guy suddenly he changes his story Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: COINMAN1 on May 15, 2017, 07:44:38 PM the previous time we traded you also said cards didnt work for you and after 2 hours they work by miracle , i think you or your partner just have no clue on how to redeem cashu vouchers and somewhere along the road you gave the codes to someone who used it. yes you are just posting 1 msg screenshot and we have thousands of msgs so batter to post all the msgs or i post it also watch this : http://imgur.com/a/vRt9e if you read the highlighted bit you see him saying there is no other guy , but when i confronted him about him mentioning another guy suddenly he changes his story i said that there is no other guy who have voucher details i have 1 saudiarabian account that is in use by my sister and 1 have my partner and i created new account today so total i have 3 accounts so i tried your vouchers on that 2 accounts that day and it is not working and today i tried on this account and it says that the card is already used Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: droplock on May 15, 2017, 10:47:37 PM and you continue with lying and changing your story , now you changed your feedback on my profile that i sell codes that stop working - even though your version is that the code is used ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: COINMAN1 on May 15, 2017, 10:57:50 PM and you continue with lying and changing your story , now you changed your feedback on my profile that i sell codes that stop working - even though your version is that the code is used ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? You send me voucher and I didn't use it only you and I have access to that vouches so it means that you use it or sell it to anyone else if you didn't do that then I am 100% sure they are carded or something like that because how a vouchers is showing that it is not working if you are using sane country accountThere is something wrong and I am sure about it Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: droplock on May 15, 2017, 11:03:52 PM and you continue with lying and changing your story , now you changed your feedback on my profile that i sell codes that stop working - even though your version is that the code is used ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? You send me voucher and I didn't use it only you and I have access to that vouches so it means that you use it or sell it to anyone else if you didn't do that then I am 100% sure they are carded or something like that because how a vouchers is showing that it is not working if you are using sane country accountThere is something wrong and I am sure about it and the funny part is you keep contradicting yourself , on one place you say the card is used and on another place you say that the cards stop working - make up your mind which lie to want to stick to! Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: COINMAN1 on May 15, 2017, 11:27:01 PM and you continue with lying and changing your story , now you changed your feedback on my profile that i sell codes that stop working - even though your version is that the code is used ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? You send me voucher and I didn't use it only you and I have access to that vouches so it means that you use it or sell it to anyone else if you didn't do that then I am 100% sure they are carded or something like that because how a vouchers is showing that it is not working if you are using sane country accountThere is something wrong and I am sure about it and the funny part is you keep contradicting yourself , on one place you say the card is used and on another place you say that the cards stop working - make up your mind which lie to want to stick to! 1st is you just used the card your self or you sell it to anyone else and he use it Or 2nd is you are using some kind of hacked vouchers or something like carded etc so that once they understand what's going on they just block that cashu card. This is because I really didn't use it and only you and I have access to that voucher and you are saying that you too didn't use or sell it to anyone else then how's possible that we both didn't use it and voucher just stop working This is only possible if you use any illegal method Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: playerbtc on May 16, 2017, 04:09:20 AM I did 2 transactions ($100 each) with COINMAN1 and i can say he is trusted. I sent him BTC first. However, he was almost 45 minutes late to compleate the deal. But i never say he is a scammer, i hope you guys solve this problem asap.
good luck. Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: KenR on May 16, 2017, 04:26:42 AM I did 2 transactions ($100 each) with COINMAN1 and i can say he is trusted. I sent him BTC first. However, he was almost 45 minutes late to compleate the deal. But i never say he is a scammer, i hope you guys solve this problem asap. I cannot trust somebody you can or you do.That's how the trust system should work.45 minutes late in completing a transaction is not a sign of good trade either.DT has already tagged the account.And that's a nice warning sign for everybody now.good luck. Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: COINMAN1 on May 16, 2017, 05:46:11 AM I allread announced everyone that if any trusted member will please come here and resolve this issue that will be great
This is because we can't solve this matter by our self I am ready to provide every chat screenshot and if needed via teamviewer too . So please help me I didn't scam anyone here Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: sardasa on May 16, 2017, 09:51:22 AM I allread announced everyone that if any trusted member will please come here and resolve this issue that will be great This is because we can't solve this matter by our self I am ready to provide every chat screenshot and if needed via teamviewer too . So please help me I didn't scam anyone here Can't you guys contact cashu support and ask them what happened with this voucher? If it has been redeemed or is not working because it's being applied in wrong country's account? Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: droplock on May 17, 2017, 03:13:18 PM are any mod or something going to reply here or contribute to the case?
Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: COINMAN1 on May 17, 2017, 03:23:34 PM are any mod or something going to reply here or contribute to the case? I am also waiting the same any trusted member please response and help us to solve this issue I will show every little screen shot of our chat and every single details. And if necessary with team viewer too or if needed I will also provide my login details and If you decide the problem is because of Me I am ready to pay back And droplock I don't even want to scamm you and you know that we already traded for much bigger amount then this Its only fucking 73$ right??? So all I want a fare decision on this problem and only trusted member can do this Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: sardasa on May 17, 2017, 04:17:49 PM are any mod or something going to reply here or contribute to the case? No, disputes are NOT moderated on this forum.You are on your own. Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: droplock on May 17, 2017, 05:18:48 PM @coinman1 do you agree on having sardasa act as a judge in this case?
Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: COINMAN1 on May 17, 2017, 06:09:37 PM @coinman1 do you agree on having sardasa act as a judge in this case? yes i am 100% agree please ask sardasa is he ready to give use some of his timeTitle: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: droplock on May 19, 2017, 07:03:09 PM as sardasa judged , coinman1 is to transfer 50% of the disputed ammount as he is talking half the responsibility of what happened , i agree that responsibility will be shared and all my claims will be nulled as soon as he transfers 36.5$ in btc to my address : 36GDZHsERpYZqUuVEzebW7q3ZYFpDLW7W8
Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: COINMAN1 on May 19, 2017, 07:05:00 PM as sardasa judged , coinman1 is to transfer 50% of the disputed ammount as he is talking half the responsibility of what happened , i agree that responsibility will be shared and all my claims will be nulled as soon as he transfers 36.5$ in btc to my address : 36GDZHsERpYZqUuVEzebW7q3ZYFpDLW7W8 ok i am sending you 36.5$ BTCYour BTC send https://blockchain.info/tx/baa9084f4da1dddd2c09ce147d5e8a8a23497297339c5e93e96b993777d41106 Sorry for this problem and you know this is not because of me Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: droplock on May 19, 2017, 07:43:22 PM ok coinman transfered the btc , all my claims against him are answered and withdrawn
Title: Re: scammed by coinman1 Post by: COINMAN1 on May 19, 2017, 07:49:53 PM ok coinman transfered the btc , all my claims against him are answered and withdrawn Thanks Sardasa for this and giving us some time of you life |