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Is there anyway to be sure that these are indeed loaded? I don't see any firstbits on the coin itself nor a list of sales in the OP of the original sales thread. I'm not saying that you are trying to cheat someone, but who knows, maybe they never got loaded in the first place?

The address is engraved on the face of the coin, but in the pic above it is scratched out. (To avoid dusting I guess)

Thanks a lot! I still don't know how to do that  ;D


I don't know how you can make sure they are loaded without scratching the hologram. I will reveal the public key, which shows that the coin was indeed loaded back in 2014, but I understand it's no proof per say. I don't think the seller used firstbits. If you have any suggestions as to how I can prove the coin is funded I'm all ears!

The creator sold buyer-funded coins later on, but those were etched as "buyer-funded" on the front of the coin. There's no reason to think these aren't funded, especially if the seller is willing to share the addresses (maybe upon request, via PM?).

Yes, as mentioned in OP I will gladly share an uncesored picture with the public key to the winner of the auction. The coins are seller-funded.

Unit A (0.5 BTC): 0.65 BTC
Unit B (1.0 BTC): 1.15 BTC

Oh my, do I want these babies.. But I will stay out of the way on this one :D

Good luck, GP ;)

Unit B (1.0 BTC): 1.16 BTC

Please send pictures with address on the 1.0 BTC coin

Thanks
Edi

I've just received a few peeled Nolacoins and they are beautiful coins.  To laser engrave the public address on the front and for the public QR address to be also laser engraved is a work of art.  I'm so tempted....

Unit A - 0.66 BTC

I'm surprised the bidding isn't more competitive on these. These are great coins. Unlike some, they're not just Casascius clones -- arashd came up with refreshing new designs, in a new size, with truly excellent production values. That's saying something, in a niche market where sometimes "limited edition" basically underscores how home-made a thing is. Plus, laser engraved public & private keys, with matching QR codes! Even the protective stickers followed a different model -- not the regular holograms, but more of a multi-layer, scratch-off kind of thing.

So I guess what I'm wondering is why Casascius coins seem, so far, to command more interest, when those are so much more common. These are much rarer, and should command a premium. And they deserve it.

I am *guessing* that it has something to do with trust -- because these are less well known, people are slower to bite? Well, for what it's worth, as someone with the dubious distinction of having opened a few Nolacoins in the past, I had no issue whatsoever redeeming them -- and that is NOT always the case. I won't name names, but sometimes... stuff. With Nolacoin, keys were correct, the QR codes worked, and arashd earned my trust.

I'm not plugging my blog, but for what it's worth, I wrote about Nolacoin a few years back in more detail, and I think what I wrote is still relevant: http://object2212.com/?p=55 (http://object2212.com/?p=55)

Unit A - 0.67BTC

As stated earlier, I will send uncensored pictures to the winner of the auction. In the meantime, I've sent these pictures to minerjones who has confirmed that the coins pictured indeed are loaded with 0.5 and 1.0 BTC respectively.



Thank you for the write up! They are indeed very beautiful coins, and I honestly expected them to go for a far higher premium (after receiving several inbox bids higher than the public bids in this auction thread). But I will of course honor this auction no matter the ending price :) There is however some hours left, so hopefully the bidding will pick up!

Can you please send a picture of your coin in pm ?

The auction is now over.

The winners are:

Unit A: Lutpin at 0.67 BTC
Unit B: ediston at 1.16 BTC

Congratulations to the winners! Even though I'm not particularily familiar with these markets, I believed these coins would go for at least a 50% premium of the face value, so I honestly believe the winners did a good deal on this one ;)

I'm pretty sure most collectors aren't very familiar with the market for these specific coins either.
While we see sales for Cas/Lealana/BTCC coins daily, those here only come up on the market every now and then.
They're hard to price if you don't keep up with everything all the time.
That being said, I gotta agree, those were a good deal at going rates.

i think u just ended the acution at a bad time and didnt bump this thread enough i hardly seen it on the first page

This ends tomorrow I thought. I've been waiting to bid.

Oh shit, yes, you are right. I ended this one day to early. How is it best to go ahead? Will it be unheard of if i revoke the winners i announced earlier, and continue the auction one more day as per the OP?

People often mix up their end dates. The winners should have said something wondering why it was ended a day early and confirmed with you. There should be no problem running this until the specified end date

Okey, that's good to hear. Do you think it is reasonable to extend the end time of the auction the same amount of hours the auction has been "closed" by a mistake?

I don't think it is needed. If anything you'll have a snipin war with people that were waiting to bid anyway

I just want to make sure this is okey for the current winners and/or within the usual practice on this forum. So I will postpone the auction for up to 24 hours, and then open an 24 hour auction.

Hi

I am 'real' ediston. My other account is hacked. Anyways. I am ready to go with the rules.

Best regards,
Edi

I'm a little confused, is the auction currently closed to bids until tomorrow when it will be re-opened?

Hello ediston! Good to know. I will be opening the auction again once the other winner confirms he is okay with this.

Yes, I feel it's fair to give current winners upto 24 hours notice until i reopen the auction for another 24 hours. I will open it once both users has confirmed they are okey with this. I don't know what's the standard procedure in these cases, please tell!, but feel like this would be the most fair way of doing it, so they can still participate if they want to.

Understood, I was going off the original end time but I do see you had a mishap with incorrectly calling the auction end time.

There really is no standard procedure for these errors but I'd think in this case you're going about it right by notifying & giving all parties a fair chance.  :)

Only the auction wasn't closed, you had ended it (in error, indeed).

I got the feeling no matter what happens, someone is going to be upset. There doesn't seem to be any version to fix this error that is fair to everyone.
If the OP stands to his mistake and honors the (arguably wrongly) announced auction wins, teeGUMES might be upset about not getting the chance to bid on these.
If the auction is opened again, we might see a bidding war and the original winners (yes, that does include me) are out of a good deal that was already finalized in most parts.

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Now you're very new on this forum and your actions will decide how people perceive you and interact with you, OP.

Yes, this is absolutely what I meant. I apologize if anyone was confused by my wrong use of terminology.


Good deal sent in PM. I’m indeed a new seller, and will go a long way to earn your trust!

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The auction will shortly be opened again, running for 24 additional hours in this thread. Start and end time will be announced in a couple of hours.
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The auction is now opened for bids for another 24 hours.
The new end time is 13:00 EDT, Tuesday 20 of June 2017
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/new-york

The same conditions as original posted still applies. I’m sorry for the inconveniences the closing and reopening of this auction might have caused potential bidders. Best of luck!

The current high bids are the bids of the previously, erroneously announced winners standing at:
Unit A: 0.67 BTC – lutpin
Unit B: 1.16 BTC – ediston

Unit A: 0.7BTC
Unit B: 1.2BTC

Current high bid! Auction closing in about 7.5 hours.

Unit A - 0.71
Unit B - 1.21

Current highest bid! Auction ends in right above 3 hours.

Unit A - 0.75BTC
Unit B - 1.25BTC

you must really like this coin. bumped from 1.21 to 1.25  ;D

Unit A - 0.8BTC
Unit B - 1.3BTC

This is the currently highest bid. From when does sniping rules usually apply? This offer was made 25 minutes before end time.

Unit A - 0.9BTC
Unit B - 1.4BTC

This is the current highest offer. The auction vil be sniped for another 45 minutes.

Unit A - 0.91BTC
Unit B - 1.41BTC

Unit A - 0.95BTC
Unit B - 1.45BTC

Unit A - 1BTC
Unit B - 1.5BTC

Unit A - 1.1BTC
Unit B - 1.6BTC

This is the current highest bid. The auction will close in 30 minutes, unless other bids are made.

Unit A - 1.2BTC
Unit B - 1.7BTC

Unit A - 1.3BTC
Unit B - 1.8BTC

Unit A - 1.4BTC
Unit B - 1.9BTC

Unit A - 1.42BTC
Unit B - 1.92BTC

Unit A - 1.45BTC
Unit B - 1.95BTC

Unit A - 1.5BTC
Unit B - 2BTC

This is the current highest offer. We are far unto overtime, and I now realized I should have put a lower sniping period  ;D The more you know!

The auction will end in 30 minutes if no other bids are made.

And congratulations to the winner of both coins, greenplastic!

Thanks!

(where did the day go?!)  Ha!  :D

Haha, I'm wondering as well! I will need a small walk outside to clear my head before we discuss all the details  :P

Now THAT was an auction! Congratulations, very cool coins.

Indeed! Thanks again for your write up and blog post about the coins: http://object2212.com/?p=55

I can't access my earlier account "Godwine" and believe I've been hacked somehow. I can see the user is logged in right now, but this is NOT the real Godwine, please be careful.

If the user "Godwine" has sent you any meesages in the last couple of hours this is NOT me.

I can prove I'm the real owner of the earlier listed NOLAcoins if anyone wants proof in the form of fresh pictures.

Is there any way to get ones account back? Would appreciate any help.

We got a REAL problem on our hands, then.

I already made payment. WTF  ???

To who? I assume you used an escrow?

Glad I bowed out of this one. Hope it turns out for you greenplastic.

You newbie members are making it real hard for buyers to even want to deal with you.

You started this post as "Godwine".

Who is "realGodwine"?

I've already paid...

 

Wow, this looks bad.

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Not to an escrow, I assume?

PM me with the content of our discussion, if you want to prove it.

Update: PM received. It seems realGodwine is the original author of this thread/auction.

I'm really worrie here. I think I just got hacked. At least someone else is 'online' on my account  :-\ Can you please post the btc address and tell me who you used as escrow so he can confirm this? Did you use minerjones as I first suggested? The real me never gave away a btc-address, and like I said, I can post pictures to prove I'm the original owner of the "Godwine" account.

Thank you Lutpin. I am indeed. Took some more pictures now as additional proof as well:

http://imgur.com/a/kyPX8

Since greenplastic doesn't answer my PM's I will post the last private message I sent him in pm from when I had access to my 'Godwine' account (this is the only message I think I still got, as it's still saved in my word editor, but some other trusted users on this forum will probably recognize the particular price of 4.5 BTC for the 3 BTC and/or the links included in this message), as additional proof:

Please give an answer greenplastic. Who did you pay to and to what btc address? And which escrow did you use? You are online and dont seem to care about the payment (several bitcoins!) you supposedly just sent to a scammer.

Same thing happened with me. You can see when I actually did the bid it was 'ediston'

They are phishing .. basically you get a message in the email. but the email points to another site with the login page duplidated.
You login to the page but it is a page of wrong site and you just gave them your username/password.

this is very very dangerous..

Admins have not responded to my query yet.

BE CAREFUL GUYS!!!

No, I'm really certain the password has been changed. I even wrote it down, and someone other than me was online at some point earlier today. I now think the password on this account has been changed as well, since I apperently dont have the right password when trying to change my account mail  :-\
I have that last copy of correspondence because it was a long message and I wrote it first in Word. I still have the window open in my computer including greenplastic's original message to me.

Can some of the mods please chime in on this? You can freely share all private messages between me (on the original Godwin account) and other members if needed, to prove the correctness of my message.

Hello everyone! PLEASE READ THIS
(And correct me if I'm wrong)

I'm posting this publicly, so other trusted members can chime in here for the sake of transparancy.

Silence is a very strange way of doing buisness, greenplastic. Can't you publilcly prove it, if you payed for the coins through some escrow? At least there should be a btc address? Can you please post it in the forum thread for the sake of transparancy. Please answer my PM's, as I can see you have been online multiple times. Why aren't you communicating privately or publicly if you supposedly have just been scammed for thousands of dollars?

Can you please share the messages sent from my old account (Godwin) after the last real message from me, which I posted above? (If these actually exists). These messages would be the scammer, and it should be posted publicly!

The silence here is really making me prone to conspiracy: I'm starting to suspect I've been the victim of an attempted scam, which was abandoned once I wanted proper reshipping terms through minerjones. I also suspect greenplastic was bidding against a friend/sockpuppet in teeGUMES to artifically drive the price up, making me more suspectible to a fast deal without proper safeguards.

This is a warning to the other members: You should be extremely careful trading with greenplastic until he has posted the requested information publicly, and answered these allegations. I dont think they neccesarilly all are true, but again, the lack of response is making me nervous either me or greenplastic has been the victim of a scam attempt.

I really, honestly, hope you didn't send a single BTC greenplastic. Why would you even do that so fast? The last message I sent you from my old account, the one I've posted publicly, and where the deal is FAR from finalized, was sent a couple of hours before I warned you both in private message that I couldn't access my account. If what you say is true (you having payed), you have to have paid in that small timespan. Please provide that transaction id.

I dont know how my passwords keep changing. I dont want to take this conspiracy to far; but my passwords has been changed on two accounts now. The password has been changed on this account as well, so I dont think I will be able to access it after the auto-login is over. Whats happening here, mods?

You must be out of your mind, if you think I'm the one to blame with you account getting hacked.

Get real, sir.

I dont do that and thanks for finally giving a sign of life.

But please tell me you didn't send any funds like you stated earlier? This is my biggest worry!

I can vouch for greenplastic fwiw.  There is no way they are pulling some sort of scam.  If they sent the funds they are the victim here.  Silence.....could be for anything, work..personal things happening it wasnt days.  Either way i along with many other people have done business with gp and they have been nothing but professional on here.  This has nothing to do with me but i wanted to come on here to let you know green plastic is not the type to pull anything and im sure plenty of people can back that up.  I hope this gets settled appropriately for both parties.

Thanks for the backup, wheelz. Appreciate.

I think it's safe to say, BEWARE!   :-X

Yes, I'm sure I'm just getting emotional and fired up after getting hacked. I understand greenplastic is a deeply trusted member here unlike me, and I'm the first to admit I might be wrong and causing a lot of drama over nothing. There are, however, some simple points I would hope greenplastic could clarify for me:

- Did you send the payment as you stated earlier in this thread? How many and to what address? Did you use an escrow? If you didn't; why on earth would you just send the btc directly to a first-time seller without any guarantees?
- If there was a scammer (like you claim), posing as me, sending you a btc address, can you please release these messages either to me in private or to the public?

The fuck did you just say?

Well, I honestly hope I'm wrong about that. That means my coins really are worth that much...


Backup is always nice :) But could you please give some fast replies to my two points outlined above. I'm probably overreacting. But if you were scammed by my old account I feel you should be honest and open about it. You also casted doubt over the genuinity of my new account (in this thread) after I sent you proof in PM, why?

So here are my issues with the paranoia suspicions:
1. If Greenplastic is guilty, why would he hack the sellers account when greenplastic is the one sending the BTC? The seller wasn't going to send the item without payment so unless his plan was to guilt Godwine into sending the coins (a stupid plan) it makes no sense. Instead if his intent was to scam this auction he would have rather NOT won the auction, then hack Godwine and divert the buyer's BTC payment to himself.

2. If Godwine is guilty, why would he still be be posting on these forums? He would have had the BTC sent to him either way, and his reputation is totally ruined anyways for trading purposes. What is the point in trying to defend his name if it was just about the scam?

I think the most likely event is that some third party simply fished out Godwine's password as previously described, and is causing both parties to implode into paranoia right now as a consequence.

I think this is a very good sum up of the situation. As you say, I doubt anyone has the intention of trading with me here anymore, so I'm mainly staying to explain the way I see things. I've also spent a lot of time and attention to these forums lately, and it saddens me that nothing came of this auction, and it would end in such a way. For that I apologize to all participants.

I know the suspicions I raised earlier are extremely serious. That is why I want senior participants to be aware of them, and give greenplastic a chance to give brief answers/proofs to the issues I raised.

I at least get the feeling greenplastic didn't want to do the transaction for some reason or another. Me requiring a trusted set up with minerjones might not have been that reason.

There are two outcomes

1- the op got fished and a well respected member got taken for a decent amount of bitcoin

2- the op had something to do with this as far as claiming he got hacked.

Those in my head are the only 2 things that happened.  Period.

Well, thats what I'm asking for proof of! A simple txid + the original messages from the scammer. If admins here can check inbox messages and confirm this then the case would be "solved". Why would greenplastic claim he sent the BTC if he didn't? Not necessarily to guilt trip me into sending him coins, but to get out of this deal when he got cold feet for some reason.

Look this will be my last post on here but cold feet.  No.  You are reaching.  Something happened here and it wasnt gp backing out.  I will leave this up to you guys but backing out of this deal is not what happened here.  Will let you guys settle how this gets played out but i  know where i stand on this.

Well, I might be reaching, I'm truly not sure, that is why I'm letting you guys decide. Believe me, I'm doing this for you guys, not for myself.
But dont you agree its weird if greenplastic has sent several bitcoin to a completely new member without an escrow?
I'm off for the night as well. I hope greenplastic will have answered the very simple questions he has avoided many times when I get back. If he does this to a satisfying degree, I will log off and never bother anyone here again. Until then I feel some form of explanations is needed.

GP is a deity in this place, his integrity is without question. If you got hacked it is on you and you either owe GP a delivery or a refund. Your own account security is your own responsibility

Can someone help me understand why GP did not use escrow? for a newbi account with no trust.

i think #1 is what happened but why would gp send 3.5 first to a newbie

Like I've said earlier, I understand I'm the weaker, and less trusted part, in this situation. It truly is a David versus Goliath battle. Therefore I please ask you to look at the facts at hand, and not only the reputation of the userhandle. I could have just left if I really scammed someone, or tried to and was exposed, but I'm not and are never going to. I stay because I want senior members to stay careful while dealing with greenplastic in the future, at least until he disproves my allegations.


This! This is what I can't fathom as well. Why would he ever do that?


That's the central question, and if he can answer that I will believe he was indeed scammed, as he is trying to make the community believe. The way I see it there are now three possibilities:

1) greenplastic tried to scam me. Even with an escrow, the escrow would probably have sided with him, and not released any funds to me, if I sent the coins and he claimed I didn't. He got cold feet when I suggested we used minerjones reshipping service (as this would make such a scam attempt impossible).

2) greenplastic is compromised. Someone else is in possesion of his account as of typing. This would explain the silence and reluctance to give answers to very simple questions.
 
3) greenplastic was indeed scammed, and I'm making a shit load of drama out of nothing. In this case it should be easy for him to publicly disclose the used btc address as well as the messages he recieved from a scammer. These allegations could be disproven so easily, why aren't they?

dude you are digging a hole here... GP is not the one who fucked up, it was you. your account security isnt up to scratch, End of - no other discussion.

so as the account is your responsibility you will need to send the coins or a refund to GP when he posts the TX of payment

4) There was a battle of egos during bidding. In the heat of the 'bidding' the coins were bid for more than it shall be. Once the battle was over, bidder realized not worth it to honor the bid and was thinking for an excuse to get out of the deal. At the same time Godwine's account got hacked (by some hacker from china lol.. that's the url I got at least in my phishing email) and bidder saw an opportunity and casually (or sarcastically in bidder's mind ) posted 'I already paid'.

You're both realTrash new members that should be left with 0 Bitcoin as you fell for the simplest of phishing attempts. I would not trust either of you realAwesome dudes with the responsibility of shipping properly or having my address on hand. Both of you are making a joke of new members coming to the Collectibles forum and attempting to sell coins.

These coins hardly ever come up for auction or sale on this forum, they weren't bid up artificially as it has been my goal to own all of the early coins. These looked in good condition and were a low number. Ive paid 2+ BTC in premium for other coins so I was willing to take it up to that point with these. As you can see gp has deeper pockets than me and I bowed out (I've seen his ruthlessness in other auctions)

You actually have no respect for the coin makers Godswine as you think it was a battle of ego rather than the coins' worth.(edit - this was realediston, but Godswine shares the same belief as he stated earlier I am in cahoots with greenplastic apparently) I don't even know why you would say something like that when you are the seller and should be reaping the premium if you weren't such a shitshow.

All in all I believe gp is probably embarrassed about the situation and may be prepared to take the loss as a lesson learned. That is if he didn't use escrow which it appears to be.

I've yet to see GP not honoring a bid he made. Keep it real.

Chill bro. You shall be more relaxed.
I believe it is easy to call names like you are doing. I was just proposing another reason what it could be. By shouting or using foul words, and degrading us you are not helping anyone. You yourself have 0 Trust (btw). Stop calling people names.

You wrote 'Godswine as you think it was a battle of ego rather than the coins' worth. I don't even know why you would say something like that when you are the seller and should be reaping the premium if you weren't such a shitshow.' 
This is not appropriate, you cannot blame anyone. If he got phished that's a mistake. But I do not think you shall call some one names. Talk with reasons and evidence.

He was hoping to get a deal and now he has nothing. I am not taking sides. I am looking at the facts. I believe GP is a genuine guy but your words hurt people.

Anyways, I am out of this discussion. I hope truth will come out whatever it may be.

Well said. Agreed.

Me

Gotta say the timing and circumstance of this Godwine/realGodwine compromise smells scammy to me... If no then at minimum you n00bs need a class in internet common sense. Falling for simple phishing on a forum like this and you won't be holding on to your crypto for very long.  :(

Heart goes out to GP, you're a bro. I have a pitchfork if you need it

I have been away the last couple of days for personal reasons, and I am sorry for the delay for posting here.

@realGodwine - When I was just a newbie, greenplastic trusted me as well with a large sum of BTC to purchase Casascius coins from me, with no escrow. So if he has said he has paid, he has paid. You need to understand that this is YOUR problem, not greenplastics. I cannot think of a more reputable buyer on this forum, and he is my go to guy when I have something special I want to sell. Not once have I ever had a problem with him, payment, or anything. Sorry, but accusing greenplastic of being dodgy is just out of order.

You will both know that I was negotiating for that 3 BTC NOLA on his behalf anyway, we might as well make that open now too. Now, if I had continued to negotiate (you wanted to deal direct.. fine no worries, your prerogative), greenplastic would have paid me, I would tell you to ship the coin to me, and once here I would have sent your BTC. But eh, according to your PM you are the victim of a keylogger or something, so I likely would have paid the wrong address anyway as the hacker watches and waits, and then I would have been neck deep in it too.

Overall, this is your problem, not greenplastics. If you wish to have to have any integrity left here, you would refund the BTC, or send the coin. Further, I am quite capable of getting that txid for you to prove he has sent payment.

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What a total fuck up. I am so sorry greenplastic :(

Thank you for stepping up and at least partly believing me realediston!

I really just want to know the truth here as well. The theory you posted as "4)" might actually be what really happened here, or something close to it. I doubt greenplastic has direct control over my account, but at least someone does! Who here has the power to change/reset passphrases? I honestly want me to be wrong, and greenplastic to be right in this matter, I just still really doubt he sent lots of BTC to a untrusted first time seller.


I'm looking forward to him posting the tx as well, I have been requesting this txid for nearly 24 hours now.


Do you still think he is willing to honor the deal? I might be prone... I'm getting so frustrated here I really want to prove to the greater community that I didn't try to scam greenplastic or anyone else. How would that even be possible with my low trust rating? I'm sure no one here would send me payment first without escrow. If minerjones and greenplastic still are willing I will highly consider sending minerjones the coins, and he can check that they are as advertised. If they are, he can in turn sell them to greenplastic at the original bid. This will be a 100% safe process for both the buyer and me, the seller. If he truly want the coins at the rate he offered, he would accept this offer, as there is literally zero risk for him.



I know of the phishing attempt you and realediston are talking about (a PM message with a link allegedly reffering about one of my posts or something). I did not click that link, and quite certain I have been compromised in a different way.


I really try to not be a trash member by warning the other members of this community of a possible hacked/compromised/gone rogue account. You dont seem to have any trust rating yourself and could absolutely be a compromised account as well.

The offer I gave greenplastic stands for you as well. If you accept my minerjones offer and pay him your last bid in this auction, you would also prove you're not compromised/sockpuppet.

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If either user here (greenplastic or teeGUMES) accepts my offer I want all dealings to be done in public, including btc addresses, shipment details etc. Would also be nice if minerjones would chime in here.


Oh dear. If you say what is true, I'm really sorry for causing so much concern here. At this point I'm mostly interesten in the thruth to be honest. If you are capable of getting that txid, please do it, and please post it here publicly for everybody to see. I would also love to see the messages sent by the alleged scammer from my account. If this is posted, and especially if the admin confirms these messages were sent from my account, greenplastic was scammed, he is indeed telling the truth and my allegations can be dismissed entierly.

Can we please stop putting the blame on long standing, trusted members of this community?
You fucked up and got your account compromised. That's not GPs fault and trying to frame him for it is a joke.

If GP already has paid for the coins (which I assume he did, we'll wait for a txid to confirm that), I don't see any reason why they should pay double for the coins,
since you're the one who failed to secure their account.
I've said it once and I will say it again, your actions here greatly define the way this community perceives you and the way they interact with you.
That's fuckup number 2, wonder how many more there will be.

Nobody in their right mind would agree to disclosing shipping information/tracking details in public.
We can do better than doxxing ourselves.

Z got no skin in this fight, they hence have no reason to lie.
By "my allegations can be dismissed entirely", you mean refunding GP or sending the coins, right?

tl;dr teeGUMES does have a perfect trust rating, you just need to configure your trust settings to see it.

A short technical note:

You probably didn't configure your trust settings properly (go to a your trust page and click “Trust settings”). You need to add the users you trust to your trust list, or you will barely see any trust for regular members. A good start is to add a few widely trusted members (well-known escrows, for example). A whole new world (of trust) will open to you.

Good luck to those involed in this fiasco.

send the coins to MJ.. then GP shows the TX... the coins are his..

best way to deal with this - you accept that your security is the issue here.

I am willing to ship to GP as it is, he knows this, I do it regularly. So you have 2 choices, myself or MJ.

Secondly, tman is right... this is down to you, and securing your own computer. It appears that you have failed to do so.

I'm really sorry for casting doubt on a trusted community member, and I fully understand why you are very skeptical of my claims. You're probably right about no one wanting to buy the coins anymore, but thats not really why I'm still here either: I'm still here to prove I didn't scam anyone (as I've been accused of numerous times now), and I would love to get the truth as to what really happened from greenplastic.

I mean by posting the txid with a preferably signed transaction would undoubtedly be proof of the scam payment. The transaction should be similar to what he discussed with the scammer, and he should provide these messages either to me in private or publicly. He claimed he lost a shit ton of money, and some people here claimed i scammed him, why aren't he bothered to prove it?

If any of you trusted users (Lutpin, Zepher, minerjones) want to somehow talk with me (videomessage) or meet me IRL, I'm more than willing to.


Okey, thanks a lot. I didn't know.

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Alrigh guys, this is just turning in to namecalling and distrust, but please, please understand I'm only staying here to get a clarification, and find out the truth as to what happened. I will wait for greenplastic or Zepher to publicize the txid and the messages from the scammer and we can take it from there...

Don't worry, you haven't cast any doubt on greenplastic. If greenplastic shows the transaction, you're going to send him the coins since you're responsible for this user losing money? Otherwise, what is the point. I've seen greenplastic participate in, win and pay for dozens of expensive coin auctions without a single complaint. You however have created a new account here, set up an auction, sold an item and proceeded to lose access to your account when a payment was expected.

It is unlikely any real hacking was involved, you are either straight out lying or re-used your password here on another site, which resulted in another user losing many thousands of dollars. A wall of text on each post filled with counter accusations doesn't change that.

Thanks to all the members, who have shared their kind words. Truth!

I don't expect anything positive to come out of this.

Sing it...."You cannot burn, what is ALREADY on fire!"

I made the mistake of sending funds and skipping the Escrow method.
Yes, I have done this numerous times without being scammed.

Does it hurt?  Yes.

Do I expect I'll ever receive these coins?  No.

Will we see these NOLA coins on EBAY?  Likely.

BEWARE, humans.

Case closed.

Irie, forever.

If this indeed is true, why not prove it? It would be so easy... You haven't actually answered a single one of my questions! If you do that I will leave you in peace for ALL eternity and there would be absolutely no doubt. You're just saying vague shit instead, that doesn't prove anything. Why dont the other senior members require that you post the txtid at least? Is there any reason not to?

If you really did send the funds to someone on the Godwine account I'm deeply sorry for doubting you, I will eat all my words and HUMBLY apologize. Again, all this requieres is a simple proof from you.


No, you wont.

If he posts the TX will you send him the coins?

yeah no reason to post tx if your not gonna send the coins

if i was doing a trade with gp i would send first no problem no way hes lying

Can someone explain to me how godwines account was compromised? Because I just looked his trust page and it only says the email was changed and to change the email you need the password and if he was cookie grabbed the hacker wouldn't have the password just the cookie to log in.

Takes like 5 seconds:
https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php
June 21, 2017, 03:26:49 PM - Godwine - password changed

If you look at their trust page, you might see this:

https://i.snag.gy/O8gJHD.jpg

If you got troubles seeing the lower part, I'd suggest reading glasses.

If I (or my poor opsec) truly is to blame for greenplastic doing a fraudulent transaction (which he has yet to be prove), I might actually be willing to compensate him to some extend, yes, depending on the final deal he allegedly made with the scammer.

This would of course require undoubtful public proof of him being scammed:

- A transaction with reasonable value within the timespan of the hack and my first warning. Undoubtful proof would of course be him signing a transaction with these private keys.

- This transaction must naturaly match the shared private messages between him and the scammer. Undoubtful proof would be admin confirming these PMs were exchanged.

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I will not be as active in this forum going forward, as it's all been quite exhausting, but I will check in once in a while; and if greenplastics posts the proof I will reimburse some of the damage. There might be a easy answer to all of this, but the ambiguity has taken its toll on me (I would now be compensating a stupid mistake from a senior for the sake of truth). I would also like to apologize once again to every participant here including greenplastics and all the other senior members I trusted, and at some point perhaps trusted me. This is not how I intented this to end.

https://blockchain.info/tx/71749e03dabebf6b2222a9515697508a0cbd827d43a50cd6ddeffa6d29b22a87

I am 99.99% sure that is the transaction that GP sent.

That address is definitely not GPs. How did you find this tx?

And you're 100% wrong there. Please don't do random guessing.

Wrong. I am 100% sure of this.

I am not posting the genuine txid without his permission.

Now, it is 2:30am and I am going back to bed. Believe what you want Godwine. This has gone past the point of stupidity.

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Goodnight.

Yeah I realized I was wrong after I checked my PMs, but I went through all of GP's posts and not one tx ID that he has posted links to his wallet that he uses so I can assume that he keeps it private.

He has more than one address...don't we all?

Now, stop shitposting. GP's privacy is his privacy, it is his choice whether to post it, or not. If I am told I can post it, I will.

I will not be responding further unless I have something helpful to add.

I have been told, in no uncertain terms, to not provide the txid. This is your error, Godwine, and no one else's.

Fix this, or F off. That's my perspective.

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I will no longer be posting here.

Zepher

Since three weeks has passed and greenplastic doesn’t seem inclined to post the transaction id or the messages from the scammer in this thread (or in PM?), I feel I can withdraw my offer for some reimbursement of the allegedly stolen coins.

I truly wish all of you all the best, even if this wish isn’t reciprocal. Live well!

Disgusting.