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Title: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: DarkKnight68 on June 30, 2017, 11:48:08 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: altgamerf4 on June 30, 2017, 11:59:42 AM
The fight against drug addicts in our country will not lead to successful results, because this is already a well-coordinated business and will not be destroyed. In addition, alcohol and cigarettes are completely legal, although they are no better than drugs.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on June 30, 2017, 12:15:32 PM
Violence can solve this problem only temporary. I think that the drug business has its roots deep in many countries of the world, it is not operated within the borders of a single country anymore. For example here in Italy drugs come from different continents, we get a lot from Morocco but lately Albania a small country is bringing lots of cannabis in Italy. Our government is fighting hard against this phenomena but it looks like it can't be stopped. Violence is no answer either, unless our government gives permission to officials like Guardia di Finanzia who is the authority to keep control of the sea borders and not let anything suspicious to come in, to shoot criminals.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Mometaskers on June 30, 2017, 12:51:36 PM
It may but only temporarily. Look here in the Philippines, it's usually the poorer addicts that get shot. I doubt that would happen to the richer users, much less the manufacturers.

It is a big business, with several politicians and police involved. You can't fix the problem unless you get rid of those too.

Another thing is that it would be a never ending battle, so long as there is a demand. Like I always tell other people here, supply expands to fulfill demand. Get rid of a manufacturer, someone with capital takes his place, same with the distributors and retailers. Same with the corrupt politicians and police.

Violence can solve this problem only temporary. I think that the drug business has its roots deep in many countries of the world, it is not operated within the borders of a single country anymore. For example here in Italy drugs come from different continents, we get a lot from Morocco but lately Albania a small country is bringing lots of cannabis in Italy. Our government is fighting hard against this phenomena but it looks like it can't be stopped. Violence is no answer either, unless our government gives permission to officials like Guardia di Finanzia who is the authority to keep control of the sea borders and not let anything suspicious to come in, to shoot criminals.

I didn't know you also have a drug problem there. I saw an RT report earlier that you are closing ports to immigrant ships. If you are going to do that against EU policies, I suppose you can also shoot at criminals. Are your police also unarmed like in some EU countries?


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: matuson on June 30, 2017, 03:18:21 PM
The drug has no effect because the law enforcement agencies who must wage this war themselves cover for drug traffickers and participate with them in this business. Too big money turns in this business. Drug dealers can buy them all. Only the people themselves can stop the spread of this infection.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: BingoDog on June 30, 2017, 03:43:14 PM
Violence itself is no answer to anything so isn't the solution for drugs. Some countries have realy severe measures.like death penalty and they still haven't solved the drugs problems. Maybe the answer could be to inform the children and youngsters at early stage how drugs are dangerous and where addiction can lead and we have to give them alternative so they will have no need for drugs. Where there is no demand, there is no need for supply.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: merchantofzeny on June 30, 2017, 06:44:28 PM
No. Though I believe drugs should still be regulated, it is also much better if people never start taking them. I think an improved mental health program could help people stay away from drugs but teach people from a young age how to handle stuff like stress, boredom and depression.

Another would be engaging the community in projects that would help keep people busy with more fulfilling and useful missions.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: SativaDiva on June 30, 2017, 07:17:33 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

Violence is never the key to any country in any way, shape, or form. Violence or even the threat of violence keeps us on edge, our fight-or-flight response is activated consistently and we as humans have no choice but to walk around with this ball of fear or knots in our stomachs. Support should be the answer to drug addiction, an addiction is an altered mindset where you are dependent upon a substance. We are so quick to punish drug addicts but not money addicts who hoard 1% of the entire country's money. Addicts need help not punishment, one becomes defiant under the confines of a society that ridicules them on drugs and even when they make an attempt to get clean. Hugs, love, community, and comfort is what humans crave; drugs take that place. Drugs are the substitution for the whole, we use them to make up for the things we lost or never had, sometimes to just be numb. This is the reason why addicts are 100% more aggressive then a person who simply does not get the love and care they need, we are social creatures who let material things make up for the social benefits that can be gained without money, fame, and fortune.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: audaciousbeing on June 30, 2017, 08:32:08 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

Sometimes extreme situations demands extreme measure which is why violence is sometimes considered but in every clime of the society, I have never seen where violence solved any issues rather people will fear to be caught rather than stopping the attitude altogether. The issue of drugs is a something fundamental which violence will not solve rather a massive campaign aimed  at doing reorientation of the community then making sure the source of the drug is shut and then identify the reason for people resorting to that in the first place.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: darkangel11 on June 30, 2017, 08:43:11 PM
Why would you even want to deal with the addicts with force? It's their life and their choice!
Why don't you focus on other addicts. Should we use violence against alcoholics, weed smokers, children addicted to computer games?
What does give you the right to make other people live like you, to shape their day according to your own? We aren't the same and we have different needs.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Eternu on June 30, 2017, 08:47:42 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
Actually i do not know what to think. I mean, there is no way to forbid and stop drug using, people will always find a way to get some drug. And it is same for violence. Violence is part of humans, and some people are more in control of them selves that other. Violence is primitive thing, and maybe in future people will find some cure for it, but that is future. For now we can keep trying to bring drug using and violence to a minimum, that is more than enough for now.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Nikola95 on June 30, 2017, 11:31:51 PM
Probably yes if there is lot of drug addicts in that country. Philippines have great problem with mafia and drugs in country, but they make them to fear. I think crime is a bit lower now.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: millionaireshs on July 01, 2017, 02:20:28 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

Hi I'm  from Philippines.
This issue regarding violence and drugs are widely known in our country since our President Duterte is really eager to wipe out illegal drugs in his country. I'm  not againts our president but on the Ejk rather. But somehow I agree on it.
A mistake is can't be solve by another mistake. Yes but its better to get rid on the virus before it spread. What I concern the most is having a proper judicial system, that's it.
But I commend Pres. Duterte. I think corruption in Philippines lessen at this time.

#Experience the PHILIPPINES.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: masterwakokok7 on July 01, 2017, 05:34:25 AM
Nope, It will only cost more rebellions and chaos. If violence is used let's expect that their would be a lot of blood will shed, families that will suffer, innocent lives will be taken. Nevertheless, Violence also could help to lessen the aggressiveness of the drug cartels or syndicates. But, the sad reality of this world is that Violence will not do any good hence it only promotes hatred and anger.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: tikalbong on July 01, 2017, 05:45:31 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

I don't like to call it it violence. Discipline is what I call it.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on July 01, 2017, 06:12:53 AM
It may but only temporarily. Look here in the Philippines, it's usually the poorer addicts that get shot. I doubt that would happen to the richer users, much less the manufacturers.

It is a big business, with several politicians and police involved. You can't fix the problem unless you get rid of those too.

Another thing is that it would be a never ending battle, so long as there is a demand. Like I always tell other people here, supply expands to fulfill demand. Get rid of a manufacturer, someone with capital takes his place, same with the distributors and retailers. Same with the corrupt politicians and police.

Violence can solve this problem only temporary. I think that the drug business has its roots deep in many countries of the world, it is not operated within the borders of a single country anymore. For example here in Italy drugs come from different continents, we get a lot from Morocco but lately Albania a small country is bringing lots of cannabis in Italy. Our government is fighting hard against this phenomena but it looks like it can't be stopped. Violence is no answer either, unless our government gives permission to officials like Guardia di Finanzia who is the authority to keep control of the sea borders and not let anything suspicious to come in, to shoot criminals.

I didn't know you also have a drug problem there. I saw an RT report earlier that you are closing ports to immigrant ships. If you are going to do that against EU policies, I suppose you can also shoot at criminals. Are your police also unarmed like in some EU countries?

They are not unarmed but they are not allowed to shoot at criminals until now. In Italy there is a lot of confusion regarding how to deal with the drug markets. Many many ships or small engine boats are getting caught with cannabis in it, but the owners of these ships are nowhere to be found, presumably they are escaping our guards. I think if the government allows the guards to shoot the criminals this would solve a big chunk of this problem but for the moment this seems like a far far away land.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: siti25 on July 01, 2017, 07:27:41 AM
Violence will not be the solution to any problem. Drug problems in any country will be difficult to resolve. Maybe, now the drug addicts can be cured some people, the rest just wait until their death. Well, so that the status of drugs turned into non-existent, we prevent anyone not to consume drugs. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: TheButterZone on July 01, 2017, 07:59:06 AM
Extinction of homo sapiens is the key to a drug-free country.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: freedomno1 on July 01, 2017, 08:00:38 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

Sending them to an island of addicts and having that area treated as a Legal drug use zone, then watching and observing if people leave and are addicted to the drug and then contribute to the spread of more drugs the penalties are far more severe than if they decide to stay in the zone. The zone would have all the rehab and people would be sent there for drug offenses, crime should be fairly low since the drugs will be legal in the zone but if someone tries to export em they are so dead ^^. Freedom of usage, offset by restriction to the Freedom of Mobility.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: skymberloh on July 01, 2017, 01:32:53 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

To put them all into an a place where they are all be treated like a rehab.If a person is well treated then he will be free and will be given a second chance to live in a society.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Xester on July 01, 2017, 03:12:49 PM
Maybe put them all to rehabilitation center.  But do you think that all of these drug addicts and pusher will obey that or I mean they will follow you.  Drug addict minds are different.  It is something that we cannot think of.  Most of them killed innocent people.  But as they say, they were also victims.  Drug lords should be punished because they are the main reason why we have this problem.  So killing drug addicts who do not want to surrender maybe fair.  Maybe.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Mometaskers on July 01, 2017, 04:46:19 PM
It may but only temporarily. Look here in the Philippines, it's usually the poorer addicts that get shot. I doubt that would happen to the richer users, much less the manufacturers.

It is a big business, with several politicians and police involved. You can't fix the problem unless you get rid of those too.

Another thing is that it would be a never ending battle, so long as there is a demand. Like I always tell other people here, supply expands to fulfill demand. Get rid of a manufacturer, someone with capital takes his place, same with the distributors and retailers. Same with the corrupt politicians and police.

Violence can solve this problem only temporary. I think that the drug business has its roots deep in many countries of the world, it is not operated within the borders of a single country anymore. For example here in Italy drugs come from different continents, we get a lot from Morocco but lately Albania a small country is bringing lots of cannabis in Italy. Our government is fighting hard against this phenomena but it looks like it can't be stopped. Violence is no answer either, unless our government gives permission to officials like Guardia di Finanzia who is the authority to keep control of the sea borders and not let anything suspicious to come in, to shoot criminals.

I didn't know you also have a drug problem there. I saw an RT report earlier that you are closing ports to immigrant ships. If you are going to do that against EU policies, I suppose you can also shoot at criminals. Are your police also unarmed like in some EU countries?

They are not unarmed but they are not allowed to shoot at criminals until now. In Italy there is a lot of confusion regarding how to deal with the drug markets. Many many ships or small engine boats are getting caught with cannabis in it, but the owners of these ships are nowhere to be found, presumably they are escaping our guards. I think if the government allows the guards to shoot the criminals this would solve a big chunk of this problem but for the moment this seems like a far far away land.

Wait, not shot at them? Even if the police are running after them? That's insane. If that was here they'd be on the ground before they can even flee.

Europe got too "liberal" for its own good. If it didn't you wouldn't have problems with these "immigrants" and can turn away excess you can no longer accommodate.

Back to drug traffickers, either you impose harsher penalties (I doubt that would happen) or legalize cannabis to ruin their business.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Babylon on July 02, 2017, 10:27:57 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

I think there's no solution to drug abuse, violence is just a temporary solution, even if the government was able to determine or catch some of the drug lords here in our country, this kind of business is well coordinated.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: diegz on July 03, 2017, 12:41:28 AM
Actually, I do believe in second chance. However in cases that drug addicts just keep on repeating what they are doing, I think violence is the only solution to that.

If caught once, then rehabilitate, imprison then set free. But if they repeat it, whatever the reason is, just put them in grave. I believe that when they repeat it, they will do it over and over again even if you jail them.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: crwth on July 03, 2017, 12:52:07 AM
Actually, I do believe in second chance. However in cases that drug addicts just keep on repeating what they are doing, I think violence is the only solution to that.

If caught once, then rehabilitate, imprison then set free. But if they repeat it, whatever the reason is, just put them in grave. I believe that when they repeat it, they will do it over and over again even if you jail them.
It's really a hard decision knowing that they could easily go back because that's who they are, drug addicts are somewhat prone to the temptation that they would go back there and you know how hard it is to quit something that's a part of your life already. They deserve a second chance but it's hard to give it to them thrice or even four times, it's just that dumb to do.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: diegz on July 03, 2017, 05:30:48 AM
Actually, I do believe in second chance. However in cases that drug addicts just keep on repeating what they are doing, I think violence is the only solution to that.

If caught once, then rehabilitate, imprison then set free. But if they repeat it, whatever the reason is, just put them in grave. I believe that when they repeat it, they will do it over and over again even if you jail them.
It's really a hard decision knowing that they could easily go back because that's who they are, drug addicts are somewhat prone to the temptation that they would go back there and you know how hard it is to quit something that's a part of your life already. They deserve a second chance but it's hard to give it to them thrice or even four times, it's just that dumb to do.

That is why when they do it thrice already, then get rid of them. Before they could take another ones life or property, take them down instead, atleast one less drug addict in the world.

Besides when they are in jail, they will be another liability/burden to the government.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: The_prodigy on July 03, 2017, 05:35:54 AM
Actually, I do believe in second chance. However in cases that drug addicts just keep on repeating what they are doing, I think violence is the only solution to that.

If caught once, then rehabilitate, imprison then set free. But if they repeat it, whatever the reason is, just put them in grave. I believe that when they repeat it, they will do it over and over again even if you jail them.
It's really a hard decision knowing that they could easily go back because that's who they are, drug addicts are somewhat prone to the temptation that they would go back there and you know how hard it is to quit something that's a part of your life already. They deserve a second chance but it's hard to give it to them thrice or even four times, it's just that dumb to do.

That is why when they do it thrice already, then get rid of them. Before they could take another ones life or property, take them down instead, atleast one less drug addict in the world.

Besides when they are in jail, they will be another liability/burden to the government.

I think violence is not neccessary but sometimes a commodity that we kust sanction as a deterrent or to show that this is a serious business. Drugs and criminality are rampant because they believe that they would always have chances, and I for one think that sometimes due to their brutalith and the horrendous nature of their crimes a harsher consequence needs to be placed. Whether it might be by death or in sometimes as an act of defense due to a legal action. Then I agree that sometimes violence can be a key.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: LilibethSantos on July 03, 2017, 05:36:49 AM
Good parenting is the key to a drug-free(or mostly) society. Instead, governments offer solutions like the "war on drugs" to suck more money from their tax slaves without accomplishing anything.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: joebrook on July 03, 2017, 11:05:39 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
Violence doesn't and have not solved any problem in the entire world, it only escalate things,  the best way to deal with addicts is to arrest them all even if forcefully and put them into rehabilitation centre so thay they can get the help that they need and this should be done whether willingly or forcefully.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Sithara007 on July 04, 2017, 06:35:46 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
Violence doesn't and have not solved any problem in the entire world, it only escalate things,  the best way to deal with addicts is to arrest them all even if forcefully and put them into rehabilitation centre so thay they can get the help that they need and this should be done whether willingly or forcefully.

Rehabilitation using too much force is very rarely successful. There are a lot of religious organizations which run these sort of drug-rehabilitation centers. And there are a lot of scandals surrounding them. A number of addicts have committed suicide and some have died under mysterious circumstances.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: hugoworld on July 04, 2017, 06:47:20 AM
Generation y are suffering from many mental disases so they want to relief these inner sufferings with drugs. Modern world makes us feel terrible and having lack of enough abilities to deal with modern world requriements damages human soul. For that reasons , If we want to decrease drug addiction, we must find solution to these inner suffurings as soon as possible.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: crwth on July 04, 2017, 06:57:44 AM
Generation y are suffering from many mental disases so they want to relief these inner sufferings with drugs. Modern world makes us feel terrible and having lack of enough abilities to deal with modern world requriements damages human soul. For that reasons , If we want to decrease drug addiction, we must find solution to these inner suffurings as soon as possible.
There are a lot of mental diseases that affects everyone like depression, anger management and other stuff. It does make you feel terrible because there are people who really are suffering. It's hard to find a solution knowing that you need to tweak their brains but I think what we can do as individuals is to support them, and be there for them because you will never know what can happen.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: deejhay on July 04, 2017, 09:16:48 AM
violence is necessary to fight illegal drug.
it is much faster and more effective since the small and big user in drug will be caught up in the purge.
beside it will be harder to distribute illegal drugs if most courier are afraid to carry one.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Netnox on July 04, 2017, 09:26:20 AM
violence is necessary to fight illegal drug.

Violence must be the last option. In my opinion, the government must try other avenues such as legalization, awareness campaigns, community education.etc before using violence against the drug paddlers and the users. But from what we are seeing, they are directly using extreme force without considering about any other option.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: matuson on July 04, 2017, 10:42:59 AM
Unfortunately people are so arranged that they understand only the language of force. This leads to the fact that countries with developed democracy is powerless in the face of human aggression. The government is trying to approach all according to the General rules, but everyone is different, and the individual approach is not possible. In this I am a supporter of the right to arms. Everyone should have the right to violence to protect their rights.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Xester on July 04, 2017, 10:47:55 AM
violence is necessary to fight illegal drug.

Violence must be the last option. In my opinion, the government must try other avenues such as legalization, awareness campaigns, community education.etc before using violence against the drug paddlers and the users. But from what we are seeing, they are directly using extreme force without considering about any other option.

That would not be enough.  Do you think that the government do not do all that you suggested?  All were aware what illegal drugs can do to you and to others.  Just do not listen to Calamard and the professor guy that said that meth does not do anything harmful to our body.  In a country were killings were caused by drug addicts violence is the only option.  It is better to have those addicts be killed or jailed rather than innocent people be killed by them.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: GreenBits on July 04, 2017, 12:09:49 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

I think there's no solution to drug abuse, violence is just a temporary solution, even if the government was able to determine or catch some of the drug lords here in our country, this kind of business is well coordinated.

AMEN. I don't think we understand how hard it is to run a drug empire without government notice. You can't. Besides the foot traffic, the laundering of funds, the communications that can be recorded, I honestly don't think governments aren't aware of the drug merchants in their territories.

It takes one of your customers, one single time, to be caught and rat on you. People Rollin on their dealers may be more common than fish breathing water. There is little honor at the depths of addiction.

The government only goes after those that have enough assets to seize. The government doesn't really give a fuck about drugs. Drugs, or the arrests they provide, simply fill prisons that get paid to be full, and fine those who can least afford to pay.

Any serious government strategy to curb drug use should have a few key parts:

Education:
Because knowing the real dangers of a Substance is the best preventative.

Rehabilitation:
For those that slip through the cracks, incarcerate them WHILE rehabilitating them. That say you can ensure that the rehabilitation is good faith.

Prevention:
Let me be real. Certain drugs only come from certain places, some examples:

If you are an American and have had cocaine, it came from Mexico. Likewise, low quality marijuana. Inversely, your high quality pot was homegrown, or came from California or Colorado.If you have had real LSD in the last decade (you most likely didn't), it was produced by a Greatful Dead fan with a penchant for science ;) if you had what you thought was LSD in the last 10 years, you most likely had a Chinese manufactured synthetic. Hash is Canadian. Opium is South American. Meth, well, that's Made in The USA™ ;)

I say all that to say this: punishing addicts is like cutting the tops off of a weed, but never pulling it up. As long as the sources remain intact, the weed will regrow, waiting to be chopped down again.  If we don't go after the sources; for example, the Chinese labs where my Greatful friend gets his precursors to manufacture LSD, the shipping routes where coke comes across our southern border. The pharmacies that provide enough OTC cough medicine to convert to meth. The nurses that subvert opiods from institutions for Street sale. The pharmaceutical companies that aggressively market said opiods.

Addicts are low hanging fruit.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: squatz1 on July 04, 2017, 06:06:56 PM
This may be the way that some country leaders go ahead and try to fix this, though I don't think it's going to be something that's going to work all around the world when it comes to combating crime. As in some areas it is WAY more normalized for people to be addicted and use weed, and other drugs. It may work in the Phillipines, or it may be working. But here in the US there'd be a ton of killing, it's kind of normalized for people to be using drugs here, using weed is one of the things that people see as like drinking or smoking cigs these days.

Who knows, could work, could not.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: matchi2011 on July 04, 2017, 08:04:20 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

Proper education i would assume. And start educating them while they're still young and informatig them of the effects it does to themselves, their families and the society in general. People should br fully aware of the consequences should they venture on drug addiction.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Sithara007 on July 05, 2017, 01:58:37 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

Proper education i would assume. And start educating them while they're still young and informatig them of the effects it does to themselves, their families and the society in general. People should br fully aware of the consequences should they venture on drug addiction.

Awareness campaigns will have a huge effect on the levels of drug addiction. Especially in the third world countries such as India and the Philippines, where most of the addicts are uneducated and in their teens.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Sadlife on July 05, 2017, 02:13:09 AM
One's thing for sure pretty words can't change the world alone. What do you expect in fighting criminals? Fighting them with words or some magic wand that will change them to a good person with just one swing of your wand. The answer is obvious whether you like it or not violence will always be apart in fighting criminality and the criminals that already lose their mentality because of this dangerous drugs. For many years the Philippines has been ruled by corrupted and idiot leaders and promise change to our country but look what happened more and more people keep suffering from poverty the streets weren't safe anymore even in day light because there to many bad people lurking. Now this things that's been being resolved and handle to restore the prosperity of this country. What else do you want?


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: ZzV1Finn on July 05, 2017, 11:28:19 AM
I do not think that violence or assisting addicts in a rehabilitation center will help to eliminate this problem. Propaganda of drugs especially among celebrities will push new people to try this shit.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Xester on July 05, 2017, 11:43:20 AM
I do not think that violence or assisting addicts in a rehabilitation center will help to eliminate this problem. Propaganda of drugs especially among celebrities will push new people to try this shit.

Maybe you are correct.  If you did not experienced to live in a country were so much crime caused by drug addicts perhaps you would not mind and consider yourself on the side of the people who believe that everything can be changed.  We are used up with the merciless killings and seems everyday by these drug dependents.  They were nothing but a bunch of criminals who already lost their souls because of the killings they have made.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Okurkabinladin on July 05, 2017, 04:11:58 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

You are oversimplifying, my friend.

Violence or rather monopoly on violence is what makes state a state. And in democracy - the people as sovereign of public affairs.

This is not about drugs. This is about imposing commonly accepted rules and order in society, that has been ran drug and robber barons running their private armies. This about the people fighting back feudalism.

You can do that perhaps by dialogue. In first world country with working law and order. But otherwise?


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: bcnaranjo on August 14, 2017, 11:56:57 AM
We did not live in a perfect world, criminals,addicts and other bad people are just around. Violence are here and there,if it takes a consented violence to capture those drug pushers,addicts and criminals,I think it is just the right thing to do now,anyway if we did nothing wrong then we have nothing to be afraid of.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Xester on August 14, 2017, 12:33:23 PM
We did not live in a perfect world, criminals,addicts and other bad people are just around. Violence are here and there,if it takes a consented violence to capture those drug pushers,addicts and criminals,I think it is just the right thing to do now,anyway if we did nothing wrong then we have nothing to be afraid of.

I think all the problems that surrounded the world can resolve in a peaceful way. To achieve a drug free country we can use violence but it is against the law of human rights. If a person is using drugs, police can catch them and put them in a rehabilitation center so they will be cured. Having violence will not resolve the problems but it will only cause greater problems


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: marinomario on September 01, 2017, 02:35:22 AM
not only that, but to act decisively. if not act decisively, it will be many lives that disappeared the impact of drugs. for example, if dealing with action casually, it will worsen the image of the country's security as well as the image of the country's leadership. this is a life not to play main, in fact until now no one act decisively in combating drugs so it is very difficult to destroy


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: rocketdella on September 01, 2017, 05:52:32 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

I don't think drugs issues in my country will have a solution.  It's there for decades, even violence can't stop all the illegal drugs activities.  The big time drug sindicates can still continue selling illegal drugs even behind bars.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: olubams on September 01, 2017, 06:07:51 AM
Sometimes extreme situations demand extreme measures but going beyond that there should also be some element of diplomacy and rigorous explanation of such campaign  will go a long way in clearing the mind of people by those who wants to frustrate such effort which is what is being witnessed in the Philippines hopefully it will be sorted out in due time.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Indrawan77 on September 01, 2017, 06:34:51 AM
A proper explanation about drug effect can be the solution but it won't be effective I think the best way is by strict law if strict law cant repressed this situation then violence is the last resort, a soft persuade usually is difficult to decrease the number of drug usage


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: jk_14 on September 01, 2017, 09:27:04 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
The solution is: Researching drugs and stopping the spread of antiquated propaganda. The majority of recreational drugs are not just safe, but also have tremendous opportunity for medical applications.

MDMA and psychedelics have huge potential when it comes to healing depression, addiction, PTSD and other problems. And we have known this for decades. Nixon started the "war on drugs" for political and economical reasons. Banning them made sure that certain people had the chance of making a lot more money than they normally would and that's the only reason drugs are perceived as bad these days, even though they are not.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Arahara0230 on September 01, 2017, 10:10:07 AM
No definitrly not. It can stop temporarily but it will be back soon. Drug supplier is back up by big people, politicians, government must do something about it in order to eliminate drugs


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: iv4n on September 01, 2017, 12:34:04 PM
Violence is not solution for any kind of problem. Violence can just cause more problems examples of that are everywhere around us. What is drug? Educate yourself about different herbs, only with the decriminalization of many herbs we solve the problem with many chemical substances that people are using now. Not legalization, decriminalization and some regulations.
I spoke about it in couple threads here, there is a movie called "American drug war- last white hope". This is educational movie, there you can see how this drug war was created, who earns the most from drug wars.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on September 01, 2017, 02:09:08 PM
Addiction is a mental illness, look, you can addicted to almost anything, be it FB or porn, etc. With substance abuse, the changes the chemicals make in the brain starts a vicious cycle. So no, I don't think violence would get anywhere, it never does.

Might as well teach citizens from a very young age how to adapt to stress and stuff without resorting to these. Teaching psychology at school would also be useful.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: jk_14 on September 01, 2017, 02:45:28 PM
Addiction is a mental illness, look, you can addicted to almost anything, be it FB or porn, etc. With substance abuse, the changes the chemicals make in the brain starts a vicious cycle. So no, I don't think violence would get anywhere, it never does.

Might as well teach citizens from a very young age how to adapt to stress and stuff without resorting to these. Teaching psychology at school would also be useful.
There is no vicious cycle with most drugs. Psychedelics, MDMA and Cannabis don't have any addictive effects and Psychedelics and MDMA even have "anti-addictive" effects due to very fast increases in tolerance. Basically, you have to leave a few weeks or months in between to get the same effects, so there's no issue. Stimulants and Opiates are dangerous in the way that you suggest, but even that is a result of no self-restraint.
If someone has problems with drugs, they would have problems anyways in their life. Either with money, or with health (drinking), or poor impulse control and always getting into fights with people.
Drugs are not to blame, people are 100% at fault.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: joebrook on September 01, 2017, 03:05:09 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
There is a saying that when persuasion fails, then force is applied, With the drug issue in society, the people that is the drug dealers are always armed to the teeth and there is no way that they will stop doing something that brings them lots of money.They need to fought before they see reason. The time for negotiations has been over for a very long time.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Douglasyukanov on September 02, 2017, 02:42:23 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
no, not necessarily by violence in dealing with drug problems, because violence can not always overcome a problem and also excessive violence resulting in human rights violations.
to overcome the problem of drug use and addiction the most important is the approach of self and early education about the dangers of drug use, starting from the smallest scope of the family, where family members play an important role in controlling and monitoring each family members so as not to fall drug use that can cause addiction .
the government and its officials certainly have a program to overcome the problem of drugs, the government of course also has a strict regulation on drug abuse, we as a community must certainly support the government program so that there is no drug abuse and no violence needed to solve the problem.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Nakakapagpabagabag on September 02, 2017, 02:57:07 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

The government of the Philippines call this thing as cleansing.  Drug addicts were addicts and they do no good with others.  They are the one who killed innocent people.  When police came to arrest them, they are the one who refuses and fights back.  Reason for the policemen to fire back.  Drug pushers and drug lords should be put to jail and punishment should be death penalty. 

I think it can be achievable like the country of Singapore.  Law enforcement and uncorrupt officials should the one who leads the country to attain a drug free country.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Sithara007 on September 02, 2017, 06:34:56 AM
Violent methods can be used as a last resort. In case of Philippines, no other option was there. Drug kingpins and their goons were threatening anyone who were opposed to their business. Even the cops were afraid to do their duty.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on September 04, 2017, 06:59:59 PM
Addiction is a mental illness, look, you can addicted to almost anything, be it FB or porn, etc. With substance abuse, the changes the chemicals make in the brain starts a vicious cycle. So no, I don't think violence would get anywhere, it never does.

Might as well teach citizens from a very young age how to adapt to stress and stuff without resorting to these. Teaching psychology at school would also be useful.
There is no vicious cycle with most drugs. Psychedelics, MDMA and Cannabis don't have any addictive effects and Psychedelics and MDMA even have "anti-addictive" effects due to very fast increases in tolerance. Basically, you have to leave a few weeks or months in between to get the same effects, so there's no issue. Stimulants and Opiates are dangerous in the way that you suggest, but even that is a result of no self-restraint.
If someone has problems with drugs, they would have problems anyways in their life. Either with money, or with health (drinking), or poor impulse control and always getting into fights with people.
Drugs are not to blame, people are 100% at fault.


Well in my country it's usually just meth and cocaine, with the occasional marijuana. It's only the rich kids that get to try party drugs. So basically what the poor have access here are stimulants.

As for self-restraint, I think people who are "damaged" to begin with don't have much. Those that don't have problems before that got addicted usually got into it due to peer pressure, trying to fit in or look cool (hence why I think knowing basic psychology might help). This is especially dangerous due to my country's collectivist culture. You hear us enough in the news so you probably know which one.  ;)

About the "anti-addictive" drugs you mentioned, wouldn't that cause overdose as the person tries to get high by taking a higher dose?


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: cocoamint01 on September 05, 2017, 12:57:47 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

There will be no other options to have a drug-free country. Illegal drugs will always be there even violence won't stop drugs activities in any country. 


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: mhine07 on September 05, 2017, 03:10:03 AM
violence can only reduce the drug related crimes in most countries but it cannot solve or free a country into drugs, in our country there are many who had killed because of drugs , many people are being caught because of illegal drugs , and also there were innocents people who get involved with illegal drugs , it only reduces the cases but until now our country is not free from illegal drugs , even the police make violence to the drug lords. maybe if people knows to discipline themselves , each people knows how to be disciplined citizen, maybe a country with this kind of people will be free from drugs , and violence will not be done.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Sithara007 on September 05, 2017, 03:47:40 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

There will be no other options to have a drug-free country. Illegal drugs will always be there even violence won't stop drugs activities in any country. 

Illegal drugs will always be present, with violence or without violence. As long as the demand for contraband exists, the supply will get through. That is why I have favored legalization of drugs. At least the government can monitor the drug use and tax the drug revenue.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Masha Sha on September 07, 2017, 05:59:24 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

Death. O2 > H2O > Sugar...

I personnally smile and laugh when you die. Those who believe to rule what other can or can't put inside their bodies are things to me. Worthless and cumbersome things.

So by killing the prohibitionnists peace and love can be restored.

In the meantime, i hope you will enjoy the "drug war".

The empire of "drugs" wins, always.

Btw how are you gonna enforce drug probibition in the space age?

You are just monkey cloacked as humans... chimeras. Lost in both world, destined to nothingness.

Read your religious ancestral text... you may save yourself, otherwise... have fun in the war


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: meliodas on September 07, 2017, 06:11:26 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

Violence is only a temporary solution to drug problem. I think it's really hard to eliminate drugs because it's a big and dirty business handled by organized and untouchable syndicates. Violence will only result to numbers of death and it will only cause people lose trust in the government. Violence is not the best way to control everything.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Masha Sha on September 07, 2017, 06:27:04 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

Violence is only a temporary solution to drug problem. I think it's really hard to eliminate drugs because it's a big and dirty business handled by organized and untouchable syndicates. Violence will only result to numbers of death and it will only cause people lose trust in the government. Violence is not the best way to control everything.

Violence against the drug empire is very good. It weeds out the weak syndicates, and only the more "evolved" and "adapted" survives and thrives. Rememeber it's easy for them, the plants wanna live... who knows they may even help them.

Why shall the plants have mercy against those who want to genocide them? How plants were born? Add and e and the question is as valid (planets).


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Senkuli on September 07, 2017, 07:14:42 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
handling drug abuse cases should not always use violence, not all problems can be solved by violent means.
in my country to prevent drug abuse is to approach yourself to drug users, to advise on the dangers of illegal drug use, and to control family members so as not to fall into an environment using illegal drugs.
governments and communities should work together to combat drug use so as not to become a community disease


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Masha Sha on September 07, 2017, 07:21:43 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
handling drug abuse cases should not always use violence, not all problems can be solved by violent means.
in my country to prevent drug abuse is to approach yourself to drug users, to advise on the dangers of illegal drug use, and to control family members so as not to fall into an environment using illegal drugs.
governments and communities should work together to combat drug use so as not to become a community disease

When did they start to deink fermented beverage? A lot of animals of the creation get drunk (which is a psyoachtive, create dependence)... drunk elephants are quite problematic.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: FiveReelsTwo on September 08, 2017, 12:45:59 AM
Instead of violence, it is great to create solid programs that can change perception of a petson involved in drugs.  One is livelihood programs which sinvw the common geound if drug problem. Is poverty.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Sithara007 on September 08, 2017, 01:28:56 AM
Violence is only a temporary solution to drug problem. I think it's really hard to eliminate drugs because it's a big and dirty business handled by organized and untouchable syndicates. Violence will only result to numbers of death and it will only cause people lose trust in the government. Violence is not the best way to control everything.

When people are desperate for a solution, they don't really care how bad or practical that can be. They just want the results, although it will be a temporary one. Look at what is happening in the Philippines. The war on drugs has succeeded in reducing the crime rate and decreasing the number of drug addicts. But we need to see, whether this is a temporary effect, or a permanent one.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: UchihaRukawa on September 08, 2017, 05:07:37 AM
Violence is never an option when it comes to solving anything, what I believe is that the only thing that could do to solve a problem like drugs is discipline. Now, when we say discipline, it should always start at home, that is why the first few years of a child is very critical in building his values. Once we have done our part in with our family, then I believe that our world will be crime free.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Masha Sha on September 08, 2017, 05:22:09 AM
Violence is never an option when it comes to solving anything, what I believe is that the only thing that could do to solve a problem like drugs is discipline. Now, when we say discipline, it should always start at home, that is why the first few years of a child is very critical in building his values. Once we have done our part in with our family, then I believe that our world will be crime free.

You don't understand the notion of crime. Why using a plant of the earth is a crime?

Not burning jew/lgbt/political opponents in nazi countries was a crime.

If cryptocurrency are made a crime, how would your discpline story work?

The iq in this board is getting very low... too much toxins in their brains.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: moanamakeway on September 08, 2017, 06:37:20 AM
I think violence is the only way. Here in the Philippines, people already abused the term DEMOCRACY. They think it is a way to do whatever we want. But if you look at it, they have abused the law that the law now allows killing those drug pushers and users. Drugs don't contribute to society. It destroys the youth and destroys the family. If killing these people is the only way to achieve peace again, them I will agree


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: mothergodness on September 08, 2017, 09:13:43 AM
I think that this is a good way, but it will be necessary to destroy many drug producers and policemen who cover them. Also, you need to destroy the drugs themselves so that no one has the temptation to sell them.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: jakezyrus00 on September 08, 2017, 12:28:21 PM
No I do not think so. Violence is not needed to endure or kill the drug issue in our country. First of all our government should give more focus on the import and export because that is one of the reason why the drugs are still flowing in our market.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: galestorm on September 08, 2017, 02:20:01 PM
If its the only thing that could stop drug related crimes then yes. I fully support violence just to stop drug related acts even if it is inhumane to do. Humans are given the chance to change and they have just wasted it. Now its time to pay for what they have done. Let this be a lesson.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: andrei214 on November 12, 2017, 03:21:10 AM
Violence is not the only way to solve the drug addiction of a country. Instead create much more effective laws about it and try to destroy the root of it.And for the person who was drug addicted give them a proper jurisdiction and give them chance to be rehabilitated and prove that they can change.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: aldrin6697 on November 12, 2017, 11:13:04 AM
Not at all, but we still need to see the sides of the story. In our country drug users became harmful to the society and can even make senior citizens,students and females of all age victims just to complement their addiction to drugs. in these case the government cant just tell them what to do because they are now lawless people. In order for the country to control them they shoot the criminals and drug users first before they shoot the policemen.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Umar001 on November 12, 2017, 01:50:28 PM
Violence is not the solution to any problem, for drugs to be eradicate from country  all hand must be on desk, they should be strict punishment for drugs dellers, and those addicted to drugs should be evacuated by government for proper rehabilitation, before allow into society. By so doing we would have free country of drugs.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: GOODNESS on November 12, 2017, 03:26:29 PM
I don't believe that Violence is really the key to a drug free country, so it is NO as Violence is not the key. There should be a study and research approach into How does drug addicts gets these drugs?, the route through which the drugs passes without the law and drug enforcement agencies interfering with these processes. But it is a pity because the drug addicts cuts across not only the low class in the society but a lot of high class and the respected individual of the society are actually  involved in drug addiction.If a Doctor, an Engineer,....etc. can be involve in drug addiction, such highly place  individuals can use their position and money to achieve the drugs at all cost. Members of the law enforcement may also not be unconnected, if the law and drugs enforcement agencies or forces are determine to clam down on addicts, a lot of breakthrough will definitely be achieved.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: SugoiSenpai on November 13, 2017, 06:45:16 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
In a particular country if drug addiction really is a big problem then the only resort I could think of is violence. Violence decreases the peoples tendency to do drugs because of specific circumstances and laws the government have made. But I guess serving their whole lives in jail is reasonable, this might lead to overpopulation of the prisonhouse.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: diegz on November 13, 2017, 09:16:52 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
In a particular country if drug addiction really is a big problem then the only resort I could think of is violence. Violence decreases the peoples tendency to do drugs because of specific circumstances and laws the government have made. But I guess serving their whole lives in jail is reasonable, this might lead to overpopulation of the prisonhouse.

Too bad that there is no such law to just kill drug addicts like stray dogs/cats in the street. Everyone would consider it as murder and another unsolved crime. It would be another burden and another case to handle for the authorities.

Isolating them in prison I think is a good idea, like putting them in dungeons and just giving them water and food so they won't die. Merging them to other prison might still give them an idea on where to score those drugs.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Sniar on November 13, 2017, 09:45:57 AM
Maybe tighten the punishment for proliferation?


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: moshiul13 on November 13, 2017, 10:31:30 AM
For a drug-free country violence is just a temporary solution. when the drug addicted people will get understand the harmful causes of drugs then they can control themselves. For that government should arrange regular seminar for against of drug.And government should take action against drug seller then almost the country will be drug free.And one last thing police and army have to be very strict against drug seller and drug taker.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Bitcoininspace on November 13, 2017, 10:35:54 AM
Yes and yes. The more drug addicts kill, the more chances for a future healthy nation


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: ydrogios on November 13, 2017, 10:56:48 AM
Depends on a country and what drugs are we talking about
Essentially yes violence is the first step to set an example then regulations come in


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: galvan jean on November 13, 2017, 11:20:41 PM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
Violence is never the key to any country in any way, shape, or form. Violence or even the threat of violence keeps us on edge, our fight-or-flight response is activated consistently and we as humans have no choice but to walk around with this ball of fear or knots in our stomachs. Support should be the answer to drug addiction, an addiction is an altered mindset where you are dependent upon a substance. We are so quick to punish drug addicts but not money addicts who hoard 1% of the entire country's money. Addicts need help not punishment, one becomes defiant under the confines of a society that ridicules them on drugs and even when they make an attempt to get clean. Hugs, love, community, and comfort is what humans crave; drugs take that place.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: mllake2 on November 14, 2017, 12:23:50 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

Any time you want to force someone to do or not to do something, you are calling for force.  Non-compliance implies violence, so there is no non-violent method.   often time it is followed by a lengthy prosecution and long stays in jail.
 it is lose for everyone from the addicts to the taxpayers, but a boon to certain folks in the court/prison/rehab process.  There are many things that are addicting-sugar, cheese, world of warcraft, etc, but people don't usually commit crimes to have those-and it is likely because they are readily available anytime to those who want them relatively inexpensive.

  Aside from where youths are involved, just let people mess up their own lives.  One way or another, the problem will either take care of itself and for all the world to observe how bad drugs are and hopefully avoid them, or the addicts will hit rock bottom and seek out professional help.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: yoseph on November 14, 2017, 12:27:48 AM
Depends on a country and what drugs are we talking about
Essentially yes violence is the first step to set an example then regulations come in
Many countries have tried to eradicate drugs from their country but they haven't been able to do that despite numerous efforts but right now Duterte violence methinks against the drug dealers and cartels seems to be working very effectively.  They should choose between making money or protecting their lives and the chose the later.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: sharm2121 on November 22, 2017, 04:58:16 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

I think give people a better work so that they have a money to buy some foods and other needs. Work also is the better way so that people have things to do, and no have time to push drugs. We need to make people busy sobthey cant think to do bad things.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: RoronoaJorah on November 23, 2017, 12:55:30 AM
Violence against drug related cases will not be totally resolve until someone wants it and until there is manufacturer of shabu and other kinds of drug this is a deep seated situation in bedded in human society.. No man can totallu eradicate it unless they will dicided to it  themselves..it's like addiction they will no leave until you decided to give it up.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: WhoKn0ws on November 23, 2017, 02:12:31 AM
Violence is a byproduct of the drug wars which are waged globally.. Mostly gangs and cartels are the ones who carry out violence apart from your everyday offenders.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: alexpayne on November 23, 2017, 03:36:51 AM
I think violence isn't a key to drug-free country, look at a real example, it's Phillipines , people are murdering without a justice. It's strongly violated to the human rights, people derserved to have mercy.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Sithara007 on November 23, 2017, 05:38:15 AM
For some reason, yes,it is, it can help to strongly stop the drug users.

Only if the cops are not corrupt and if the collateral casualties can be avoided. I have heard about a few instances in which the cops used this opportunity to settle the old scores. They framed fake drug charges on some innocent people and then shot them dead in fake encounters. Such instances bring disrepute to the entire operation.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: xena2 on November 23, 2017, 07:33:05 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
It was not supposed tp be violence.  But in the country like the Philippines,  it maybe the only way to really clean the use of drugs.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Rhaizan on November 23, 2017, 08:42:10 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
It was not supposed tp be violence.  But in the country like the Philippines,  it maybe the only way to really clean the use of drugs.

If the people can not control i think the government no choice but to be a violence, in the first place the people who use drugs know what happen to them if they continue using drugs and if they not stop to become a pusher but still they do. So what the best thing to do? they can not stop their wrong doing.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: alt iubile on November 23, 2017, 11:47:43 AM
Violence is exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse. When we talk about violence i believe that theres no good things when it comes to it. If we talk that violence is really the key to a drug free country you are wrong, because violence is an abuse did so theres no freedom on it. For me the key to drug free is self disipcline.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: charmaine08 on November 23, 2017, 02:54:52 PM
The fight against drug addicts in our country will not lead to successful results, because this is already a well-coordinated business and will not be destroyed. In addition, alcohol and cigarettes are completely legal, although they are no better than drugs.

 Yes  , if you don't do violence in them they won't stop using g drugs .


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: inoymuninoy on November 23, 2017, 03:42:53 PM
Nowadays every hour, crime can occur. So we can't blame government to make a violence against them because if they do not do that many crimes can happen again and many people can be a victim.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: bayupermana on November 23, 2017, 03:46:08 PM
more and more violence happen in a country can make the econmy of that country decrease, making more and more people live in hard time, so they will use drug to satisfy themselves and make the society become worse.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: doothewop on November 23, 2017, 03:52:13 PM
Wow. There are some full-on sociopaths in this thread. Including OP.

No. Violence isn't the answer to anything. Neither is prison.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: andrei214 on November 28, 2017, 10:57:29 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

The problems of drugs in a country isnt easy to solve. But it doesnt mean that we need to use violence to solve a problem cause by another violence.We just need to be more focus on making more heavy punishments and laws.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: mikel00 on November 29, 2017, 07:10:46 AM
i think so if no other choice then go to violence for me i want to drug free country


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: diegz on November 29, 2017, 09:02:24 AM
Snip

The problems of drugs in a country isnt easy to solve. But it doesnt mean that we need to use violence to solve a problem cause by another violence.We just need to be more focus on making more heavy punishments and laws.

Isn't heavy punishment a violence? like putting them to near death situation in the prison?

Once and for all, the authorities should find the source of this drugs and make those pushers suffer. But since most of them are hard to find, or if easy, mostly are untouchable, isn't it just fine to just shoot them and pretend that it was an accident?


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: congresowoman on November 29, 2017, 09:51:12 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
I suggest to bust every bigtime drug syndicates. Ban the entry of every substance linked to making drugs. Punish criminals linked to drugs heavily--no bail and for possible death row. This way, people will be scared to deal with drugs. With this we can rid our society with those non sense drugs.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: nix_7878 on December 01, 2017, 01:20:45 PM
No! violence is not the key to reach a drug-free country, illegal drugs is one of the most problem that a country faced, so its hard find a solution to it so we need a strong law to fight against illegal drugs.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: crazylikeafox on December 01, 2017, 01:26:56 PM
No, Violence isn't the only key.

The only way is cooperation from all citizens of a country and the strict implementation of the law can reduce the proliferation of drugs.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: spongegar on December 13, 2017, 02:24:55 AM
If and only if all peaceful means are done and still not effective then maybe we could consider violence. From the looks of this post, it looks like they're stemming from the politics of the Philippines. But let's see, like in Columbia, they tried to reason with the cartels, made strict laws, involves alot of police officers and even military. What did it do? The cartels and drug dealers fought back, with guns! So much guns that they actually out gunned the military. They only got silence with a show of force


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 13, 2017, 03:51:21 AM
No, Violence isn't the only key.

The only way is cooperation from all citizens of a country and the strict implementation of the law can reduce the proliferation of drugs.

What you will do if the citizens are not cooperating with the authorities? I am not saying that all of them are affiliated to the drug gangs, as many are afraid to do anything against the mafia for the fear of violence and retaliation. The drug dealers understand only one language and that is violence. And you can personally see the results. The drug usage has been reduced, and many of the drug dealers have been eradicated (either killed, detained or deported).


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: West0813 on December 13, 2017, 08:19:09 AM
Governments should hunt the bigtime drug pusher. Not only those who are small time pushers. Because the bigtime pushers have the resources to produce more drugs. And the public should help the authorities to fight drugs. The public can help big in the drug war.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: diegz on December 13, 2017, 09:00:32 AM
Governments should hunt the bigtime drug pusher. Not only those who are small time pushers. Because the bigtime pushers have the resources to produce more drugs. And the public should help the authorities to fight drugs. The public can help big in the drug war.

It's hard, think of them like the queen of ants, you can't touch them without passing thru its soldier ants. Therefore you have no choice but to destroy tear those who bite you so you could get the queen. Same as in drugs, you can't just see the mastermind and if you do, either you are dead or you can't get them since they are protected with not just their own bodyguards, but sometimes their cohorts who are sometimes the authority itself.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: Gintron on December 13, 2017, 09:04:10 AM
No i do not think that violence can solve the drug problem. I think you must educate the kids. They must learn all the consequences for using drugs. Only then maybe the drug rate will fall. In general I think that a drug free county will never exist.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: darklus123 on December 13, 2017, 09:37:10 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

I believe that there are only two factors why people are getting involved with drugs. One, the obvious reason for being involved with drugs is depression and it's either depressed person gets aalcoholic or drug addict. Second would be the poverty. In some countries in which finding an income is so hard, people just risking their lives selling drugs which is eventually can also turns them into being a drug addict. Now depression and poverty can be solved not by violence but love


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: @matthew17 on December 17, 2017, 11:02:46 PM
In my country violence for the drug free country was indicated . Even were not supporting that campaign what we can do ? Government has the power to implemented that .


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: bondagefairy on December 19, 2017, 01:34:24 PM
No it's the key to a drug-free country. You should shut down all the cartels by using the law not violence.


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: youarehere on December 21, 2017, 06:56:39 AM
i think so because the drug addict will not hesitate to kill they dont want to jailed or catch


Title: Re: Is violence really the key to a drug-free country?
Post by: mydreamforever on December 21, 2017, 07:33:44 AM
Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?
It's difficult to solve this matter , my country mostly resort to violence to deal with it .
make them sports addiction, is it effective?