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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Zaizoun on May 28, 2017, 09:39:58 PM



Title: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Zaizoun on May 28, 2017, 09:39:58 PM
What happened: So, I posted 2 days ago a topic about my tx being stuck . Hours later , Nachius contacted me and told me he could help me resolving the issue . He also told me that he will configure his pc to mine my transaction (he wants to mine it solo) and told me that it would cost me 16% of the amount of btc transacted (~1.83BTC) So I would have to pay 0.292 BTC .  I accepted because i thought he will use from his time to set up his pc , include it in a pool and use electricity , So I was okay to pay that amount . But after some minutes , the tx confirmed but it shows btc.com .
 I'm pretty sure he used pushtx.btc.com and paid 5$ . He literally lied to me and didn't mine it solo ! Furthermore he posted two reps on my account , because he tried to scam  ??? ??? ??? . Nevermind , here are the chats so you can understand . (Forgot to mention that users wanted also to access my blockchain wallet to do as he said a double spend ,
 and import my priv keys as well )

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138601

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1936414.msg19228324#msg19228324

PM/Chat Logs:
http://imgur.com/a/aJotw
If you want to read text format : https://pastebin.com/eNLXTZQ2

Additional Notes: As well , Nachius in the end that he paid btc.com and he didn't mine it solo . he told me that he paid 0.1 to btc.com but the tx was 226 bytes and I already estimated the price in btc.com and it was ~5$
tx : https://blockchain.info/tx/6def5e3cf1446c688a6d90c611e93ba35d95c3f7412d061009b39c711f555967


Btw , I want this user to prove he is the owner of this account by signing an old address
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1907590.msg18928682#msg18928682



Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Zaizoun on May 28, 2017, 09:43:34 PM
By the way, when you're reading the conversation ,
Nachius told me to move my btc and told me to give access to my blockchain acc .
but , he knew that if I move the btc , the tx will never be confirmed (because of an unconfirmed parent) and this they will return back


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: onnz423 on May 28, 2017, 09:48:57 PM
You agreed to pay him the amount. Maybe he was hiding some things, but you agreed to pay him the amount you promised to pay.
But on the other hand, he said that "ViaBTC and all of that shit does not work" which is basically lying and not even hiding anything.
I would say maybe you can settle for a much lower amount, since he was being very dishonest but you still kind of owe him.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: hexafraction on May 28, 2017, 09:52:00 PM
Just want to weigh in a bit, because I was originally helping the OP with their transaction, when it got confirmed partway through my communication with the OP (supposedly by nachius). That in itself is not a problem; I recognize that the approach I was taking took longer than it took to confirm the transaction by other means. However, I have some concerns about the fact that he requested private keys from you.

There's no reason for him to have requested private keys to create a double-spend; the only sensible thing to do is for him to construct the unsigned transaction and provide it to you for you to sign on your end. The fact that he asked for your private keys is a bit off, since such requests are not made/met lightly, especially not over the Internet to strangers. However, I cannot vouch for the truth of anything else mentioned on either side since I didn't communicate directly with nachius at any point.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Zaizoun on May 28, 2017, 09:56:44 PM
You agreed to pay him the amount. Maybe he was hiding some things, but you agreed to pay him the amount you promised to pay.
But on the other hand, he said that "ViaBTC and all of that shit does not work" which is basically lying and not even hiding anything.
I would say maybe you can settle for a much lower amount, since he was being very dishonest but you still kind of owe him.
I agreed to pay the amount cause i thought this was the only solution and that he would do provide hard efforts to mine my tx with his own pc.
Besides , after I discover that the user was lying , I accepted to pay what he initially paid to btc.com

I'm okay with the rep he put to me because no one can delete it , but this user doesn't deserve to be part of the DT team


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: necromastery on May 28, 2017, 10:01:21 PM
"I'm pretty sure he used pushtx.btc.com and paid 5$" Where is the proof of this?
Uncompleted scam accusation  ::)


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Zaizoun on May 28, 2017, 10:12:45 PM
"I'm pretty sure he used pushtx.btc.com and paid 5$" Where is the proof of this?
Uncompleted scam accusation  ::)
Hey , please read the entire conversation before commenting
http://imgur.com/a/QsqDd


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Zaizoun on May 28, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
Just noticed Nachius has a neg rep from a user today stating :
 
"This individual scammed me $250 for Amazon gift cards. Been waiting over a week to receive the payment keeps coming up with excuses. Deal with EXTREME CAUTION. Will remove if he ever decides to pay up.

"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138601

I invite this user to open a scam accusation as well


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 28, 2017, 10:21:02 PM
Just noticed Nachius has a neg rep from a user today stating :
 
"This individual scammed me $250 for Amazon gift cards. Been waiting over a week to receive the payment keeps coming up with excuses. Deal with EXTREME CAUTION. Will remove if he ever decides to pay up.

"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138601

I invite this user to open a scam accusation as well
Yeah but there's not a valid reference link.  If you looked at my red trust before seeking a reference,  you would also say I was a scammer.   Curious how this turns out.

Edit: Didn't know he was on DT.  My trust list is customized.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Zaizoun on May 28, 2017, 10:24:35 PM
Just noticed Nachius has a neg rep from a user today stating :
 
"This individual scammed me $250 for Amazon gift cards. Been waiting over a week to receive the payment keeps coming up with excuses. Deal with EXTREME CAUTION. Will remove if he ever decides to pay up.

"

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138601

I invite this user to open a scam accusation as well
Yeah but there's not a valid reference link.  If you looked at my red trust before seeking a reference,  you would also say I was a scammer.   Curious how this turns out.
This is why I invited him to open a scam acc and post his proofs .
Nevermind , Nachius should be removed from DT team because he lies and tries scam me (selling me something that costs 5$ for 600$=)


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Zaizoun on May 29, 2017, 01:54:58 AM
Any solution ?
i'm sure this is a hacked account !
PROOF OF WHAT HE PAID TO BTC.COM
http://imgur.com/a/OAm1y


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: nachius on May 29, 2017, 02:12:34 AM
Half of this is a lie, half is the truth.

ViaBTC does work, what I was telling him is that the odds of getting the transaction confirmed soon was low. We made an exchange:
My job was to confirm his transaction within a short period of time. His job was to pay up the 0.292 BTC. The transaction was confirmed via pushtx.btc.com, and shortly thereafter, Zaizoun went offline. A few hours after that, still without a response, Zaizoun removed me and blocked me. This is without knowing anything about how it was confirmed. This is how I know Zaizoun had no intentions of paying.

After leaving a negative for me, Zaizoun began making excuses. He tried to make up some lies about how he should not pay, etc. To get to the point, I left a negative because Zaizoun is clearly not to be trusted.

As for my side, I did my part. I confirmed the transaction, whether it cost me $10,000 to do so, or $0.01, Zaizoun was to pay me 0.292 BTC to confirm it. I did in fact use pushtx.btc.com, however Zaizoun should have no issue with this if he stuck to his word.

Since then, Zaizoun has repeatedly blocked communications with me, made up lies, and is trying to make me look like the "scammer" to try and get his red trust removed. His actions are completely untrustworthy, and although from my side I have not dealt with him in the best way, this user has been so extremely hard to deal with that I have no other options but to act aggressively in return. Until the 0.292 is repaid, the trust sticks. Making up more lies will not help. Whether I played a trick on you or not, a deal is a deal.




Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Zaizoun on May 29, 2017, 02:26:00 AM
Half of this is a lie, half is the truth.

ViaBTC does work, what I was telling him is that the odds of getting the transaction confirmed soon was low. We made an exchange:
My job was to confirm his transaction within a short period of time. His job was to pay up the 0.292 BTC. The transaction was confirmed via pushtx.btc.com, and shortly thereafter, Zaizoun went offline. A few hours after that, still without a response, Zaizoun removed me and blocked me. This is without knowing anything about how it was confirmed. This is how I know Zaizoun had no intentions of paying.

After leaving a negative for me, Zaizoun began making excuses. He tried to make up some lies about how he should not pay, etc. To get to the point, I left a negative because Zaizoun is clearly not to be trusted.

As for my side, I did my part. I confirmed the transaction, whether it cost me $10,000 to do so, or $0.01, Zaizoun was to pay me 0.292 BTC to confirm it. I did in fact use pushtx.btc.com, however Zaizoun should have no issue with this if he stuck to his word.

Since then, Zaizoun has repeatedly blocked communications with me, made up lies, and is trying to make me look like the "scammer" to try and get his red trust removed. His actions are completely untrustworthy, and although from my side I have not dealt with him in the best way, this user has been so extremely hard to deal with that I have no other options but to act aggressively in return. Until the 0.292 is repaid, the trust sticks. Making up more lies will not help. Whether I played a trick on you or not, a deal is a deal.



I didn't block you nor delete you as I've screened the conversation and put it here .
You Don't owe me anything because you told me no tool like viabtc or others work . But you used one of these tools to confirm this tx.
This is called lying dude.

Besides , this user puts a second neg rep to me  ??? Stating that I'm a blackmailer and shit?
Can I know how can I be a blackmailer and a hacker as you say when you wants to take my private keys lol?


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 29, 2017, 02:35:34 AM
whether it cost me $10,000 to do so, or $0.01, Zaizoun was to pay me 0.292 BTC to confirm it.
None of this concerns me, but this is a disingenuous attitude to take in general as it justifies ripping someone off.  It just isn't honest.  And if what he said was true, you mislead him into believing something didn't work so that you could overcharge him for your thing.  That's what it looks like from a disinterested 3rd party, and I've said enough.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: bitcoin revo on May 29, 2017, 02:50:47 AM
Did you (nachius) do the same thing to this poor guy (http://prntscr.com/fd8bf0)?

The fact that you intentionally lied to these people that'd you solo mine (and thus exaggerating the required price way above necessary), pulling $500+ for a much cheaper btc.com push and attempting to justify this makes me question why you're on DT2.

IMO, the fair resolution would be for Zaizoun to pay nachius the amount required by btc.com to confirm the transaction.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: nachius on May 29, 2017, 02:56:02 AM
Half of this is a lie, half is the truth.

ViaBTC does work, what I was telling him is that the odds of getting the transaction confirmed soon was low. We made an exchange:
My job was to confirm his transaction within a short period of time. His job was to pay up the 0.292 BTC. The transaction was confirmed via pushtx.btc.com, and shortly thereafter, Zaizoun went offline. A few hours after that, still without a response, Zaizoun removed me and blocked me. This is without knowing anything about how it was confirmed. This is how I know Zaizoun had no intentions of paying.

After leaving a negative for me, Zaizoun began making excuses. He tried to make up some lies about how he should not pay, etc. To get to the point, I left a negative because Zaizoun is clearly not to be trusted.

As for my side, I did my part. I confirmed the transaction, whether it cost me $10,000 to do so, or $0.01, Zaizoun was to pay me 0.292 BTC to confirm it. I did in fact use pushtx.btc.com, however Zaizoun should have no issue with this if he stuck to his word.

Since then, Zaizoun has repeatedly blocked communications with me, made up lies, and is trying to make me look like the "scammer" to try and get his red trust removed. His actions are completely untrustworthy, and although from my side I have not dealt with him in the best way, this user has been so extremely hard to deal with that I have no other options but to act aggressively in return. Until the 0.292 is repaid, the trust sticks. Making up more lies will not help. Whether I played a trick on you or not, a deal is a deal.



I didn't block you nor delete you as I've screened the conversation and put it here .
You Don't owe me anything because you told me no tool like viabtc or others work . But you used one of these tools to confirm this tx.
This is called lying dude.

Besides , this user puts a second neg rep to me  ??? Stating that I'm a blackmailer and shit?
Can I know how can I be a blackmailer and a hacker as you say when you wants to take my private keys lol?


Didn't delete me, right: https://gyazo.com/c9cd57b25ad244dbb04196614d50fb1f

I was originally going to mine it myself. You were giving me a damn hard time so I decided to take the cheaper option. You are a blackmailer. You are refusing to even send what I paid to btc.com. You said if I remove the trust, you will remove all the lies and posts that you put here. That is blackmail.

You deserve negative trust regardless, you had no intentions to pay 0.292 BTC in the first place. I legitimately wanted to help you until you started lying and bullshitting. If you want to fix things up, stop blaming me and pay-up.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Zaizoun on May 29, 2017, 02:58:42 AM
Did you (nachius) do the same thing to this poor guy (http://prntscr.com/fd8bf0)?

The fact that you intentionally lied to these people that'd you solo mine (and thus exaggerating the required price way above necessary), pulling $500+ for a much cheaper btc.com push and attempting to justify this makes me question why you're on DT2.

IMO, the fair resolution would be for Zaizoun to pay nachius the amount required by btc.com to confirm the transaction.
I already suggested to pay him what he paid to btc.com but he is still lying all the way.
https://i.imgur.com/Y5vH12Q_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
 (he told me he paid 0.1 btc to btc.com)
 
But :  http://imgur.com/a/OAm1y ( the real price )

Edit : I deleted you and blocked you 20 minutes ago . Let the community decide


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: nachius on May 29, 2017, 03:05:46 AM
Did you (nachius) do the same thing to this poor guy (http://prntscr.com/fd8bf0)?

The fact that you intentionally lied to these people that'd you solo mine (and thus exaggerating the required price way above necessary), pulling $500+ for a much cheaper btc.com push and attempting to justify this makes me question why you're on DT2.

IMO, the fair resolution would be for Zaizoun to pay nachius the amount required by btc.com to confirm the transaction.
I already suggested to pay him what he paid to btc.com but he is still lying all the way.
https://i.imgur.com/Y5vH12Q_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
 (he told me he paid 0.1 btc to btc.com)
 
But :  http://imgur.com/a/OAm1y ( the real price )

Edit : I deleted you and blocked you 20 minutes ago . Let the community decide

No, you deleted and blocked me many times.

I said it was 0.1 to try and get a part of the 0.292 you owe me. I did not try to scam you in any way. You wanted to pay 0.292 for the service, so I told you I could do it for 0.292. You owe 0.292, nothing less. I did tell you I'd accept what I paid to btc.com (which was not $5) but you are still refusing.

Would you like to pay it?


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Zaizoun on May 29, 2017, 03:16:33 AM
Did you (nachius) do the same thing to this poor guy (http://prntscr.com/fd8bf0)?

The fact that you intentionally lied to these people that'd you solo mine (and thus exaggerating the required price way above necessary), pulling $500+ for a much cheaper btc.com push and attempting to justify this makes me question why you're on DT2.

IMO, the fair resolution would be for Zaizoun to pay nachius the amount required by btc.com to confirm the transaction.
I already suggested to pay him what he paid to btc.com but he is still lying all the way.
https://i.imgur.com/Y5vH12Q_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high
 (he told me he paid 0.1 btc to btc.com)
 
But :  http://imgur.com/a/OAm1y ( the real price )

Edit : I deleted you and blocked you 20 minutes ago . Let the community decide

No, you deleted and blocked me many times.

I said it was 0.1 to try and get a part of the 0.292 you owe me. I did not try to scam you in any way. You wanted to pay 0.292 for the service, so I told you I could do it for 0.292. You owe 0.292, nothing less. I did tell you I'd accept what I paid to btc.com (which was not $5) but you are still refusing.

Would you like to pay it?
The tx size wzs 226 bytes.
Btc.com would charge exactly 4.xx$ ^^'.
I already sent a screenshot with what btc.com would charge me .


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Avirunes on May 29, 2017, 03:26:53 AM
whether it cost me $10,000 to do so, or $0.01, Zaizoun was to pay me 0.292 BTC to confirm it.
As a deal, Zaizoun should honour it by paying the agreed amount of 0.292 BTC. The deal was agreed by both of them at their own consent and they were fully aware of deal terms. Also nachius asked him twice.

As for nachius being in DT  it also isn't ethical to rip someone off by charging that high for which he himself paid low. I didn't expected such behaviour from a DT member.


IMO, the fair resolution would be for Zaizoun to pay nachius the amount required by btc.com to confirm the transaction.

That would be better. :)


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: DarkStar_ on May 29, 2017, 03:44:30 AM
I find it very hard to believe that nachius had any intention of solo mining it. I did not look at their conversation (hard to do on mobile), so I'll assume what Zaizoun said is true.

nachius, what miners do you use and can you prove you control the hashrate by signing a message to an address that gets payments from a pool? Zaizoun said that you said you would set up your computer, which makes 0 sense. Avalon 6+ (not sure about lower) require a Raspberry Pi, and does not need a computer. The newer (AntMiner 7+) Bitmain machines don't require you to set up your computer. It sounds like you were going to CPU mine a block, which would take thousands if not longer if years.

I don't think you (nachius) ever had an intention to mine it.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: KlengenFazat on May 29, 2017, 05:01:17 AM
What i think happend here is very simple and easy.....

nachius tought oh a "newbie" who have no idea how to check who did mine the block, so why not try and get a few bitcoins for free...........

his account is 100% bought or he will come later and tell us 'i got hacked story' a shame someone like him is on default trust...........


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: xypos on May 29, 2017, 07:14:47 AM
It should be obvious to anyone that nachius probably doesn't solo mine. Solo mining takes a lot of hashpower and i doubt that anyone on this forum have hashpower to mine it themselves with a high probability.

However Zaizoun agreed to the terms. It was his fault for not checking on other sites before getting ripped off by nachius. If he checked pushtx.btc.com beforehand he would have discovered a much cheaper option. I believe that once you agree to something, you commit to it and no matter what happens unless it's something illegal you go through with it.

Still, nachius is a rip-off.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: KlengenFazat on May 29, 2017, 08:49:51 AM
His account is bought or hacked, check the big gap from 2014 to 2017 and in seclog the password-email reset i am on mobile now i will post all later

Oh and read all the chat he try to convince the user to give him the privat keys from his wallet that contain 2.x bitcoins he  bring up the fact that he is df user and trusted


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: necromastery on May 29, 2017, 09:38:50 AM
Sounds like he ( Nachius ) cheating on  doing that task and wanna gain big profit instead  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: onnz423 on May 29, 2017, 09:49:43 AM
I find it very hard to believe that nachius had any intention of solo mining it. I did not look at their conversation (hard to do on mobile), so I'll assume what Zaizoun said is true.

nachius, what miners do you use and can you prove you control the hashrate by signing a message to an address that gets payments from a pool? Zaizoun said that you said you would set up your computer, which makes 0 sense. Avalon 6+ (not sure about lower) require a Raspberry Pi, and does not need a computer. The newer (AntMiner 7+) Bitmain machines don't require you to set up your computer. It sounds like you were going to CPU mine a block, which would take thousands if not longer if years.

I don't think you (nachius) ever had an intention to mine it.

Yeah, i do not think that he was going to legimately really mine it on the first place. Asking 0.29BTC for such a thing is ridicolous, and shady and unmoral to my eyes.
Gladly OP did not pay anything to this kind of person.

Sounds like he ( Nachius ) cheating on  doing that task and wanna gain big profit instead  ;D ;D ;D

Yeah i think the same think. I think Nachius does not deserve to  be on DT list, because that should be only for trusted members and not for people who try to take advantage of other people.
If you check the conversation, Nachius says "ViaBTC and all of that shit does not work" so he lied straight forward to OP's face, which could be considered some form of taking advantage of/ or scamming.
I would understand if he asked like 10$ for confirming the transaction, but asking for 622$ is wrong. Let's hope Nachius get's punished for his actions.
Ps. OP next time, please do not make a deal before you are sure that you are willing to pay the amount you agreed to. You both are guilty basically.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Hatcher on May 29, 2017, 11:32:25 AM
Well, you agreed to pay .292 to get your transaction confirmed. Your transaction got confirmed. So, you owe the money. It doesn't matter how it gets done, you should've done your own research before you agreed to this deal and get taken advantage of.

The fact that you're not paying actually makes you a scammer. Your transaction got confirmed due to it being accelerated which needed to be done one way or another. Nachius' behavior is clearly predatory, but you're a noob so you should expect to get preyed upon and do your research before believing any some smooth-talking charlatan who comes your way offering a 'solution'.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Zaizoun on May 29, 2017, 12:39:09 PM
Well, you agreed to pay .292 to get your transaction confirmed. Your transaction got confirmed. So, you owe the money. It doesn't matter how it gets done, you should've done your own research before you agreed to this deal and get taken advantage of.

The fact that you're not paying actually makes you a scammer. Your transaction got confirmed due to it being accelerated which needed to be done one way or another. Nachius' behavior is clearly predatory, but you're a noob so you should expect to get preyed upon and do your research before believing any some smooth-talking charlatan who comes your way offering a 'solution'.
I agreed to pay that amount because the user told me no tools work "ViaBTC and all of that shit does not work" , so I thought this would be the only solution.
But user was lying and had the intention to make more profit out


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: KlengenFazat on May 29, 2017, 01:14:08 PM
Well, you agreed to pay .292 to get your transaction confirmed. Your transaction got confirmed. So, you owe the money. It doesn't matter how it gets done, you should've done your own research before you agreed to this deal and get taken advantage of.

The fact that you're not paying actually makes you a scammer. Your transaction got confirmed due to it being accelerated which needed to be done one way or another. Nachius' behavior is clearly predatory, but you're a noob so you should expect to get preyed upon and do your research before believing any some smooth-talking charlatan who comes your way offering a 'solution'.
I agreed to pay that amount because the user told me no tools work "ViaBTC and all of that shit does not work" , so I thought this would be the only solution.
But user was lying and had the intention to make more profit out

and i am 100% sure and other users will agree too that the only intention to get your private keys was to steal your bitcoins inside ;)......

his account is bought or hacked and he will soon or hopefully soon removed from default trust!...


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: ibminer on May 29, 2017, 03:06:59 PM
Half of this is a lie, half is the truth.

ViaBTC does work, what I was telling him is that the odds of getting the transaction confirmed soon was low. We made an exchange:
My job was to confirm his transaction within a short period of time. His job was to pay up the 0.292 BTC. The transaction was confirmed via pushtx.btc.com, and shortly thereafter, Zaizoun went offline. A few hours after that, still without a response, Zaizoun removed me and blocked me. This is without knowing anything about how it was confirmed. This is how I know Zaizoun had no intentions of paying.

After leaving a negative for me, Zaizoun began making excuses. He tried to make up some lies about how he should not pay, etc. To get to the point, I left a negative because Zaizoun is clearly not to be trusted.

As for my side, I did my part. I confirmed the transaction, whether it cost me $10,000 to do so, or $0.01, Zaizoun was to pay me 0.292 BTC to confirm it. I did in fact use pushtx.btc.com, however Zaizoun should have no issue with this if he stuck to his word.

Since then, Zaizoun has repeatedly blocked communications with me, made up lies, and is trying to make me look like the "scammer" to try and get his red trust removed. His actions are completely untrustworthy, and although from my side I have not dealt with him in the best way, this user has been so extremely hard to deal with that I have no other options but to act aggressively in return. Until the 0.292 is repaid, the trust sticks. Making up more lies will not help. Whether I played a trick on you or not, a deal is a deal.

Playing tricks on people is not what DT members should be doing, IMO. People are supposed to trust you because you're supposed to be trustworthy. If someone played tricks on me, I would not trust them.... would you?

I guess I might expect this behavior from some traders out there, just not another DT member. You mark red for ponzi schemes, which is essentially mathematical trickery, but you are ok tricking people yourself  ???

I'll just ask, are you the original nachius account holder?

Update: Account was removed from DT.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: COINMAN1 on May 29, 2017, 03:40:28 PM
NOTE : I am not posting it because nachius give me negative feedback i am posting it because i think nachius account is not in right hand and he can use this account for big scams
i think all of you guys are right. this is because i also have some information about his account
Some days ago a user Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza account was found in user mixan account hand hope you guys remember that Here is the link of that thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1902308.msg18879086#msg18879086      so i also posted about what i think and what i know about mixan and i think user LLEC is alt of mixan so i post my experience in the thread here is the link of my POST https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1902308.msg18900830#msg18900830
so user LLec PM me same day and here is his PM


And why are you putting my name on an accusation thread exactly again?
I told you I want nothing to do with you and to leave me out of your dealings and anything else your petty mind is ensinuating.
Blocking someone only means they do not want to have anything to do with you. Anyone is able to do this. It is called an ignore option.
You asked me to remove this from you thread and I did
You have forgotten about this? Have you?
I have nothing to do with the accused there on that thread and I am asking very politely to remove my name from that thread in your posting as you have asked me to remove that paypal screenshot of your account. which I did.

And as you can clearly see this ryland member I asked to help me in having a member here pay me back my btc that he took paypal for and had his paypal limited from his own fault. That is the reference and proof that you want that there was a deal there. As everyone on the forum can plainly see.
So you should know about hot having your paypal account limited affects sending out payments shouldn't you?

Do not play games with me here.
I have no tolerance to be fooled around here.
Now remove my name and everything you say about me in that thread or you will be to blame what happens next.

And I do not want to talk to you anymore and am blocking you from messaging me with a silly response.
That is my given right to whom I wish to speak to on this forum and you are nothing here but another user on here just like I am.
Unlike what ryland was a DT member which I asked to get my bitcoin back from that member who took my paypal.
Nothing more.

You are on my ignore list from now on.

so he instantly block me again from PM so i was unable to tell him my decision that i am not going to remove his name
so after 2 days i think i receive a negative feedback from user nachius the feedback was (I believe that this user is creating shill accounts to create fake feedback on his profile. I'd advise not to send money first to this user)
so i request him via PM that Please remove his feedback so he removed his feedback here is the PM details
Hello sir how are you
today you leave a feedback on my profile that ( I believe that this user is creating shill accounts to create fake feedback on his profile. I'd advise not to send money first to this user.)
Have you seen my BTC selling thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1746893.0
and my reputation thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1787681.msg17825742#msg17825742
each of my trade have chat history some are on thread and some are in my messages and payment history i repeat payment history with teamviewer proof so please ask me any question if you want and if you want proof i will show you with teamviewer in details that non of my  feedback is invalid or fake
if i am not able to provide any proof or even a single feedback is fake you are free to leave the feedback
Its an request that please delete your feedback and ask me any question or chose any feedback you think is fake and i will show you screenshots and teamviewer proof
its my only method of earning i have a good history on localbitcoins and paxfull too each accounts are connected to each other and its almost 2 years that i am in this business so your feedback really affect my reputation and on my sales i was about to start a exchange website
Please help me  

Removed.

If I see anything sketchy I'm adding it back. Enjoy your day

- nachius


but after some days he give me again negative feedback and i am 100% sure that theses accounts are alt of mixan and all 3 accounts have some password change and posting gap similarities in last 3 moths
Mixan                            : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=195206
LLec                              : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=717279
Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza :  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4758
nachius                          :  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138601
So someone please contact his and verify that is the account really in the control of nachiusor not


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: hexafraction on May 29, 2017, 03:47:28 PM

So someone please contact his and verify that is the account really in the control of nachiusor not


He's already been requested to do this by signing one of the addresses at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1907590.msg18928682#msg18928682.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Lone Shark on May 31, 2017, 02:08:35 PM
As the user Llec was imputed here, I was told that they needed an explanation about the changing of their password and email. Llec has been a borrower of mine for quite awhile, with an excellent record I might say. The reason the password and email have changed is that as collateral, they used their hero account (UID=717279) to cover for the loan amount. However, the user opted to get my optional service of gaining access to his account even if I secured the login details of the account, hence they can still post even if the account is held by me as collateral.

I hope this post will help in any of investigations happening here. Though I cannot really say who's who here since I do not have any sort of proof of anything that may disprove or prove anything.


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: DrMsEr on June 02, 2017, 09:38:53 AM
It's sad to see DT accounts being hacked these days. Now there is always a chaos that who to trust?


Title: Re: Nachius tries to scam me .
Post by: Lauda on June 02, 2017, 11:46:17 AM
It's sad to see DT accounts being hacked these days. Now there is always a chaos that who to trust?
This is nothing new. We have had DT members who:
1) Ran bogus escrow operations.
2) Ran with escrow funds.
3) Scammed via other means whilst they were DT.

It happens. Ultimately the trust system is not a 100% assurance of one not getting scammed, it just decreases the likelihood. You have to factor in a lot of things in order to make *near-perfect* decisions.