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May 30, 2017, 04:04:38 AM
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Just a recent update about the current situation here. Due to martial law things are now starting tp get better. As per news only 20% of the said affected areas left that is being undertaken by the terrorist
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May 30, 2017, 04:16:28 AM
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They are not ISIS they are just attention seeker they want to get the attention of international group called "ISIS" to have fund to their activities they are the Maute groups the one who plant a bomb on night market davao hoping that after the declaration president duterte will force all his trops to kills those animals who killed 9 christians already.



Participating and grieving for the families who get the disaster, why there are still affected by things that hurt others, we know that any religion does not teach like that.
Grieving for families who get calamities.

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May 30, 2017, 04:20:06 AM
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They are not ISIS they are just attention seeker they want to get the attention of international group called "ISIS" to have fund to their activities they are the Maute groups the one who plant a bomb on night market davao hoping that after the declaration president duterte will force all his trops to kills those animals who killed 9 christians already.



Participating and grieving for the families who get the disaster, why there are still affected by things that hurt others, we know that any religion does not teach like that.
Grieving for families who get calamities.

We really cant tell. You know that they thinks very different from us that is merely the reason why they do things that is uncertain for us. The only thing that we could do right now is to pray for everyones safety
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May 30, 2017, 04:20:41 AM
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While someone was trying to explode himself on a building full of teens in Manchester, a terrorist group claiming to be an ISIS affiliate attacked a city in southern Philippines. The Philippine president has already declared martial law on the whole Mindanao (second largest island where Marawi city is located) while in Russia.

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/05/23/marawi-city-clash.html

The issue about terrorism has gotten so bad that it is not even only the Arab world that are feeling the pain any longer as it is even spreading to every where in the world. From Europe to Asia to Africa among other continents of the world but the bone of contention is the collateral damage  all of this where innocent citizens that does not even know the way government works who does not even vote in elections gets to suffer for it while the people in power making the policies are largely untouchable.
Today they measure the Arab by one measure and they are almost identical for each person. Although it is necessary to understand here and there that not all Arabs are terrorists, but that's what they think

Perhaps in your enlightement, sir, you should first learn that muslims living in Phillipines are not Arabs  Wink Arabs are ethno-cultural group, Islam is organized religion. Two different things. Thank you.

Seeing the thing that is happening with the Philippines, it's really concerning. The group that wants to be noticed and somehow manages to get some firearms for abuse (we don't know where they got it but definitely somewhere where and a way that's illegal. I just hope that the people that are innocent there are safe and the soldiers would be able to apprehend the terrorists because it's alarming. What's sad about is that the individuals in the other parts of the country are trying to boycott the issued martial law, even knowing that they are not there. They should just spread the love.

Moros have many relatives in muslim Indonesia  Wink also as sunni muslim they probadly get some sort of financial help from Gulf states. ISIS is not the only child of Saudi Arabia.

Seeing the thing that is happening with the Philippines, it's really concerning. The group that wants to be noticed and somehow manages to get some firearms for abuse (we don't know where they got it but definitely somewhere where and a way that's illegal. I just hope that the people that are innocent there are safe and the soldiers would be able to apprehend the terrorists because it's alarming. What's sad about is that the individuals in the other parts of the country are trying to boycott the issued martial law, even knowing that they are not there. They should just spread the love.
those people who still criticizing the declaration of martial are those who doesn't know well the situation and why this law is needed inside mindanao
as they are all just helping the terrorist in terms of gathering attention in an international media, they are just speculating misconception  with the good intention of the president, they are not helping to resolve the issue but giving the maute group some leaning shoulders to catch more international terrorist to help them.

Unfortunately, you are probadly right. Now, that the situation already escalated government needs to use as much force as possible to restore peace and order.
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May 30, 2017, 08:15:14 AM
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This crisis has escalated beyond my wildest expectation. More than a hundred people have lost their lives till now, and the army has lost a number of their armored vehicles. Who would have expected this, in a country where less than 5% of the population is Muslim?

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May 30, 2017, 08:51:19 AM
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This crisis has escalated beyond my wildest expectation. More than a hundred people have lost their lives till now, and the army has lost a number of their armored vehicles. Who would have expected this, in a country where less than 5% of the population is Muslim?

Weve already know that this kind of act are already happening between our brother muslims and the government of the philippines since back then and things are getting worse each and everyday
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This crisis has escalated beyond my wildest expectation. More than a hundred people have lost their lives till now, and the army has lost a number of their armored vehicles. Who would have expected this, in a country where less than 5% of the population is Muslim?

Curiously there was a drop in Islamist-inspired attacks in Thailand since the junta took over. Sigh, maybe that is really the only way to deal with them. They did behaved themselves when the Americans were in control of the country.

Many of the originally Muslim areas in the Philippines are just on the part of the island, the rest were populated by animists who moved up to the mountains to avoid conflict with the Muslims (as well as Christian settlers later). We've never stopped negotiating with these groups. Once we're done with one, another offshot comes out of the former and asks for more. We already gave them some autonomy. We POURED money from the more affluent regions but nothing ever came out of it.

At the risk of sounding ethnocentric, the culture is partly to blame. If you think the Catholic Filipino are easily corruptible, you have to look down south. Their politicians are basically their old nobility and act as such. There were even places were politicians run unopposed because everyone in the local government is a member of the clan and they'd just have a family meeting to select who will run for office. We call them clannish for a good reason. Seen it personally for my self. Some woman got into a fight with a Muslim woman and soon she was being mobbed by all the women of the clan. And this is here in the capital, just imagine if it was in their home base.

It also doesn't help that they still have a warrior mentality. These people are armed and some even bring this culture when moving to Christian areas. Entire towns would have to be evacuated just because some families decided to revive an old feud (yup this happens even in Christian areas since Muslims build ghettos around mosques and eventually wall up the place). They say their religion allows them to do this, to hunt after people who killed a family member or "dishonored" their family. As expected, this starts a vicious cycle of vendetta which would scare out even the most intrepid investor.

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Last I saw in the news the army has already recaptured a large portion of the city. Can't be complacent though. When Islamists attacked Zamboanga, they fled on boats back to their island hideouts, ready to fight another day. These terrorists must be shot where they are found so as not to commit the same atrocities again.

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Last I saw in the news the army has already recaptured a large portion of the city. Can't be complacent though. When Islamists attacked Zamboanga, they fled on boats back to their island hideouts, ready to fight another day. These terrorists must be shot where they are found so as not to commit the same atrocities again.

Those who live by the sword, dies by the sword.

Nip the issue in the bud, even if it means hundreds of casualties and collateral damage. The Islamists must not be allowed to get a foothold in Mindanao. If that happens, then there will be no peace in the distant future. Just finish them.

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UPDATE: Turns out, there were foreign fighters in there like we earlier expected. Heck, there was even a Chechen.

http://www.interaksyon.com/8-of-33-slain-terrorists-are-foreigners-others-mostly-from-western-mindanao/
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This crisis has escalated beyond my wildest expectation. More than a hundred people have lost their lives till now, and the army has lost a number of their armored vehicles. Who would have expected this, in a country where less than 5% of the population is Muslim?

Curiously there was a drop in Islamist-inspired attacks in Thailand since the junta took over. Sigh, maybe that is really the only way to deal with them. They did behaved themselves when the Americans were in control of the country.

Many of the originally Muslim areas in the Philippines are just on the part of the island, the rest were populated by animists who moved up to the mountains to avoid conflict with the Muslims (as well as Christian settlers later). We've never stopped negotiating with these groups. Once we're done with one, another offshot comes out of the former and asks for more. We already gave them some autonomy. We POURED money from the more affluent regions but nothing ever came out of it.

At the risk of sounding ethnocentric, the culture is partly to blame. If you think the Catholic Filipino are easily corruptible, you have to look down south. Their politicians are basically their old nobility and act as such. There were even places were politicians run unopposed because everyone in the local government is a member of the clan and they'd just have a family meeting to select who will run for office. We call them clannish for a good reason. Seen it personally for my self. Some woman got into a fight with a Muslim woman and soon she was being mobbed by all the women of the clan. And this is here in the capital, just imagine if it was in their home base.

It also doesn't help that they still have a warrior mentality. These people are armed and some even bring this culture when moving to Christian areas. Entire towns would have to be evacuated just because some families decided to revive an old feud (yup this happens even in Christian areas since Muslims build ghettos around mosques and eventually wall up the place). They say their religion allows them to do this, to hunt after people who killed a family member or "dishonored" their family. As expected, this starts a vicious cycle of vendetta which would scare out even the most intrepid investor.



The failure of the colonizers from the past in christening the entire Philippine archipelago leads as to what it is now. The Mindanao was the one who have not been successfully Christianize then here it goes the Muslim rebels fighting for what they believe in saying that this is what the Quran  said then other Muslims would say that this is not what Quran is teaching and etc. The Islam is a messed up religion after the death of their prophet Muhammad and a lot of factions has rise up. Greed of power also rise up as they want to become a leader of the entire Muslim community by establishing caliphate and become a caliph with the full control of the military and political affairs of all the Muslim around the world that is the goal of this nonsensical ISIS. This is very frustrating.

The political dynasty in Mindanao have grown huge and wild but now the president who have a great political will will punish those who are corrupt, reduce the criminality, and subdue these terrorists while making the country prosper.
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UPDATE: Turns out, there were foreign fighters in there like we earlier expected. Heck, there was even a Chechen.

http://www.interaksyon.com/8-of-33-slain-terrorists-are-foreigners-others-mostly-from-western-mindanao/

Which supports the notion, that local muslims are only used as resources in global jihad. The epicenter of terror in Philipines is not on any of local islands. But in petrodollars of Saudi Arabia, that has been backing ISIS since its inception.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-email-isis-saudi-arabia-qatar-us-allies-funding-barack-obama-knew-all-a7362071.html

I wonder why nobody calls out the great humanitarian and democratic hope Hillary Clinton over this?

They are not ISIS they are just attention seeker they want to get the attention of international group called "ISIS" to have fund to their activities they are the Maute groups the one who plant a bomb on night market davao hoping that after the declaration president duterte will force all his trops to kills those animals who killed 9 christians already.



Participating and grieving for the families who get the disaster, why there are still affected by things that hurt others, we know that any religion does not teach like that.
Grieving for families who get calamities.

We really cant tell. You know that they thinks very different from us that is merely the reason why they do things that is uncertain for us. The only thing that we could do right now is to pray for everyones safety

Praying is good, international blockade of sponsors of ISIS supporters is even better. If United States are too corrupt to sanction Saudi Arabia for state sponsored terorrism, than Phillipinos need to do it themselves. Foreign fighters spreading fear on archipelago are not funded by locals...
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UPDATE: Turns out, there were foreign fighters in there like we earlier expected. Heck, there was even a Chechen.

http://www.interaksyon.com/8-of-33-slain-terrorists-are-foreigners-others-mostly-from-western-mindanao/

That is bad news. Because the Chechens are the most effective fighting force within the ISIS. The recent setbacks suffered by the ISIS in Syria can be directly attributed to the death of high ranking Chechen commanders, such as Abu Omar al-Shishani. They have decades of experience fighting against the Russian army.

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June 01, 2017, 10:14:21 AM
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UPDATE: Turns out, there were foreign fighters in there like we earlier expected. Heck, there was even a Chechen.

http://www.interaksyon.com/8-of-33-slain-terrorists-are-foreigners-others-mostly-from-western-mindanao/

That is bad news. Because the Chechens are the most effective fighting force within the ISIS. The recent setbacks suffered by the ISIS in Syria can be directly attributed to the death of high ranking Chechen commanders, such as Abu Omar al-Shishani. They have decades of experience fighting against the Russian army.

Of course because they are now part of ISIS they now then have the support of ISIS which also have a most of the support of the other tribe or terror group around the world so this one didnt shock me at all
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June 01, 2017, 10:45:40 AM
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This crisis has escalated beyond my wildest expectation. More than a hundred people have lost their lives till now, and the army has lost a number of their armored vehicles. Who would have expected this, in a country where less than 5% of the population is Muslim?

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The failure of the colonizers from the past in christening the entire Philippine archipelago leads as to what it is now. The Mindanao was the one who have not been successfully Christianize then here it goes the Muslim rebels fighting for what they believe in saying that this is what the Quran  said then other Muslims would say that this is not what Quran is teaching and etc. The Islam is a messed up religion after the death of their prophet Muhammad and a lot of factions has rise up. Greed of power also rise up as they want to become a leader of the entire Muslim community by establishing caliphate and become a caliph with the full control of the military and political affairs of all the Muslim around the world that is the goal of this nonsensical ISIS. This is very frustrating.

The political dynasty in Mindanao have grown huge and wild but now the president who have a great political will will punish those who are corrupt, reduce the criminality, and subdue these terrorists while making the country prosper.

It's part and parcel of the faith. This is what I keep pointing out to people who keep insisting this has nothing to do with religion. There were several provinces that separately declared independence when Spain left, before being incorporated to the first republic (the one America fought with and dismantled). Do you see separatist movements there? There are also Christian provinces that are as poor, if not poorer, than Muslim areas of Mindanao. Are they launching a war of secession?

UPDATE: Turns out, there were foreign fighters in there like we earlier expected. Heck, there was even a Chechen.

http://www.interaksyon.com/8-of-33-slain-terrorists-are-foreigners-others-mostly-from-western-mindanao/

That is bad news. Because the Chechens are the most effective fighting force within the ISIS. The recent setbacks suffered by the ISIS in Syria can be directly attributed to the death of high ranking Chechen commanders, such as Abu Omar al-Shishani. They have decades of experience fighting against the Russian army.

Maybe we should really start coordinating with the Russians then. They're at least familiar with these.



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June 01, 2017, 10:48:49 AM
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A muslim friend who lived there told me that this Maute group are actually a group of a clan whose relatiive ran for Marawi city mayor and lost. They are doing this for political reasons mixed with Isis muscle flexing.
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A recent update. Just this morning 10 of our beloved army has again fallen and the sad part was that they died because of an accident friendly fre. When an air strike was being performed pray for them
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While someone was trying to explode himself on a building full of teens in Manchester, a terrorist group claiming to be an ISIS affiliate attacked a city in southern Philippines. The Philippine president has already declared martial law on the whole Mindanao (second largest island where Marawi city is located) while in Russia.

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/05/23/marawi-city-clash.html

I think it's a good thing he declared martial law, I do believe that martial law can be a good strategy for peace and discipline if it is use right.
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While someone was trying to explode himself on a building full of teens in Manchester, a terrorist group claiming to be an ISIS affiliate attacked a city in southern Philippines. The Philippine president has already declared martial law on the whole Mindanao (second largest island where Marawi city is located) while in Russia.

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/05/23/marawi-city-clash.html

I think it's a good thing he declared martial law, I do believe that martial law can be a good strategy for peace and discipline if it is use right.

Yeah, I agree every one is afraid of martial law because of the Marcos regime but the truth is that it's actually a good tactic for peace and discipline.
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Since the last time I checked this news, the terrorists seems to be weak and weak after all. According to the military, they take over 90% of the Marawi City. Hopefully the terrorists would surrender to the police. Hopefully this tragedy would be solve. Let's just pray for the country.



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