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Title: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: OmegaStarScream on May 16, 2017, 01:08:04 PM The hackers are reportedly demanding a ransom in exchange for not publishing the movie. Iger said hackers had stolen the film and are demanding to be paid in Bitcoin.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4508842/Hackers-steal-new-Pirates-Caribbean-movie.html#ixzz4hFMRfFIi Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: frischtot on May 16, 2017, 01:19:14 PM Just heard, also WD are saying they won't give in to the demands. If that's so I'll gladly torrent this one, even though I've never seen a single one of the franchise before. They whole industry needs to be thought a lesson. They've been insanely greedy and lazy the past decade.
Too much BTC related hacking events this week however. Shows crypto in a bad light. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: GreenBits on May 16, 2017, 01:22:17 PM The hackers are reportedly demanding a ransom in exchange for not publishing the movie. Iger said hackers had stolen the film and are demanding to be paid in Bitcoin. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4508842/Hackers-steal-new-Pirates-Caribbean-movie.html#ixzz4hFMRfFIi First OTNB, now this? The hacking is getting bold people, guys tend not to realize they usually catch hackers, although it does take a while. They don't give too many fucks about exchanges getting hacked, but hack a tax paying corporation, and this is bloody murder. Wondering if North Korea did this. Preliminary reports on the WannaCry exploit suggest NK might be the actor behindnit. This fits the MO, the did this with Sony concerning that movie about Kim Jong. Definitely not Russia for once, they got hit the hardest, I hear. Eventually, we will realize as a global society how important cyber security is. Until then, this ;) Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: mindrust on May 16, 2017, 01:25:09 PM Who cares? It will be on the piratebay eventually whether they release it before its premiere or not. I also don't think there is a real hype for this movie at all. It is a light popcorn movie and people who wait for it will most likely see it in a cinema rather than downloading it from the pirate bay.
WD won't pay them, still a nice try though. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: CataloniaFM on May 16, 2017, 01:26:49 PM Thus, bitcoin helps hackers make a profit. Maybe I can master such a difficult profession ???
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: buenav on May 16, 2017, 01:28:02 PM Thus, bitcoin helps hackers make a profit. Maybe I can master such a difficult profession ??? You might want to rethink that, the majority of hackers get caught eventually. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: GreenBits on May 16, 2017, 01:31:06 PM Who cares? It will be on the piratebay eventually whether they release it before its premiere or not. I also don't think there is a real hype for this movie at all. It is a light popcorn movie and people who wait for it will most likely see it in a cinema rather than downloading it from the pirate bay. WD won't pay them, still a nice try though. The amount of revenue they will lose, will be tremendous. They just spent an ungodly amount of money producing this movie, fueling JD's drug habit. That's a big drug habit, he hasn't been sober since 'Fear and Loathing'. The bottom line got severely fucked with this one. I agree, this is a snore fest, but kids and overseas.markets eat this shit up. Our domestic market may prefer to see it in theaters, but the international community cares not. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: gentlemand on May 16, 2017, 01:47:26 PM Just heard, also WD are saying they won't give in to the demands. If that's so I'll gladly torrent this one, even though I've never seen a single one of the franchise before. They whole industry needs to be thought a lesson. They've been insanely greedy and lazy the past decade. If they spend several hundred million dollars creating something then they should really be rewarded for that. Unfashionable I know. I'm quite surprised the film industry is still holding up as well as it is. Films like this can't be created out of thin air. If it did go the same way as the music business then all we'd have to watch would be youtube vloggers whining about their makeup issues. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: warrior333 on May 16, 2017, 02:03:10 PM Who cares? It will be on the piratebay eventually whether they release it before its premiere or not. I also don't think there is a real hype for this movie at all. It is a light popcorn movie and people who wait for it will most likely see it in a cinema rather than downloading it from the pirate bay. WD won't pay them, still a nice try though. The amount of revenue they will lose, will be tremendous. They just spent an ungodly amount of money producing this movie, fueling JD's drug habit. That's a big drug habit, he hasn't been sober since 'Fear and Loathing'. The bottom line got severely fucked with this one. I agree, this is a snore fest, but kids and overseas.markets eat this shit up. Our domestic market may prefer to see it in theaters, but the international community cares not. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Arcteryx on May 16, 2017, 02:05:56 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1920248
Why is this in society and politics again? :-[ Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Slow death on May 16, 2017, 02:15:46 PM Thus, bitcoin helps hackers make a profit. Maybe I can master such a difficult profession ??? Ha ha ha Study hard to become a big criminal and FBI will one day knock on the door of your house to show you your new home, jail. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1920248 Why is this in society and politics again? :-[ If you do not agree, just report it to a moderator. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Nathan047 on May 16, 2017, 04:10:34 PM I heard that there was a huge outbreak of ransomware lately. Apparently they really hit Hollywood and a British hospital hard. To bad it’s so hard to stop a cyber criminal (at least a skilled one anyway).
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: JGoRed on May 16, 2017, 04:22:58 PM ...and the FBI advises that they pay the ransom. There seems to be no other way to stop these theives :(
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Arcteryx on May 16, 2017, 04:43:47 PM ...and the FBI advises that they pay the ransom. There seems to be no other way to stop these theives :( It is probably from their own CIA and NSA hacking toolkits that were from WannaCry Ransomware attacks. ::)http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/05/15/the_wannacry_ransomware_attack_has_only_made_about_55_000_for_the_hackers.html Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: HAARP on May 16, 2017, 07:09:53 PM I would definitely download it.
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: maku on May 16, 2017, 07:42:40 PM Who cares? It will be on the piratebay eventually whether they release it before its premiere or not. I also don't think there is a real hype for this movie at all. It is a light popcorn movie and people who wait for it will most likely see it in a cinema rather than downloading it from the pirate bay. Well, it is a huge deal. All movies are eventually pirated and can be found online. WD won't pay them, still a nice try though. But it is 'natural' process, first you have only access to poor copy, shaky cam version of the picture recorded at the movies. Next you have DVD rip and eventually Blue-Ray rip version - usually takes months for BRRip to be released. If hacked version of the movie is good enough it might significantly decrease box office earnings. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: coolcoinz on May 16, 2017, 08:15:32 PM If they spend several hundred million dollars creating something then they should really be rewarded for that. Unfashionable I know. I'm quite surprised the film industry is still holding up as well as it is. They can be created out of thin air. Some of those movies including the pirates are so packed with CGA that less than half of it are the actual shots and play. The rest was made in a studio by a bunch of graphics. Mainstream movies are going to shit these days. Films like this can't be created out of thin air. If it did go the same way as the music business then all we'd have to watch would be youtube vloggers whining about their makeup issues. I'm also amazed that the industry is holding up with the millions they're paying each of the actors and the amount of torrent downloads each of these movies have. I stopped going to the cinema long ago, about the time when I got the Internet. ;) Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: mariahronny on May 16, 2017, 08:20:26 PM I still don't support the use of bitcoin for blackmailling and i hope the perpetrators would be caught.
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: GreenBits on May 16, 2017, 10:14:43 PM A word to the wise as well; I don't tend to download these leaked files unless I can find a streaming service that has them. The reason? The file was obtained through subterfuge, I don't trust that the source file doesn't have some new and exotic virus thats going to take my bitcoin and encrypt my files. Hackers know people are greedy. What better way to mass propogate a new virus, than attaching it to a piece of leaked, popular media? ;)
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: aeternus on May 16, 2017, 10:48:00 PM The hackers are reportedly demanding a ransom in exchange for not publishing the movie. Iger said hackers had stolen the film and are demanding to be paid in Bitcoin. Someone is willing to see a movie like this? Most of the time sequels suck and this is the fifth movie which mean it is going to suck, just look at star wars movies and the recent awful movies they produced just to make money.Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4508842/Hackers-steal-new-Pirates-Caribbean-movie.html#ixzz4hFMRfFIi Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: TheCoinGrabber on May 17, 2017, 01:44:21 AM Just heard, also WD are saying they won't give in to the demands. If that's so I'll gladly torrent this one, even though I've never seen a single one of the franchise before. They whole industry needs to be thought a lesson. They've been insanely greedy and lazy the past decade. If they spend several hundred million dollars creating something then they should really be rewarded for that. Unfashionable I know. I'm quite surprised the film industry is still holding up as well as it is. Films like this can't be created out of thin air. If it did go the same way as the music business then all we'd have to watch would be youtube vloggers whining about their makeup issues. Agreed. GOT for example, I heard spend at least a million per episode, with all the green screen and travelling to various locations for filming (almost all of Dany's outdoor scenes were shot in Morocco). Nothing is ever truly free. Just imagine if every single film would be pirated before release, no one would be making films anymore and we'd be reduced to watching Youtubers pet their cat. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: gabmen on May 18, 2017, 10:40:34 AM they probably wouldn't get what they're asking for but hey even if they release it, a lot of people would still want to watch this in movie theaters. i've been a fan of this franchise from the beginning and I wiuldn't even think about wstching it on my laptop first
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Nathan047 on May 18, 2017, 02:37:41 PM they probably wouldn't get what they're asking for but hey even if they release it, a lot of people would still want to watch this in movie theaters. i've been a fan of this franchise from the beginning and I wiuldn't even think about wstching it on my laptop first Yea, most anybody who would pirate the movie before it was released would probably just pirate it later; regardless of whether it was released by the hackers or not. Everybody else would probably just buy/watch it legally.Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: bryant.coleman on May 18, 2017, 02:50:09 PM they probably wouldn't get what they're asking for but hey even if they release it, a lot of people would still want to watch this in movie theaters. i've been a fan of this franchise from the beginning and I wiuldn't even think about wstching it on my laptop first A lot of the people would still watch it, but even if 30% of the potential viewers decide against doing so, then the losses are going to be massive. Jerry Bruckheimer took a massive risk, by producing this move alone (he is not even a billionaire). It is having a budget of around $400 million, and if the viewership figures are affected, then he is going to take a major hit. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: JGoRed on May 18, 2017, 02:50:55 PM Does nobody find it funny that hackers are potentially going to pirate a pirate movie ;D
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Malsetid on May 18, 2017, 03:42:14 PM Does nobody find it funny that hackers are potentially going to pirate a pirate movie ;D LOL. That's about as redundant as it can get dude right :D Hopefully if won't affect the sales of the film that much if in case the hackers really releases the movie ahead of time. Though I think this is the last installment of PotC and they probably have raked several millions with the previous installments already for this to hurt that much. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: LLec on May 18, 2017, 10:01:12 PM they probably wouldn't get what they're asking for but hey even if they release it, a lot of people would still want to watch this in movie theaters. i've been a fan of this franchise from the beginning and I wiuldn't even think about wstching it on my laptop first http://fossbytes.com/pirates-of-the-caribbean-leaked-torrent-site/ That dark overlord. :( Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2017, 12:31:45 AM https://gomovies.to/movies/library/P/8
8) Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Sithara007 on May 19, 2017, 04:11:37 AM How did they managed to get hold of the high-definition print? Check this:
https://fossbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/hackers-dump-pirates-of-the-caribbean-on-pirate-sites-ahead-of-premiere-515778-3.png The torrent links were taken down after a few hours, but many thousands had already downloaded the movie by then. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: freedomno1 on May 19, 2017, 11:53:18 AM How did they managed to get hold of the high-definition print? Check this: https://fossbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/hackers-dump-pirates-of-the-caribbean-on-pirate-sites-ahead-of-premiere-515778-3.png The torrent links were taken down after a few hours, but many thousands had already downloaded the movie by then. Arr it seems we be pirating now, a lot of people have certainly acquired the Booty. That said I think it wasn't the authentic release yet still but the times have moved on....to Kodi when it's their its real ^^. (The truth guardian plays it one way reality is different ^^) https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/shortcuts/2017/may/17/message-to-pirates-of-the-caribbean-hackers-piracy-no-longer-pays - One minute Hollywood are telling me not to watch pirate movies, the next they are encouraging me to go and see the latest Pirates of the Caribbean film. Make your minds up. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: matuson on May 19, 2017, 12:06:49 PM I certainly do not support the actions of hackers, but I like the opportunity to watch a new film free. Manufacturers prey on our money, and hackers prey on their money. It is a war in which civilians do not suffer, but rather receives dividends.
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: MintCondition on May 19, 2017, 12:21:40 PM How did they managed to get hold of the high-definition print? Check this: https://fossbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/hackers-dump-pirates-of-the-caribbean-on-pirate-sites-ahead-of-premiere-515778-3.png The torrent links were taken down after a few hours, but many thousands had already downloaded the movie by then. Arr it seems we be pirating now, a lot of people have certainly acquired the Booty. That said I think it wasn't the authentic release yet still but the times have moved on....to Kodi when it's their its real ^^. (The truth guardian plays it one way reality is different ^^) https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/shortcuts/2017/may/17/message-to-pirates-of-the-caribbean-hackers-piracy-no-longer-pays - One minute Hollywood are telling me not to watch pirate movies, the next they are encouraging me to go and see the latest Pirates of the Caribbean film. Make your minds up. I doubt that the movie is authentic since the hacker gave an ultimatum that he will upload it partially so that WD will know that he really holding a copy of it. The file uploaded in torrent are in full movie since it almost 700mb in size. Maybe it is just a random movie and rename to Pirates of the Caribbean after hearing the news regarding on extortion. If this is legit, There are many leaked videos now uploaded on facebook and it will be a breaking news. ;D Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Proton2233 on May 19, 2017, 02:41:25 PM I am not at all concerned about video piracy. I often use for myself, pirated software and watching pirated movies. It helps me to save my money which do not have. Maybe the copyright owners is easier to revise the price of the license to remove it was not profitable to open access to their products.
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: darkangel11 on May 19, 2017, 09:57:12 PM I am not at all concerned about video piracy. I often use for myself, pirated software and watching pirated movies. It helps me to save my money which do not have. Maybe the copyright owners is easier to revise the price of the license to remove it was not profitable to open access to their products. Don't try to justify stealing with lack of money. We aren't talking about food or other necessities here, but entertainment. What would you do if I came to your house and took your computer because it would help me save some money? Also you are not concerned with it because you haven't put time and money into a product that ends up being stolen. I have used torrents, not denying it, but at least I'm not trying to make up stupid explanations.Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Lancusters on May 19, 2017, 10:43:07 PM Why retarded explanation? How much license the movie? In the cinema the screen is big and the sound is good, and what's on the disc. It should cost pennies. Of course there will be no such revenues in the hundreds of millions of dollars, but that's greed. Now don't get anything.
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: aeternus on May 20, 2017, 02:23:20 AM I am not at all concerned about video piracy. I often use for myself, pirated software and watching pirated movies. It helps me to save my money which do not have. Maybe the copyright owners is easier to revise the price of the license to remove it was not profitable to open access to their products. Don't try to justify stealing with lack of money. We aren't talking about food or other necessities here, but entertainment. What would you do if I came to your house and took your computer because it would help me save some money? Also you are not concerned with it because you haven't put time and money into a product that ends up being stolen. I have used torrents, not denying it, but at least I'm not trying to make up stupid explanations.Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: criptix on May 20, 2017, 03:16:48 AM How did they managed to get hold of the high-definition print? Check this: https://fossbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/hackers-dump-pirates-of-the-caribbean-on-pirate-sites-ahead-of-premiere-515778-3.png The torrent links were taken down after a few hours, but many thousands had already downloaded the movie by then. Arr it seems we be pirating now, a lot of people have certainly acquired the Booty. That said I think it wasn't the authentic release yet still but the times have moved on....to Kodi when it's their its real ^^. (The truth guardian plays it one way reality is different ^^) https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/shortcuts/2017/may/17/message-to-pirates-of-the-caribbean-hackers-piracy-no-longer-pays - One minute Hollywood are telling me not to watch pirate movies, the next they are encouraging me to go and see the latest Pirates of the Caribbean film. Make your minds up. The guardian article describes the situation pretty well. Nowadays you pay 10$ per month and can watch/hear pretty much everything without limit. The time for pirating music and movies is over. The handful of people doing it are either kids with no money or they are doing it out of ideology. Btw. Above user is totaly correct: digital piracy != stealing Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: crwth on May 20, 2017, 08:22:13 AM The hackers are reportedly demanding a ransom in exchange for not publishing the movie. Iger said hackers had stolen the film and are demanding to be paid in Bitcoin. Probably, that's going to be another bad thing that cryptocurrencies would have to offer. I think it's not cool that people tend to steal and hack studios that made something that was made of blood and sweat of producers, actors, etc, imagine if you were one of the big people there that worked hard on it, do you think it's fair?Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4508842/Hackers-steal-new-Pirates-Caribbean-movie.html#ixzz4hFMRfFIi Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Nathan047 on May 20, 2017, 05:25:38 PM Why retarded explanation? How much license the movie? In the cinema the screen is big and the sound is good, and what's on the disc. It should cost pennies. Of course there will be no such revenues in the hundreds of millions of dollars, but that's greed. Now don't get anything. Greed? Nope. Do you know how much it costs to make a movie? Answer: a lot.If everybody got the movie for free (or for pennies, unless it’s a lot of pennies) the film companies would go out of business and there would be no more movies. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: JGoRed on May 20, 2017, 05:48:47 PM I certainly do not support the actions of hackers, but I like the opportunity to watch a new film free. Manufacturers prey on our money, and hackers prey on their money. It is a war in which civilians do not suffer, but rather receives dividends. No, it's not a war. Manufacturers make the product and some hackers steal from the manufacturers. You help steal if you torrent movies for free.Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Lancusters on May 20, 2017, 10:38:16 PM I certainly do not support the actions of hackers, but I like the opportunity to watch a new film free. Manufacturers prey on our money, and hackers prey on their money. It is a war in which civilians do not suffer, but rather receives dividends. No, it's not a war. Manufacturers make the product and some hackers steal from the manufacturers. You help steal if you torrent movies for free.Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Sithara007 on May 21, 2017, 05:57:48 AM I certainly do not support the actions of hackers, but I like the opportunity to watch a new film free. Manufacturers prey on our money, and hackers prey on their money. It is a war in which civilians do not suffer, but rather receives dividends. No, it's not a war. Manufacturers make the product and some hackers steal from the manufacturers. You help steal if you torrent movies for free.The vast majority of the torrent downloads occur after the movie is removed from the theaters. And most of the leechers can't afford the Blu-Ray and DVD discs of the movie. So even if the torrent downloads are prevented, it is not going to help the producers. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: freedomno1 on May 21, 2017, 06:08:29 AM I certainly do not support the actions of hackers, but I like the opportunity to watch a new film free. Manufacturers prey on our money, and hackers prey on their money. It is a war in which civilians do not suffer, but rather receives dividends. No, it's not a war. Manufacturers make the product and some hackers steal from the manufacturers. You help steal if you torrent movies for free.The vast majority of the torrent downloads occur after the movie is removed from the theaters. And most of the leechers can't afford the Blu-Ray and DVD discs of the movie. So even if the torrent downloads are prevented, it is not going to help the producers. It does depend sometimes people don't want to pay for the DVD if they think it's not worth it to High-Res or Rent it in the physical form and just watch it online on lower res. It's why Blockbuster went the way of the dinosaur and other similar physical DVD locations. If people like it they may move towards the merchandise related to the movie but avoid the DVD's. A pirates of the Caribbean blanket has utility and re usability ^^. In fact if they added bonus items with DVD releases sales would rise. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: joebrook on May 21, 2017, 01:38:51 PM Releasing the movie early is going to hurt the earnings of the movie because people will not be that psyched to see it after watching it. But it will only harm their profits by a small margin.
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: TheCoinGrabber on May 22, 2017, 01:53:12 AM How did they managed to get hold of the high-definition print? Check this: https://fossbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/hackers-dump-pirates-of-the-caribbean-on-pirate-sites-ahead-of-premiere-515778-3.png The torrent links were taken down after a few hours, but many thousands had already downloaded the movie by then. Arr it seems we be pirating now, a lot of people have certainly acquired the Booty. That said I think it wasn't the authentic release yet still but the times have moved on....to Kodi when it's their its real ^^. (The truth guardian plays it one way reality is different ^^) https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/shortcuts/2017/may/17/message-to-pirates-of-the-caribbean-hackers-piracy-no-longer-pays - One minute Hollywood are telling me not to watch pirate movies, the next they are encouraging me to go and see the latest Pirates of the Caribbean film. Make your minds up. The guardian article describes the situation pretty well. Nowadays you pay 10$ per month and can watch/hear pretty much everything without limit. The time for pirating music and movies is over. The handful of people doing it are either kids with no money or they are doing it out of ideology. Btw. Above user is totaly correct: digital piracy != stealing I agree that pirates would probably not earn any money in countries where internet access is widespread. People can just download it on their devices without needing to buy a bootleg DVD. This might still affect the quality of the films though. If bootleg was released before official theater release, it might also affect income. Even if happen after the theater release, this means the producer would be losing income since people won't be paying to watch it on digital. I wonder if social pressure can be used against this. Like, people who watched at theater or paid for it on sites like Youtube would be getting something they can advertise to show that they are not pirates? I certainly do not support the actions of hackers, but I like the opportunity to watch a new film free. Manufacturers prey on our money, and hackers prey on their money. It is a war in which civilians do not suffer, but rather receives dividends. That a rather novel way of looking at it. Pirates still earn a lot here in my country were not everyone have internet access. They download the movie online and mass produce DVD for selling. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: JGoRed on May 22, 2017, 04:13:08 PM We do not help to steal. Yes, we do watch movies for free, but agree needs to be a complete idiot to be able to watch the movie for free and unsubscribe. I do not know these people are not downloading the torrent files. Many simply do not want to admit it. Yes you do are, you are take something without paying for it. That's no less stealing than taking things off Walmart shelves without paying for it.The vast majority of the torrent downloads occur after the movie is removed from the theaters. And most of the leechers can't afford the Blu-Ray and DVD discs of the movie. So even if the torrent downloads are prevented, it is not going to help the producers. I'm sure that at least a good amount of people who pirate a movie would end up watching it legally if they didn't pirate it. It does hurt the companies. Also, being poor isn't an excuse to steal.Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: JemmaColin on May 22, 2017, 04:45:37 PM We do not help to steal. Yes, we do watch movies for free, but agree needs to be a complete idiot to be able to watch the movie for free and unsubscribe. I do not know these people are not downloading the torrent files. Many simply do not want to admit it. Yes you do are, you are take something without paying for it. That's no less stealing than taking things off Walmart shelves without paying for it.The vast majority of the torrent downloads occur after the movie is removed from the theaters. And most of the leechers can't afford the Blu-Ray and DVD discs of the movie. So even if the torrent downloads are prevented, it is not going to help the producers. I'm sure that at least a good amount of people who pirate a movie would end up watching it legally if they didn't pirate it. It does hurt the companies. Also, being poor isn't an excuse to steal.Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: aeternus on May 27, 2017, 01:54:35 AM We do not help to steal. Yes, we do watch movies for free, but agree needs to be a complete idiot to be able to watch the movie for free and unsubscribe. I do not know these people are not downloading the torrent files. Many simply do not want to admit it. Yes you do are, you are take something without paying for it. That's no less stealing than taking things off Walmart shelves without paying for it.The vast majority of the torrent downloads occur after the movie is removed from the theaters. And most of the leechers can't afford the Blu-Ray and DVD discs of the movie. So even if the torrent downloads are prevented, it is not going to help the producers. I'm sure that at least a good amount of people who pirate a movie would end up watching it legally if they didn't pirate it. It does hurt the companies. Also, being poor isn't an excuse to steal.Posting this once again since the point seems to be ignored. I am not at all concerned about video piracy. I often use for myself, pirated software and watching pirated movies. It helps me to save my money which do not have. Maybe the copyright owners is easier to revise the price of the license to remove it was not profitable to open access to their products. Don't try to justify stealing with lack of money. We aren't talking about food or other necessities here, but entertainment. What would you do if I came to your house and took your computer because it would help me save some money? Also you are not concerned with it because you haven't put time and money into a product that ends up being stolen. I have used torrents, not denying it, but at least I'm not trying to make up stupid explanations.Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: otrkid70 on May 27, 2017, 01:59:33 AM I could use a good movie to watch let them release it :D
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: crwth on May 27, 2017, 02:46:55 AM Releasing the movie early is going to hurt the earnings of the movie because people will not be that psyched to see it after watching it. But it will only harm their profits by a small margin. This is true, there would be a lot of people who already saw it, it depends if they are real super fans of Pirates of the Caribbean, then they are going to watch it lots of times, maybe in 4D or Imax, something like that. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Sithara007 on May 27, 2017, 04:57:58 AM Releasing the movie early is going to hurt the earnings of the movie because people will not be that psyched to see it after watching it. But it will only harm their profits by a small margin. This is true, there would be a lot of people who already saw it, it depends if they are real super fans of Pirates of the Caribbean, then they are going to watch it lots of times, maybe in 4D or Imax, something like that. I am going to watch the movie in IMAX... I have already booked the tickets for tomorrow. But once the Blu-Ray print is available from the torrent, I am going to download that too. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: crwth on May 27, 2017, 05:29:20 AM Releasing the movie early is going to hurt the earnings of the movie because people will not be that psyched to see it after watching it. But it will only harm their profits by a small margin. This is true, there would be a lot of people who already saw it, it depends if they are real super fans of Pirates of the Caribbean, then they are going to watch it lots of times, maybe in 4D or Imax, something like that. I am going to watch the movie in IMAX... I have already booked the tickets for tomorrow. But once the Blu-Ray print is available from the torrent, I am going to download that too. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: solbiere on May 27, 2017, 03:20:06 PM I could use a good movie to watch let them release it :D If it's a good movie you're hoping to see, look somewhere else :D I got convinced to go to the theater to watch this and now I have that feeling of getting scammed. In fact I'd much rather if someone just stole 12 bucks from my pocket than having to suffer through this two hour nightmare. Javier Bardem's CGI face gave me all sorts of terminal diseases. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: JGoRed on May 28, 2017, 01:48:57 AM Posting this once again since the point seems to be ignored. You're getting a product without paying for it. The movie maker spend a ton of money producing the movies and need people to buy them; and every time you torrent a movie you take the product without paying for it, essentially "stealing" it. If that's not stealing than what is?Quote It is not stealing, it is piracy, stealing is to take something out of someone and by that act to deny ownership to the rightful owner, downloading a movie is piracy because you are only creating a copy of the material, both acts are wrong but they are not the same. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: criptix on May 28, 2017, 02:58:56 AM Posting this once again since the point seems to be ignored. You're getting a product without paying for it. The movie maker spend a ton of money producing the movies and need people to buy them; and every time you torrent a movie you take the product without paying for it, essentially "stealing" it. If that's not stealing than what is?Quote It is not stealing, it is piracy, stealing is to take something out of someone and by that act to deny ownership to the rightful owner, downloading a movie is piracy because you are only creating a copy of the material, both acts are wrong but they are not the same. You are coyping it (illegaly). You steal a car, fiat money, diamonds - all physical things. But you do not steal digital things you can only copy it. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: JGoRed on May 28, 2017, 02:16:09 PM You are coyping it (illegaly). Yes, but you're keeping the money you should be giving them in exchange for getting a copy of the movie (the same money they expected to get in return for all the money they spent making the movie). Your effectively stealing the money from them that you should have paid in exchange for the movie that you copied illegally.You steal a car, fiat money, diamonds - all physical things. But you do not steal digital things you can only copy it. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: criptix on May 28, 2017, 02:52:33 PM You are coyping it (illegaly). Yes, but you're keeping the money you should be giving them in exchange for getting a copy of the movie (the same money they expected to get in return for all the money they spent making the movie). Your effectively stealing the money from them that you should have paid in exchange for the movie that you copied illegally.You steal a car, fiat money, diamonds - all physical things. But you do not steal digital things you can only copy it. That is true that they dont profit from you. But you still neither steal money nor their movie. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Spendulus on May 28, 2017, 10:19:23 PM You are coyping it (illegaly). Yes, but you're keeping the money you should be giving them in exchange for getting a copy of the movie (the same money they expected to get in return for all the money they spent making the movie). Your effectively stealing the money from them that you should have paid in exchange for the movie that you copied illegally.You steal a car, fiat money, diamonds - all physical things. But you do not steal digital things you can only copy it. That is true that they dont profit from you. But you still neither steal money nor their movie. The reason is that with large 4k screens and streaming in their homes fewer and fewer people are going to bother going out to movies. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: freedomno1 on May 28, 2017, 11:29:11 PM Goes back to a blast from the past since you two are debating the copy thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI Remastered (The medium changes but copying will always have a demand) Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Sithara007 on May 29, 2017, 03:58:52 AM Releasing the movie early is going to hurt the earnings of the movie because people will not be that psyched to see it after watching it. But it will only harm their profits by a small margin. This is true, there would be a lot of people who already saw it, it depends if they are real super fans of Pirates of the Caribbean, then they are going to watch it lots of times, maybe in 4D or Imax, something like that. I am going to watch the movie in IMAX... I have already booked the tickets for tomorrow. But once the Blu-Ray print is available from the torrent, I am going to download that too. Watched it yesterday in IMAX. I am a big fan of the series, and the latest one was very exciting as well. For me, the DVD leak is of no concern. I wanted to watch the movie in a theater and so I ignored the torrents. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: gondes21 on May 29, 2017, 04:02:47 AM Well, it will available on torrent sooner.
Nothing to worry. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: Limbor on May 29, 2017, 05:32:51 AM Well, it will available on torrent sooner. And before many films were published for review by the public in such a way that the authors were unable to change anything. It seems to me that harm from this minimum and of course if you translate this nonsense into money it would have turned out an impressive amount but as they say it's all about speed does not affect.Nothing to worry. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: JGoRed on May 29, 2017, 03:24:56 PM Yes, but you're keeping the money you should be giving them in exchange for getting a copy of the movie (the same money they expected to get in return for all the money they spent making the movie). Your effectively stealing the money from them that you should have paid in exchange for the movie that you copied illegally. That is true that they dont profit from you. But you still neither steal money nor their movie. Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: AleSergio on May 29, 2017, 07:44:29 PM Nah come on you can just go and watch them in the cinemas already =) You can spare just 5$ and watch it on a big screenwith good resolution and sound, why the heck you need them at the moment from hackers ;D
Title: Re: Hackers threaten to release stolen 'Pirates of the Caribbean 5' Post by: joebrook on May 29, 2017, 08:49:42 PM They should just go ahead and release the movie for all of us to watch it, I doubt that the hackers address going to get the minutes that they are asking for, next time they should hack banks to get money rather.
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