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well as much as i do not like ETH and their DEV team  and the whole DAO, White hat black hat bullshit i need to tell you to read up. did you miss the whole fork ? ETC happened when fork was done and polo decided to list it as ETC

LOL Read the history first

now i find out. why wasn't i told before? man, you guys have been keeping this secret for too long.

Is not a joke! I'm serious! The history of Ethereum it's a fake. The "Dual Scam System" is the real project. Search on the darknet…

Do you consider the darknet as a reliable source for your story, dude? Did you read the latest news of ethereum? SEC determined ethereum is different with bitcoin. What the hell about dual scam system?
I don't believe your source. Looks so pathetic for me.

If that's a scam and why the chines try to invest on the ethereum.

Or you just try to make FUD regarding your account.  ::)

So you mean to tell us that all the hard cash we've made through ETH will simply disappear? Maybe if I look at the bills closely they will actually prove to be clownmoney.

Actually it doesn't matter no matter technical analysis applied just to explain that it's a scam. Let's say we will disregard all the facts about ETH and ETC.

People trading and hodling ETH are for profit purposes and not to used it by means of the same way the bitcoin is being used. As long as it have decent value, then no way a FUD can break it. Crypto traders gets profit from hype coin no matter what it is. That's the reality of trading.

Actually "Dual Scam System" want you trade your bitcoin into ETH or ETC, after this point start a fake project for a new decentralized bank…Evolution of OneCoin! Many scammers assets work for this ecosystem! The contract creation is an illusion for investors.

Scamception. ICO scams within a scam within a scam within an ICO scam.

Very very complicated scam...This is the future of cryptoscam. Do you want buy this vampire coin?

Don't want the stupid ecosystem with central scam group. Exchange all ETH and ETC with other coins. Warning: Do not buy new assets or sci-fi ico…

Somebody has a short position which is about to get margin called ;)

The bitcoin spirit is the pure job of community. Ethereum is the "Scientology" alternative for IOT. The first washing your brain, the second whashing your bitcoins. Scam alert is a real question. Stop this mega ponzi system. Stop now!  >:(

i agree with this. that's pretty funny. the rest, um, no.

I just launched a contact written in c that can't be shut down or hacked and is running on a p2p network that the world has never seen the likes of before.  Sounds like a big scam to me.  ... NOT

Are you someone want to buy ETH or ETC on the dip?

OMG, whats this? Newbie troll accounts are posting FUD and doing monologue each other. Post it using your main Bitcointalk accounts. Stop posting like this. ETH and ETC are good coins.

lol, it seems like someone missed the chance to buy when it was low and wants to cause a dip to buy and make profit. :D
don't worry my friend, I know you know you are lying, but know this: you are not lying! ethereum is shitcoin that is only worth a lot because of its pump. a massive scale operation that you can't yet imagine. with a lot of shady things going on in the background.

and besides who cares, it is giving me a lot of profit when it is getting pumped and I buy low and sell before the dump each time. so more money in my pocket and one more pumpcoin on top of other thousand pumpcoin doesn't really make any difference really.

Wait, is this whole thread supposed to be a complete joke?

Ethernum may have not been handled cleanly or the way other people can say it should have, but the fact remains: there's a reason so many miners couldn't drive the price down if they try (as most do) .The IDEA is solid, its just needs MUCH ironing out. The use cases for ETH are undeniable, there's a reason if you goto conventions people talk 1/2 only of ETH projects just like there's a reason the market holds it to be worth 0.1BTC per coin. Smart money knows where to make more money

I don't think so,all the Altcoin is a financal experimental goods
you maybe loss some money on the ETH or ETC,but existence is turth

So you want us to sell so you can buy it  :P if you do have the inside story why not complete it here instead of shouting both are scam.all you have are theory,you need to back it up ethereum is number two it will not pull down ..

If ethereum is a scam why it is considered the 2nd cryptocurrency aside bitcoin don't trust darknet it is not a reliable source if you will say it's a scam then go show us some proof. that's all we need because to see is to believe.

You should read the story between the ETH and ETC, dao, hard fork...

Brother of Bitcoin? It's a fake ecosystem dev by many scammers in the world. This dual scam system want your bitcoins and create for people myriad contracts for expand the business.

 ;D hahaha, nice monologue man, nice monologue. Did you miss to buy ETH when the price was low?  :-\
I knew I was making mistake not reading the morning news from dark web, thanks for enlightening us.

It's a funny? Wait the destroy time of this scam… 😆

Are you ok ?? As long they have supply and demand, they will survive on real market. If you say " don't buy " that's right because this moment eth and etc have higher price than before, like or not buy in this area is bad decision. Think again if the price always up it will make market confused where the place to buy again? you should know about this. I believe you already do something not right with your method, maybe you have loss. Just relax and see the price chart tomorrow and good luck.

Sure man, sell me your Ether cheap, I'm buying all of it

It's time of selling yours ETH or ETC...This scam project is a group of Blue Whale…😱 Don't buy this scam crime!!!

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How many people have a single brain? It's not a job or a game! It's an help for million of investors…

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>:( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-seaman/ethereum-classic-another_b_11173314.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-seaman/ethereum-classic-another_b_11173314.html)

:o https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereumfraud/comments/6bgvqv/faq_what_exactly_is_the_fraud_in_ethereum/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereumfraud/comments/6bgvqv/faq_what_exactly_is_the_fraud_in_ethereum/)

Lol I think it's safe to short this. It's never going to go up past 0.1btc. Make some money and short this shit.

can you post some tor links for us to read?

Tempted:  https://ponzico.win/

Whitepaper: https://ponzico.win/ponzico.pdf

https://i.imgur.com/a9klS3z.png

I did not know that POLO came up with the name,either way it is a cool name and it stuck with it and the rest of the community followed.
@OP if you are calling out something make sure that you have some valid proof that can match your words,if not do not bother to do so,looks like you got the revelation all of a sudden after a long coma. :P

A simple google search about it will take me to this thread ,your revelation was good,lets have some proof what you are talking about,do not provide links that you created recently ,i want authenticated source or some valid proof rather than running your mouth. Hope you are telling that both the coins were planned well before the creation of ETH and they forced the fork and so on so that we have more coins and more investment. ;D
@OP close this thread as you cannot prove anything.

Watch in your "onion sites" who is "Dual Scam System". Or you are the victim of this nerd fake system? 👽

Better to provide all legit evidence that you've got in Darknet, as not so many people in the forum ever or care to access this kind of information. Because people just think ethereum is a good coin which many people making profits there, from nothing to $222 right now, many projects use ethereum as medium of exchange as well.

Yours "Sun Contract" are proof of this ponzi nerd system. "Sea Contract" for fishing? "Enercoin" for decentralized energy system? This are the fake projects for nerd want spend bitcoins! Did you understand?

you dont say!!! give me some time to cash out before announcing to public pls...

Probably all because the "Dual Scam System" is born for get all bitcoins. NEM and Ripple are other scams but don't know this projects. At now…

scam= a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation

why etc/eth are a scams? hard fork???

lol. Make a new thread again saying that bitcoin is a scam coin.

AntiScam project is perfect for block this scam tokens. It's an democratic idea for this forum...

I assumed so already from OP's post, unless of course he has been hibernating for a long time.

I do not think I can trust the nonsense he says, because he does not give proof of what he said is true, I'm sure he just wants to panic those who have Altcoin Eth and Etc so they can get rid of it cheaply.

This thread is literally skyrocketing to my top 3 ridiculous threads on bitcointalk.

It's an alarm for not investing in ETH and ETC. Not writing stupid topics. 😒

It is crystal clear that the main intention of the user that created this thread is to dump the price of ETH/ETC amd grab some cheap of it.

Hey you are a "Dual Scam System" fan? Or an inexpert investor? Good luck! 👏

Or he opened a short position after the top was reached few days ago and it was already going down. But Brutalent is going to lose some money here because the bottom has been reached already and it's slowly rising now. His margin call is going to fuel the pump up, so thank you Brutalent for the money you're going to give me in the near future! I'll spend it wisely (= put it into bullmarkets instead of having the megalomanical ego thinking I can make the price sink of a huge volume coin by creating threads without content on this forum).

Another scammer… Waiting guys! 😱

Giving opinions like this at the time ETH is achieving its potential is just a call of someone disgruntled who could buy or never believe that the mark attained today can ever be attained and as a result cannot afford it thereby looking for way to spread the panick then people will be force to sell then he can buy because that what will happen when you give a position without backing it with facts.

Give us the .onion link to source

Probably this method has been applied to BTC million times as well :) Well, I'd be happy if price drops temp period for 13 USD again to buy more of it.

I'm not agree with you. Do you have any proof regarding your opinion plz share the link. how do you say ethereum is scam....?

Hmm, I think this is not a proper thought. How can the Ethereum and Ethereum Classic experiencing a scam..?? . It is not possible, the most important things you have to see. How can they'll do when it's a scam, some considerable time they provide advantages for most investors and traders ..? . So, better focus will be to get a lot of funds rather than have struggled finding a weakness it is profitable
 

Hey come on now.  He might be a bitcoin maximalist who believes in the "immutability of the blockchain" and took offense at the DAO rollback/fork. Nevermind bitcoin's own rollback/fork *cough* *block #74638*.

YES ETC BORN FROM ETHEREUM PROJECT. BUT ITS NOT A MEAN TEHEREUM ARE GOING TO SCAM. IF YOU HAVE PROOF THEN SHOW US.

So sad  :'( Thanks for reporting... I must change my ETH Balance to the other services to get more security :D The rate of ETH is increasing ^_^ I hope It can be defeat BTC kkkkk.... Just hope for fun :P

I did not find any valid details in onion sites either,if you have any valid link you can send me which correlates ethereum and the dual scam system you are mentioning.It is not the matter of me being a victim but you started a topic which has no validity,hope you have read their white paper detailing what their system is all about and i do not find much difference in the working of the system apart from the fork they had.

Thanks for FUDing OP, Ethereum project has scammed no one, it is just a seperate chain.
No one has lost their money because of the fork, and i have not seen a single piece of proof of a scam.

These aren't scams. They are smart contract platforms that don't scale. You're not going to loose money because it's a scam. No, you'll loose money if Vitalik doesn't upgrade Eth to support all of the incoming transactions from these platforms being built upon it. With the current system, Eth will be at capacity when we reach 1.3 million transactions/day. That number can come quick with etheroll alone. Not to mention all of the other projects that will have eth blockchain transactions.

you mean a projects or coins that have over $14b markets capitalization fake? I don't think so and even if it is a scammed people believe in it and that makes it real. Please note that many investors are view this thread including me, it will be good if you will post something positive!

It's a complicated system for scammers... Don't get it! Eat your money!

Japan accept official bitcoin payment. The Bitcoin is the first and only democratic project!!! 🍣🌞

I read some thread bully eth. What's going on? in fact eth price increase. Do they give negative stigma to eth want to earn from the fall of eth. After got negative stigma then the price down and they buy a lot of eth and make huge profit with the rise again? The users of eth are large enough to get negative stigma. Many tokens are succesfull with eth blockchain. They are parts of eth community who support etherium.

The Federal Reserve is a giant scam too then, But thats a another discussion all in itself

Agree mate!  ;D

they are same as ripple and stellar lumens.

ethereum is one of popular coin and i had no heard have any issue about this...many people use this coin and if have an issue  about this im sure its gonna go viral on this furom..

I'm worried about the post above, maybe he's tired and lost his money on this coin.
I agree eth may not be a scam.  :D

Maybe this is an answer that can help related eth.
Https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945532.0

Here's a gold medal for OP. Bullshit to the maximum.

Then you missed page 1 on my ETH scam topic i made here in 2014.

 [ETH] Ethereum = Scam
July 23, 2014, 07:24:48 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707237.0

Well, ETH and XRP are not true cryptocurrencies

Right, Let me get this straight, OP come out of nowhere, with a brand new account and post negative things about a coin that has been around for some time, had a decent history with a few things here and there and expect people to dump based on your claims.

I do not even want to take the time to click a link or Google the current ETH news to answer back to your claims.  If there is an issue, I am sure that it will be dealt with.  There is no way that more than a handful of people will be affected by your thread and if your intention is to damage the coins, then this is not going to get you anywhere.  

Right. Proved eth still exist.

There is a big difference between a project not being trusted by the community and being a scam, there are many on the forum that do not like ETH at all for several reasons, and we must respect their opinions but to say those projects are scams is going too far unless you have proof of it.

i wouldn't go as far as calling it a scam. ethereum is just a pretty terrible platform. and it is bad because it was created as a centralized altcoin which a big ICO and its main purpose is to make Vitalik and his investors rich out of nothing.
and it is over-hyped because of smart contracts which it handles pretty badly too. there are lots of bugs and exploits which happen every now and then and users and services using these lose a lot of money because of it.
for example a couple of days ago a Canadian exchange lost 14 million dollars because of it!

Pobably this scam system work with scam groups: http://www.coindesk.com/scam-free-gambling-ethereum-regulators-might-not-ready/ (http://www.coindesk.com/scam-free-gambling-ethereum-regulators-might-not-ready/)

If it were a scam the Chinese Central Bank and Chinese Government would have kicked out ETHEREUM and ETC by now for sure. Now in China ETHEREUM is big news and the whole of South Korea is invested in ETC. Wouldn't you think these big entities would have checked out if ETH AND ETC were scams? Come on, enough with the jokes and trollathon.  ;D ;D

Yes eth and eth classic are scams along with coins like dash and monero. BTC, LTC, PPC and doge are the only coins with long term hope.

Everyone is entitled to thir opinion
Yrou could have present your scam reason with fact

The news is stupid. But how did the market react? Do not write this if you do not have information

Monero and Dash are evolution of bitcoin. ETH, ETC, Ripple and NEM are scam networks look like Counterparty, Omni Layer, Nxt and others. Burst is a power safe coin.

Lol.
You should do some research before putting any comments about Etheruem.If any coin can beat BTC that will be only ETH.People are going crazy for it.

you will need to provide the proof of why you think ETH and ETC are scam,I disagree with you,it is good to remain silent if you don't want to invest on a particular coin than calling it a scam to discourage those who want to invest on it ,everyone is entitle to his or her own opinion but providing the proof would 've make others to respect your own opinion

I have to words for you: retard, ignorant
They are your personality and I believe that you do not have any knowledge in the cryptocurrency field and you are trying to get more attention from people. Bitcoin will soon be replaced by other cryptos. Trust me lol and ethereum has the biggest chance to replace it

How did you arrive at this conclusion?

BTC, LTC and doge are very tech-sensible. One break-thru and the chains are crippled at best.
We don't know anything about the tech we will have in 10 years, but PoW coins will be the ones to pop.

Proof of work..  its the most short-term solution imaginable.

100% right here.

thus u have GOOD project and devs (non ICO) like wbb (DLS)

Today all people create or invest into new cryptocoins…But really the money have two fathers: Hackers and Banks!

Lol, no they aren't.

Sit back and relax. Always there is a scam today which looks more like a scam than a scam from yesterday.
Try to read the news.

I do not know if ETH is really a scam.
But ETH is the most manipulated coin in history, I do not like it.
That's it.

 :o so serious :( Thanks for your infomation I'll tell to my friends stop using their service, and change to another services to protect our ETH Coins!! Feeling unhappy!!  >:(

It's a terrible system based on fake contracts creation for manipulate investors.

Both are good coins with great future ahead..

I dont know why OP claiming them as a scam

The same reason why Donald Trump thinks he's a great president: ill-informed background combined with megalomania.

I think op say this scam because OP didn't have ETH or ETC . or OP have bad dreams with ethereum  ::)

I was reading the entire thread and a bunch of newbie accounts commenting about Ethereum and Ethereum classic and calling it a scam,i am not able to change any views,if you think so,no one is forcing you to invest in it or use it,just move on with your life,just simple as that,but if you have something which can be proved then i would like to see some thoughtful input.

Maybe the OP is trying to promote panic selling like they do to Bitcoin every now and then. How can you state they are pure scams without any tangible reasons or evidence.

Right, i was a bit nervou since I just downloaded Ethereum app , so definitely i will look for other.

Well ETC is being very heavily sold on Bitfinex in the last 24 hours - https://www.bitfinex.com/trading/ETCBTC

Ethereum is very successful and likely to change the crypto history. Stop fudding, nuts.

If it is real then better to sell the currently holding ethereum i am not even dare to touch ethereum classic any how i will try to exchange ether to bitcoin i think its the safest investment for future

I think another reason is that some people invest money and then when they lose money on it, or make a bad prediction and sell to soon, they become bitter against the coin despite the fact it was their own actions that caused them to lose money on the first place.

I'm guessing those calling them scams are people who sold when the price were low or banging their heads for never buying. I have never seen a good argument for why bitcoin should fundamentally be better than Ethereum.

I don't here any one on here telling us. I just know about ETC Coming form ETH.

I'm buying ethereum classic but actually I don't like it ethereum classic is lie. Ethereum is the real progress.

Well, why do you buy ethereum classic if you think that etc is not genuine? Is only reason to make money from etc in exchanges?  ???

Ethereum and ethereum classic is both good coins. So I suggest buy this coin dont sell it. Just hold and keep it for sure you will earn a lot of profit after few months. Dont say this two coin are scam coin. Do you think millions of people buy scam coin and do you think millions of people trust in this coin if this coin is scam? No. Because ethereum coin and etc is not a scam. If you have both this coin for sure you will earn a lot of money in the future.

I don't know if they are scam coin but your logic is awful bro...
what does it means by all people buy those coin so they cannot be scam coin lol

why don't you use your real account and post this, read and know the history first before posting like this you are destroying the name of ethereum as you can see many market accepted this coin and also they have their own markets also. ethereum markets, and now you are saying that ethereum is scam.

You need to think before pose a problem completely skewed. ETH is one altcoin will make history in the future and existing technology projects of ETH be trusted to use their technology development

You need to think before pose a problem completely skewed. ETH is one altcoin will make history in the future and existing technology projects of ETH be trusted to use their technology development

Lol I think this man is kidding.
How can he say Eth and etc is scam.
Everyone is saying Eth and Etc will change the Cryptocurrency world.

Do read links in my SIGNATURE

are you serrious ? | What is the basis of your thinking says that ETC is a scams.

They are not scams.

But Ethereum faces the risk of being hit by regulators for being a security.

They also face the risk of manipulating a security when they hard forked because of DAO.

Ethereum creates new constructive abilities. It complements reality with new ways. It makes future more interesting then past.

Thank you for letting awareness of this took shape in verbal expression.

I just bought more ETH and ETC to rub it on.  ;D ;D ;D you mad bruh??? ;D

Ethereum lose your money for his Dual Scam System project. Don't buy don't sell  ;D

What do you think: crypto-currencies will lead to a redistribution of wealth on the our planet? Or not?

Some people think all coins are a scam. There are still people saying bitcoin is a scam.  And the earth is flat and we never landed on the moon.

Well I don't think it is a scam but the fork ETH/ETC makes it very shady. Lots of people lost confidence.

Probably your profile looks more like scam than the market cap of ETH/ETC

Ammmm, you never landed on the moon mate.

some of the best advice evar, get the fuck out while you can  :D

Ethereum go to zero value: Wait nerd guys…Wait!  ;D