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Title: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: PeterTheGrape on May 31, 2017, 08:35:44 PM People might remember a news item last year about an underage prostitute who had sex with dozens of police officers in Oakland. The girl was not paid for her encounters with police, instead they gave her secret information about upcoming "prostitution stings" so she would not get caught.
Today her lawyer managed to get the city to pay for the romantic interludes of its officers. Oakland will pay $989,000, of which $973,000 will go to her lawyer, and she will receive $16,000, which works out to $20 per blowjob and $40 per normal sex act. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-oakland-police-sex-scandal-paid-1-million-article-1.3210280 Should she have gotten more? Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: scourgette on May 31, 2017, 08:43:28 PM Oakland will pay $989,000, of which $973,000 will go to her lawyer, and she will receive $16,000, which works out to $20 per blowjob and $40 per normal sex act. I couldn't find that part. Without it the story sounds less like an Aesop Fable and more like a stereotypical Hollywood movie with a happy ending. Good for her I guess. Couldn't find in the article whether these cops were fired, but this million should be paid by them, not the city. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: PeterTheGrape on May 31, 2017, 10:28:14 PM Oakland will pay $989,000, of which $973,000 will go to her lawyer, and she will receive $16,000, which works out to $20 per blowjob and $40 per normal sex act. I couldn't find that part. Without it the story sounds less like an Aesop Fable and more like a stereotypical Hollywood movie with a happy ending. Good for her I guess. Couldn't find in the article whether these cops were fired, but this million should be paid by them, not the city. 1) First rule of police work Cops Do Not Pay for Sex on the Job. 2) A few of the cops were fired, one even self terminated, or did he? This scandal went far and high. No loose ends. http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/08/us/oakland-sex-scandal-officers-fired/ Quote (CNN)Four police officers in Oakland, California, have been fired for involvement in a department-wide sex scandal, Mayor Libby Schaaf said in a press conference Wednesday. An additional seven officers were suspended without pay, and another is receiving counseling... http://sfist.com/2016/07/26/oakland_officers_suicide_and_his_wi.php Quote Officer Brendan O'Brien, who committed suicide in September 2015 at the age of 30, has been cleared in the death of his wife a year earlier, who also committed suicide but whose death was briefly considered suspicious. According to ABC 7, an independent investigation has concluded that sought to confirm O'Brien's death was a suicide, and that his wife's had been as well. The East Bay Express explains more thoroughly that the investigation was done by the Alameda County District Attorney's office, and it concluded that "both deaths were investigated professionally and thoroughly, ultimately reaching the reasonable and appropriate determination to classify each death a suicide." As we learned earlier, O'Brien took his own life claiming that he was being blackmailed by then underage sex worker Celeste Guap, who says she was in some kind of romantic relationship with O'Brien for a number of months. Loose ends, wrapped up. The higher level cops can keep jobs. For now... Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: Okurkabinladin on June 01, 2017, 01:40:11 AM People might remember a news item last year about an underage prostitute who had sex with dozens of police officers in Oakland. The girl was not paid for her encounters with police, instead they gave her secret information about upcoming "prostitution stings" so she would not get caught. Today her lawyer managed to get the city to pay for the romantic interludes of its officers. Oakland will pay $989,000, of which $973,000 will go to her lawyer, and she will receive $16,000, which works out to $20 per blowjob and $40 per normal sex act. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-oakland-police-sex-scandal-paid-1-million-article-1.3210280 Should she have gotten more? I find this interesting for altogether different reason. Corruption is again and again mentioned on this board as a reason why poor countries stay poor. Well, this is happening in United States, but unless you are retarded, you dont consider Americans to be enbloc poor folk. Maybe corruption doesnt matter THAT much in creation of wealth and riches. Unless, you want to tell me, that Westerners became rich, when they did not know what corruption was. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: PeterTheGrape on June 01, 2017, 02:13:39 AM ... Maybe corruption doesnt matter THAT much in creation of wealth and riches. Unless, you want to tell me, that Westerners became rich, when they did not know what corruption was. The difference might be how much detail the public receives. In 3rd world corruption we usually get every last detail, down to the expensive shoes bought by some corrupt person. In the U.S. we get a very partial picture, but most people understand that heavy details are being left out. In this case we know a) The girl was a drug user having sex with dozens of police. It is fairly common for police officers to give drugs to prostitutes, but in this case that possibility was never even investigated. b) There are so many suspicious details in the 'suicide' that sparked the publicity, yet no credible investigation has been done. c) The vast majority of police officers involved, despite having sex with an underaged and vulnerable person, faced no discipline. d) It is almost certain that the scandal was managed to deflect attention away from higher up police officers. The first evidence of this was in the suicide investigation which anybody can research. e) When something like this happens in a 3rd world country there is usually some credible protest. In this case there was a little 'indignation', but honestly nobody wants to take on police corruption and open themselves up to attack from the Justice Department, whose main task is making sure that police corruption stays out of the news and uninvestigated. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: Sithara007 on June 01, 2017, 03:20:28 AM Oakland will pay $989,000, of which $973,000 will go to her lawyer, and she will receive $16,000, which works out to $20 per blowjob and $40 per normal sex act. I couldn't find that part. Without it the story sounds less like an Aesop Fable and more like a stereotypical Hollywood movie with a happy ending. Good for her I guess. Couldn't find in the article whether these cops were fired, but this million should be paid by them, not the city. This is ridiculous. Just 2% to the victim, and 98% for the blood thirsty lawyer? This incident proves that the United States is being run by various cartels, including those from the judiciary, banks, pharma and firearms. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: Okurkabinladin on June 01, 2017, 03:53:17 AM Oakland will pay $989,000, of which $973,000 will go to her lawyer, and she will receive $16,000, which works out to $20 per blowjob and $40 per normal sex act. I couldn't find that part. Without it the story sounds less like an Aesop Fable and more like a stereotypical Hollywood movie with a happy ending. Good for her I guess. Couldn't find in the article whether these cops were fired, but this million should be paid by them, not the city. This is ridiculous. Just 2% to the victim, and 98% for the blood thirsty lawyer? This incident proves that the United States is being run by various cartels, including those from the judiciary, banks, pharma and firearms. Yet its people still have on average one of the highest living standarts on the planet. Tells you alot. I have no idea how to quantify the role of corruption in wealth of country, but there are obviously other factors in play. Youd have to try really hard to justify, that US is rich but corrupt, yet countries such as Nigeria or Uruguay are poor... and also corrupt. People, who misuse public funds and their office are found around the planet. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: PeterTheGrape on June 01, 2017, 04:41:47 AM ... Yet its people still have on average one of the highest living standarts on the planet. Tells you alot. I have no idea how to quantify the role of corruption in wealth of country, but there are obviously other factors in play. Youd have to try really hard to justify, that US is rich but corrupt, yet countries such as Nigeria or Uruguay are poor... and also corrupt. People, who misuse public funds and their office are found around the planet. In consumer societies the primary goal is consumption. To "quantify the role of corruption in wealth of country", maybe important to note that what constitutes wealth is subjective. A person's "belongings" are more "a part of them" amongst consumerists. So where "wealth" is money, people do dirty tricks to get money, and where "wealth" is something else then human ambition manifests differently. Look at all the churches where "virtue" is "wealth". People will go through all kinds of contortions and corruptions to get their wealth. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: Sithara007 on June 01, 2017, 04:58:26 AM Yet its people still have on average one of the highest living standarts on the planet. Tells you alot. I have no idea how to quantify the role of corruption in wealth of country, but there are obviously other factors in play. Youd have to try really hard to justify, that US is rich but corrupt, yet countries such as Nigeria or Uruguay are poor... and also corrupt. People, who misuse public funds and their office are found around the planet. I don't disagree with your views. I am just saying that the entire system is rotten. The victim has been awarded $1 million as compensation, and in the end she is going to get around 2% of that amount. This is just ridiculous and unjust. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: PeterTheGrape on June 01, 2017, 05:21:28 AM ... I don't disagree with your views. I am just saying that the entire system is rotten. The victim has been awarded $1 million as compensation, and in the end she is going to get around 2% of that amount. This is just ridiculous and unjust. She just got out of rehab. I honestly wish good for her, since she had a very rough start in life and got sabotaged and misdirected by a lot of people, but fresh out of rehab with a pocket full of cash... If the city wanted to help her they would have offered her the cash as college tuition, a vertical job in some agency, etc. The money is just so she won't say too much more to the media... Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: Sithara007 on June 01, 2017, 05:42:29 AM ... I don't disagree with your views. I am just saying that the entire system is rotten. The victim has been awarded $1 million as compensation, and in the end she is going to get around 2% of that amount. This is just ridiculous and unjust. She just got out of rehab. I honestly wish good for her, since she had a very rough start in life and got sabotaged and misdirected by a lot of people, but fresh out of rehab with a pocket full of cash... If the city wanted to help her they would have offered her the cash as college tuition, a vertical job in some agency, etc. The money is just so she won't say too much more to the media... $16,000 may last for 6-7 months, given the high rents and other living costs. What she will do after that? Returning to the old profession? OK... leave that. But what about the payment to the lawyer, which was made at the expense of the tax payers? Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: PeterTheGrape on June 01, 2017, 06:35:55 AM ... $16,000 may last for 6-7 months, given the high rents and other living costs. What she will do after that? Returning to the old profession? OK... leave that. But what about the payment to the lawyer, which was made at the expense of the tax payers? You'll have to research those details if they are interesting. All things considered, it's very unlikely she will last much longer. She just got out of rehab and now has enough money for drugs. She is going to be of obvious interest both to journalists who know some pretty wild stories can be bought from her, as well as of interest to any number of police officers who know she is one interview away from destroying their careers. The money wasn't to help her live, it was to help her die. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: Mometaskers on June 01, 2017, 11:24:25 AM This is ridiculous. Their dciks came out of their pants and so it follows that money should come out of their pockets as well. Also, don't anyone find it disturbing what they used to pay her? Sting tips. This is beyond acceptable. This is not just indecent behavior unbecoming of a public servant, it's corruption.
The share of the lawyer was also unbelievably large. Was he a private lawyer? At that price, he might as well have given the cops a blowjob to deserve that money. Oakland will pay $989,000, of which $973,000 will go to her lawyer, and she will receive $16,000, which works out to $20 per blowjob and $40 per normal sex act. I couldn't find that part. Without it the story sounds less like an Aesop Fable and more like a stereotypical Hollywood movie with a happy ending. Good for her I guess. Couldn't find in the article whether these cops were fired, but this million should be paid by them, not the city. This is ridiculous. Just 2% to the victim, and 98% for the blood thirsty lawyer? This incident proves that the United States is being run by various cartels, including those from the judiciary, banks, pharma and firearms. No wonder it was said Hell is overflowing with lawyers, LOL. ;D Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: audaciousbeing on June 01, 2017, 12:40:08 PM People might remember a news item last year about an underage prostitute who had sex with dozens of police officers in Oakland. The girl was not paid for her encounters with police, instead they gave her secret information about upcoming "prostitution stings" so she would not get caught. Today her lawyer managed to get the city to pay for the romantic interludes of its officers. Oakland will pay $989,000, of which $973,000 will go to her lawyer, and she will receive $16,000, which works out to $20 per blowjob and $40 per normal sex act. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-oakland-police-sex-scandal-paid-1-million-article-1.3210280 Should she have gotten more? This is a simple case of the failure of the society and she became a victim of it and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Despite the morality view might want to attach to it as it relates to the eventual payment she got, the fact still remains that the law will take its course as what is the rightful amount she is due for if the police officers had paid for her service? And for the lawyer, I believe the payment is just as a result of the failure of the police force and not really a payment largesse for him. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: Lieldoryn on June 01, 2017, 01:56:14 PM ... I don't disagree with your views. I am just saying that the entire system is rotten. The victim has been awarded $1 million as compensation, and in the end she is going to get around 2% of that amount. This is just ridiculous and unjust. She just got out of rehab. I honestly wish good for her, since she had a very rough start in life and got sabotaged and misdirected by a lot of people, but fresh out of rehab with a pocket full of cash... If the city wanted to help her they would have offered her the cash as college tuition, a vertical job in some agency, etc. The money is just so she won't say too much more to the media... $16,000 may last for 6-7 months, given the high rents and other living costs. What she will do after that? Returning to the old profession? OK... leave that. But what about the payment to the lawyer, which was made at the expense of the tax payers? Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: freedomno1 on June 01, 2017, 04:29:44 PM Well it's good to be a police officer in that city you get to pick the girl up a bit surprising she was the daughter of a police dispatcher, that said I am surprised that the court gave her that for her services, I wonder how they will ever get that money back ha-ha.
Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: PeterTheGrape on June 01, 2017, 04:54:59 PM ... a bit surprising she was the daughter of a police dispatcher... It reminds me of the guy who sent his daughter to work for John F Kennedy. He was sure Kennedy would protect his daughter from the predators of D.C. http://www.businessinsider.com/9-things-jfk-did-with-that-young-intern-that-will-make-you-sick-2012-2?op=1 (http://www.businessinsider.com/9-things-jfk-did-with-that-young-intern-that-will-make-you-sick-2012-2?op=1) Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: chixka000 on June 01, 2017, 04:58:47 PM How awful. Those money for me isn't enough at all for everything that happened to her. Tho as you have mentioned yes it is still not enough because being a prostitute under 18 is probably horriific experience of a girl
Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: Sithara007 on June 02, 2017, 04:35:29 AM How awful. Those money for me isn't enough at all for everything that happened to her. Tho as you have mentioned yes it is still not enough because being a prostitute under 18 is probably horriific experience of a girl I just hope that she will use that money to earn herself some educational or technical degree/certification. But the fact is that most of the teenage girls who are forced in to prostitution never manages to lead a normal life after their rescue. The traffickers usually make them addicted to drugs and alcohol, which ruins their life forever. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: PeterTheGrape on June 02, 2017, 04:54:04 AM When she was young she had "potential", the possibility or probability of a fair life. She got misdirected enough that now it is unlikely she will live much longer, she is a recovering addict who just got a windfall, and if she does make it to 21 her life is not likely to be much more than some version of a tragedy. Worse for the general public, there was only a token effort to hold those responsible to accountability, since they are police officers, and most of the people involved will remain anonymous and proceed with more caution. Interesting in today's news there was another "police suicide" that was strangely improperly investigated but sorted itself out on its own http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-police-department-couples-mysterious-deaths-under-investigation-the-watchdogs/
Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: Idrisu on June 02, 2017, 07:14:17 AM When she was young she had "potential", the possibility or probability of a fair life. She got misdirected enough that now it is unlikely she will live much longer, she is a recovering addict who just got a windfall, and if she does make it to 21 her life is not likely to be much more than some version of a tragedy. Worse for the general public, there was only a token effort to hold those responsible to accountability, since they are police officers, and most of the people involved will remain anonymous and proceed with more caution. Interesting in today's news there was another "police suicide" that was strangely improperly investigated but sorted itself out on its own http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-police-department-couples-mysterious-deaths-under-investigation-the-watchdogs/ The girl may not understand the implications of her actions, though I blame her parent or guardian for not instill the fear of God in her before this time which lead her to choose this part of hopeless life. I still pray God help deliver her and all the pendophine children.Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: joebrook on June 02, 2017, 02:01:28 PM People might remember a news item last year about an underage prostitute who had sex with dozens of police officers in Oakland. The girl was not paid for her encounters with police, instead they gave her secret information about upcoming "prostitution stings" so she would not get caught. Today her lawyer managed to get the city to pay for the romantic interludes of its officers. Oakland will pay $989,000, of which $973,000 will go to her lawyer, and she will receive $16,000, which works out to $20 per blowjob and $40 per normal sex act. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-oakland-police-sex-scandal-paid-1-million-article-1.3210280 Should she have gotten more? I read the article and there was no mention of her receiving such amount, and there was no way she would have agreed to such an amount whiles the lawyer got all of it. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: PeterTheGrape on June 02, 2017, 02:36:58 PM People might remember a news item last year about an underage prostitute who had sex with dozens of police officers in Oakland. The girl was not paid for her encounters with police, instead they gave her secret information about upcoming "prostitution stings" so she would not get caught. Today her lawyer managed to get the city to pay for the romantic interludes of its officers. Oakland will pay $989,000, of which $973,000 will go to her lawyer, and she will receive $16,000, which works out to $20 per blowjob and $40 per normal sex act. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-oakland-police-sex-scandal-paid-1-million-article-1.3210280 Should she have gotten more? I read the article and there was no mention of her receiving such amount, and there was no way she would have agreed to such an amount whiles the lawyer got all of it. You may be right. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: Xester on June 02, 2017, 04:22:40 PM It is hard to imagine that a prostitute would be outwitted with the police considering that she have that job because of easy money. And it would seems so unfair that the lawyer would get more money than her. Aside from the Oakland city paying her what should be done to yhe police officers? Should they be sanction accordingly?
Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: PeterTheGrape on June 02, 2017, 04:55:01 PM It is hard to imagine that a prostitute would be outwitted with the police considering that she have that job because of easy money. And it would seems so unfair that the lawyer would get more money than her. Aside from the Oakland city paying her what should be done to yhe police officers? Should they be sanction accordingly? If any other occupation group were involved there would have been full accountability. Imagine the headline Dozens of Walmart Employees Pass Around Underage Girl for Sex like a Bag of Doritos. Investigators Decide to Let Most of them Remain Anonymous and Keep their Jobs Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: 2econd on June 09, 2017, 08:56:15 AM Is this for real?!
Fire those police officers, give the 16000 to the lawyer and give the rest of the money to the girl. Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: mariahh on July 05, 2017, 01:51:31 PM Well I suppose every guy would do the same thing if he could.I know police officers should protect us and not exercise authority against the people.Besides that sex is not estimated and this is kind of illegal.At least we should be cared for other issues...
Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: mariahh on July 05, 2017, 01:54:01 PM Well I suppose every guy would do the same thing if he could.I know police officers should protect us and not exercise authority against the people.Besides that sex is not estimated and this is kind of illegal.At least we should be cared for other issues...
Title: Re: Dozens of police failed to pay prostitute for sex. City will pick up tab. Post by: Lieldoryn on July 05, 2017, 02:16:01 PM In every country there are public lawyers. Why this prostitute is not addressed to them? Probably she was not at all likely to get the money if not for the help of an expensive lawyer. It's better than not getting anything.
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