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Title: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: ViceOfBTC21 on July 01, 2017, 10:53:56 AM
Read about this here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca)
Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: Lionidas on July 01, 2017, 12:47:06 PM
Almost half of Poles are gamblers. Today (July 1) will lock foreign gambling websites

Saturday, July 1 (6:00)

Poles do not avoid risk in the hope of winning. For such applications tend surveys. According to CBOS, last year, nearly half of Poles (49 percent). Participated in gambling. Today (July 1) will lock foreign gambling websites (due to the new gambling law).

Gambling throws into debt.  Nearly half of Poles admit to playing
Gambling throws into debt. Nearly half of Poles admit to playing / © Glowimages

Poles is widespread belief in the possible improvements of their own destiny by winning large sums of money. Eager to participate in sweepstakes and equally often we become partakers of gambling, including those on the Internet.

He has already entered into force new lawgambling, including having Poles restrict access to foreign companies and illegal gambling. Since July 1, websites with domain registry inconsistent with the Act will be blocked by Internet service providers (for users with Polish IP). The introduction of the Act is to reduce the number of gambling addicts Poles, which is now more than 1.5 million.

The severity of gambling control. Checked more than 3 thousand. premises
Officers of the National Fiscal Administration, together with police officers carried out a massive operation control of the premises in which gambling were arranged. They reached 3 thousand. premises, stopped 450 slot machines - said the Ministry of Finance. more "

It is worth quoting the results of CBOS survey. Last year, as many as 49 per cent. Poles participated in gambling for money. Among them, more than half of the gamblers are men (55 percent.). Most often they play people aged 35 to 44 years, and the youngest Poles - from 18 to 24 years.

According to experts, it is difficult at the moment to assess how effective the new law will affect the players, but certainly a large part of them will still be playing - legally or not. Last year, the Poles seemed gambling an average of 223 zł, winning at the average approx. 103 zł, ie by more than half less than the put. Debt resulting from the losers plants can be enormous, and their repayment problematic.

Gamblers becoming a problem for the near family . - Debt gamblers can not think ahead. Most often they borrow in many banks and lending institutions, taking chwilówki a smaller amount. Try to pay off credit loan, which puts them in a spiraldebt . Sometimes we do not take these loans only for the repayment of debt, but in order to continue the game - says Aneta Kaminska-Kocot of BEST SA - the company managing the debts.

There is no doubt that the addicted gambler complicated not only his life but also has an impact on the financial condition of his family. Debt have to repay a huge sum - commitment some players reach even the equivalent of an apartment in the capital. It happens that the wife gamblers take on loans, trying to pay the debts of their husbands, and in the case of the player's death his children can inherit outstanding obligations.

Gamblers will have to be more careful than ever, since, according to the new regulations shall be punished not only those who conduct gambling activities (eg. living room with slot machines), but also the player who uses the services of the living room, having no license or acting illegally.

With the introduction of the new law gambling casino games supported by created for this purpose state company - Totalizator Sportowy SA has also prepared a register Internet domain names do not comply with the new law - those that do not have a Polish license and all foreign poker rooms and casinos. Most of the most popular foreign sites betting bookmakers decided to completely withdraw from the Polish market. (Js)

The register of banned sites you can check out www.hazard.mf.gov.pl.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: South Park on July 01, 2017, 10:41:43 PM
Read about this here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca)
Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we want to use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
This is good news for us, now polish gamblers will have to use other means to gamble online, and the best alternative is bitcoin, no doubt about that, anyone that is mildly informed about technology can devise a way to avoid those blocks, it seems governments don’t understand the day when they could control access to information are long gone but let them try.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: marlboroza on July 01, 2017, 10:49:18 PM
Who cares about illegal fiat gambling sites anyway.
Majority of gamblers from bitcointalk are gambling in bitcoin gambling sites.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: Lionidas on July 01, 2017, 11:36:41 PM
Fiat book or gambling site's rules are starting to trickle down to bitcoin related gambling sites.
So it is important to follow what is happening to this industry in other countries.

No need to be blind or narrow minded top what is going on in an industry that is just operating the exactly same way just with different form of payment then bitcoin casinos do. ::)


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: LTU_btc on July 02, 2017, 12:01:22 AM
Exact same blocking happened in my country last year, government started to block sites, which aren't registered in our country. But it's easy to bypass, we only have to change DNS settings. Also, gambling sites started to create alternative domains which aren't blocked.
But these blockings had small impact. Few sportsbooks started to not accept customers from my country and closed accounts for these who had it previously.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: MinerHQ on July 02, 2017, 12:32:44 AM
Who cares about illegal fiat gambling sites anyway.
Majority of gamblers from bitcointalk are gambling in bitcoin gambling sites.

I think still there are plenty of people who gamble only with fiat currency and not every gambler knows about bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies. But when like this happen in any country then most of the people will look for alternatives and can find out about bitcoins. It will indirectly help to grow bitcoin demand.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: masterzino on July 02, 2017, 01:43:32 AM
Who cares about illegal fiat gambling sites anyway.
Majority of gamblers from bitcointalk are gambling in bitcoin gambling sites.

Actually I know a lot of people who are trying crypto gambling, but still stand to fiat.

We have a similar situation in Bulgaria 3y ago, but in reality nothing changed for those whom betting was a lifestyle. Yes, maybe few VPN and so on come in line, but nothing seriously. For crypto and fiat betting. Now the situation is that there are 4 legal /licensed/ fiat bookie and by law all others ate illegal. But nobody cares.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: AmoreJaz on July 02, 2017, 03:45:59 AM
the more a government tries to restrict is population into a government run lifestyle= the more people will find a way to surpass those restrictions
this is a small win for crypto but a very small setback for poland


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: moooonu on July 02, 2017, 03:57:10 AM
Was going through news about cryptocurrencies yesterday and heard that a bitcoin exchange gone down and its owner sentenced to 5 and half years jail for laundering money. Many ransomware software use the address from the exchange. The site was taken down by US govt. and owner is in prison now.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: TheCoinFinder on July 02, 2017, 04:02:13 AM
Actually your government can't  retard gamblers to  visit websites which offer gambling.
There may be various mediams to bypass restrictions. If government bams whole internet in the country, then it is obviously possible for them to stop gambling


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: ViceOfBTC21 on July 03, 2017, 11:11:35 AM
Actually your government can't  retard gamblers to  visit websites which offer gambling.
There may be various mediams to bypass restrictions. If government bams whole internet in the country, then it is obviously possible for them to stop gambling

I'm not fiat gambler, but I bypassed these restrictions under 15 seconds without VPN's, proxies but changing ISP DNS to other DNS. Now I know why my ISP blocked changing DNS directly on ISP router and I need to set Google DNS manually on every device at home. They knew what they were doing.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: tyz on July 03, 2017, 11:42:57 AM
Who cares about illegal fiat gambling sites anyway.
Majority of gamblers from bitcointalk are gambling in bitcoin gambling sites.

I see the same. Actually, it is good for Bitcoin casinos. Many of the gamblers which previously played on the closed fiat casinos will be looking for alternatives and a part of them will certainly get to Bitcoin casinos. On the other side, this could lead to higher pressure from authorities on Bitcoin casinos long term.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: piloder on July 03, 2017, 02:24:36 PM
Fiat based gambling sites are easier to track down and government will always keep monitoring their activity, this is why privacy lovers like us love to bet in bitcoin based casinos to enjoy gambling without giving away any of our personal details and without any restriction based on our country of origin and age.  ;D


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: Barcode_ on July 03, 2017, 02:55:06 PM
There is no way the government can stop people from gambling online totally, because they can easily use VPN service to access blocked sites on the list, and with crypto-currency gambling sites so easily accessible with just a click on the internet, people can just easily exchange their fiat money into crypto-currency and gamble with it.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: bering on July 03, 2017, 03:05:19 PM
the gamblers is still the gamblers although gambling is prohibited but they always be looking another way to satisfied their hobbies but with these news i think will makes bitcoin gambling sites getting popular in that country because maybe people at there will considering to gamble use bitcoin instead of fiat gambling


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: johnwest on July 03, 2017, 04:42:43 PM
I think it will be a good time to advertise Bitcoin and crypto gambling sites in Poland as the population of gamblers is high in Poland. Though I doubt people will try to understand a whole new system to gamble, Poland's gamblers are crazy so anything is possible.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: FrueGreads on July 03, 2017, 05:28:39 PM
Read about this here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca)
Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we want to use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.

I don't think anyone should try to bypass this. The house could just ask for ID verification, and you will lose your funds. This is a big problem for fiat gambling, and it's one of the reasons BTC will continue incredibly popular for gamblers, since they should be able to gamble in most BTC gambling sites.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: veleten on July 03, 2017, 07:28:25 PM
Who cares about illegal fiat gambling sites anyway.
Majority of gamblers from bitcointalk are gambling in bitcoin gambling sites.

poles care :)
but in all seriousness:if you have two competing services,for example
and one of the services gets banned or goes bankrupt,the second one is going to flourish,no?
same happens here,polish goverment will make it more difficult for poles to reach fiat gambling sites
some of them will start looking for other means to fuel their gambling addiction
and end up gambling with bitcoins,purchase more cryptocurrency and so on=good for bitcoin and adoption


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on July 03, 2017, 07:41:08 PM
but in all seriousness:if you have two competing services,for example
and one of the services gets banned or goes bankrupt,the second one is going to flourish,no?
same happens here,polish goverment will make it more difficult for poles to reach fiat gambling sites
some of them will start looking for other means to fuel their gambling addiction
and end up gambling with bitcoins,purchase more cryptocurrency and so on=good for bitcoin and adoption
I am not certain about the status of gamblers from Poland but i think majority of the countries does not have a strict rule regarding online gambling but majority of them bans them but people are using it anyway using VPN and lets see whether these fiat gamblers will come to crypto based gambling sites.I personally came to bitcoin based gambling sites because the bank statement shows that i am depositing money in gambling sites and to avoid those i started bitcoin based gambling sites.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: Slark on July 03, 2017, 09:01:07 PM
No government can block gambling sites registered abroad and not something as elusive as bitcoin gambling services.
Who cares about illegal FIAT gambling services? They are easily tracked/blocked/banned because regulated payment operators need to comply with every official regulation.
Bitcoin cannot be controlled and is resistant to any form of censorship of attempt of a ban.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: ViceOfBTC21 on July 03, 2017, 09:11:33 PM
Poles can do anything and bypass it:
https://translate.google.pl/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=hazard.cba.pl (https://translate.google.pl/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=hazard.cba.pl)
Original:
http://hazard.cba.pl (http://hazard.cba.pl)
They mention about gambling with bitcoin.
Though R.I.P. online fiat gambling 1996-2012.
Satoshidice killed it.
I'm too from Poland.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: Pattberry on July 03, 2017, 09:45:25 PM
No government can block gambling sites registered abroad and not something as elusive as bitcoin gambling services.
Who cares about illegal FIAT gambling services? They are easily tracked/blocked/banned because regulated payment operators need to comply with every official regulation.
Bitcoin cannot be controlled and is resistant to any form of censorship of attempt of a ban.
Even if you are using illegal fiat gambling sites you are not depositing your money directly using your credit card,you might use virtual cards to deposit your money and government cannot monitor those deposits too,they could block the websites and that is the best they can do.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: ShodanEnkidu on July 04, 2017, 06:02:43 AM
Foreign fiat gamblin sites are illegal also in Hungary. Recently 1 Hungarian opened which is legal, but thats all.
Slot machines in bars are also illegal. And almost all of the casino places are closed.
There is only two person in Hungary who are allowed to run casinos.
Fortunately, we can still play in bitcoin casinos :)


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: South Park on July 04, 2017, 04:52:00 PM
Who cares about illegal fiat gambling sites anyway.
Majority of gamblers from bitcointalk are gambling in bitcoin gambling sites.
We care because those gamblers can become part of bitcoin if they are informed that something way better exists, that is why, gambling is one of those venues where bitcoin fits perfectly, you get cheap enough transfers, the transfers are quicker than the bank transfers and you don’t need to identify yourself because bitcoin casinos don’t care about your identity.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: adaseb on July 04, 2017, 06:30:28 PM
This is nothing new. Basically this wasn't an issue before because Bitcoin looked like it almost failed back in 2015 so many government just ignored it. Now however its gaining more and more popularity and more interest so government are finally starting to regulate different aspects of it.

In 5 years most first world nations will regulate most aspects of Bitcoin including the gambling part.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: mostkey on July 05, 2017, 01:05:36 AM
This is always the case in some parts of the country, the gambling sites that are blocked. because are much gambled using the country's currency, because local currency is usually the trigger for the increasing number of gambling site blocking, but the use of anonymous account may be one option To stay in gambling.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: kodes88 on July 05, 2017, 01:54:06 AM
Read about this here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca)
Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we want to use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
This is good news for us, now polish gamblers will have to use other means to gamble online, and the best alternative is bitcoin, no doubt about that, anyone that is mildly informed about technology can devise a way to avoid those blocks, it seems governments don’t understand the day when they could control access to information are long gone but let them try.
agree with this,but in other sice,this also can be a warning for bitcoin,seems like polan will fight again gambling,and they start from fiat gambling,i just think that if bitcoin used in poland for gambling,they will block bitcoin gambling site too. even it can be bypass with other ip,but its not an advantage of course.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: ultrloa on July 05, 2017, 03:10:25 AM
Read about this here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca)
Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we want to use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
This is good news for us, now polish gamblers will have to use other means to gamble online, and the best alternative is bitcoin, no doubt about that, anyone that is mildly informed about technology can devise a way to avoid those blocks, it seems governments don’t understand the day when they could control access to information are long gone but let them try.
agree with this,but in other sice,this also can be a warning for bitcoin,seems like polan will fight again gambling,and they start from fiat gambling,i just think that if bitcoin used in poland for gambling,they will block bitcoin gambling site too. even it can be bypass with other ip,but its not an advantage of course.

I've never get any worried for blocking bitcoins casino's from operating since first of all where anonymous here and who will be chase out if they can't track us out here? No right so aslong as our Identity nor the operators Identity hidden bitcoins casino's state will be alright.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: iram3130 on July 05, 2017, 04:08:15 PM
Read about this here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca)
Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we want to use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
This is good news for us, now polish gamblers will have to use other means to gamble online, and the best alternative is bitcoin, no doubt about that, anyone that is mildly informed about technology can devise a way to avoid those blocks, it seems governments don’t understand the day when they could control access to information are long gone but let them try.
agree with this,but in other sice,this also can be a warning for bitcoin,seems like polan will fight again gambling,and they start from fiat gambling,i just think that if bitcoin used in poland for gambling,they will block bitcoin gambling site too. even it can be bypass with other ip,but its not an advantage of course.

I've never get any worried for blocking bitcoins casino's from operating since first of all where anonymous here and who will be chase out if they can't track us out here? No right so aslong as our Identity nor the operators Identity hidden bitcoins casino's state will be alright.

It's too hard to target someone through cryptocurrencies and it'll be harder if the person is sitting in the other side of the world. No one can guess exactly in which country you are. The anonymity is boon for everyone in the bitcoin universe.
I think it'll be better for Polish gamblers to turn towards crypto gambling sites.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: South Park on July 05, 2017, 10:07:43 PM
This is nothing new. Basically this wasn't an issue before because Bitcoin looked like it almost failed back in 2015 so many government just ignored it. Now however its gaining more and more popularity and more interest so government are finally starting to regulate different aspects of it.

In 5 years most first world nations will regulate most aspects of Bitcoin including the gambling part.
Governments can try to regulate bitcoin it is another thing altogether to become successful at it, just look at the war on drugs, more money, technology and effort has been dedicated to this, and governments are not even close to win the war on drugs, in fact if I were to guess who is going to win in the end, I think the will of the criminal will impose itself and illegal drugs will become legal.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: sana54210 on July 06, 2017, 07:59:08 PM
Read about this here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca)
Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we want to use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
This is good news for us, now polish gamblers will have to use other means to gamble online, and the best alternative is bitcoin, no doubt about that, anyone that is mildly informed about technology can devise a way to avoid those blocks, it seems governments don’t understand the day when they could control access to information are long gone but let them try.
agree with this,but in other sice,this also can be a warning for bitcoin,seems like polan will fight again gambling,and they start from fiat gambling,i just think that if bitcoin used in poland for gambling,they will block bitcoin gambling site too. even it can be bypass with other ip,but its not an advantage of course.
Blocking fiat gambling is easy as its regulated payments can be tracked to users and it’s not very anonymous. Almost everyone prefers bitcoin gambling over fiat gambling when gambling online, because obviously bitcoin is the best way to do it.

Bitcoin gambling is not traceable so it is kind of impossible to shut it down, it is more secure and the best thing which many people prefer that there are less fees compared to any other type of gambling online. If we started listing advantages of using bitcoins, the list would not.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: coolcoinz on July 06, 2017, 08:07:07 PM
This is nothing new. Basically this wasn't an issue before because Bitcoin looked like it almost failed back in 2015 so many government just ignored it. Now however its gaining more and more popularity and more interest so government are finally starting to regulate different aspects of it.

In 5 years most first world nations will regulate most aspects of Bitcoin including the gambling part.
They aren't blocking Bitcoin sites or Bitcoin casinos, they are blocking unregistered gambling sites, most likely to protect the citizens (gamblers). Many of those unregistered sites were scams that people were losing money on, or sites that weren't secure. I wouldn't like my personal data, bank account number and such to be sold to hackers by one of such illegal sites, so I like what Polish government is doing.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: iluvbitcoins on July 07, 2017, 01:13:18 AM
This is nothing new. Basically this wasn't an issue before because Bitcoin looked like it almost failed back in 2015 so many government just ignored it. Now however its gaining more and more popularity and more interest so government are finally starting to regulate different aspects of it.

In 5 years most first world nations will regulate most aspects of Bitcoin including the gambling part.
They aren't blocking Bitcoin sites or Bitcoin casinos, they are blocking unregistered gambling sites, most likely to protect the citizens (gamblers). Many of those unregistered sites were scams that people were losing money on, or sites that weren't secure. I wouldn't like my personal data, bank account number and such to be sold to hackers by one of such illegal sites, so I like what Polish government is doing.

Nice!
Thanks for the clarification, it was obviously necessary, we were going all out with Poland bad :D
That's a good thing basically, but even if legit FIAT casinos were banned it would be esentially good for bitcoin.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: milewilda on July 07, 2017, 02:00:09 AM
Read about this here:
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Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
If its block already then expect for those fiat gambler would really find another options which bitcoin would be the nearest one seeing that its very easy to use and you can able to hide yourself specially if its already prohibited on your country since we know bitcoin do gives anonymity to its users and cant be traced so easily that you are still playing gambling inspite of imposed restriction rules.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: Caladonian on July 07, 2017, 02:54:16 AM
Read about this here:
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Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
If its block already then expect for those fiat gambler would really find another options which bitcoin would be the nearest one seeing that its very easy to use and you can able to hide yourself specially if its already prohibited on your country since we know bitcoin do gives anonymity to its users and cant be traced so easily that you are still playing gambling inspite of imposed restriction rules.
Well if bitcoin casino is not block to your country so its yes after this happen for sure most of those gamblers will go all in and that will also bring some good hype as we knew poland is also a well known country.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: serjent05 on July 07, 2017, 03:31:36 AM
Who cares about illegal fiat gambling sites anyway.
Majority of gamblers from bitcointalk are gambling in bitcoin gambling sites.

I agree though this will be a good news for bitcoin community since these people that used to gamble with fiat gambling will have to diversify and one option is using Bitcoin or other anon crypto currency.  This means that there will be more people getting involved in gambling using cryptocurrency.  It will bring demand and a possible increase on whatever cryptocurrency they decided to use.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: bajing on July 07, 2017, 04:00:55 AM
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Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
In my opinion this is not new news because not all countries allow gambling sites. although this today easy for us to find online gambling sites but almost all gambling site is illegal. Honestly I do not have a think they will accept bitcoin because I'm sure they already know bitcoin gambling is growing.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: michkima on July 07, 2017, 05:06:46 AM
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Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
In my opinion this is not new news because not all countries allow gambling sites. although this today easy for us to find online gambling sites but almost all gambling site is illegal. Honestly I do not have a think they will accept bitcoin because I'm sure they already know bitcoin gambling is growing.

All countries ban illegal gambling sites. Period!

Not sure even why this is news anywhere that would interest people. If a gambling site is not regulated by the government of the country where it operates, expect it to be closed down. All countries regulate gambling sites as this is a matter of public security and well fair.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: LuanX3 on July 07, 2017, 10:38:02 AM
Read about this here:
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Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
In my opinion this is not new news because not all countries allow gambling sites. although this today easy for us to find online gambling sites but almost all gambling site is illegal. Honestly I do not have a think they will accept bitcoin because I'm sure they already know bitcoin gambling is growing.

All countries ban illegal gambling sites. Period!

Not sure even why this is news anywhere that would interest people. If a gambling site is not regulated by the government of the country where it operates, expect it to be closed down. All countries regulate gambling sites as this is a matter of public security and well fair.

I agree, there are quite a lot of regulation on gambling sites in most jurisdictions even the US has a strict gambling law and the US has one of the largest gambling industry in the world. Also, this regulations are for the protection of the players since it could end up that the casino might be a scam and just run away with their money.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: audaciousbeing on July 07, 2017, 11:31:06 AM
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Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we want to use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.
This is good news for us, now polish gamblers will have to use other means to gamble online, and the best alternative is bitcoin, no doubt about that, anyone that is mildly informed about technology can devise a way to avoid those blocks, it seems governments don’t understand the day when they could control access to information are long gone but let them try.

What the government don't understand is that you can only stop an unwilling person the moment they stop people from playing outrightly, what they do is find alternative ways to make it happen and in this case, bitcoin comes handy where there are several sites that even what it being offered by their fiat counterparts even with much more anonymity. What they should have done is to make the environment difficult that its either going to be few gambling sites left or only few people while others stops willingly.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: bitcoinmaster44 on July 07, 2017, 12:07:59 PM
Try it with bitcoin betting websites


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: peter0425 on July 07, 2017, 02:47:09 PM
Try it with bitcoin betting websites

I guess Polish have no other route but go bitcoin. We all know that bitcoin is pseudo anonymous and no personal information is needed to be able to play. Or they can even use VPN services to play. I think bitcoin will boom in Poland, but I don't know if government will need to regulate it or even embraced it. I hope the Polish government is very open regarding bitcoin used.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: KennyR on July 07, 2017, 05:12:46 PM
Try it with bitcoin betting websites

I guess Polish have no other route but go bitcoin. We all know that bitcoin is pseudo anonymous and no personal information is needed to be able to play. Or they can even use VPN services to play. I think bitcoin will boom in Poland, but I don't know if government will need to regulate it or even embraced it. I hope the Polish government is very open regarding bitcoin used.
If the government is open to bitcoin, then it's a good news for the countrymen as well the people around the globe who are all using bitcoin. Now they have blocked gambling sites functioning with fiat, so in similar way they too might oppose bitcoin used gambling websites too. I think government is with plans of vanishing the entire gambling industry from the country.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: Hydrogen on July 07, 2017, 07:02:41 PM
FanDuel, DraftKings and similar fantasy sports websites are illegal in some US states. There has also been a push in the US to crackdown on poker and sports betting online. I think most of that comes from Las Vegas casinos who desire a monopoly over the gambling/sports betting industry flexing their political influence to get it.

Europe, asia and the rest of the world tend to be more permissive.

Not certain on the motivation behind Poland blocking fiat sites. It could be a de-dollarization strategy. Preventive measures to protect their economy against a potential fiat crash.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: ViceOfBTC21 on July 08, 2017, 10:25:27 PM
Try it with bitcoin betting websites

I guess Polish have no other route but go bitcoin. We all know that bitcoin is pseudo anonymous and no personal information is needed to be able to play. Or they can even use VPN services to play. I think bitcoin will boom in Poland, but I don't know if government will need to regulate it or even embraced it. I hope the Polish government is very open regarding bitcoin used.
CS:GO gambling sites are other choice. See http://izicase.pl (http://izicase.pl). They can do bank deposit at IZIcase and open CS:GO cases. IZIcase is really popular in Poland.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: Nahl on July 09, 2017, 12:02:08 PM
blocked 1 sites but appeared 2 new gambling sites i think Poland government have to working more hard because gambling as the hobbies of many people although it's illegal but most people will not care and still want to figure out and visiting gambling sites and playing at there


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: Juggy777 on July 09, 2017, 12:26:35 PM
Read about this here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A//biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca)
Original in Polish Language:
http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536 (http://biznes.interia.pl/finanse-osobiste/news/prawie-polowa-polakow-to-hazardzisci-dzisiaj-1-lipca,2526849,4141#pst134689536)
Luckily, this is easy to bypass using just DNS other than ISP one. But we, bitcoiners, we use Bitcoin instead of fiat to gamble with.

Hahaha this was about time and it was about to happen nothing surprising in this, Fiat is running out of its utility, Bitcoin is the only currency worth having and fiat is banned, cause it's easy to trace with and someone must have reported of some illegal activity and this shall only boost Bitcoins. It's in fact good for Bitcoins.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: NorrisK on July 09, 2017, 02:49:29 PM
The keyword is blocking illegal gambling sites. As long as they comply to regulations there is nothing wrong.

Next step is them hunting down bitcoin gambling sites.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on July 09, 2017, 04:36:25 PM
If 49% of the population plays gambling a certain block of all illegal fiat gambling websites will not work. Even if only 3-5% of these gamblers knows how to bypass this limit from the government through TOR and VPN-s, pretty soon all the remaining population will start using these tools. And as far as I know TOR cannot be blocked.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: swogerino on July 09, 2017, 04:41:55 PM
The keyword is blocking illegal gambling sites. As long as they comply to regulations there is nothing wrong.

Next step is them hunting down bitcoin gambling sites.

All the big governments in the world are fighting hard to block or discredit bitcoin and they are not succeeding at it. Do you think that they can shut down bitcoin gambling sites ? I don't think they can. Many people already know how to bypass limitation by governments.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: JL421 on July 09, 2017, 05:38:03 PM
Why just block they should have shut them down as vpn still works for most of the blocked sites. But the part i noticed here was they blocked fiat gambling site which means it opens up the door for bitcoin to shine more as it would allow people to gamble and even hide them from their government


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: pixie85 on July 09, 2017, 07:08:10 PM
Why just block they should have shut them down as vpn still works for most of the blocked sites. But the part i noticed here was they blocked fiat gambling site which means it opens up the door for bitcoin to shine more as it would allow people to gamble and even hide them from their government
It's not that easy to shut a site down. We are talking about sites that usually don't use local servers, but are hosted abroad. They'd have to formally complain to their ISP, but that still wouldn't shut them down as they can get a new ISP. It's fighting windmills so they chose the easiest way.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: HanSchultz on July 09, 2017, 11:47:38 PM
blocked 1 sites but appeared 2 new gambling sites i think Poland government have to working more hard because gambling as the hobbies of many people although it's illegal but most people will not care and still want to figure out and visiting gambling sites and playing at there
The problems becomes if you are making a bit of money from the site then there is a possibility that they could hold your funds and never pay you citing that you are not allowed to gamble from that particular country and i have seen sites pulling these kind of things to the players ,so i would think twice how they will be solving the issues if the case arises and then make my move to gamble with that site.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: mrcash02 on July 10, 2017, 12:11:36 AM
blocked 1 sites but appeared 2 new gambling sites i think Poland government have to working more hard because gambling as the hobbies of many people although it's illegal but most people will not care and still want to figure out and visiting gambling sites and playing at there
The problems becomes if you are making a bit of money from the site then there is a possibility that they could hold your funds and never pay you citing that you are not allowed to gamble from that particular country and i have seen sites pulling these kind of things to the players ,so i would think twice how they will be solving the issues if the case arises and then make my move to gamble with that site.

Trusted sites dealing with Crypto-Currency won't steal its users (at least there are a big chance they won't), if you worry about it you can just withdraw the money everytime you gamble. Much better to gamble online with Crypto-Currency only.

It's not a surprise a country blocks illegal fiat gambling sites. They send people who gamble with fiat online to the jail too in some countries, they can track it very easily by the credit card.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: megynacuna on July 10, 2017, 01:07:05 PM
Why just block they should have shut them down as vpn still works for most of the blocked sites. But the part i noticed here was they blocked fiat gambling site which means it opens up the door for bitcoin to shine more as it would allow people to gamble and even hide them from their government

 Exactly, there are always ways around some of the stringent laws these governments pass and I know vpn will definitely bypass their government firewalls. Instead of these fiat gambling websites I will advice that people that find themselves in this situation should rather use cryptocurrency gambling websites because these kinds are not censored by the governments.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: ViceOfBTC21 on July 14, 2017, 10:03:59 AM
Primedice need to translate their site to Polish. Or I will open this one dice game.
I already opened but it failed since I used Betbase.io API. No one gambles on these pseudo-gambling websites.


Title: Re: [BREAKING NEWS] Poland blocks illegal fiat gambling sites.
Post by: shintosai on July 14, 2017, 10:40:05 AM
Primedice need to translate their site to Polish. Or I will open this one dice game.
I already opened but it failed since I used Betbase.io API. No one gambles on these pseudo-gambling websites.
they should take this into considerations since they can gain a lots after this news people who loves to gamble from that place will turned into bitcoin
casino's and primedice can be a good alternatives let see if they will do some actions, just looking forward to see if this will also help bitcoin to be  more
popular.