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Economy => Micro Earnings => Topic started by: toecutter on June 25, 2017, 02:02:32 PM



Title: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: toecutter on June 25, 2017, 02:02:32 PM
2 mods: I know this belongs to spam accusations, but I'd be very grateful if you could keep this thread here, thank you.



I don't have any definitive proof, but hear me out:

1.

According to this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1936216.msg19226124#msg19226124 ,
epay.info started the auction on 10th June of 2017.

The faucet-pay.com domain name was also registered on 10th June of 2017.

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whois faucet-pay.com
Domain name: faucet-pay.com
Registry Domain ID: 2132679354_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2017-06-10T22:39:15.00Z
Creation Date: 2017-06-10T22:25:29.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-06-10T22:25:29.00Z
Registrar: NAMECHEAP INC
Registrar IANA ID: 1068

2.

It's pretty obvious, from the epay website, that the content was never written by an native english speaker.

There is VERY little content on faucet-pay.com right now, about 4 strings of text total, one of which is:

https://s7.postimg.org/w9cyhkffv/epfp_3.png

3.

No announcement here on bitcointalk, although, even if genuine, the timing is clearly connected to epay.info going rogue.

Why not come out in the clear and explain to your potential users what all this is about?

Compare this to the forum presense paytoshi, faucetbox (Kazuldur) and mexicantarget had/have.

4.

The most damning evidence I have, though, is this:

https://s22.postimg.org/e9hrsj58x/epfp_1.png

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ePay.info was lunched on September, 2014 to give multiple services to Bitcoin community.
Right now we offer Faucet middle man service .
That allowed faucet users to collect coins from faucets in one place and get them in one payout to.
ePay.info is a non-profit system, we do not get any fee from our users.
We earn by showing a few ads on our own sites and pages.

https://s3.postimg.org/o7r4tdmkj/epfp_2.png

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faucet-pay.com was lunched on june, 2017 to give multiple services to Bitcoin community.
Right now we offer Faucet gateway service .
That allowed faucet users to collect coins from faucets in one place and get them in one payout to.
Faucet-pay.com is a non-profit crypto bank, we do not get any fee from our users.
We earn by showing an ads on our own sites and pages.

This could be explained somehow, but hell, it would sould pretty crazy.



I'm pretty sure if this one fails, a new one is going to pop up pretty soon.

Stay vigilant.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: tsaroz on June 25, 2017, 02:11:08 PM
The 4th one is similar. But Epay was much more organised site than this one.

But I don't think that any microwallet are created for scamming as they don't hold a large amount.

Epay might have made some serious mistakes to go out of business.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: toecutter on June 25, 2017, 02:18:04 PM
The 4th one is similar.

Similar or identical?

But Epay was much more organised site than this one.

I wouldn't call it more "organized", but it definitely had more features. Which is kinda irrelevant.

But I don't think that any microwallet are created for scamming as they don't hold a large amount.

Regular faucets are created for scamming, surely a HUB of such faucets* is even more lucrative?
* no pun intended

Epay might have made some serious mistakes to go out of business.

Yeah, bitcoin price going up 2.5-fold made them decide to take it all out. Although, again, irrelevant.

Anyways, appreciate you checking it out, and you (and everybody else) absolutely must form their own opinions on the issue, I'm just sharing what I found.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: tungaqhd on June 25, 2017, 02:20:55 PM
3.

No announcement here on bitcointalk, although, even if genuine, the timing is clearly connected to epay.info going rogue.

Why not come out in the clear and explain to your potential users what all this is about?

Compare this to the forum presense paytoshi, faucetbox (Kazuldur) and mexicantarget had/have.

4.

The most damning evidence I have, though, is this:

https://s22.postimg.org/e9hrsj58x/epfp_1.png

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ePay.info was lunched on September, 2014 to give multiple services to Bitcoin community.
Right now we offer Faucet middle man service . That allowed faucet users to collect coins from faucets in one place and get them in one payout to.
ePay.info is a non-profit system, we do not get any fee from our users.
We earn by showing a few ads on our own sites and pages.

https://s3.postimg.org/o7r4tdmkj/epfp_2.png

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faucet-pay.com was lunched on june, 2017 to give multiple services to Bitcoin community. Right now we offer Faucet gateway service . That allowed faucet users to collect coins from faucets in one place and get them in one payout to.

    Faucet-pay.com is a non-profit crypto bank, we do not get any fee from our users. We earn by showing an ads on our own sites and pages.

Stay vigilant.
I agree. Why don't they open a ANN thread here. In the last 6 months, we have seen many scam "Faucet middle man service". Some faucets in their list have a very hight rewards. It may be a good promotion  ::)


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: bitcoinblog on June 25, 2017, 06:56:55 PM
Faucet-pay.com was lunched on june, 2017  ;D


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: mexicantarget on June 25, 2017, 08:11:42 PM
World's Largest Faucet Network


@ toecutter,

I'm 100% sure it's them.

Where did you find that (their) link?

PS: Their "100% ad revenue" scheme never changes, that's what makes me 100% sure it's them. (Not that those placeholders aren't screaming "EPAY")
No one in their right mind would have the b*lls to launch a microwallet service based 100% on ad revenue, if they didn't know what they're doing.

There's no issues with more microwallets in this scene, we do need more actually, but this lowlife epay guy should stop wasting people's time, before this gets out of hand.



Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: fragilefungi on June 25, 2017, 08:45:13 PM
The recent withdrawal should be enough to let you know it is a scam.  There are no transaction IDs listed for the nice round numbers.  If you search for the address on explorer all have 0 transactions and 0 balance.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: yambub on June 25, 2017, 08:47:05 PM

Regular faucets are created for scamming, surely a HUB of such faucets* is even more lucrative?
* no pun intended

What are you talking about? That's provably untrue, A few scammers make faucets, but your statement is nonsense.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: speedup-faucet.com on June 25, 2017, 09:41:05 PM
The recent withdrawal should be enough to let you know it is a scam.  There are no transaction IDs listed for the nice round numbers.  If you search for the address on explorer all have 0 transactions and 0 balance.

Totally agree.
I have launched a faucet rotator recently and added their faucets to my list but looking at the recent withdrawal with no real transaction, I think I should just remove their faucets from my list to stop wasting people times.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: LTU_btc on June 25, 2017, 10:34:20 PM
Nice job, toecutter!
If it would be legit service, they would post announcement here on bitcointalk and communicate via social networks.
Looks that epay team was very bussy while creating this site - there are only few lines of text with grammar mistakes. I hope now they won't find many victims.
In past few months there was some more microwallets started, but all of them gone after few weeks. We have to be very careful with all these new services, because majority of them want to scam us.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: faucet-pay on June 26, 2017, 02:01:21 PM
Hello All,

Faucet-pay.com is not same as epay.info or we are not epay

yes the content is same as epay because our developers are testing the gateway so it is in beta version, they copied the content from epay and its not changed yet.
you can differ us with our faucet list all faucets are our own. our system is still not completed.

faucet-pay.com going to provide various services to users like Mobile recharge,exchange,buy-sell,transfer & shopping etc.. using your faucet balance.

any one can contact via email (admin@faucet-pay.com) as of now. we are ready to clear your confusion any time




Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: FusionSe7en on June 26, 2017, 02:28:16 PM
Hello All,

Faucet-pay.com is not same as epay.info or we are not epay

yes the content is same as epay because our developers are testing the gateway so it is in beta version, they copied the content from epay and its not changed yet.
you can differ us with our faucet list all faucets are our own. our system is still not completed.

faucet-pay.com going to provide various services to users like Mobile recharge,exchange,buy-sell,transfer & shopping etc.. using your faucet balance.

any one can contact via email (admin@faucet-pay.com) as of now. we are ready to clear your confusion any time




One suggestion: change your theme, it's bad. It has lag and is not the most beautiful.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: mexicantarget on June 26, 2017, 02:45:45 PM
Hello All,

Faucet-pay.com is not same as epay.info or we are not epay

yes the content is same as epay because our developers are testing the gateway so it is in beta version, they copied the content from epay and its not changed yet.
you can differ us with our faucet list all faucets are our own. our system is still not completed.

faucet-pay.com going to provide various services to users like Mobile recharge,exchange,buy-sell,transfer & shopping etc.. using your faucet balance.

any one can contact via email (admin@faucet-pay.com) as of now. we are ready to clear your confusion any time



I swear to god (whatever god you believe to) I was going to say they're going to write this haha
Quote
yes the content is same as epay because our developers are testing the gateway so it is in beta version, they copied the content from epay and its not changed yet.
you can differ us with our faucet list all faucets are our own. our system is still not completed.

Also, dummy. What does epay's site have to do anything with your getaway? ::)

Anyway, good luck, epay, but not epay!
Think different, but much different, this time.
Also, this time, please don't employ any imaginary females, we don't want to have wet dreams.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: tsaroz on June 26, 2017, 06:02:46 PM
Hello All,

Faucet-pay.com is not same as epay.info or we are not epay

yes the content is same as epay because our developers are testing the gateway so it is in beta version, they copied the content from epay and its not changed yet.
you can differ us with our faucet list all faucets are our own. our system is still not completed.

faucet-pay.com going to provide various services to users like Mobile recharge,exchange,buy-sell,transfer & shopping etc.. using your faucet balance.

any one can contact via email (admin@faucet-pay.com) as of now. we are ready to clear your confusion any time




All we need is a fair and healthy competition. Microwallet, faucets and users all can benefit at the same time if everything is done the proper way.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: mexicantarget on June 28, 2017, 01:34:38 AM
You know what's the coolest part?

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We bought epay info databae becoz epay bestest evur databae
Or epay comes out and "gifts" them the database/anything related with epay.
They might even say that they've got the domain and going to redirect it to the new scam site.

By posting this info here I'm hopefully going to scare them and prove this theory if it ever happens.

Please,
faucet-pay,
buy epay
and show us the way


http://replygif.net/i/500.gif


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: superiorus on June 28, 2017, 07:08:00 AM
A scammer is always... a scammer!
I was sure they will come with a new website and try to scam people again.
There are too many scammers in this bitcoin world...
Fortunately I did not used ePay.info for my faucets.



Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: Akif52 on June 28, 2017, 10:00:15 AM
A scammer is always... a scammer!
I was sure they will come with a new website and try to scam people again.
There are too many scammers in this bitcoin world...
Fortunately I did not used ePay.info for my faucets.



Hey, this site(faucet pay) scam or legit?


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: speedup-faucet.com on June 28, 2017, 10:32:39 AM
A scammer is always... a scammer!
I was sure they will come with a new website and try to scam people again.
There are too many scammers in this bitcoin world...
Fortunately I did not used ePay.info for my faucets.



Hey, this site(faucet pay) scam or legit?

The fact that the recent withdrawal has no read transaction ID over blockchain obviously tells you that it is scam.
Unless site admin can explain what they are trying to show people with the recent withdrawal?


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: BTCforJoe on June 29, 2017, 06:33:48 AM
Hello All,

Faucet-pay.com is not same as epay.info or we are not epay

yes the content is same as epay because our developers are testing the gateway so it is in beta version, they copied the content from epay and its not changed yet.
you can differ us with our faucet list all faucets are our own. our system is still not completed.

faucet-pay.com going to provide various services to users like Mobile recharge,exchange,buy-sell,transfer & shopping etc.. using your faucet balance.

any one can contact via email (admin@faucet-pay.com) as of now. we are ready to clear your confusion any time




I love how you claim that you are not the same, but the grammatical patterns of errors in your post matches the grammatical patterns of errors in both sites. By denying that you are the same admin, you're inviting people to nitpick and criticize everything that you do, just so they can prove that you are, in fact, a douchebag scammer. By continuing to deny these allegations, you only dig a bigger and bigger hole for yourself, and ultimately, as you try to do anything in this industry, you'll developed a HUGE target on your back.

Just admit that epay and faucet-pay are both yours, and get the lynching over with. Why pick at your wounds and die a slow death when you can just rip off the bandaid and get it over with?

Serously, no one with a brain buys your bullshit. You may think you're fooling us, but if you seriously believe that we are dumb enough to believe you just because you say it's not you, then you deserve everything that is coming your way.

Just remember that in the end, when it all comes crashing down on you, that YOU brought it upon yourself by continuing to lie to the very people who made you your dirty money in the first place. You know the saying "don't bite the hand that feeds you"? Yeah, don't bite the fucking hands that feed you.

Douchebag.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: pramila28 on July 07, 2017, 06:16:35 AM
Do you all have Brains in Tracking the People?  ???

From where you are getting Information?

Even if you get information you are spreading false information without communication :o

Track Epay Admin instead of Hitting on FaucetPay (New Site)


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: pramila28 on July 07, 2017, 06:46:53 AM
FaucetPay is not Likely to be Epay.Info

One Official is in India - Surat Gujarat - I have communicated with them


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: pramila28 on July 07, 2017, 07:01:36 PM
Stop spreading Wrong News

Here is the communication Proofs of FaucetPay Admin


Communication is here http://prntscr.com/fsshwj

Full Communication - http://prntscr.com/fssvjk

They are not belonging to Epay - site is registered in Panama and they are in India


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: mexicantarget on July 07, 2017, 10:24:06 PM
Stop spreading Wrong News

Here is the communication Proofs of FaucetPay Admin


Communication is here http://prntscr.com/fsshwj

Full Communication - http://prntscr.com/fssvjk

They are not belonging to Epay - site is registered in Panama and they are in India
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1955169.new#new

Oh, and.
I have some screenshots of myself telling some random person on then internet that I'm Satoshi Nakamoto.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: pramila28 on July 08, 2017, 04:44:17 AM
Moderators of Bitcoin Talk - Please note this Point - FaucetPay Admin is Gujarati BackGround - they are not familiar with English.


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: pramila28 on July 08, 2017, 04:46:30 AM
Moderators of Bitcoin Talk - Please note this Point - FaucetPay Admin is Gujarati BackGround - they are not familiar with English.

they launched new site in June 2017 - not posted their Site Launching details in Bitcointalk org. They are new to this bitcointalk org


Title: Re: FAUCET-PAY.COM likely same admin as EPAY.INFO
Post by: pramila28 on July 08, 2017, 05:00:23 AM
Lucas R can't be Indian - He is from Brazil or USA

If I get this Detail of Lucas R then I will be at Success in my Research Work * Communication { to confirm both are Different People }

Epay.Info is not using Namecheap

http://www.simplywhois.com/whois/epay.info
REGISTRAR INFO
Name    OnlineNIC, Inc.
Referral URL    http://www.onlinenic.com
IMPORTANT DATES
Updated:    2017-06-09 15:51:37 (28 days ago)
Created:    2010-09-27 11:12:03 (6 years, 9 months & 15 days ago)
Expires:    2017-09-27 11:12:03 (2 months & 21 days ago)
Refreshed:    4 Days Ago

FaucetPay is using Namecheap
REGISTRAR INFO
Name    NAMECHEAP INC
Referral URL    http://www.namecheap.com
IMPORTANT DATES
Updated:    2017-06-10 23:39:15 (27 days ago)
Created:    2017-06-10 23:25:29 (27 days ago)
Expires:    2018-06-10 00:00:00 (11 months & 7 days ago)
Refreshed:    14 Days Ago

FaucetPay Admin is in India (Real Location)