Bitcoin Forum

Per the shoutbox:

BFLJosh @ 05-01-2013 01:28 AM

"I believe the boards are done, but we're waiting on the next set of chips. Should have that by the end of the week. Still will need to get the firmware to talk to the new boards, but that should be fairly trivial. Assuming no issues with the PCB on an electrical/physical level, we might be able to start shipment of LS/Singles next week."

pitty (Edit · Delete)04-30-2013 11:45 PM
ouchies

[top] BFL_Josh - Report Shout04-30-2013 11:45 PM
Yeah, that one was mostly trashed.

[top] pitty (Edit · Delete)04-30-2013 11:44 PM
so that bfl picture of the big wafer - it went in the bin ?

Josh is leaking out, via shoutbox, to his most trusted fans information that he won't touch with a 10 foot pole in the public.

BFL customers waited over half a year, simply on the chip waiting game alone.  12 BFL Jalapenos later, all the chips are all gone?

I'd like to see proof of insurance claim that was filed for when you "lost" the wafer/s.

So after analysis of Josh's statements we have the following situtation:

The boards *might* be done.
There are no chips for the boards.
They *might* have chips by the end of the week, but no firm date for delivery.
They still need to get the firmware working, no time estimate for that either.
There *might* be electrical & physical issues with the new boards.
And of course, yet another "gonna ship next week." but only if everything goes perfectly in a project where almost nothing goes right.

How in the world do you lose 5,000 ASIC chips? They only shipped 15 Jalepeno's (prototypes)....

Are you sure Josh didn't use the majority of it for his own orders?

LOL.

Is there some kind of reward for the worst performing company of the year?

Like the Golden Raspberry for movies?

I would gladly nominate BFL, I think they could really clean up some prices.

Where else do you think the recent network hashrate increase came from?

Does Eligius (Josh's pool) show stats so we can look over the High Hash Rate users?

Aparrantly all asicminer and avalon, lol

BFL is trying their best!  >:(

(Master BFL Shill)


:D ;D

 I'll just leave this here.

 Remember, they shipped on April 1st, folks !

That award has already gone to EA for two years in a row.

I give the award to Research in motion.

We're gonna run out of prizes at this rate.

How long did we wait for the POS that's Diablo III?

"Believe"  really means I have no fucking clue.

"Should" means I fucking hope so and am praying to God it happens.

"Might" means it won't be.

Josh is so good at not being able to make a clear statement of knowing what is happening with the company he manages. Murky statements. Should, Believe, Might, Possibly, ...

 :D I sense an impending implosion to come in the next few months if not weeks.

At least we had Alicia Keys to look at. BFL gives us this clown...

You'd think Josh would have learned by now not to tempt fate with statements like, "that should be fairly trivial."

Pretty sure that's a code phrase for "another six months."  Whether he intends it to be or not >.<

Well in Josh's world everything is rainbows, roses, unicorns, leprechauns, pots of gold.

So it is "fairly trivial" to him in his little world but in reality it is bullshit.

The reward is jail time

Isn't Eligius Lukejr's pool??? Eclipse is Josh's pool  ;)

Haven't SEEN an absurd increase there....yet  ::)

Every time I see Josh's avatar, the first thing that comes to mind is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RprMPis226k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RprMPis226k)

maybe they should just order some chips from avalon and call it a day.  :o

lol yeah...right. Pride would be hurt oh so bad. One thing Josh has is Pride. He can't succumb to that

Shit, your right. But since they are both linked, lets check them both.

(By the way, I was impressed by glimpsing Eligius pool. It looked very nice.)

You mean Eclipse.

https://eclipsemc.com/graphs/historical_rate.php

+1 TH/s in the past month. But if Josh has half a brain, he'll be mining solo where you can't track him.

IF they were mining with the chips, they wouldn't be so stupid to do it on their own pools or under their own names.

Looking it over right now.

Well, I must say, the guy might have no skill in bringing ASICs to market. But at least he knows how to make a nice looking pool.

Is it possible to see/track the origins of  blocks generated by looking at BlockChain.info?

There was a guy a day or two ago on BFL forums and Reddit claiming that he saw a ton of Blocks coming from Kansas. The accusation coming from the guy on Reddit was that it was BFL using mining hardware.

Edit: Found link, seems BFL deleted the thread?:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c1jqd/butterfly_labs_may_be_scamming_us_all/

Getting a new untested board to talk to the firmware isn't trivial.

Chances are there will be at leat a few problems with the board that will require some workarounds in either hardware or software or both. I would say it is at least 2 or 3 weeks to get a board working and tested.


I still don't understand how they are going to assemble and test 400 units a day.

It would seem to me that they would having that done in China. But if they have all the parts in house that would imply they are doing here in this country?

I'm hoping that when they said they ran out of chips, it is because they built 5,000 jalapenos with them and they are testing and shipping them out now.

You can use this site to look at the last 2000+ blocks found: http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/blocklist.php

Find the ones that were found by an "unkown" entity. Click on the blockchain link to see the information of that block located on the far right.

It says what IP address found that block on that page on blockchain.info "relayed by:  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx".

Then you would need to proceed to look up where that IP is located at a web site like this one: http://www.iplocation.net/

Now we finally find out why they sent the working units to PR people....

TO GET MORE CUSTOMER PREORDER MONEIZ!

LOL and soon after those units arrived with PR people...."OH WE NO MO CHIPZAHZ"

 ::) ::) ::)

Oooohh, Thanks.

I have the perfect software to sort through this. Will start chewing on it to see what I find.

I LOLed really hard!  :D :D :D

I missed this earlier... hilarious!


No problem. Thanks for keeping BFL in check :)

Hero.

Okay, so back on topic again.  I'd really like to know how BFL burned through 5000 ASIC chips.  What really happened BFL?  Please chime in so BTCTalk can stop going off topic.

I highly doubt you will get a DIRECT ANSWER from Inaba, Josh, BFL...

Just silence...

 ::) ::) ::)

Based on his method of banning me for asking questions related to liability, and then deleting my posts, I'd say he's defrauding everyone involved.  I doubt he's made an insurance claim, and if he gets audited this would be the silver lining in which all liabilities could be calculated.

I hate to say it, but this is the situation where Big Brother should step in and ask 'WTF?'


5k chips is what, 1 to 2 wafers?  Yeah, could have been broken.  Still, very suspicious.

I hate to agree.

I wonder if they found what was causing the chips to draw too much power (or isolated some other issue), and scrapped the wafers they had in order to get gen1.1 chips into the new boards.

I imagine after this much delay they could at least entertain their customers with a video production-log of what is going on.

There's always this! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSu5Yyc1bEM)

If I had any EE skills I'd drive down there and offer to help them out.  Sadly, my EE ability is pretty much limited to destroying capacitors using wall voltage.

Which is mildly entertaining, but not at all useful.

Kind of like the aforementioned video.

This is awkward.  He won't let you down there unless we publicly shame you, and he sees the opportunity to turn you to the dark side.