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Title: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maiduy1792 on June 27, 2017, 04:29:35 PM
Have you heard about the baikal sold asic 2000mh / s?
http://sv1.upsieutoc.com/2017/06/27/19437297_1324958100944940_2961562514344099309_n.jpg
http://sv1.upsieutoc.com/2017/06/27/19437302_1324958107611606_3164829909654279538_n.jpg

https://youtu.be/Yx1cjjscB9U
Many people already own it.Baikal does not update their new product on the website.

There seems to be a discrimination against international buyers and Chinese customers.
I really want to have their products, I have been in contact with them for a very long time through email and skype, but I always get the answer is "out of stocks".So while they sell new products to others.I feel very sad and disappointed about Baikal.
They do not respect foreign customers.








Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Vaccinus on June 27, 2017, 04:43:08 PM
is that a new version of the a 900 giant or what? because their strongest mined us the cube I think with 1200mh anyway unlink have s better one with 10800mh in speed


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Truthchanter on June 27, 2017, 05:09:43 PM
Have you heard about the baikal sold asic 2000mh / s?
http://sv1.upsieutoc.com/2017/06/27/19437297_1324958100944940_2961562514344099309_n.jpg
http://sv1.upsieutoc.com/2017/06/27/19437302_1324958107611606_3164829909654279538_n.jpg

Many people already own it.Baikal does not update their new product on the website.

There seems to be a discrimination against international buyers and Chinese customers.
I really want to have their products, I have been in contact with them for a very long time through email and skype, but I always get the answer is "out of stocks".So while they sell new products to others.I feel very sad and disappointed about Baikal.
They do not respect foreign customers.








I haven't heard of it until now. Where did you hear about this?


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maiduy1792 on June 27, 2017, 05:55:13 PM
https://youtu.be/Yx1cjjscB9U


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: QuintLeo on June 27, 2017, 07:07:10 PM
I vaguely remember seeing a "cube-derived" miner on the Baikal website somewhere, but thought it was 1800 Mh/s not 2000.



Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: bittawm on June 27, 2017, 07:41:25 PM
dick head company with good products, we could help them go so far in the western world if they actually gave a fuck


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: jekecoin on June 27, 2017, 08:32:36 PM
Wow another giant multi algo :O


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: leowonderful on June 27, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
Well, with such a profitable miner that is capable of switching algos and making a large amount of money per day, they have no reason to sell it overseas with added electrical cost when they can sell the miner to those in China. It's sad but true, they might even be mining with it themselves.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: bittawm on June 27, 2017, 10:34:16 PM
Well, with such a profitable miner that is capable of switching algos and making a large amount of money per day, they have no reason to sell it overseas with added electrical cost when they can sell the miner to those in China. It's sad but true, they might even be mining with it themselves.

they are mining 110%


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Gunna01 on June 27, 2017, 10:53:11 PM
What are the default addresses configured when baikals are shipped? Check them out to see if they are receiving coins


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maiduy1792 on June 27, 2017, 11:17:51 PM
Well, with such a profitable miner that is capable of switching algos and making a large amount of money per day, they have no reason to sell it overseas with added electrical cost when they can sell the miner to those in China. It's sad but true, they might even be mining with it themselves.

if you conect from international to baikalminer you can see a QQ ID,if you conect from china You will see a different QQ address.
If you speak English with that QQ account, or your QQ is not Chinese they will not respond.
If you do not believe you can try with proxy sock5 server in china!!!



Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: leowonderful on June 27, 2017, 11:34:05 PM
Well, with such a profitable miner that is capable of switching algos and making a large amount of money per day, they have no reason to sell it overseas with added electrical cost when they can sell the miner to those in China. It's sad but true, they might even be mining with it themselves.

if you conect from international to baikalminer you can see a QQ ID,if you conect from china You will see a different QQ address.
If you speak English with that QQ account, or your QQ is not Chinese they will not respond.
If you do not believe you can try with proxy sock5 server in china!!!


That's pretty damn ridiculous, I bet they even offer lower prices to Chinese buyers for all we know. I always knew Baikal was doing some scummy shit but this is just out of hand... If they're going to do this, they may as well only let the Chinese buy and block the page to foreigners.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maleemk on June 28, 2017, 12:57:27 AM
AFIK. The new cube is just 2x 150Mhz. Chip. Nothing new just a old product in new package.
If BAIKAL will not come out with new product with lower price point than. They will suffer in both International and Chinese market. We should remember that ibelink 11Ghz miner is also coming out of China and Chinese miner must be aware of it also.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: bclcjunkie on June 28, 2017, 02:33:55 AM
going to unload most of my stash on ibelinks just to fuck Baikal over. The fuckers dumped ton of hash when second batch ibelink buyers were trying to break even. Now it's going to be Baikal's turn to bend over.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: TheFoes on June 28, 2017, 03:55:58 AM
from the pictures.. it seem the user "asicmi" assuming its "asicminermarket".. so baikal just really dont care about us.. T.T

http://sv1.upsieutoc.com/2017/06/27/19437302_1324958107611606_3164829909654279538_n.jpg


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: couture on June 28, 2017, 06:30:52 AM
Not that it offers us any help, but I emailed Baikal last night (and for some reason im lucky enough that they always reply to me) but they have said the usual - all miners are out of stock... for now... and unsure when new batch in stock -

I hope the ibelinks are delayed a tiny bit so that my cubes dont get crushed just yet! haha


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maiduy1792 on June 28, 2017, 07:36:48 AM
Every day I ask if they have the goods for me, I expect to buy it. I have been waiting for about 2 months
But as you see, they sell to others.
I'm feeling very sad


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: rogersofnorwich on June 28, 2017, 11:03:57 PM
we need a guy in china!  :D


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: sil2222 on June 29, 2017, 01:14:43 PM
Have you heard about the baikal sold asic 2000mh / s?
http://sv1.upsieutoc.com/2017/06/27/19437297_1324958100944940_2961562514344099309_n.jpg
http://sv1.upsieutoc.com/2017/06/27/19437302_1324958107611606_3164829909654279538_n.jpg

https://youtu.be/Yx1cjjscB9U
Many people already own it.Baikal does not update their new product on the website.

There seems to be a discrimination against international buyers and Chinese customers.
I really want to have their products, I have been in contact with them for a very long time through email and skype, but I always get the answer is "out of stocks".So while they sell new products to others.I feel very sad and disappointed about Baikal.
They do not respect foreign customers.




Did you know they are asking $9600.00  per piece? Thats way too expensive!!!




Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: sil2222 on June 29, 2017, 01:26:14 PM
Have you heard about the baikal sold asic 2000mh / s?
http://sv1.upsieutoc.com/2017/06/27/19437297_1324958100944940_2961562514344099309_n.jpg
http://sv1.upsieutoc.com/2017/06/27/19437302_1324958107611606_3164829909654279538_n.jpg

Many people already own it.Baikal does not update their new product on the website.

There seems to be a discrimination against international buyers and Chinese customers.
I really want to have their products, I have been in contact with them for a very long time through email and skype, but I always get the answer is "out of stocks".So while they sell new products to others.I feel very sad and disappointed about Baikal.
They do not respect foreign customers.


Chinese resellers are charging $9600 for 1 unit baikal 2000 mhs bitcoin only. its not worth it. They have been ignoring customers because they are gauging prices on ebay and alibaba and also using miners for themselves.






I haven't heard of it until now. Where did you hear about this?


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: TomPlatz on June 29, 2017, 09:50:39 PM
Well, with such a profitable miner that is capable of switching algos and making a large amount of money per day, they have no reason to sell it overseas with added electrical cost when they can sell the miner to those in China. It's sad but true, they might even be mining with it themselves.
This is what I said about the giveaway price of the big iBelink, why sell it if in two weeks or less it has paid for the cost price of the components, they dont need to sell it at that price and could have easily asked 2x or 3x and still would be attractive, or more believable.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: KougarLOB on June 30, 2017, 12:55:24 AM
There's not enough information in the cropped, low resolution image or 7-second video to come to any conclusions.
Giants can be chained together like the Minis.  A single controller can drive several units.  Only benefit is you save 5 watts per Orange Pi.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: cybernetik7 on June 30, 2017, 01:47:50 AM
I bought the 300 mh/s and have had good success with it. Wondering if I should turn it off every so often though, and give it a "rest" tho ??


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: newmz on June 30, 2017, 02:31:07 AM
I bought the 300 mh/s and have had good success with it. Wondering if I should turn it off every so often though, and give it a "rest" tho ??

No. Electronics are made to run. As long as you keep them within the preferred tolerances (usually remperature) they are fine running all the time. In fact - I believe that people who have devices that they shut down after using them or power cycle them multiple times a day have more potential for problems. I leave all my PCs running all the time. Laptops "sleep" when you close the lid obviously but all my GPU mining rigs and ASICs run 24/7 if I can help it.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: cybernetik7 on June 30, 2017, 05:19:51 AM
I bought the 300 mh/s and have had good success with it. Wondering if I should turn it off every so often though, and give it a "rest" tho ??

No. Electronics are made to run. As long as you keep them within the preferred tolerances (usually remperature) they are fine running all the time. In fact - I believe that people who have devices that they shut down after using them or power cycle them multiple times a day have more potential for problems. I leave all my PCs running all the time. Laptops "sleep" when you close the lid obviously but all my GPU mining rigs and ASICs run 24/7 if I can help it.

Thanks for the advice newmz  ;D  I let him humm.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Vaccinus on June 30, 2017, 08:25:14 AM
I bought the 300 mh/s and have had good success with it. Wondering if I should turn it off every so often though, and give it a "rest" tho ??

no you would lose money, keep it open all the time, just one thign is to check the temp, but the baikal have an auto protection where if it goes above 72° it stop automatically, so you don't have to worry about anything


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: wolf_miner on July 01, 2017, 11:48:42 AM
I love Baikal miner, but is impossible tu buy them, they are always "Out of stock" .

W_M


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Searing on July 01, 2017, 01:37:47 PM
I love Baikal miner, but is impossible tu buy them, they are always "Out of stock" .

W_M

I suspect they sold this (if it exists) 2000 mh miner to someone BIG immediately after getting the specs on the ibelink 10g miner.

and probably working on something equiv...in other words they skipped and punted and are playing catch up

but yeah..getting these miners is like fishing for goldfish in the ocean



Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Vaccinus on July 01, 2017, 02:07:35 PM
I love Baikal miner, but is impossible tu buy them, they are always "Out of stock" .

W_M

isn't this a good thing? the diff won't increase anymore if they are out of stock, unless of course they are mining with the baikal that they produce, and then say they are out of stock lol, some company do this, if there is still good profit to be made


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: leowonderful on July 01, 2017, 04:37:13 PM
I love Baikal miner, but is impossible tu buy them, they are always "Out of stock" .

W_M

isn't this a good thing? the diff won't increase anymore if they are out of stock, unless of course they are mining with the baikal that they produce, and then say they are out of stock lol, some company do this, if there is still good profit to be made
They definitely are mining themselves or selling locally with the huge margins of profit these miners are making, even the first gen 150MH miner. Why sell internationally when you can (1) mine yourself and make insane profit, or (2) sell locally without the hassle of customs and shipping?


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: ekrififi on July 01, 2017, 08:48:32 PM
Just to clarify... There MAY be a new 2000 mh/s (2GH/s) baikal asic for x11, which looks like baikal's A900. Baikal hasn't announced it, nor do they have it for sale on their website. That could either be because it doesn't actually exist, or because they have/will only sold/sell it to large Chinese outfits. Either way, it would still be 1/5 as powerful as the Ibelink...

Is that about the size of it?


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: igotek on July 01, 2017, 09:21:03 PM
No any official announcement. Just sit and wait for an official announcement. I m sure they will put it on the web site if they produce any new miner.

I think it is too hard to produce the chips in the miners.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: daserpent on July 04, 2017, 06:59:23 PM
How much can we make with this 2000mhs miner?


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maleemk on July 04, 2017, 09:46:24 PM
I love Baikal miner, but is impossible tu buy them, they are always "Out of stock" .

W_M

I suspect they sold this (if it exists) 2000 mh miner to someone BIG immediately after getting the specs on the ibelink 10g miner.

and probably working on something equiv...in other words they skipped and punted and are playing catch up

but yeah..getting these miners is like fishing for goldfish in the ocean


Your statement is the best scenario I can think of right now. BAIKAL is in the best position to come out with better miner as compare with ibelink. If ibelink can come out with 20x better miner then there previous generation miner than BAIKAL just have to produce 10x or 5x better miner and I think they can easily do it by upgrading from 28 nm process to 22nm or even 14nm.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: isoneguy on July 05, 2017, 07:28:00 AM
No any official announcement. Just sit and wait for an official announcement. I m sure they will put it on the web site if they produce any new miner.

I think it is too hard to produce the chips in the miners.

music to my ears, but i've had similar thoughts...the closer you get to 0nm the harder it is to even look at the chips without them dissolving.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: wolf_miner on July 07, 2017, 11:47:32 AM
Hi, do they sell miner in the chinese market only?


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: jekecoin on July 07, 2017, 04:49:41 PM
Hi, do they sell miner in the chinese market only?

normally is world wide...


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: thesavoyard on July 07, 2017, 06:32:54 PM
This is the problem with ASICs, they allow monopolies. All ASIC mined coins are more centralized. We need to boycott them IMO. Force teh Devs to add ASIC resistance or die off. I like everything about Dash but can't support a coin where Chinese data farms control 45% of the supply and 4500 masternodes control the rest. Way too centralized to become a mass adopted crypto.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: benjy33 on July 07, 2017, 11:01:33 PM
where to buy ?


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maleemk on July 08, 2017, 04:28:08 AM
Just having a conversation with Baikalminers over skype.
I can confirm the following.

Appearance is like Giant A900
hashrate: 2000Mh/s
power consumption: 430W
Price 7000usd

 


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: NoxX on July 08, 2017, 08:45:32 AM
Just having a conversation with Baikalminers over skype.
I can confirm the following.

Appearance is like Giant A900
hashrate: 2000Mh/s
power consumption: 430W
Price 7000usd

 

So it is essentially 7 CUBEs in one device.

CUBE = 300 Mh/s with 40-80W for 1000 USD at release.

If this is true I am not very impressed...


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Legav2021 on July 08, 2017, 08:50:38 AM
Just having a conversation with Baikalminers over skype.
I can confirm the following.

Appearance is like Giant A900
hashrate: 2000Mh/s
power consumption: 430W
Price 7000usd

 

So it is essentially 7 CUBEs in one device.

CUBE = 300 Mh/s with 40-80W for 1000 USD at release.

If this is true I am not very impressed...

Cube was 800$ at release


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: NoxX on July 08, 2017, 08:52:09 AM
Just having a conversation with Baikalminers over skype.
I can confirm the following.

Appearance is like Giant A900
hashrate: 2000Mh/s
power consumption: 430W
Price 7000usd

 

So it is essentially 7 CUBEs in one device.

CUBE = 300 Mh/s with 40-80W for 1000 USD at release.

If this is true I am not very impressed...

Cube was 800$ at release

Even less impressed then  :D


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: pikachuy on July 08, 2017, 09:11:11 AM
Just having a conversation with Baikalminers over skype.
I can confirm the following.

Appearance is like Giant A900
hashrate: 2000Mh/s
power consumption: 430W
Price 7000usd

 

So it is essentially 7 CUBEs in one device.

CUBE = 300 Mh/s with 40-80W for 1000 USD at release.

If this is true I am not very impressed...

Cube was 800$ at release

Even less impressed then  :D

What doesn't make sense is comparing these two:

New Giant
2000Mh/s
430W??? But for which algo?
Price: 7000usd

or

(2) Quad-CUBES
2400Mh/s combined hashrate
440W combined for Qubit or worst case 600W combined for x11
Price: 6392usd combined

Seems like progress is going backwards, because you are paying for more for less hashrate with the new device to maybe save 200watts of power if that 430w is for x11???


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Legav2021 on July 08, 2017, 10:44:05 AM
Just having a conversation with Baikalminers over skype.
I can confirm the following.

Appearance is like Giant A900
hashrate: 2000Mh/s
power consumption: 430W
Price 7000usd

 

So it is essentially 7 CUBEs in one device.

CUBE = 300 Mh/s with 40-80W for 1000 USD at release.

If this is true I am not very impressed...

Cube was 800$ at release

Even less impressed then  :D

What doesn't make sense is comparing these two:

New Giant
2000Mh/s
430W??? But for which algo?
Price: 7000usd

or

(2) Quad-CUBES
2400Mh/s combined hashrate
440W combined for Qubit or worst case 600W combined for x11
Price: 6392usd combined

Seems like progress is going backwards, because you are paying for more for less hashrate with the new device to maybe save 200watts of power if that 430w is for x11???

So we have: 
800$ for cube which is 300Mh and 75w (x11)
2400$ for giant A900 which is 900Mh and 217w (x11) 
7000$ for new miner which is 2050Mh and 430w (we assume it x11)

Cube: 2.6$/1Mh/0.25w
GiantA900: 2.6$/1Mh/0.24w
New miner: 3.4$/1Mh/0.20w

We pay 0.8$ for 0.04w economy
It about 2 years(if you pay 0.1$ for electricity)

So it seems no progress in Hashrate and big progress in Baikal's greed


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: igotek on July 08, 2017, 11:16:59 AM

woooov if it is true, it s a big playing on X11 DASH algo

Dont think about the price. You can check the GPU prices. The GPUs priceses is getting higher values day by day.
If the baikal team comes with new products, they have to set a reasonable price for them. Dont jurge them. I will buy a couple of the new miners even if the prices is higher than 7000 USD. Because I know their miner is the best ones on all ASIC miners and GPUs.

Go Go Go Baikal Team !!!!!  :D


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Legav2021 on July 08, 2017, 11:29:30 AM

woooov if it is true, it s a big playing on X11 DASH algo

Dont think about the price. You can check the GPU prices. The GPUs priceses is getting higher values day by day.
If the baikal team comes with new products, they have to set a reasonable price for them. Dont jurge them. I will buy a couple of the new miners even if the prices is higher than 7000 USD. Because I know their miner is the best ones on all ASIC miners and GPUs.

Go Go Go Baikal Team !!!!!  :D

Not AMD or Nvidia set high prices for their gpus, not asus, msi, etc. Reseller set prices for gpus. Baikal is manufacturer, and if they set higher prices for same chips its not the good move

Also we khow that old baikal A900 and cubes have hardware errors if chip temperature jump over 60° degrees, there we can see 67° and 71° so you cant say that they are stable like cubes and old giant on 40°

For 7000$ you can(or could) buy Ibelink 10.8Gh
So where is Baikal's advantage if for same price you have 5 times less profitability?(ok, i know that baikals are more reliable, and have lower power consumption, but it not worth it if you can make 5x more money at the same time)


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 08, 2017, 11:48:51 AM
If this is true then Baikal not only just priced themselves out of the market, but they also did not respond to the 11g iBelink that is reported to be far more efficient than the Baikal.  This is very disappointing news.

Now is the time to wait and see what happens with the iBelink.  Who knows what kind of crazy price we will see from them.  They should be providing more details shortly about the 11g. 


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: wolf_miner on July 08, 2017, 12:35:04 PM
Hi, for my opinion,  $7000 is a nonsense price. Remember that they sold mini at $300 (Mini: 2.0$/1Mh/0.25w) they have increased the price of 30% with the cube (Giant/Cube: 2.6$/1Mh/0.25w) and now they increased again of 30% (New miner: 3.4$/1Mh/0.20w).
I love baikal product, but at this price ROI will be absolutly very or too long.

W_M



Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maleemk on July 08, 2017, 05:27:24 PM
7000 USD is expensive. But the catch is they are delivering it within a week and with ibelink it's still 3 weeks plus who knows.
Either way I am passing this batch.
Thank BAIKAL but no thanks. We should wait for at least a month.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: wolf_miner on July 08, 2017, 06:57:03 PM
But now, Baikal has some kinds of miners on sale?

W_M


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 08, 2017, 07:13:44 PM
Not yet, check their web site, nothing in stock yet.  At 7k I have a hard time believing people are going to be snatching these up unless we have a lot more people here that don't know how to run a calculator than I assume... The price is not realistic... Anyone buying is going to get killed when the iBelink starts shipping.  I can't even imagine what that ROI calculation would look like when the iBelink miners hit the network for anyone holding the bag for a 7k Baikal at 2gh... It would be BRUTAL.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maleemk on July 08, 2017, 08:00:53 PM
HERE IS THE EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OFFICIAL BAIKAL MINER EMAIL AFTER MY SKYPE CONVERSATION WITH THEM. (YES ITS A LEGIT EMAIL AND SKYPE ACCOUNT AS I HAVE BOUGHT WITH THEM SEVERAL MINER WITH SAME SKYPE AND EMAIL, NOTE THAT I WAS ASKING FOR 10 OF THESE GIANTS).

Hi,
 
Further the conversation on Skype.
 
Total cost would be:
Miner+shipping=70000+543=70543usd
 
Ship to:
Aleem Khan
--------------------------
Phone:------------------
 
Bank info for receiving payment please find from attached file.
 
After you done the transfer, kindly provide me the payment voucher and your passport, if paid from company bank account, please provide the copy of your business license.

best regards.
Baikal miner


Our cutting-edge technology creates a brighter future for you!
Web: www.baikalminer.com 丨 Skype: baikalminer
Email:baikal@baikalminer.com   丨 Facebook: @baikalminer.offical


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maleemk on July 08, 2017, 08:01:28 PM
AND THIS EMAIL I HAVE RECEIVED ABOUT 15  HOURS AGO.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maleemk on July 08, 2017, 08:02:52 PM
DURING MY SKYPE CONVERSATION THEY DID MENTION THE FOLLOWING

don't tell other about this machine before we release it

 


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: pikachuy on July 09, 2017, 09:47:23 AM
DURING MY SKYPE CONVERSATION THEY DID MENTION THE FOLLOWING

don't tell other about this machine before we release it

 

Lol, so would that mean your order is only a pre-order?

And for a purchase of 10, they didn't cut you any slack at all, you got charged full price, lol.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: buggy166 on July 09, 2017, 10:15:02 AM
The price is nuts. If ya'll willing to pay $70000 for 10gh/s i can sell you one of my ibelink pre orders instead at double what i paid and you'll at least have a realistic ROI in 2-3 months time while being 1/3rd the cost of these baikals.




Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maleemk on July 09, 2017, 05:30:37 PM
First of all it's not a pre-order they will ship in 1 week.
Secondly, it will be 20 GHz for 10 Of these.
I am not buying at this price for sure. My mantra is wait and see.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maleemk on July 09, 2017, 05:32:41 PM
The price is nuts. If ya'll willing to pay $70000 for 10gh/s i can sell you one of my ibelink pre orders instead at double what i paid and you'll at least have a realistic ROI in 2-3 months time while being 1/3rd the cost of these baikals.



We will see your ibelink when it will be out in the day light and it's ROI.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maleemk on July 09, 2017, 05:34:26 PM
DURING MY SKYPE CONVERSATION THEY DID MENTION THE FOLLOWING

don't tell other about this machine before we release it

 

Lol, so would that mean your order is only a pre-order?

And for a purchase of 10, they didn't cut you any slack at all, you got charged full price, lol.
Yup they they have a complete faith on their product that it will sold out like a hot cake. LOL


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: igotek on July 09, 2017, 08:09:21 PM
Please respect their hard work. It is not easy to make the ASIC devices.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: pikachuy on July 10, 2017, 07:08:21 AM
First of all it's not a pre-order they will ship in 1 week.
Secondly, it will be 20 GHz for 10 Of these.
I am not buying at this price for sure. My mantra is wait and see.

Then that means they are currently mining on them right now for sure if they can deliver in a week after payment.

Wonder why they just don't announce it officially since they are willing to sell and deliver in a week already to people.


On a side note:

Too bad it couldn't be at the same hash per dollar at least.

The quad cube was $2.66 per 1MH/s at 1200 MH/s = $3192

The new giant: $2.66 per 1MH/s at 2000MH/s = $5320

Now that would sound more reasonable, or even just $6000. But at $7000, makes me want to wait for an official Ibelink update since it's just around the corner supposedly (Original group buy said "shipping before 31st July".)


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maleemk on July 10, 2017, 07:15:33 AM
First of all it's not a pre-order they will ship in 1 week.
Secondly, it will be 20 GHz for 10 Of these.
I am not buying at this price for sure. My mantra is wait and see.

Then that means they are currently mining on them right now for sure if they can deliver in a week after payment.

Wonder why they just don't announce it officially since they are willing to sell and deliver in a week already to people.


On a side note:

Too bad it couldn't be at the same hash per dollar at least.

The quad cube was $2.66 per 1MH/s at 1200 MH/s = $3192

The new giant: $2.66 per 1MH/s at 2000MH/s = $5320

Now that would sound more reasonable, or even just $6000. But at $7000, makes me want to wait for an official Ibelink update since it's just around the corner supposedly (Original group buy said "shipping before 31st July".)

I am with you in this waiting game.
WAIT AND WATCH


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: thesavoyard on July 10, 2017, 08:59:51 AM
Please respect their hard work. It is not easy to make the ASIC devices.

And keep them monopolized in China? Screw their hard work, I hope they fail.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: JPP1972 on July 10, 2017, 10:48:19 AM
Please respect their hard work. It is not easy to make the ASIC devices.

And keep them monopolized in China? Screw their hard work, I hope they fail.

Hard work :  YES...

Respect for the client : NO!!

this night i send a mail for purchase one baikal 2000 Mh/s

They respond:

Hi,
Thank you for your support on Baikal.
I am sorry to let you know that all mode of miner are out of stock, so far, we are still unsure when next batch will be available. Please pay some attention on our website announcement, we will made our announcement there as soon as miner is available.
you can follow us on facebook(find from our signature below) and set a new post notification, so you don’t need to check out oftenly.
Have a good day.
Best regards.

Baikal miner

I prefer that they respond for example... we dont want to sell to European people, we sell only to chinese guy... we sell only for companies..... we sell only if you buy 10 baikal quad....
I want sinceritry...... only this....

I think that Bitmain is THE BEST for For respecting the customer , you say immidiately what is the price, you pay immidiately,  you say before purchase when the product will be delivered.....

Baikal have good product but this system is the beginning of their end.

I'm angry.

Sorry for my english....




Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: robeth on July 10, 2017, 11:31:16 AM
Maybe the stonya is limited ,,
Or he just sells for certain people.
Because the manufacture is not easy


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: buggy166 on July 10, 2017, 01:12:08 PM
Please respect their hard work. It is not easy to make the ASIC devices.

And keep them monopolized in China? Screw their hard work, I hope they fail.

Hard work :  YES...

Respect for the client : NO!!

this night i send a mail for purchase one baikal 2000 Mh/s

They respond:

Hi,
Thank you for your support on Baikal.
I am sorry to let you know that all mode of miner are out of stock, so far, we are still unsure when next batch will be available. Please pay some attention on our website announcement, we will made our announcement there as soon as miner is available.
you can follow us on facebook(find from our signature below) and set a new post notification, so you don’t need to check out oftenly.
Have a good day.
Best regards.

Baikal miner

I prefer that they respond for example... we dont want to sell to European people, we sell only to chinese guy... we sell only for companies..... we sell only if you buy 10 baikal quad....
I want sinceritry...... only this....

I think that Bitmain is THE BEST for For respecting the customer , you say immidiately what is the price, you pay immidiately,  you say before purchase when the product will be delivered.....

Baikal have good product but this system is the beginning of their end.

I'm angry.

Sorry for my english....




I dont know anyone from BAIKAL but i assure you all my white non chinese non asian friends had no problem purchasing anything from them, when the products were available.

Money doesnt recognize race, of that, I can assure you.

As for their email to you, it seemed very polite. It is what it is, for now.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: buggy166 on July 10, 2017, 01:14:37 PM
Please respect their hard work. It is not easy to make the ASIC devices.

Their hard work gets respected every time someone buys one of their machines. Not to mention, respect, or how hard it is to make an ASIC, is not what was being talked about by others on here. It was the current price vs previous price of their models.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 10, 2017, 01:29:30 PM
For me it is a simple math problem... To buy the equivalent in hash to 1 ibelink you would have to buy 5, 7000 x 5 = 35,000usd.  Let me think real hard about that... ummm, now add the efficiency difference.  The iBelink is like 760 watts if the early peek at them is right.   This isn't going to make any financial sense.  And worse yet I suspect the initial price of the iBelink is going to be crazy expensive if you can even get one which will still put it out of reach for small poor miners like myself.

It is all adding up to the fact I am a poor guy and won't have the funds to buy any of these it looks like.   Very frustrating.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Truthchanter on July 10, 2017, 08:20:30 PM
Let's see if the ibelinks come out on time and as advertised


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: maleemk on July 11, 2017, 04:26:58 AM
Let's see if the ibelinks come out on time and as advertised
Yes, but I do have my doubts.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: hevi on July 12, 2017, 06:29:33 AM
Hi,

If anyone need baikal A2000, 2000MH product.

I can sell 10K usd pcs. (Paying BTC = Poloniex Rates)

Free Shipping 5 days.
(Product will be shipping China)

Contact : PM   or   www.minermarkettr.com

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Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: pikachuy on July 12, 2017, 08:31:24 AM
Hi,

If anyone need baikal A2000, 2000MH product.

I can sell 9.5K usd pcs. (Paying BTC = Poloniex Rates)

Free Shipping 5 days.
(Product will be shipping China)

Contact : PM   or   www.minermarkettr.com

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That seems fishy, why does your photo show x13, x14, and x15 lower hashrate then the others? All past baikal miners were the same hashrate on all algo's...


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: hevi on July 12, 2017, 08:42:32 AM


That seems fishy, why does your photo show x13, x14, and x15 lower hashrate then the others? All past baikal miners were the same hashrate on all algo's...

Hi,

That is baikal technical specification.

We dont have power to change hash rates  :)



Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Searing on July 12, 2017, 11:05:55 AM


That seems fishy, why does your photo show x13, x14, and x15 lower hashrate then the others? All past baikal miners were the same hashrate on all algo's...

Hi,

That is baikal technical specification.

We dont have power to change hash rates  :)



I will ask the first obvious question....do you take escrow and if so by whom on the forum here?

(let the arrows fly) :)



Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: hevi on July 12, 2017, 12:03:24 PM


That seems fishy, why does your photo show x13, x14, and x15 lower hashrate then the others? All past baikal miners were the same hashrate on all algo's...

Hi,

That is baikal technical specification.

We dont have power to change hash rates  :)



I will ask the first obvious question....do you take escrow and if so by whom on the forum here?

(let the arrows fly) :)




Hi,

Yes we can use Escrow. I am not use it before but we can use most trusted escrow in forum.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0

The Big 3: Monbux, Tomatocage, OgNasty

We can ask them. If ok for you.


And lets continue here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2016518.0
   


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Searing on July 12, 2017, 01:16:31 PM


That seems fishy, why does your photo show x13, x14, and x15 lower hashrate then the others? All past baikal miners were the same hashrate on all algo's...

Hi,

That is baikal technical specification.

We dont have power to change hash rates  :)



I will ask the first obvious question....do you take escrow and if so by whom on the forum here?

(let the arrows fly) :)




Hi,

Yes we can use Escrow. I am not use it before but we can use most trusted escrow in forum.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0

The Big 3: Monbux, Tomatocage, OgNasty

We can ask them. If ok for you.


And lets continue here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2016518.0
   

Well, good to know. I myself am not interested at the prices quoted. Sent you a pm.

good luck on your escrow/sale thou

brad


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Ayers on July 12, 2017, 01:24:39 PM
is this a new product of baikal with the same speed as two a900 giant or more? because i can't find it on their website? maybe unvailable or only on preorder? and how to order this one? can someone enlighten me thanks


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: buggy166 on July 12, 2017, 01:35:40 PM
is this a new product of baikal with the same speed as two a900 giant or more? because i can't find it on their website? maybe unvailable or only on preorder? and how to order this one? can someone enlighten me thanks

The only people who seem to have them are in China. Probably a small circuit of local buyers.

In any case, 2000Mh/s only mines around $1000 worth per month.

At an original price of $7000, its already ridiculous with a ROI of 7+ months.

For $10000 it'll take over a year to ROI, as difficulty will double a couple times more by then.

They'll be lucky to sell these to people for anything above $3000-$4000 at today's hash rates.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Ayers on July 12, 2017, 03:09:07 PM
is this a new product of baikal with the same speed as two a900 giant or more? because i can't find it on their website? maybe unvailable or only on preorder? and how to order this one? can someone enlighten me thanks

The only people who seem to have them are in China. Probably a small circuit of local buyers.

In any case, 2000Mh/s only mines around $1000 worth per month.

At an original price of $7000, its already ridiculous with a ROI of 7+ months.

For $10000 it'll take over a year to ROI, as difficulty will double a couple times more by then.

They'll be lucky to sell these to people for anything above $3000-$4000 at today's hash rates.

7 months is not that bad with current profit, altcoin also are bad now you need 7 months there to roi, like with this asic, i would buy if available and sell after 2-3 months, and i would get everything back plus a bonus


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: buggy166 on July 12, 2017, 03:23:08 PM
is this a new product of baikal with the same speed as two a900 giant or more? because i can't find it on their website? maybe unvailable or only on preorder? and how to order this one? can someone enlighten me thanks

The only people who seem to have them are in China. Probably a small circuit of local buyers.

In any case, 2000Mh/s only mines around $1000 worth per month.

At an original price of $7000, its already ridiculous with a ROI of 7+ months.

For $10000 it'll take over a year to ROI, as difficulty will double a couple times more by then.

They'll be lucky to sell these to people for anything above $3000-$4000 at today's hash rates.

7 months is not that bad with current profit, altcoin also are bad now you need 7 months there to roi, like with this asic, i would buy if available and sell after 2-3 months, and i would get everything back plus a bonus

7 months isnt that bad with current profit, except it wont be current profit for 7 months.

Hash difficulty has doubled in what, 2+ months since Baikal's cubes got delivered in May?

There's another 5 months in the year, at that rate, it will double difficulty a couple of more times this year.

That spells out a $250/month return from this thing by the time January rolls in.

You think you'll sell it for 10 grand again in October/November? I dont know about that.

The only thing that can make this machine worth its price is DASH nearly doubling in value by the end of the year. (which no one has a magic 8 ball for).







Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: allnewbie on July 14, 2017, 04:00:50 AM
is this baikal facebook?
https://www.facebook.com/baikalminer.offical/

I saw Giant + on there.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: shaninium on July 14, 2017, 04:46:39 AM
If they can sell these for 1100$ then they can compete with ibelink in price per hash.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: BTDS on July 14, 2017, 05:37:39 AM



https://asicminermarket.com/product/baikal-dash-miner-a2000-giant/

 :)


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: shaninium on July 14, 2017, 06:57:14 AM
Asicminermarket havent got a good reputation buyers beware..


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: pikachuy on July 14, 2017, 07:57:33 AM
Man, wish they would of restock the quad cubes. 2 Quad cubes = higher hash rate and cheaper price.

Edit: Quad cubes are ALOTTTT quieter too.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: not.you on July 14, 2017, 03:08:28 PM
Finally available from the source at $7k: http://www.baikalminer.com/product06.php

I might consider it at a little less than half that price but no way I am even vaguely interested at 7k.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: NoxX on July 14, 2017, 03:21:07 PM
Looking at the pictures... it looks like they slapped together 8 CUBES and underclocked them a bit.

8 x $800, add some premium for additional engineering required, done, $7k.

EDIT: I agree, price is much too high, especially considering how much profitability for the CUBEs tanked recently. On Nicehash I am now getting half of what I got two weeks ago.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Longsnowsm on July 14, 2017, 06:48:00 PM
No chance I will spend 7k for a 2gh miner.  The iBelink is far more efficient, much higher hash rate for less money.  Baikal has missed the mark completely here. 


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: igotek on July 14, 2017, 07:44:30 PM
Baikal miners are ready to use. iBelink ? Huh. Wait for the iBelink.

Buy Baikal miner and mine.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: wolf_miner on July 14, 2017, 08:02:41 PM
Hi, Baikal miner is good miner and work fine, but the problem is that they have increased the price for Mhs at every product they have released: Mini was at $2.00/Mhs Giant+ is $3.50/Mhs but they use the same ASIC chip ad architectures.
I love Baikal miner, but ROI at $3.50/Mhs is at 8 months at actual DIFF  and for $7000 + shipping and customs fee is more longer, so the miner lost every appeals.

W_M


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: mark.goodbye on July 14, 2017, 08:52:54 PM
Hi, Baikal miner is good miner and work fine, but the problem is that they have increased the price for Mhs at every product they have released: Mini was at $2.00/Mhs Giant+ is $3.50/Mhs but they use the same ASIC chip ad architectures.
I love Baikal miner, but ROI at $3.50/Mhs is at 8 months at actual DIFF  and for $7000 + shipping and customs fee is more longer, so the miner lost every appeals.

W_M

I must agree, I have made  calculations and for this price baikal is useless


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Hawker on July 14, 2017, 09:01:04 PM
Baikal miners are ready to use. But there is no place I can buy Baikalminer. Is there anyone who can sell Baikalminer? I can give more money.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: wolf_miner on July 14, 2017, 09:04:22 PM
Now you can buy GIANT+ 2000Ghs directly from Baikal for $7000.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: NoxX on July 14, 2017, 09:04:54 PM
Baikal miners are ready to use. But there is no place I can buy Baikalminer. Is there anyone who can sell Baikalminer? I can give more money.

Why not go to the official website?

http://www.baikalminer.com/product06.php

Miners on sale there, and at this price I doubt they will sell out soon...


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: noooze on July 14, 2017, 09:23:31 PM
It's a crazy price!

Talked to a buddy of mine, who loves to program chips. He said that if he had the time, we could probably replicate what they did with the cube and have it made for about 80 dollars pr machine. Too bad I don't have the money to hire him a few months :P

I knew I should have focused on something else than marketing when studying. He is an engineer who designs the chips in hearing aids.

7000 dollars for a machine like that  - it seems like they want us to pay for their own mining operation.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: bclcjunkie on July 15, 2017, 06:23:18 AM
Well that happened before. ibelink was playing nice by releasing first batch asic in slow pace to allow its customer to roi. but baikal came and flooded the market, all the noobs that were buying their overpriced gear recently are going to get rude shock when difficulty goes 3x by end of august. its payback time i hope ibelink buries baikal for good.

It's a crazy price!

Talked to a buddy of mine, who loves to program chips. He said that if he had the time, we could probably replicate what they did with the cube and have it made for about 80 dollars pr machine. Too bad I don't have the money to hire him a few months :P

I knew I should have focused on something else than marketing when studying. He is an engineer who designs the chips in hearing aids.

7000 dollars for a machine like that  - it seems like they want us to pay for their own mining operation.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Marvell1 on July 15, 2017, 07:12:37 AM
No chance I will spend 7k for a 2gh miner.  The iBelink is far more efficient, much higher hash rate for less money.  Baikal has missed the mark completely here. 
baikal is too expensive , but ibelink could be vaporware as well
risk on both is about the same imo

id rather buy and l3


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: NoxX on July 15, 2017, 08:44:57 AM
Yeah, the profitability of the CUBEs is already very low if you don't have free electricity. Very likely the GIANT+ will never ROI.

I guess you can always start mining some smaller coins and hope they blow up if you feel like gambling...


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Searing on July 15, 2017, 08:55:12 AM
Yeah, the profitability of the CUBEs is already very low if you don't have free electricity. Very likely the GIANT+ will never ROI.

I guess you can always start mining some smaller coins and hope they blow up if you feel like gambling...


Yeah, the catch is it takes 3 giant+'s at 2K each = 6,000 usd to mine 1/2 of what they are charging for the Ibelink 10gh version. (Sold out)

On the other hand, you pay almost 2x as much on the above Baikal 2000 to get the equivalent  hash rate for 6,000 usd. So that deal sucks.



This may not really matter if you are outside of China, it seems on ordering any of these products.......


On the other hand, having tried to get Baikal miners and at least tried the same on Ibelink....it is impossible if you are in the USA

(using 100mh Univ bandwidth) to get either it seems.....completely and utterly locked out of the ibelink site due to load....so no joy. :(


So hell, unless I find someone running a data hall in China on bitcointalk here...ain't gonna get any more X11 miners, no matter what it seems.

Not at least at the current methods that they push units out. NO JOY for such in the USA it seems...likey same for Europe as well.

I also can see the Baikal units going to x13 and x15...when Ibelink slams them on x11 difficulty pump, .however I was told it was a fairly easy firmware fix..so I would guess Ibelink units in a month or so will be able to do x13 and x15 protocols as well..thus with difficulty rise on x11 .and then x13 and x15....my Baikal (it did roi) 300mh cube shall be 'paperweight'.  A cute paperweight ......but a paperweight none the less :(

If you can never get the product due circumstances out of your control (bandwidth and wrong time zone as an example) ..no use crying

over 'spilled asic machines' ....just gonna have to move on :(

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder87/61724087.jpg









Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: NoxX on July 15, 2017, 09:08:53 AM
Yeah, the profitability of the CUBEs is already very low if you don't have free electricity. Very likely the GIANT+ will never ROI.

I guess you can always start mining some smaller coins and hope they blow up if you feel like gambling...


Yeah, the catch is it takes 3 giant+'s at 2K each = 6,000 usd to mine 1/2 of what they are charging for the Ibelink 10gh version. (Sold out)

On the other hand, you pay almost 2x as much on the above Baikal 2000 to get the equivalent  hash rate for 6,000 usd. So that deal sucks.



This may not really matter if you are outside of China, it seems on ordering any of these products.......


On the other hand, having tried to get Baikal miners and at least tried the same on Ibelink....it is impossible if you are in the USA

(using 100mh Univ bandwidth) to get either it seems.....completely and utterly locked out of the ibelink site due to load....so no joy. :(


So hell, unless I find someone running a data hall in China on bitcointalk here...ain't gonna get any more X11 miners, no matter what it seems.

Not at least at the current methods that they push units out. NO JOY for such in the USA it seems...likey same for Europe as well.

I also can see the Baikal units going to x13 and x15...when Ibelink slams them on x11 difficulty pump, .however I was told it was a fairly easy firmware fix..so I would guess Ibelink units in a month or so will be able to do x13 and x15 protocols as well..thus with difficulty rise on x11 .and then x13 and x15....my Baikal (it did roi) 300mh cube shall be 'paperweight'.  A cute paperweight ......but a paperweight none the less :(

If you can never get the product due circumstances out of your control (bandwidth and wrong time zone as an example) ..no use crying

over 'spilled asic machines' ....just gonna have to move on :(

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder87/61724087.jpg



I guess one of the good things about the CUBEs (and from the looks of it the GIANT+ as well) is they were very suited for home mining.

The Ibelink looks like it has what, 6, 7 small fans? That thing is going to sound like a jet engine...


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: JPP1972 on July 15, 2017, 09:35:23 AM
If you convert their site in chinese the New giant don't appear, the cube is in stock the quad is in stock....

With this price Baikal says to all non chinese people......  We dont want to sell in the world! Don't send mail Don't ask quotation all day!!!!

Bye!!!


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: NoxX on July 15, 2017, 10:38:15 AM
If you convert their site in chinese the New giant don't appear, the cube is in stock the quad is in stock....

With this price Baikal says to all non chinese people......  We dont want to sell in the world! Don't send mail Don't ask quotation all day!!!!

Bye!!!


Huh, that is very interesting. The products with the low $ / MHash are Chinese only, and the new lower value is non-China only. Pretty scummy...


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: warllock on July 16, 2017, 09:44:54 AM
If anyone is interested of Baikal Cube - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2023888.0


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: allnewbie on July 16, 2017, 11:07:16 AM
If you convert their site in chinese the New giant don't appear, the cube is in stock the quad is in stock....

With this price Baikal says to all non chinese people......  We dont want to sell in the world! Don't send mail Don't ask quotation all day!!!!

Bye!!!


I just checked this questions, they response no Cube and no quad-cube. the difference on Chinese site and English site is an error. they said will update it soon.



Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: percy_tc on July 16, 2017, 01:13:06 PM
how the heck u able to add to cart? for me it does  not work.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: bigassboy on July 17, 2017, 12:55:08 AM
how the heck u able to add to cart? for me it does  not work.
You can't, You will need to contact them directly thru skype or email to purchase.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Searing on July 17, 2017, 01:53:47 AM
how the heck u able to add to cart? for me it does  not work.
You can't, You will need to contact them directly thru skype or email to purchase.


then they tell you 7K for 2,000mh (vs 6k for 10.5gh on ibelink) and you disconnect from skype :)



Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Marvell1 on July 17, 2017, 02:13:09 AM
how the heck u able to add to cart? for me it does  not work.
You can't, You will need to contact them directly thru skype or email to purchase.


then they tell you 7K for 2,000mh (vs 6k for 10.5gh on ibelink) and you disconnect from skype :)


lol i told them id buy 2 for 4k each they disconected LOOL


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: bigassboy on July 17, 2017, 02:20:21 AM
how the heck u able to add to cart? for me it does  not work.
You can't, You will need to contact them directly thru skype or email to purchase.


then they tell you 7K for 2,000mh (vs 6k for 10.5gh on ibelink) and you disconnect from skype :)


LOL!! That is so correct!!


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Liquid71 on July 17, 2017, 03:28:08 AM
DASH should change their name for a third time and re brand to china coin since it's controlled by chinese miners  :D


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: VoskCoin on July 17, 2017, 04:56:55 AM
Baikal and ibelink never gave the slightest shit about me and my attempts to order, so I gave up on that route and ordered l3+ / GPU

The timing of their miners show

They only dump miners when profits go down
Points to confirm impending ibelink miners and they want to offload $$$$$ before ibelink miner makes them a classic

^^ those two just my theory


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: baskanx on August 13, 2017, 08:50:17 PM
baikal new price 2900 usd +free shipping


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Longsnowsm on August 13, 2017, 09:04:26 PM
baikal new price 2900 usd +free shipping

If they will change that 2 to a 1 they might be able to sell a few of these.  Good luck to anyone spending their money on these.  X11 on this miner will be dead by October at the latest.  Unless the other coins it can mine some how hold up in value this is a hard sell for this miner. 


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Steven3iii on August 13, 2017, 09:44:34 PM
ow
DASH should change their name for a third time and re brand to china coin since it's controlled by chinese miners  :D

I don't think that they would like to hear that at DASH. They think that it is all beautiful and decentralised. X11 Seems to be a Russo-Chinese thing now for mining.

I bought two of these Baikals and they arrived two weeks ago. They are a neat and reliable unit. Relatively quiet. :)


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: NoxX on August 14, 2017, 08:32:37 AM
ow
DASH should change their name for a third time and re brand to china coin since it's controlled by chinese miners  :D

I don't think that they would like to hear that at DASH. They think that it is all beautiful and decentralised. X11 Seems to be a Russo-Chinese thing now for mining.

I bought two of these Baikals and they arrived two weeks ago. They are a neat and reliable unit. Relatively quiet. :)

Yeah, the CUBE is also a neat piece of tech, depending on the algo and ambient temp you can set the fan to 30-40% and it is virtually quiet. Compared to other ASICs, 80W is also amazing. Too bad Baikal got greedy...  :-\


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: wolf_miner on August 14, 2017, 11:14:22 AM
news about the price of GIANT+?


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: FUKT on August 14, 2017, 04:14:37 PM
baikal new price 2900 usd +free shipping
Taking into consideration the D3, they should sell 10 units for that price - just to have a chance to become competitive now.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: molitar on August 16, 2017, 07:16:49 AM
I lost confidence in this company.. now profit is gone they come begging to sell at a ridiculous cost.

They treated everyone like dirt. Would not allow any pre-orders. When the coin went up they stopped selling the product altogether. Than after Bitmain and others come out with miners they ask a ridiculous price for the miner.  After all the treatment and lies and scams.. I really would not be surprised if they were doing the scamming themselves so they could make more money by selling nothing!

Why else would they keep orders on Skype where there was at least a dozen con artists?  Because they were the con artists and could claim you were scammed sorry next..


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: leecher2k16 on September 01, 2017, 05:44:35 PM
hi, does anyone know if is possible to split the BKLS (1000 MH/s per Board)? So if BKLS 1 can mine 1000 MH/s in Dash Pool and BKLS2 can mine Qubit?



Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: Longsnowsm on September 01, 2017, 05:58:36 PM
hi, does anyone know if is possible to split the BKLS (1000 MH/s per Board)? So if BKLS 1 can mine 1000 MH/s in Dash Pool and BKLS2 can mine Qubit?



You could probably do it if you have 2 controllers.  I haven't seen the Giant+ in person, but I think it could be done with the previous Giant if you had the controllers to run it that way.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: poolrunner on September 21, 2017, 07:33:18 PM
I just got a 2000 for $4800 and have it mining. It is cool to see the alto list catch the best crypto group, like x11-15 or the Quarks, qubits.
I have all the extranonces checked and am in the process of getting this mining to speed up.
I have it hooked to Zpool at the moment. I had to take it off line for a 9 hours period. I noticed when I put it back online the zpool balances dropped.
Is this because the pool was unpaid so I forfeited the ongoing unpaid?
I would like to know if there are any 2000 miners who know a better set of specs to run this unit at.

I also got a Antminer S9 for $4800. As you can tell I am hedging my crypto involvement. And yes the BTC will drop. Here is the thing: as the btc drops this will make it unfavorable against a large blockchain. I am betting that somebody will come up with flash updates to the orange pi for increasing the pool search. Somebody is always waiting to hack for the best and worst. For all you oldheads, remember when the IBM PC sales died off and IBM got out of the PC business? That is because the market opened up to other manufacturers. Well we are seeing that again. I equate the Antminers to the DEC PDP 11 series of computers and the worldwide proliferation of Unix. See where this is going?

And now the coup de grace: The silicon wafer manufs are scrambling to get graphene onto multilayer wafers. Two young guys already found how to deposition graphene onto a viscous layer of oil and other organic friendly fluids to get the graphene to float. Then they applied a light electric current to get the miniscule plates to align. Viola! This means they can print patterns. They did it with out expensive university equipment or hyperbaric/vacuum chambers. It was done on a bench top in open air. The countries that have wafer manufs have been trying to control the pollution but gave up. i.e. China air quality. We are talking cyanide, arsenic, lead, copper oxide, sulfuric and hydrochloric acid wastes. Most wafer companies are Asiatic and are huge. They will not take this bitcoin drop sitting down with such a huge available infrastructure just waiting to become clean. The industry tried to embrace eight inch wafers from the current 4 inch but the investment was too huge for many. This would have quadrupled the output and reduced the pollution. The companies that couldn't make the change just upped the production and overcame the problems with greater production and problem oversight denial. Those countries had to allow this to sustain their investment in wafer production. The failure model is the same as the auto industry. But things change and as original asset ownership switches from loss leaders to repurposing we, the consumers see change and a better market place. Just you wait and see. The Dbase programmers of the eighties made a killing on just the software. The size of the customer's computing platform didn't matter because the customers needed data processing in their business face.

This is a great upstart adventure.
Better is a little with righteousness than great revenues with injustice.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: poolrunner on September 29, 2017, 05:10:09 PM
I believe Baikal is just a bunch of engineers with no front office. It happens. The type of customer communications points to this business model.


Title: Re: BAIKAL asic mine 2000MH/s
Post by: igotek on October 06, 2017, 05:19:02 PM
hi, does anyone know if is possible to split the BKLS (1000 MH/s per Board)? So if BKLS 1 can mine 1000 MH/s in Dash Pool and BKLS2 can mine Qubit?



You could probably do it if you have 2 controllers.  I haven't seen the Giant+ in person, but I think it could be done with the previous Giant if you had the controllers to run it that way.


Yes it is possible if you have two orange pi.