Bitcoin Forum

They are not ISIS they are just attention seeker they want to get the attention of international group called "ISIS" to have fund to their activities they are the Maute groups the one who plant a bomb on night market davao hoping that after the declaration president duterte will force all his trops to kills those animals who killed 9 christians already.

They are not ISIS they are just attention seeker they want to get the attention of international group called "ISIS" to have fund to their activities they are the Maute groups the one who plant a bomb on night market davao hoping that after the declaration president duterte will force all his trops to kills those animals who killed 9 christians already.

They are ISIS inspired group. I remember I put up a thread about this Maute group in the Philippines a few months back. I think they are trying hard to be recognized by ISIS. They attacked Marawi City, but the latest news says that the terrorist is now fleeing but it will take days to be cleared because snipers are present and IED's along the way. I don't know but the timing of the attack coincides with the Manchester bomber so I don't know if this is a coordinated attack. Even President Duterte cut his Russian Trip short to go back to Manila and personally see what is going on. I'm sure he is so pissed right now that he want to shot this terrorist.

The details are quite hazy. I saw a news clip on FB saying they also attacked the city jail and a district jail and released the prisoners. Gonna bet plenty of those are relatives of these terrorists. Hell is gonna break lose. 

...

To any Westerners reading this thread, this will be your fate soon. The attack near Parliament and that at the Ariana Grande concert aren't even a half year apart. The interval between these attack would become shorter as you get more radicals coming home from Iraq and Syria.

Well, why not kill them all then?

To any Westerners reading this thread, this will be your fate soon. The attack near Parliament and that at the Ariana Grande concert aren't even a half year apart. The interval between these attack would become shorter as you get more radicals coming home from Iraq and Syria.

Well, why not kill them all then?

Both bible and quran prescript capital punishment for premediated murder (this case) and Duterte, unlike western puppets seems to be strong enough man to carry out justice in this regard.

Remember, from the point of natural law, it doesnt matter what murderer seeks or wants to prove. What matters is that he is held accountible for his crimes against humanity, nature and God.

Can you source more information for us, non-Phillipinos, please?

This is a pretty tough situation for our beloved President. He already declares are martial law for our safety. The only thing that scars me is that if he will gong to extend the martial law sratus in the visayas region

They are not ISIS they are just attention seeker they want to get the attention of international group called "ISIS" to have fund to their activities they are the Maute groups the one who plant a bomb on night market davao hoping that after the declaration president duterte will force all his trops to kills those animals who killed 9 christians already.

I pity these guys once Duterte gets to work with them. This actually plays perfectly for him, now he can take town their whole organization and raise even more support from the public. It almost sounds a bit too good to be true, like maybe it's something staged like the coup in Turkey.

While someone was trying to explode himself on a building full of teens in Manchester, a terrorist group claiming to be an ISIS affiliate attacked a city in southern Philippines. The Philippine president has already declared martial law on the whole Mindanao (second largest island where Marawi city is located) while in Russia.

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/05/23/marawi-city-clash.html

Well, why not kill them all then?

Both bible and quran prescript capital punishment for premediated murder (this case) and Duterte, unlike western puppets seems to be strong enough man to carry out justice in this regard.

Remember, from the point of natural law, it doesnt matter what murderer seeks or wants to prove. What matters is that he is held accountible for his crimes against humanity, nature and God.

Can you source more information for us, non-Phillipinos, please?

You have weird information. Every single coup is staged by nature. The one Turkey by Gülenists cooperating with United States. For some reason, though, administration was warned well ahead, either by insiders or by some third power.

Conflict with islamists in Phillipines to my knowledge goes back to atleast 18th century and perhaps earlier as the Moro people of south, who accepted islam are fiercely independent folk. I would certainly welcome, if natives could enlighten us on inner workings. Western media are almost criminally vague, when it comes to local customs and ongoing news.

They are not ISIS they are just attention seeker they want to get the attention of international group called "ISIS" to have fund to their activities they are the Maute groups the one who plant a bomb on night market davao hoping that after the declaration president duterte will force all his trops to kills those animals who killed 9 christians already.

They are just 4% to 5% of the population in Philippines, and they are causing so much trouble. Imagine what is going to happen, if the Philippines becomes a Muslim majority nation.

It is a really tough situation, and also decision for the President. He said in many conferences that he will not declare Martial Law unless it is needed, but now it is, there are still senators that are not approved with these decision by the President, though they have their points, I think the President is really wanting impatient, based on what the other senators said, but I think they had talked about these matter with the Presidents cabinet members.

Many people also don't want the decision made by the president,  they are saying "atat" to the president, they said that the president is being impatient and saying that it is not the solution for it, and then I ask myself what is the solution if it's now Martial Law? we can't just let loose those terrorist that killed a lot of people.

And I think, it will be extended in Visayas region, as president said, it is just a walking distance to mindanao, so there will be no reason to extend it to Visayas. I just hope you all understand why the President is doing these decisions.

Never the Muslims would be the titular nation of the Philippines. Now Muslims have started creeping expansion around the world. I think that they are too arrogant. Soon the whole world will rise up against the Muslims and this will lead to their destruction. It seems to me that Muslim leaders have felt that the era of oil is over and they are trying to take over the new country. This can be compared to the Crusades of the middle ages.

I would agree that this should not be extended into the visayas region for now as it is still peaceful there. What is funny is that most of the people that are complaining are from the luzon area while the one in mindanao who are affected by the martial law seems to agree with it

To any Westerners reading this thread, this will be your fate soon. The attack near Parliament and that at the Ariana Grande concert aren't even a half year apart. The interval between these attack would become shorter as you get more radicals coming home from Iraq and Syria.
[

I'm a western btw. Just to give you a good idea of what i personally would do if i was attacked by a terrorest... No i won't I'll a terrorest trying to kill me... Atleast not right off the bat. First off id start my immobilizing him/ her then I'd take my time and slowly start peeling off there skin... Not all at once just enough to make suffer a little. Then I'd video tape them as i started cutting there limbs off one by one and then I'd finish them if they live long enough with decapitation. This doesn't just apply to terrorists although those pathetically worthless fucks probably deserve it more then others. Anyone who would try to kill me and my family will regret it. Since. Terrorists don't seem to value living then maybe they'll value death more. So I'll torture and humiliate them without letting then die to fast. Maybe that would give them something to chew on. Terrorists think they are the only ones who suffer but they are sadly mistaken. I personally wouldn't have any qualms about using the same tactics they would try to use on me and mine
I don't fucking go around killing people on a half assed bullshit religion deviant. So no I'm not gonna let you do that stupid shit to me or the ones i love. You face soldiers trained to follow orders and laws that say to not be as cruel too you as you are to us. Well if i feel i need to protect myself out my loved ones I'm not following orders or laws I'm going to use as much hatred as possible to make sure you never forget you fucked up messing with me either in this life or whatever shit hole follows. Also terrorists are pushing us westerners into a place they will soon regret. Most of us already use guns. Keep fucking with us and we'll start getting more creative in how we dispose of you. And always remember we will welcome you with open arms if you come as a friend but if you want to hurt us we will return the favor 10x yo.

There are two forms of Muslim expansion. The first one is through the physical Jihad, just like what is going on in nations such as Syria and Iraq. The non-Muslims are either enslaved or exterminated, and a strict interpretation of the Shakira law is implemented. The second method is through the demographic Jihad. The Muslims increase their presence in a non-Muslim country, through various means. These include producing more children, marrying the infidel women, immigration, conversion of the infidels.etc. The second method is very difficult for the non-Muslims to counter.

Because most of the Philippine population that would be affected is a Martial Law has been declared. But President Duterte already stressed that if he see that Maute group is already in Metro Manila and planning to stage another bombing activity, then he will not hesitated to declare Martial Law to curb the lawlessness going on. This is to protect his constituents and not to abuse Martial Law declaration. Duterte's dectractors always react negatively for every declaration he made. Funny.

Because most of the Philippine population that would be affected is a Martial Law has been declared. But President Duterte already stressed that if he see that Maute group is already in Metro Manila and planning to stage another bombing activity, then he will not hesitated to declare Martial Law to curb the lawlessness going on. This is to protect his constituents and not to abuse Martial Law declaration. Duterte's dectractors always react negatively for every declaration he made. Funny.

I live in the Philippines and I agree with your mentioning conversion by marriage. It doesn't matter if it's the man or woman that is Muslim, it's always the kuffar that must convert. Many just do out of love. I haven't heard anything in the news where the Muslim apostatized to marry a kuffar, although I suppose that would not end well.

Even in Singapore, where the local Muslims are some of the most secular in the world, this is the rule. Almost always it is the non-Muslim who convert to Islam. I don't understand why pretty looking ethnic Chinese girls convert to some stone age ideology, just to become the third or fourth wife of some ugly and uneducated ethnic Malay guy.

Haha, maybe we should ask them to teach us how to seduce girls.  ;D

These men spend much of their lives preparing to finally bone it. Go google "jelq". Yup, it's passed father to son, LOL.

Also got a relative who got boned by one, thank goodness she opted to just raise her daughter as a single mom. I think this is also one reason they prefer non-Muslim girls, they get to bone earlier without having to marry first.

The reason why they prefer non-Muslim girls is due to the unavailability of Muslim girls. Some Muslim men marry 3-4 times, without divorcing. So obviously there are less "single" women around among the Muslims.

Ah, I read about this before, how polygamy makes girls scarcer, increasing the chance that some men might not get to marry at all. Globalization is really a boon for them, so many girls to choose from and they all use deodorants.

In societies where polygamy is permitted, the extra men are removed through a wide variety of methods. Take the example of the fundamentalist Mormons of Arizona and New Mexico. A certain number of male children are expelled every year, in order to maintain the equilibrium.

This is a pretty tough situation for our beloved President. He already declares are martial law for our safety. The only thing that scars me is that if he will gong to extend the martial law sratus in the visayas region

Even in Singapore, where the local Muslims are some of the most secular in the world, this is the rule. Almost always it is the non-Muslim who convert to Islam. I don't understand why pretty looking ethnic Chinese girls convert to some stone age ideology, just to become the third or fourth wife of some ugly and uneducated ethnic Malay guy.

Haha, maybe we should ask them to teach us how to seduce girls.  ;D

These men spend much of their lives preparing to finally bone it. Go google "jelq". Yup, it's passed father to son, LOL.

Also got a relative who got boned by one, thank goodness she opted to just raise her daughter as a single mom. I think this is also one reason they prefer non-Muslim girls, they get to bone earlier without having to marry first.

Bryant,
look at it this way, then you might understand. If western secular society is good something, it is making increasing number of young people single  ;) religious fundamentalists place far greater emphasis on family, than on either career or personal well being. Thats attracrive when you are one of millions of single women in the west.

http://www.straitstimes.com/sites/default/files/160311_marry-later_update.jpg

The only particular difference between muslims and other here, is that the former scoff upon inter faith marrying. I know of men aswell, who converted for the possiblity of marriage.


Or you could get out and actually start to talk with others like normal human being  ;) Muslims or mormons are not better seducers, often treating sex in quite awkward fashion. In their mind sex and procreation is the same thing. Difference between you and religious is the commitment to the idea of family. And well most women dont seem to be so obssesed about idea of being "almost like a man", when they can find an actual man.

They are not ISIS dude

Abu Bakr al Baghdadi has recognized this group (Islamic State of Lanao or Maute group) as one of the factions of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant in the Philippines. So it is wrong to say that they are not ISIS.

They are not a member of the ISIS but rather they are planning to be a part of that international terrorist group. The Marawe siege is one of they plays so that Isis will notice them and will adopt them as a part of their organization. They are not ISIS before the siege but possibly they will be members of the ISIS after that devastating event.

Even in Singapore, where the local Muslims are some of the most secular in the world, this is the rule. Almost always it is the non-Muslim who convert to Islam. I don't understand why pretty looking ethnic Chinese girls convert to some stone age ideology, just to become the third or fourth wife of some ugly and uneducated ethnic Malay guy.

In societies where polygamy is permitted, the extra men are removed through a wide variety of methods. Take the example of the fundamentalist Mormons of Arizona and New Mexico. A certain number of male children are expelled every year, in order to maintain the equilibrium.

Abu Bakr al Baghdadi has recognized this group (Islamic State of Lanao or Maute group) as one of the factions of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant in the Philippines. So it is wrong to say that they are not ISIS.

The reason why they prefer non-Muslim girls is due to the unavailability of Muslim girls. Some Muslim men marry 3-4 times, without divorcing. So obviously there are less "single" women around among the Muslims.

Mr president Rodrigo Duterte declared martial law in the whole Mindanao because they have terrorist in marawi city. I hope philippine soldier they complete they mission because many people there are affected and other innocent people died because of the terrorist I dont know what is the purpose of this. I hope Marawi city will Come back again and I hope they will become a place again like before. Thanks to Mr presidente even they have meeting to the Russia they decided to go back to the philippines to protect their country and all people here.

just hoping for the best in our country mate, as the president already declared martial law and the troops are already heading to crash them out,
I fully support the president decision as we knew that this group is only gathering sympathy coming from ISIS they just asking for some help coming out from them, hope media will try to stop broadcasting any information about the government movement to make sure this will be accomplish.

It is really puzzling how pinoys do exaggerate and make fun of the situation in europe while entire states in the phillipines are under terrorist control without refugees ::)

In societies where polygamy is permitted, the extra men are removed through a wide variety of methods. Take the example of the fundamentalist Mormons of Arizona and New Mexico. A certain number of male children are expelled every year, in order to maintain the equilibrium.

Seeing the thing that is happening with the Philippines, it's really concerning. The group that wants to be noticed and somehow manages to get some firearms for abuse (we don't know where they got it but definitely somewhere where and a way that's illegal. I just hope that the people that are innocent there are safe and the soldiers would be able to apprehend the terrorists because it's alarming. What's sad about is that the individuals in the other parts of the country are trying to boycott the issued martial law, even knowing that they are not there. They should just spread the love.

It is really puzzling how pinoys do exaggerate and make fun of the situation in europe while entire states in the phillipines are under terrorist control without refugees ::)

While someone was trying to explode himself on a building full of teens in Manchester, a terrorist group claiming to be an ISIS affiliate attacked a city in southern Philippines. The Philippine president has already declared martial law on the whole Mindanao (second largest island where Marawi city is located) while in Russia.

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/05/23/marawi-city-clash.html

The issue about terrorism has gotten so bad that it is not even only the Arab world that are feeling the pain any longer as it is even spreading to every where in the world. From Europe to Asia to Africa among other continents of the world but the bone of contention is the collateral damage  all of this where innocent citizens that does not even know the way government works who does not even vote in elections gets to suffer for it while the people in power making the policies are largely untouchable.

They are not ISIS they are just attention seeker they want to get the attention of international group called "ISIS" to have fund to their activities they are the Maute groups the one who plant a bomb on night market davao hoping that after the declaration president duterte will force all his trops to kills those animals who killed 9 christians already.

Participating and grieving for the families who get the disaster, why there are still affected by things that hurt others, we know that any religion does not teach like that.
Grieving for families who get calamities.

Today they measure the Arab by one measure and they are almost identical for each person. Although it is necessary to understand here and there that not all Arabs are terrorists, but that's what they think

Seeing the thing that is happening with the Philippines, it's really concerning. The group that wants to be noticed and somehow manages to get some firearms for abuse (we don't know where they got it but definitely somewhere where and a way that's illegal. I just hope that the people that are innocent there are safe and the soldiers would be able to apprehend the terrorists because it's alarming. What's sad about is that the individuals in the other parts of the country are trying to boycott the issued martial law, even knowing that they are not there. They should just spread the love.

those people who still criticizing the declaration of martial are those who doesn't know well the situation and why this law is needed inside mindanao
as they are all just helping the terrorist in terms of gathering attention in an international media, they are just speculating misconception  with the good intention of the president, they are not helping to resolve the issue but giving the maute group some leaning shoulders to catch more international terrorist to help them.

This crisis has escalated beyond my wildest expectation. More than a hundred people have lost their lives till now, and the army has lost a number of their armored vehicles. Who would have expected this, in a country where less than 5% of the population is Muslim?

This crisis has escalated beyond my wildest expectation. More than a hundred people have lost their lives till now, and the army has lost a number of their armored vehicles. Who would have expected this, in a country where less than 5% of the population is Muslim?

Last I saw in the news the army has already recaptured a large portion of the city. Can't be complacent though. When Islamists attacked Zamboanga, they fled on boats back to their island hideouts, ready to fight another day. These terrorists must be shot where they are found so as not to commit the same atrocities again.

Those who live by the sword, dies by the sword.

Curiously there was a drop in Islamist-inspired attacks in Thailand since the junta took over. Sigh, maybe that is really the only way to deal with them. They did behaved themselves when the Americans were in control of the country.

Many of the originally Muslim areas in the Philippines are just on the part of the island, the rest were populated by animists who moved up to the mountains to avoid conflict with the Muslims (as well as Christian settlers later). We've never stopped negotiating with these groups. Once we're done with one, another offshot comes out of the former and asks for more. We already gave them some autonomy. We POURED money from the more affluent regions but nothing ever came out of it.

At the risk of sounding ethnocentric, the culture is partly to blame. If you think the Catholic Filipino are easily corruptible, you have to look down south. Their politicians are basically their old nobility and act as such. There were even places were politicians run unopposed because everyone in the local government is a member of the clan and they'd just have a family meeting to select who will run for office. We call them clannish for a good reason. Seen it personally for my self. Some woman got into a fight with a Muslim woman and soon she was being mobbed by all the women of the clan. And this is here in the capital, just imagine if it was in their home base.

It also doesn't help that they still have a warrior mentality. These people are armed and some even bring this culture when moving to Christian areas. Entire towns would have to be evacuated just because some families decided to revive an old feud (yup this happens even in Christian areas since Muslims build ghettos around mosques and eventually wall up the place). They say their religion allows them to do this, to hunt after people who killed a family member or "dishonored" their family. As expected, this starts a vicious cycle of vendetta which would scare out even the most intrepid investor.

UPDATE: Turns out, there were foreign fighters in there like we earlier expected. Heck, there was even a Chechen.

http://www.interaksyon.com/8-of-33-slain-terrorists-are-foreigners-others-mostly-from-western-mindanao/

We really cant tell. You know that they thinks very different from us that is merely the reason why they do things that is uncertain for us. The only thing that we could do right now is to pray for everyones safety

UPDATE: Turns out, there were foreign fighters in there like we earlier expected. Heck, there was even a Chechen.

http://www.interaksyon.com/8-of-33-slain-terrorists-are-foreigners-others-mostly-from-western-mindanao/

That is bad news. Because the Chechens are the most effective fighting force within the ISIS. The recent setbacks suffered by the ISIS in Syria can be directly attributed to the death of high ranking Chechen commanders, such as Abu Omar al-Shishani. They have decades of experience fighting against the Russian army.

The failure of the colonizers from the past in christening the entire Philippine archipelago leads as to what it is now. The Mindanao was the one who have not been successfully Christianize then here it goes the Muslim rebels fighting for what they believe in saying that this is what the Quran  said then other Muslims would say that this is not what Quran is teaching and etc. The Islam is a messed up religion after the death of their prophet Muhammad and a lot of factions has rise up. Greed of power also rise up as they want to become a leader of the entire Muslim community by establishing caliphate and become a caliph with the full control of the military and political affairs of all the Muslim around the world that is the goal of this nonsensical ISIS. This is very frustrating.

The political dynasty in Mindanao have grown huge and wild but now the president who have a great political will will punish those who are corrupt, reduce the criminality, and subdue these terrorists while making the country prosper.

That is bad news. Because the Chechens are the most effective fighting force within the ISIS. The recent setbacks suffered by the ISIS in Syria can be directly attributed to the death of high ranking Chechen commanders, such as Abu Omar al-Shishani. They have decades of experience fighting against the Russian army.

While someone was trying to explode himself on a building full of teens in Manchester, a terrorist group claiming to be an ISIS affiliate attacked a city in southern Philippines. The Philippine president has already declared martial law on the whole Mindanao (second largest island where Marawi city is located) while in Russia.

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/05/23/marawi-city-clash.html

I think it's a good thing he declared martial law, I do believe that martial law can be a good strategy for peace and discipline if it is use right.

Since the last time I checked this news, the terrorists seems to be weak and weak after all. According to the military, they take over 90% of the Marawi City. Hopefully the terrorists would surrender to the police. Hopefully this tragedy would be solve. Let's just pray for the country.

We can never be too sure. Remember these barbarians have bombed a train, a mall, and a passenger ship before.

No wait, it seems there's no hope for this country. Just look at the amount of people rejoicing the soldiers' death in this group... https://www.facebook.com/groups/BNewsView/ 

Ugh, saw it. The group is a sickening cesspool of hate and fundamentalism.

BTW everyone, this is what they're rejoicing about, a botched airstrike which left some soldiers dead....


http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/01/asia/philippines-soldiers-killed-airstrike-isis/index.html?sr=fbcnni060117philippines-soldiers-killed-airstrike-isis0930AMVODtopLink&linkId=38236124

Bringing news: another part of the Philippines are now being attacked by a brother of ISIS which is ISIL they recently attacked the resorts world manila. Im afraid that the martial law will be extended to luzon

About the recent attack in Resorts World 36 were died in the incident but it wasn't because of gun shot. It was due to suffocation.

Terrorism is becoming more worst in the Philippines now. Even the government says they are almost in control in Marawi City. I'm afraid that terrorist would just moved and target another place.

38 dead now. The authorities said they are ruling out terrorism because the man stole chips. They're not being truthful to us.

So do they really think we'll believe that the man went in there, fired multiple rounds at guests and then set himself on fire for casino chips? This government has always taken us for retards but this is just extreme. That they haven't released more details about the attacker is particularly telling.

Yeah... I just heard about the terrorist attack in Manila. BBC News claims that till now 34 bodies have been recovered. The ISIS seems to be trying a two-pronged strategy against the Filipinos. First they are trying to wage a physical war against them in Muslim dominated areas such as Lanao. Secondly, they are trying to destroy the tourism sector by targeting facilities popular with the tourists in the major cities.

[\qoute]

They are still investigating the case. Even tho that the ISIS have claimed that it is their actions. However the Philippine national police said that this somehow may relate to just a robbery case because of the evidence that the person didnt shoot anyone they died because of a soffucation

I'm sorry y'all are dealing with this man. I just echoed your sentiments an a different post, I'm way confused why the authorities are playing the terrorism angle so close to chest, to the point of lying (ISIS just claimed this, according to CNN). Am I reading correctly that a SECOND attack, one other than the casono, is/was occuring?

My prayers are with you and your people.

Haven't heard about the second attack. People on FB are speculating about this incident though. Some noted that the attacker used an M4, which usually only the police and the army can acquire. So the gossip here is that either this really was a terrorist attack or a scheme by the government to extend martial law to the entire country (it's only in effect on a third of the Philippines).

Haven't heard about the second attack. People on FB are speculating about this incident though. Some noted that the attacker used an M4, which usually only the police and the army can acquire. So the gossip here is that either this really was a terrorist attack or a scheme by the government to extend martial law to the entire country (it's only in effect on a third of the Philippines).

I do believe that they are not ISIS but rather they are Maute Group, a trying hard terrorist that want to be recognize by ISIS. And the thing here is they are not that powerful but the police and the military having a hard time to defeat them. Until now, there are still Maute Group on the Marawi City. But the military said that they takeover the 90 percent and hopefully they can takeover the whole city of Marawi.

I do believe that they are not ISIS but rather they are Maute Group, a trying hard terrorist that want to be recognize by ISIS. And the thing here is they are not that powerful but the police and the military having a hard time to defeat them. Until now, there are still Maute Group on the Marawi City. But the military said that they takeover the 90 percent and hopefully they can takeover the whole city of Marawi.

Actually I made a post that is somehow related to this topic. Anyway, I am from Mindanao and the city where I live right now is very near to Marawi. Everybody in our city right now is very scared that these so called ISIS affiliates will enter our city and do some bad things just like what they did in Marawi.

Just kill all the terrorists in the philippines.

It damages the future of the Filipino children.

Especially in the city of marawi.

I've been following this through facebook and twitter and it seems that isis really is behind the groups in marawi. A large amount of cash and checks were apparently retrieved from their camps and it's mind boggling how these terrorists acquire that amount of money. If they have that much backing, then ammunition and resources would keep on coming and it would be harder to finish these people off if this goes on longer

P79-M worth of checks, cash found by PH Marines in Maute lair

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/903002/p79-m-worth-of-checks-cash-found-by-ph-marines-in-maute-lair/amp

Wow they are well funded $1.5m

Maybe  Duterte is correct about Drug Lords funding these idiots to wreak havoc

It is sad that 50 government forces perished in this war.

I saw that. That's really a huge funds in cash. This is one reason why their force is so strong and not easy to beat. I think I heard before that druglords are going to rent ISIS to kill Duterte. I don't remember if it was before or after the election. I guess this was the rumor being said before. Though they ain't target the President directly but the peace and order of PH.

P79-M worth of checks, cash found by PH Marines in Maute lair

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/903002/p79-m-worth-of-checks-cash-found-by-ph-marines-in-maute-lair/amp

Wow they are well funded $1.5m

Maybe  Duterte is correct about Drug Lords funding these idiots to wreak havoc

It is sad that 50 government forces perished in this war.

I've been following this through facebook and twitter and it seems that isis really is behind the groups in marawi. A large amount of cash and checks were apparently retrieved from their camps and it's mind boggling how these terrorists acquire that amount of money. If they have that much backing, then ammunition and resources would keep on coming and it would be harder to finish these people off if this goes on longer

....

I dont really believe that. Drug lords are ultimately motivated by profit and they can hire enough goons of their own.....

If ISIS tried this with the Mexican drug lords it's ISIS that'd be found beheaded...

The drug gangs exist in a carefully constructed world where nobody steps over the boundaries set up for mutual profit. Pay the police off, kidnap some families, keep them until their people move some drugs, then let them go.

It works as long as you aren't involved with something like ISIS.

Was it found out if these terrorist ammunition was bought with bitcoin?
Now that it is easily obtained from bitcoin into fiat in this way:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/3-major-bitcoin-platforms-in-philippines-efficiency-comparison-test

https://cointelegraph.com/news/the-philippines-officially-legitimize-bitcoin-as-payment-method

If this is really true this will be quiet alarming for the citizen of the Philippines. To be honest Im not that too much updated on whats going on here as well even though I am Fiilipino I really dont feel.any terrorist act near on my area (Manila). Everything is still under control which still good knowing that there are terrorist who are trying to penetrate our country. Immreally confident right now because of the president that I really admire because of his intelligence and decision making. But based on the news there are some terrorist act happening near in some places of Phillipines so we still need to be fully guarded as well.

If ISIS tried this with the Mexican drug lords it's ISIS that'd be found beheaded...

P79-M worth of checks, cash found by PH Marines in Maute lair

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/903002/p79-m-worth-of-checks-cash-found-by-ph-marines-in-maute-lair/amp

Wow they are well funded $1.5m

Maybe  Duterte is correct about Drug Lords funding these idiots to wreak havoc

It is sad that 50 government forces perished in this war.

What I found weird about that find is that all the money are neatly bundled and each bundle still have plastic wrapping. I've never seen anyone withdraw a plastic-wrapped bundle from a bank.

What I found weirder was that there were several receipts found along with the stash. Bank receipts! Who the heck is stupid enough to fund these people and leave evidence?

Something don't feel right with the way things are going.

I dont really believe that. Drug lords are ultimately motivated by profit and they can hire enough goons of their own.

ISIS troops in the south are independent of mostly secular crime networks elsewhere, funded by gulf Arabs like all other terrorists. South of Phillipines was never drug lords terorritory, Islam put draconian punishment on drug users.

The internet and the world becoming a global village has also aided terrorism. How will a gang in Philippines swear allegiance to a terror group thousands of miles away. How will a young student get the ideas to become a suicide bomber. Heavens save us all

There are plenty of Muslim drug users and peddlers here in Manila. Also, after the army has driven out the terrorists that occupied Zamboanga years ago, they found plenty of drug paraphernalia in the buildings they used as sniping posts. Looks like they've been taking meth while defending those positions.

Bought from who and transported how?  ;) Bitcoin is merely vehicle of payment and currency, just as are good ol´ dollars. Phillipines are an archipelago, not sharing land border with any muslim state, so this is merely red herring.

Yes those money were cleaned and seems like fresh straight fron the BSP or the central bank of the Philippines.    Someone from the oposition might funding this group to destabilize the current government.  Funded by some politicians who were allergic to the cleansing Duterte currently doing in this country.  Or maybe it was funded by druglords who want to shift the attention to terrorist not on the drug campaign our government is doing.  

It is really puzzling how pinoys do exaggerate and make fun of the situation in europe while entire states in the phillipines are under terrorist control without refugees Roll Eyes

It is really puzzling how pinoys do exaggerate and make fun of the situation in europe while entire states in the phillipines are under terrorist control without refugees ::)

What I found weird about that find is that all the money are neatly bundled and each bundle still have plastic wrapping. I've never seen anyone withdraw a plastic-wrapped bundle from a bank.

What I found weirder was that there were several receipts found along with the stash. Bank receipts! Who the heck is stupid enough to fund these people and leave evidence?

Something don't feel right with the way things are going.

Many of the Muslim militant groups use drugs, to improve the efficiency of their fighters. The ISIS is known to give various varieties of amphetamines to its fighters, in order to remove "fear".

It is really puzzling how pinoys do exaggerate and make fun of the situation in europe while entire states in the phillipines are under terrorist control without refugees Roll Eyes

The situation in the Philippines is much better than that in the European Union. In the EU, it is extremely difficult to prosecute the Islamist terrorists, due to the presence of the human rights lobby. Even suspected ISIS members were freed from jail, as the crimes were committed outside the EU. But in Philippines, they crack down upon the militants like anything.

The situation is really different here. We don't accept refugees here. Unlike the EU who open their gates for millions of refugees. Muslim is predominantly is the South only. And they stage it in Marawi which is very far from Metro Manila. So please stop comparing the two. The father of the suspected Maute brothers was caught during the check point. And also the military has found millions of pesos left by the group. So it was really funded very well and the video of the terrorist planning it was floating as well in the social media and they have been all identified. I'm confident that the President can contained the situation in Marawi and will not spread out in other places.

The situation is really different here. We don't accept refugees here. Unlike the EU who open their gates for millions of refugees. Muslim is predominantly is the South only. And they stage it in Marawi which is very far from Metro Manila. So please stop comparing the two. The father of the suspected Maute brothers was caught during the check point. And also the military has found millions of pesos left by the group. So it was really funded very well and the video of the terrorist planning it was floating as well in the social media and they have been all identified. I'm confident that the President can contained the situation in Marawi and will not spread out in other places.

President Rodrigo Duterte warned “fellow Moro” against joining the fray in Marawi, where government troops had been battling it out with extremists holding portions of the city.

Duterte told them to get out of the way and leave Marawi, adding that they would always be welcome in his home city of Davao.

“My warning to my fellow Moro: Do not, do not attempt to play here. If you don’t want to get in trouble, get of the way,” he said in a speech before soldiers of the 1st Mechanized Infantry Division in Sultan Kudarat.

“Do not join in because we would just end up killing each other – we of the same blood – and I don’t want that,” he added.

He made the statement after chiding Maranaos once more for letting the Islamic State into Marawi.

He also disclosed that he had talked over the phone with one of the persons ordered arrested in connection with Marawi siege, whom he identified as “Solitario.”

Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana issued Arrest Order No. 2 on Omar Solitario Ali, a former mayor of Marawi.

Ali is the brother of former Marawi Mayor Fahad Salic, who is married to a cousin of Omar and Abdullah Maute, who lead one of the extremists groups staging a rebellion in Marawi.

Salic has been nabbed for rebellion.

An Inquirer report also identified Ali as the government emissary who tried to stage a dialogue with the Maute Group to spare the city from destruction and secure the release of a Catholic priest taken hostage.

The attempt was unsuccessful.

“Solitario called me up,” Duterte said. “Son of a bitch, what’s up with you? Are you a friend of the government or are we foes? I said: ‘Lorenzana wants you arrested. Son of a bitch, I will really have you killed’.”

He also told Solitario to talk with Secretary Jesus Dureza, presidential adviser on the peace process, but to make sure he wouldn’t show himself to government forces because he would really be nabbed and he might be killed.

If Solitario would be able to clear his name and show he had no hand in the Marawi incident, that would be the only time he would talk to him, the President said.

Earlier on Friday, Undersecretary Ernesto Abella, presidential spokesperson, said that, when Duterte lamented that the Maranaos allowed the entry of IS, he was not assigning “blanket blame.”

“I would assume that what he’s referring to are basically the sympathizers, the actual sympathizers who would be that. But it’s not a blanket blame,” Abella said.

I dont know where you pinoys have your infos from but there arent ISIS member freed from prison because they commited crimes outside the EU. That statement is just crazy and a lie.
We know that the education in the phillipines is garbage because you are just a 3rd world nation but in the age of the Internet you really never heard of something like the International Court of Justice or the European Court of Human Rights?
That are the places where for example warcrimes and crimes against humanity are prosecuted and it is located - what a surprise - in Europe ::)


The problem in the phillipines is much worst.
We europeans let muslim refugees in and they will some day go home by themself or by other means if they dont integrate.
The muslim pinoys are homegrown. No refugees, no deportations, no going home.
3rd world eduacation + muslim = pinoyland

Well at least Duterte finally had the balls to blame them for what happened to their city.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/904084/duterte-warns-moros-against-joining-fighting-in-marawi?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1497017469




Will go home on their own? Even before this mess Europe already have a large Muslim population they naturalized. Majority of the terrorist attack in Europe are made by 2nd and 3rd generation Muslim immigrants, so yeah, they can't be deported. They're basically enemies with a foot in the door. You're not fooling any Filipino in here.

Considering how time and time again you've shown bias against Filipinos, I'm going to look at this latest comment of yours as mere noise and will stop quoting you. Heck, I remember asking you if you what your nationality is in another thread when you said most people in bitcointalk just want to be welfare leech in Europe when they mentioned they want to travel there and you won't even answer. At least we Filipinos don't try to misrepresent ourselves here, we're Filipinos and we say it, no need to pose as another nationality.

And why are you arguing with people pointing out the wrong comparison in andikaputh24's comment. Was it because it's exactly the same comment you made before in this thread, as merchantofzeny pointed out?

The situation in the Philippines is much better than that in the European Union. In the EU, it is extremely difficult to prosecute the Islamist terrorists, due to the presence of the human rights lobby. Even suspected ISIS members were freed from jail, as the crimes were committed outside the EU. But in Philippines, they crack down upon the militants like anything.

Mostly the reason why terrorist siege is happening not just on the Philippines but also in some nations around the world because they are seeking for the attention of the national government about their personal claims and needs because of the poverty that is really obvious in many nations. But their way to caught the attention of the government is really wrong because they are sacrificing the innocent minds not just of those children but also the families that are involved in the vicinity where the terrorist siege is happening.

Atleast pinoys are very funnny.
You can stop your 3rd world conspiracies about me having alts.
Which nationality i am is easy to deduct and widely known except you are a 3rd world pinoy with an avg. Iq of 80.

Whats the difference about europe and pinoy utopia?
We have isolated terrorist attacks from radicalised  2nd/3rd generation muslims that kill less people then a public bus per year.
In pinoy utopia the muslim population conquers whole states.

Be more delusional please.

Ps: be grateful i give you the opportunity to spam for money instead of selling shabu

You are still claiming that poverty is the issue here? Marawi is not the poorest city in the Philippines. The inhabitants were relatively well off. So don't play games here. It was Islam which caused this siege, and not poverty.

The Maute group is not directly affiliated with ISIS, but they have pledged their allegiance to the much bigger extremist group. These past few years, ISIS has been going strong with their terror attacks against humanity, and I believe it is what inspired most terrorist groups today. It's saddening that the world has come to this, but I still hope we can change things. Pray for Marawi, and the whole human race.

It is scary that several groups are popping here and there indicating their support and intent on being one with ISIS. Like what happened in Marawi, it would take a lot of planning and resources to pull off such a feat and to sustain them holding the area for this long. It now has ISIS' support surely and the problem is that they blend in mostly with civilians that they military would have a hard time scouring them out.

Government already recaptured 90% of the city. The terrorists have bunkered in various mosques across the city, sniping at soldiers from their minarets and other projections. That's the only reason they are still alive. The air force has resumed strikes and there was an American plane seen patrolling the area. Once they get permission to drop bombs on the mosques, it will all be over.


It just one city in a medium-sized province. No need to exaggerate. Only reason they have not been eliminated yet is because they're hiding in mosques, which is off-limits for attacks, as is the standard in many countries.


It is actually the only highly urbanized city in the autonomous Muslim region. It's far from the hovels in other Muslim provinces.

It is scary that several groups are popping here and there indicating their support and intent on being one with ISIS. Like what happened in Marawi, it would take a lot of planning and resources to pull off such a feat and to sustain them holding the area for this long. It now has ISIS' support surely and the problem is that they blend in mostly with civilians that they military would have a hard time scouring them out.

Exaggrate? :D

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_conflict

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_conflict#/media/File%3APhilippines_Christian-Muslim_Division_Map_(by_majority).png

Well, why not kill them all then?

Both bible and quran prescript capital punishment for premediated murder (this case) and Duterte, unlike western puppets seems to be strong enough man to carry out justice in this regard.

Remember, from the point of natural law, it doesnt matter what murderer seeks or wants to prove. What matters is that he is held accountible for his crimes against humanity, nature and God.

Can you source more information for us, non-Phillipinos, please?

Kill them all. That's currently the president's directive to the Armed Forces of the Philippines and the police. He even snubbed the offer for a dialogue coming from the mother herself of the Maute brothers, the main group leading the attack. President Duterte's decision not to accept the offer for a talk was simple: he has several policemen and military killed already. There is no need for a talk then. The terrorists have to suffer no less than death.

He is right. There should be no dialogue with the ISIS. What is the use of dialogue? They will just get more time to prepare themselves for an even bigger battle. That should not be allowed. They must be destroyed in the bud itself.

That's what people love about President Duterte. He has no non-sense policy against the terrorist. He is wants an all out war because he knows that if their is dialogue, nothing positive would came about it. The government have already put a $10 million bounty on the head of the leader of the Maute and for sure its just a matter of time close to him would turn to government and point where they are hiding. Similar to what happened to a Marwan(another terrorist) who was killed by the AFP, but unfortunately a lot has died on the government forces (SAF-44). No dialogue, they have started this siege in Marawi, Duterte will finished it.

Still, this incident makes me less optimistic of the situation there. There were many people online blatantly rooting for the terrorists even though it were mostly Muslims suffering from the siege. Duterte even blamed some people there for tolerating the rise of these fundamentalists.

It's not a surprise that ISIS could easily enter the Philippines. Why? Government supports them just to lead a rebellion against the current administration. At first, Maute, Abu Sayaff and NPA are the one terrorizing the south part of the Philippines especially in mindanao. This group cannot operate without sponsors. Philippines is already under Siege way back Marcos terms. It just so happen that this ISIS can caused a lot of damage to a small country like Philippines.

It is not surprising. Even in the Western nations such as the United Kingdom, there are a lot of Muslims who openly support the radical terrorist organizations such as the ISIS and the Al Qaeda. Any attempt to weed out these people is termed as an attack against Muslims.

It's not a surprise that ISIS could easily enter the Philippines. Why? Government supports them just to lead a rebellion against the current administration. At first, Maute, Abu Sayaff and NPA are the one terrorizing the south part of the Philippines especially in mindanao. This group cannot operate without sponsors. Philippines is already under Siege way back Marcos terms. It just so happen that this ISIS can caused a lot of damage to a small country like Philippines.

I recently learned that the situation ws brought to an end thanks to Military support from the USA, am wondering why didn't Duterte's new buddies the Chinese government help with the whole situation, He should pick his allies more wisely and stop being an ****

It was a support on technology but without the effort of the government and without the sacrificed of Filipino soldiers risked their life and some are heroes right now, it would not be possible.  I may say that USA helps and acknowledge it.  But the big thank you should be with the government and the soldiers.  It only shows that if the government is serious with their plans it can be achieved.

It's not a surprise that ISIS could easily enter the Philippines. Why? Government supports them just to lead a rebellion against the current administration. At first, Maute, Abu Sayaff and NPA are the one terrorizing the south part of the Philippines especially in mindanao. This group cannot operate without sponsors. Philippines is already under Siege way back Marcos terms. It just so happen that this ISIS can caused a lot of damage to a small country like Philippines.

While someone was trying to explode himself on a building full of teens in Manchester, a terrorist group claiming to be an ISIS affiliate attacked a city in southern Philippines. The Philippine president has already declared martial law on the whole Mindanao (second largest island where Marawi city is located) while in Russia.

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/05/23/marawi-city-clash.html

I don't why people like this exist on earth. The world doesn't need this.
I hope all this terrorist bullshit ends soon.

It will never end. Even if someone manages to take out Abu Bakr al Baghdadi and his ISIS group, a new leader and a new group will emerge. I know the exact reason behind the rise in terrorist incidents. It is the money inflow from Arab nations such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait which is causing an uptick in these incidents.

Sadly i think you're right. With people being divided by culture, religion and beliefs, it would always be easy for evil people to take advantage and manipulate those factors to wreck terror. Sadder part is they are getting a lot of people to agree wih their thinking, and these people are educated ones, to say the least. Some even are from well off families. And the more.this goes on, the more innocent people will be affected.

I don't why people like this exist on earth. The world doesn't need this.
I hope all this terrorist bullshit ends soon.

You don't have to lecture me about my country's own history. I know this.

Sadly i think you're right. With people being divided by culture, religion and beliefs, it would always be easy for evil people to take advantage and manipulate those factors to wreck terror. Sadder part is they are getting a lot of people to agree wih their thinking, and these people are educated ones, to say the least. Some even are from well off families. And the more.this goes on, the more innocent people will be affected.

That dont downplay the fact that the phillipines are a 3rd world shithole.

That dont downplay the fact that the Philippines are a 3rd world shithole.

Don't be too arrogant. Last year, your country (Germany) imported some 1.2 million immigrants from third world hell-holes such as Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq. If things go on like this, vrey soon Germans will be queuing up to immigrate to the Philippines.

Don't be too arrogant. Last year, your country (Germany) imported some 1.2 million immigrants from third world hell-holes such as Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq. If things go on like this, vrey soon Germans will be queuing up to immigrate to the Philippines.

Is, it's still a single country. I know it's a shithole but there are far worse shithole around... like Zimbabwe or South Sudan. Not that I'm proud there are worse or that I'm happy for their misery put I also just have to point that out, same way you're accusing me of downplaying the situation here.

I can't help but wonder why you keep coming back to this thread just to diss at Filipinos when you also have other problems to worry about. Did you try to get a mail order bride but got rejected by the agency? Or did you visit here and got mugged or robbed? I suppose only bad experience or a bad case of ethnocentrism causes people to make such comments.

You're one of the few people here in the forum who I've seen regularly visit Pinoy-related threads just to call everyone an idiot.

What I found weird about that find is that all the money are neatly bundled and each bundle still have plastic wrapping. I've never seen anyone withdraw a plastic-wrapped bundle from a bank.

What I found weirder was that there were several receipts found along with the stash. Bank receipts! Who the heck is stupid enough to fund these people and leave evidence?

Something don't feel right with the way things are going.

And to nepal too, of course  :D

Its so funny how 3rd worlders like both of you think that germany or west europe is on the brink of destruction.

Sithara, little uneducated nepalese girl, 90% of all our refugees are syrians and afghans with the first group having the great majority. The rest is from east europe and africa.

Im sorry to hurt your feelings but this is not pinoyland where mr. Sucker duterte kills or jails everyone who says the truth.
Btw. I only call certain people idiots.
Saying that ph is a 3rd world shithole doesnt mean that every pinoy is a idiot.
And you are excusing now the state of PH because zimbabwe and somalia are even worst 3rd world shitholes?

You are a idiot.

Yeah sure. have fun with all your Syrian Arabs and Afghans. I agree that Nepal is a poor third world country. But have you ever heard of any Nepalese conducting terrorist attacks anywhere in the world? On the other hand, a number of nations recruit soldiers from Nepal (India, United Kingdom, Hong Kong, Singapore, Brunei.etc). You arrogant German nazi will be taught a lesson by the very Muslims you imported to your country.

And for your kind information, although I was born in Nepal, I no longer hold the Nepalese citizenship.

Did you even read what I wrote honey? I was not making excuses, I merely pointed out that this third world shithole is still among the better shitholes, just to give you a perspective.

I was not hurt at all. I was not hurt at all, I just found your behavior baffling. And you don't have to bring the guy in here, no one's threatening your safety for all the things you've been saying.

The way you go around in this thread, you seem hell-bent on painting the situation in the country to be worse than it is, that's why I said you were exaggerating. And what response did I get? You sent me a wikipedia link and when I said I already know that, being that about my country, you replied with this ^^.

I know you hate third worlders here and it's quite easy to express that in the forum, you being anonymous. But maybe before going to bed, remember that a huge portion of humanity live in those countries and some of those people are already in your backyard.

There, a long reply. Hoping that made you a happy person, if you're the sort of guy that get a kick out this.

I really hope that this problem is Marawi will soon be over.  It's really sad to see humanity killing each other for the wrong belief.  May our creator protect our President and the soldiers of the Republic to finished this problem.

Since when did you join the leftist social justice warriors? So sad.
Calling me nazi because im calling out facts. Nepal is a 3 world nation with an avg iq of 78.

Nice nazi i am ;)

I really hope that this problem is Marawi will soon be over.  It's really sad to see humanity killing each other for the wrong belief.  May our creator protect our President and the soldiers of the Republic to finished this problem.

Hmm... I am more skeptical about it. Although the Muslims in the Philippines are less than 5% of the total population, there is a large section among them who are prone to radical ideology. Various Islamist organizations have waged war against the central government ever since the 1960s, and as of now I can't see any permanent solution in sight.

,Let us just assume these terrorist that are making a scene in the philippines want to catch the attention of those big time terrorist from other countries or nation, for them also to ask some support from other groups to make their group stronger and to have more soldiers and firearms.

The Philippines is a hardcore Catholic nation, and the rights of other minorities (especially that of the Muslims and Animists) are frequently violated. I heard that there has been lot of attempts to convert the Muslims to Catholicism in Mindanao and Sulu. And this may be the reason why so many of them are rebelling against the government.

,Let us just assume these terrorist that are making a scene in the philippines want to catch the attention of those big time terrorist from other countries or nation, for them also to ask some support from other groups to make their group stronger and to have more soldiers and firearms.

Really? How come, that members such as CoinGrabber are seculars the? "Hardcore catholic" what does that even mean?

Islamic terrorists have killed 1263 people in the last 23 days alone. To equate the threat of ‘right wing terror’ with the mechanized, industrial level bloodshed carried out in the name of Islam is intellectually dishonest and crass.

The Catholic church does have a great deal of influence in the Philippine government, but it is not correct to say that the rights of the other religious minorities are being infringed. Also, the church has lost most of its hold after Duterte was elected as the president. He had a few public spats with the bishops and the deacons. 

God you 70 iq pinoys always need someone to explain it to you 5 times.

You were clearly downplaying the situation in your home country wtf are you talking about?
The picture i linked clearly showed a ridiculous area under terrorist siege.

You even went so far to say that pinoyland is not the worst shithole of all the 3rd world countries lol.
That is just facepalm.

Im exaggerating? It seems you are just delusional about:
Martial law? Terrorist siege? Tbc resistance? Broken judical system (where the fuck do you have to in avg.
go 8 years to jail until you see a judge that checks your case Lol)?
/edit i forgot children soldiers

Dear, i dont (need to) hate 3rd worlders.
3rd world people are hating each other on their own.


Btw. Whats the link with hate and being anonymous? You cant be jailed for expressing your opinion like in duterte land :)

I was talking about just this particular incident which is restricted to a single city and then you included all the Islamist problems we've had in the past decades. Geez, maybe also mention the Commies and territorial spat with China, and us lying along the typhoon belt and the Pacific Ring of Fire, no? You even included tuberculosis which I believe you ranted about in a different thread as if this country is the only one that have that.  ;D We all know about all these shit, yes even the child soldiers - Maute was not the first to use them, heck, even Commies do.

Doesn't sound like it. And you know it, anyone seeing your comments elsewhere do, they just don't reply to you coz you never accept you make any mistake and keep replying till they get tired of talking to you.

Read my first reply to you, the one in orange and ask yourself if that was worth all this.

It's all about giving respect to people and their religion, basically, President Duterte was really talking about the traffic and not the church itself but definitely, he has always been direct to what he wants and he never goes in circle in his words, he talks straight to the point and is game to destroy the evil in the Philippines, Drugs.

This attackers are no longer attention seekers but actually an official affiliate group from the international group called ISIS cause among the dead attackers there said to be foreigners with them that were killed so that omly mean that they've had some support from the ISIS. The president of the Philippines made a wise move to declare martial law to confine the situation and now the battle in mindanao is nearing it's decisive moment and finally this terrorist that is terrorizing, kidnapping and beheading foreigners will finally be stopped. This dangerous people has been neglected from the past administration, right now is the only time it is being resolved.

first congratz that you managed to find out how BB-codes work.

second, it might be hard for your 80 iq to understand but i was talking mainly about two things:

1.) difference of europe and the phillipines

in the context of

2.) radical islam


this "terrorist siege in the Philippines" is the direct consequence of the century old muslim conflict in the PH.
all the things that i mentioned and didnt mentioned are deadly serious and are the reasons why the phillipines are a third world nation.

btw. sure all things eventually existed in history once.
but how the hell do you come to the conclusion that children soldiers arent that bad because commies had them too?  ???


ps:
if all the sig spammers would reply to me i would really be forced to use my ignore button ::)
also hard to believe but there are still more then a handful intelligent people posting on this board :)

I also heard that foreign fighters were among the Islamist rebels in Marawi. How did they got there? I heard that even militants from Chechenya were fighting there. What about the border checks? The Chechens could have traveled by air, and that is the only way they could reach Marawi. Why the Philippine authorities were unable to prevent them from traveling to Mindanao?

Coz they're stupid. They said they knew people involved in this, that they've been tracking those people's activities. And yet here we have the group staging a battle in that city. Sorta like authorities abroad whenever a terrorist attack happen. "The guy's been on our watchlist since [insert year here]". And yet they did nothing. Police and intelligence agencies that has allowed these to happen are just as guilty as the attackers. It's like they killed the victims with their own hands.

Can't blame the authorities for this mess. Philippines is a country of more than 100 million people, and it is not easy monitoring all of them. These foreign fighters might have somehow slipped through the net. Even in the European nations such as the Great Britain and France, terrorist attacks are now frequently occurring despite strict monitoring and surveillance.

Can't blame the authorities for this mess. Philippines is a country of more than 100 million people, and it is not easy monitoring all of them. These foreign fighters might have somehow slipped through the net. Even in the European nations such as the Great Britain and France, terrorist attacks are now frequently occurring despite strict monitoring and surveillance.

Even a secured country can have a hole in it. That can make it not secured. I think there are a lot of ways to enter our country especially we are close to another country. This will be a great lesson for the military and navy of our country.

I agree. It's really difficult to focus on a single intelligence information especially if you got it from a couple of years back. Though there should have been precautions already and I think this could've been prevented. A lot of people are already suffering from what's going on and it seems that this debacle wouldn't be over quite soon despite the Philippine military saying that there are only a few terrorists remaining now.

Yes, a butterfly in New York can make a tsunami in Japan, but that does not mean that the Japan news services are covering the butterfly activity news across the globe. 

If so take as a basis What is happening in each country, it seems to me that today there are no safe countries. It's like in the war, when people consider killed soldiers. And at the same time they understand that for example on the roads in traffic accidents people die much more for the whole day. Therefore, you need to approach everything with loyalty and with a different approach.

Yes, a butterfly in New York can make a tsunami in Japan, but that does not mean that the Japan news services are covering the butterfly activity news across the globe. 

Why is there an inclusion of this in the forum in the first place.  The category was a default one that came with the forum software and the fact that people touch it is pretty funny.

As the day passes by the damage is getting bigger not just on the infrastructure, economics but most especially the emotional damage that the war causes to every civilian who are affected and it seems that this war is not yet closed to an end

Can't blame the authorities for this mess. Philippines is a country of more than 100 million people, and it is not easy monitoring all of them. These foreign fighters might have somehow slipped through the net. Even in the European nations such as the Great Britain and France, terrorist attacks are now frequently occurring despite strict monitoring and surveillance.

Sigh, just admit you exaggerated THIS incident, the one we are talking about on THIS thread. You kept insisting a whole "state" was overrun. When I corrected you, you went on to start pointing at articles and when I told you I know that, you then started accusing me of "downplaying" the WHOLE country's situation and then went on rattling about different stuff like tuberculosis.

I'm also getting tired talking to you and repeating everything. If you want to keep at it at this thread, you are free do so, just don't expect further replies from me. You can even even go ranting about tuberculosis again. We don't behead people for saying stuff here.  ;D

Atleast pinoys are very funnny.
You can stop your 3rd world conspiracies about me having alts.
Which nationality i am is easy to deduct and widely known except you are a 3rd world pinoy with an avg. Iq of 80.

Whats the difference about europe and pinoy utopia?
We have isolated terrorist attacks from radicalised  2nd/3rd generation muslims that kill less people then a public bus per year.
In pinoy utopia the muslim population conquers whole states.

Be more delusional please.

Ps: be grateful i give you the opportunity to spam for money instead of selling shabu

The point is they admitted they were "monitoring" people. I would have understood if they were caught of guard but no, even they said that the arms used by the terrorists were been being piled up way before the attack. Why didn't they move to arrest them right then and there?

Instead they allowed them to to fulfill their plans. For what, for them to be caught red-handed? At the cost of several soldiers and civilians?

Good news, seems ISIS are really losing ground in Iraq, even destroying the mosque from which they declared their caliphate. Guess what other region have terrorist groups itching to declare a caliphate in? Southeast Asia. Looks like these ISIS guys will now have a lusher place to go on a vacation to where they can also kill infidels at the same time.

But I don't think Asia will likely embrace ISIS. The Philippines is fighting terrorism like no other Southeast Asia country is. And I think ISIS will not succeed in the Asian region as well. We don't have a terrain that they can hide their asses off. They can do guerilla warfare, but that strategy alone won't be successful to establish caliphate. Although there are a lot of Muslim country around the region. They are not fundamentalist and radicalized as much as the Middle East so for me that can't and won't succeed in Southeast Asia.

Good news, seems ISIS are really losing ground in Iraq, even destroying the mosque from which they declared their caliphate. Guess what other region have terrorist groups itching to declare a caliphate in? Southeast Asia. Looks like these ISIS guys will now have a lusher place to go on a vacation to where they can also kill infidels at the same time.

But I don't think Asia will likely embrace ISIS. The Philippines is fighting terrorism like no other Southeast Asia country is. And I think ISIS will not succeed in the Asian region as well. We don't have a terrain that they can hide their asses off. They can do guerilla warfare, but that strategy alone won't be successful to establish caliphate. Although there are a lot of Muslim country around the region. They are not fundamentalist and radicalized as much as the Middle East so for me that can't and won't succeed in Southeast Asia.

The have lost territory steadily for the past 12-13 months. They are about to lose two of the most important cities under their control (Raqqa and Mosul). But the question is what is going to be next, if the ISIS can be completely eliminated from Iraq/Syria. The Americans will never support Assad, so I don't foresee any end to the civil war.

There are plenty of these groups in Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia. They are all just waiting for the right moment. Some of these groups have called for a SE Asian caliphate decades before ISIS appeared in Iraq. Muslims from these countries went to Iraq and Syria to fight for ISIS and now they are all going to come back home.

And don't belittle their support from the grassroots. Just look at the Filipino Muslims cheering for Maute on FB. Their religious leaders has now surface almost a month after the conflict started, asking for tolerance, blah, blah, blah and and end to airstrikes and lifting of the martial  law. You bet they'd be singing a different tune had they actually won. Venomous sand snakes.  >:(

Yup, and now it's Australia that is worried that when the birds come to roost, there'll be trouble close to home.  http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/risks-to-indonesia-after-islamic-state-attack-in-philippines/news-story/7cfbb1edeb4f25a523ac1a15fb8b5816

After all, Indonesia is quickly Islamizing, though I suppose it would be harder to fully transform like what happened to formerly secular Turkey.

Female hostages of the Maute group in Marawi City are being forced into sex slavery and marriage with some of the terrorist fighters, the military said on Tuesday.

“The worst thing is there are cases of female hostages forced to marry the Maute local terrorist group so they are being forced for sex slave, or forced to destroy the dignity of these women,” Joint Task Force Marawi spokesperson Lt. Col. Jo-Ar Herrera said in a televised press briefing.

Government troops have also rescued seven hostages on Monday.

While in captivity, the hostages were tasked to loot houses and establishments for ammunition, firearms, gold, cash, and jewelries, Herrera said.

“Hostages were issued firearms, pinipilit nila ‘yung mga hostages to bring firearms so fino-force nila to fight government security forces,” he said.

“Pinipilit din nila that the hostages were forced to ‘balik-Islam,’ or revert to Islam, and also tasked to bring wounded terrorists to mosques,” he added.

The hostages, who were rescued after being held for about three weeks, have also claimed to have seen vicar general of the prelature of Marawi Fr. Chito Suganob alive.

Terrorists have offered to free Suganob in exchange for the parents of the Maute brothers, who have been arrested by authorities in separate occasions early this month. The government, however, rejected the offer, saying that they don’t negotiate with terrorists. JE