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Title: hardware wallets
Post by: nakisama on June 28, 2017, 04:07:39 AM
How to get one?

All seem to be out of stock !!!


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on June 28, 2017, 04:47:44 AM
? Trezor is still showing in stock at https://shop.trezor.io/ if you want it shipped in three days you have to pay a premium though


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: xskl0 on June 28, 2017, 06:06:47 AM
How to get one?

All seem to be out of stock !!!
Ledger Nano S works pretty well


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: vitaliikho on June 28, 2017, 06:16:04 AM
https://www.ledgerwallet.com (https://www.ledgerwallet.com) you can buy it here


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: mocacinno on June 28, 2017, 06:22:03 AM
https://www.ledgerwallet.com (https://www.ledgerwallet.com) you can buy it here

quote from their shopping cart:

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I understand that due to a very high level of demand, my order will not be shipped before: September 4, 2017

I assume this was exactly the problem the OP was facing...

@OP: most hardware wallets producers still seem to have some stock, but ledger does indeed seem to have run out... I tried several retailers from https://www.ledgerwallet.com/retailers, but it seems none have their wallet available.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 28, 2017, 06:37:49 AM
How to get one?

All seem to be out of stock !!!
You can buy a trezor on there shop and they have a lot of stock for sure but the only disadvantage of having a trezor wallet compare to other hardware wallet is, they don't support a lot of coins and just a few selected coin which is a downside for me because i am expecting a lot of coin to be supported because hardware wallet is the best type of wallet to store coins so they need to support a lot of coins from the market.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: xFiber on June 28, 2017, 06:48:11 AM
Yea you're right. A lot of wallets seem to be sold out due to huuuuge demand. I would just wait it out man and make sure you buy a decent hardware wallet like keepkey when it's back in stock.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: pinkflower on June 28, 2017, 07:04:00 AM
How to get one?

All seem to be out of stock !!!

Trezor are in stock. But if you want my advice, I would say buying one can wait. I bought one that arrived last week and it made me feel like it was a wasted purchase. I store my seeds and private keys well enough for me not to need a hardware wallet.

My overpriced Trezor is just one more seed to back up and store.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: nakisama on June 28, 2017, 05:03:28 PM
was more keen to get a keepkey but last month they told me to wait for their email letting me they have stock back again, so far nothing

will eventually buy a trezor but yes, being limited to the number of coins supported is a minus


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: zedsacs on June 28, 2017, 06:06:05 PM
It's really good sir if you'll do this, I mean having a cold wallet rather than storing it into online wallet that you didn't know what would happen, but yeah. I know there are available in ebay, just try to search it sir.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: ranreichman on June 28, 2017, 06:21:28 PM
How to get one?

All seem to be out of stock !!!

Trezor are in stock. But if you want my advice, I would say buying one can wait. I bought one that arrived last week and it made me feel like it was a wasted purchase. I store my seeds and private keys well enough for me not to need a hardware wallet.

My overpriced Trezor is just one more seed to back up and store.
I agree with this. If you're concerned with security you can create a paper wallet, which is 100% secure. The only use case for a HW wallet is for a large account that you're constantly withdrawing from, which for most people isn't the case. For 100s or 1000s of $ an iPhone app wallet is good enough.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: BillyBobZorton on June 28, 2017, 06:33:53 PM
How to get one?

All seem to be out of stock !!!

Trezor are in stock. But if you want my advice, I would say buying one can wait. I bought one that arrived last week and it made me feel like it was a wasted purchase. I store my seeds and private keys well enough for me not to need a hardware wallet.

My overpriced Trezor is just one more seed to back up and store.
I agree with this. If you're concerned with security you can create a paper wallet, which is 100% secure. The only use case for a HW wallet is for a large account that you're constantly withdrawing from, which for most people isn't the case. For 100s or 1000s of $ an iPhone app wallet is good enough.

You can always get an USB stick and just put your keys on there, be it a paper wallet image, or a wallet.dat bitcoin core wallet, or whatever else, just be sure to encrypt the thing.

I guess the special appeal with hardware wallets is that they isolate the device from the OS so even if the OS is infected, nothing happens.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: maokoto on June 28, 2017, 07:19:06 PM
I was just going to ask about the advantages, and last reply worked for me  ;D I guess you also save space vs. having all the blockchain in the HD right?

Thanks.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: Minecache on June 28, 2017, 09:02:51 PM
Yea you're right. A lot of wallets seem to be sold out due to huuuuge demand. I would just wait it out man and make sure you buy a decent hardware wallet like keepkey when it's back in stock.
Keepkey can be vulnerable to attack from what I gather.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: Minecache on June 28, 2017, 09:04:39 PM
How to get one?

All seem to be out of stock !!!

Trezor are in stock. But if you want my advice, I would say buying one can wait. I bought one that arrived last week and it made me feel like it was a wasted purchase. I store my seeds and private keys well enough for me not to need a hardware wallet.

My overpriced Trezor is just one more seed to back up and store.
I agree with this. If you're concerned with security you can create a paper wallet, which is 100% secure. The only use case for a HW wallet is for a large account that you're constantly withdrawing from, which for most people isn't the case. For 100s or 1000s of $ an iPhone app wallet is good enough.

You can always get an USB stick and just put your keys on there, be it a paper wallet image, or a wallet.dat bitcoin core wallet, or whatever else, just be sure to encrypt the thing.

I guess the special appeal with hardware wallets is that they isolate the device from the OS so even if the OS is infected, nothing happens.
USBs can contain malicious software. I wouldn't keep any type of wallet on one.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: European Central Bank on June 28, 2017, 10:06:49 PM
https://swissbankinyourpocket.com/product/swiss-bank-in-your-pocket/

anyone heard of this? it's the first time i've seen or heard of it.

i assume there are gonna be more hardware wallet companies popping up. i wonder whether there'll be some questionable ones.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: GreenBits on June 29, 2017, 12:32:13 AM
was more keen to get a keepkey but last month they told me to wait for their email letting me they have stock back again, so far nothing

will eventually buy a trezor but yes, being limited to the number of coins supported is a minus

I was lucky to grab a KK off of Amazon a while back before they became like unicorns ;) it's fuckin great, Im still running the beta Chrome extension that gives you multiple cointypes and ShapeShift™ integrated (can't help it, I'm on a phone and it just looks so damned official). And if I break it, meh, I'll buy another and use the key phrase to restore. If I can buy one now, LOL.

Best purchase ever. But I would kill for it to have buttons (numerical) and the shifting pin thing (it's hard for me to explain) is an absolute pain if you unplug the device frequently.

Like, why do I keep hearing hardware wallets are so hard to find? Is the demand really that bigger than the supply, or are they simply not making enough of these?


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: gentlemand on June 29, 2017, 12:38:09 AM
Like, why do I keep hearing hardware wallets are so hard to find? Is the demand really that bigger than the supply, or are they simply not making enough of these?

The shipping dates seem to be getting longer and longer and the prices of available units seem to be rising.

I was checking the price of Ledger Nano S's on Ebay. In March they were selling for £60 ish. Some are now going for over £200.

The pesky demand isn't letting up.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: Minecache on June 29, 2017, 12:55:30 AM
was more keen to get a keepkey but last month they told me to wait for their email letting me they have stock back again, so far nothing

will eventually buy a trezor but yes, being limited to the number of coins supported is a minus

I was lucky to grab a KK off of Amazon a while back before they became like unicorns ;) it's fuckin great, Im still running the beta Chrome extension that gives you multiple cointypes and ShapeShift™ integrated (can't help it, I'm on a phone and it just looks so damned official). And if I break it, meh, I'll buy another and use the key phrase to restore. If I can buy one now, LOL.

Best purchase ever. But I would kill for it to have buttons (numerical) and the shifting pin thing (it's hard for me to explain) is an absolute pain if you unplug the device frequently.

Like, why do I keep hearing hardware wallets are so hard to find? Is the demand really that bigger than the supply, or are they simply not making enough of these?
The lack of hard buttons are the keys to malicious software being able to steal your funds on the keepkey. AVOID.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: bitserve on June 29, 2017, 02:06:06 AM
https://swissbankinyourpocket.com/product/swiss-bank-in-your-pocket/

anyone heard of this? it's the first time i've seen or heard of it.

i assume there are gonna be more hardware wallet companies popping up. i wonder whether there'll be some questionable ones.

What a bunch of rabbish in that website. That's NOT a hardware wallet by any means. Buyers beware, and stick with the popular Ledger/Trezor (Maybe Keepkey too).


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: pinkflower on June 29, 2017, 07:59:01 AM
How to get one?

All seem to be out of stock !!!

Trezor are in stock. But if you want my advice, I would say buying one can wait. I bought one that arrived last week and it made me feel like it was a wasted purchase. I store my seeds and private keys well enough for me not to need a hardware wallet.

My overpriced Trezor is just one more seed to back up and store.
I agree with this. If you're concerned with security you can create a paper wallet, which is 100% secure. The only use case for a HW wallet is for a large account that you're constantly withdrawing from, which for most people isn't the case. For 100s or 1000s of $ an iPhone app wallet is good enough.

You can always get an USB stick and just put your keys on there, be it a paper wallet image, or a wallet.dat bitcoin core wallet, or whatever else, just be sure to encrypt the thing.

I guess the special appeal with hardware wallets is that they isolate the device from the OS so even if the OS is infected, nothing happens.

Yeah, this is what I do. Cut everything in a USB and plug it in only if you are using your wallet. Make sure nothing is left in your computer after using it.

If you are feeling very paranoid use encryption software like Veracrypt on your USB.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: hisuka2987 on June 29, 2017, 08:42:08 AM
Because they are getting more and more popular right now, I am waiting for Trezor to have more stock to buy but if you can not wait for one, you might buy one from a trustworthy member in the forum from those who bought a large number of them -although technically, that wouldn't the most secure idea- so it is better to just wait.


Title: Re: hardware wallets
Post by: BillyBobZorton on June 29, 2017, 03:00:49 PM
How to get one?

All seem to be out of stock !!!

Trezor are in stock. But if you want my advice, I would say buying one can wait. I bought one that arrived last week and it made me feel like it was a wasted purchase. I store my seeds and private keys well enough for me not to need a hardware wallet.

My overpriced Trezor is just one more seed to back up and store.
I agree with this. If you're concerned with security you can create a paper wallet, which is 100% secure. The only use case for a HW wallet is for a large account that you're constantly withdrawing from, which for most people isn't the case. For 100s or 1000s of $ an iPhone app wallet is good enough.

You can always get an USB stick and just put your keys on there, be it a paper wallet image, or a wallet.dat bitcoin core wallet, or whatever else, just be sure to encrypt the thing.

I guess the special appeal with hardware wallets is that they isolate the device from the OS so even if the OS is infected, nothing happens.

Yeah, this is what I do. Cut everything in a USB and plug it in only if you are using your wallet. Make sure nothing is left in your computer after using it.

If you are feeling very paranoid use encryption software like Veracrypt on your USB.

If you are going to spend money on a hardware wallet, you better learn how to properly use it and the prons and cons, otherwise just go with the USB approach + Veracrypt or whatever, so people can't steal your coins.

I've heard some people using the Veracrypt approach to put their screenshot of a QR code of the private key of the paperwallet. I think depending on this is not a good idea. I've noticed that images tend to corrupt rather easily overtime for some reason.

I think putting an encrypted wallet.dat file is a way more robust approach than using an screenshot.

I would probably use all types of ways to store private keys and just put them all together in a Veracrypt container.