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Title: More child boards...
Post by: EngMan on May 09, 2013, 02:16:38 AM
I think we should add some child boards to the Alt currencies board....definitely an LTC one and maybe a Brand New coin one. Even though this is Bitcointalk..... all lot of us here are interested in other coins and the Alt board is a mess.

Edit: autocorrect typo fixed.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: iamrickrock on May 09, 2013, 02:27:22 AM
Edit: OP fixed


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: Joerii on May 09, 2013, 02:32:52 AM
I think we should add some child boards to the Alt currencies board....definitely an LTC one and maybe a Brand New coin one. Even though this is butalbital.... all lot of us here are interested in other coins and the Alt board is a mess.

Great idea, we really need this. This board is just to small, stuff moves away to pages 2 and up way to fast.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: Dreamweaver on May 09, 2013, 02:41:56 AM
True that. I was thinking there should be child boards named after the categories in xorxor's "List of all cryptocoins" sticky, plus a "New" or "Announcements" childboard for new crytptocurrencies to be announced. It'd really take away the clutter. Maybe each childboard could have stickies linking to all the google doc/"official" exchanges and pools out there. Id have a field day organizing all this stuff :P


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: Joerii on May 09, 2013, 02:43:02 AM
True that. I was thinking there should be child boards named after the categories in xorxor's "List of all cryptocoins" sticky, plus a "New" or "Announcements" childboard for new crytptocurrencies to be announced. It'd really take away the clutter. Maybe each childboard could have stickies linking to all the google doc/"official" exchanges and pools out there. Id have a field day organizing all this stuff :P

+1 Mods, ill send SaltySpitoon a PM just in case he missed this thread.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: cdog on May 09, 2013, 02:43:50 AM
Agreed, this board is so cluttered in the last month its almost impossible to read. Its really a disaster now.

It needs a LTC child board, one for other established alternate cryptos like PPC, NMC and TRC, and a New Alt Coins board...


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: KrLos on May 09, 2013, 02:44:40 AM
+1



Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: Peleus on May 09, 2013, 02:50:23 AM
Honestly I don't think we need child boards for each currency, as it would just get diluted to far and less useful.

Keep alt-coins the same as it is, but make a specific trading child forum where any buying / selling takes place. They are the high turnover posts that can sometimes clutter up the forum.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: mg27341 on May 09, 2013, 03:09:24 AM
Honestly I don't think we need child boards for each currency, as it would just get diluted to far and less useful.

Keep alt-coins the same as it is, but make a specific trading child forum where any buying / selling takes place. They are the high turnover posts that can sometimes clutter up the forum.

+2


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: Bicknellski on May 09, 2013, 03:43:24 AM
Either that or we all should get a new forum... Altcointalk as they seem less than responsive to this suggestion. It has been made many times. I think your market cap or total hash should be the metric. When you reach X hash/s then your coin gets a child board.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: maunderingcabal on May 09, 2013, 03:50:44 AM
I have asked for the same thing and contributed to many further posts asking for child boards... the mods don't care and never will.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: CoinHoarder on May 09, 2013, 03:54:22 AM
I have asked for the same thing and contributed to many further posts asking for child boards... the mods don't care and never will.

+1


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: gabbynot on May 09, 2013, 04:02:41 AM
I have asked for the same thing and contributed to many further posts asking for child boards... the mods don't care and never will.

Maybe because this is bitcointalk.org?  Everyone should be happy there's even an alt subforum at all.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: hellscabane on May 09, 2013, 04:11:22 AM
Honestly I don't think we need child boards for each currency, as it would just get diluted to far and less useful.

Keep alt-coins the same as it is, but make a specific trading child forum where any buying / selling takes place. They are the high turnover posts that can sometimes clutter up the forum.

+2


Same here, I agree with this.  Or something for the more prevalent coins.  But then again, this is a Bitcoin Forum...


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: claycoins on May 09, 2013, 04:16:17 AM
Honestly I don't think we need child boards for each currency, as it would just get diluted to far and less useful.

Keep alt-coins the same as it is, but make a specific trading child forum where any buying / selling takes place. They are the high turnover posts that can sometimes clutter up the forum.

+2


Same here, I agree with this.  Or something for the more prevalent coins.  But then again, this is a Bitcoin Forum...

I agree


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: BBQKorv on May 09, 2013, 07:51:42 AM
+1

And more moderators to fight the scammers and to clean this forum up!


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: Zaih on May 09, 2013, 08:04:22 AM
Yeh definitely. This is a massive clusterf**k at the moment.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: SaltySpitoon on May 09, 2013, 04:32:40 PM
I asked about adding child boards a while ago, the answer was no. The reasoning being, this is a Bitcoin forum. The fact that altcoins are even allowed to post here is a formality really. The forums don't want to get too involved in alt coins, besides moving alt currency chatter that would be spam to its own section.

+1

And more moderators to fight the scammers and to clean this forum up!

The problem right now lies with all of the new currencies "spamming" the board. A lot of people find them offensive or a scam, but the problem is, there is no definition of what is a "scam" coin, so the moderation staff (myself included) can do very little about all of the new coins.

And, not to mention, the forum staff doesn't hunt scammers. Its up for the users to find scammers, and then provide the case in the Scam Accusation section of the Trading board.

If anyone can think of a solution, I'm sure everyone would be glad to hear.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: Tobius on May 09, 2013, 04:36:23 PM
Very true, this board is a complete mess.

What would be nice is a sub forum for all of the Major/Minor coins listed, and a new board for all of these clones


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: Singlebyte on May 09, 2013, 04:46:59 PM
+1


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: frobley on May 09, 2013, 05:15:31 PM
+1 needs child boards in alts for recognised alts


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: SaltySpitoon on May 09, 2013, 05:20:33 PM
So you mean, allowing no one to post in the alt currencies section besides the official coin release which redirects them to the coin specific forum? That is and idea, not many would like it I don't think, but it definitely is an idea, if not a last resort type.

+1 needs child boards in alts for recognised alts

Who decides what the recognized alts are? And what is the definition of a recognized alt?


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: mc_lovin on May 09, 2013, 05:26:06 PM
This board needs to be a complete mess.  That's the only way it will stay calm and peaceful like it is.  If you create a sub-board for Namecoin and Litecoin, then you'll have to create boards for Feathercoin, Junkcoin, might as well do Solidcoin, and the other 20 different coins that came out this month.  There would be no end.  A new coin every day = new board every day, not going to happen on bitcointalk.  On Bitcoin Trading (http://www.bitcointrading.com/) I do exactly that: create subsections for all new altcoins, but even I have to admit.. It's a pain to have to add new sections every day. 


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: NamLaLai on May 09, 2013, 05:33:16 PM
Would it be possible to give each coin a single tag/code and the user could choose to ignore/not see certain tags, like you can ignore other posters? General messages and languages could have tags too. On the 'frontpage' one would be able to select and save (+ quickly change) preferences, only see what one is interested in...
When starting a new thread, people would have to choose a tag from the pool. Something like this:

000 | Message from the Admin (always present)
001 | Bitcoin
002 | Litecoin
003 | Whatevercoin 1
004 | Whatevercoin 2
etc., etc.
020 | Russian
021 | Chinese
etc., etc.

Example: Enable tag '001', '004', '020' etc. and all you would see is general messages from the admin/moderator, threads about Bitcoin, Whatevercoin 2 and Russian ones, nothing else.... until you select more tags.



Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: Unthinkingbit on May 09, 2013, 05:49:31 PM
How about allowing one and only one thread for each altcoin, and that thread being the official altcoin announcement?

I like the idea, it's all that's needed to see the most popular coins. The top page of each altcoin thread should have links to all the related threads anyways.

So you mean, allowing no one to post in the alt currencies section besides the official coin release which redirects them to the coin specific forum? That is and idea, not many would like it I don't think, but it definitely is an idea, if not a last resort type.

What I prefer would be a child board in the Alternate cryptocurrencies section, like:
Child Boards: Official Threads

In that section, only one official thread from each alt coin would be allowed. The original Alternate cryptocurrencies section would still exist and people could put their related threads there.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: spiderJ on May 09, 2013, 05:57:53 PM
Might be best to have an entire new alts forum and then make seperate child boards on here once the coin's been 'established'.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: gabbynot on May 09, 2013, 06:00:11 PM
Again, this is a Bitcoin forum, not a cryptocurrency forum.  The Alt fans should be thankful they're getting any space at all.

You wouldn't go into a coin collecting forum & demand the mods create sub forums for all the different types of stamp collecting.  

If you want an alt-currency forum, no one is stopping you from creating your own.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: Simran on May 09, 2013, 06:03:55 PM
So you mean, allowing no one to post in the alt currencies section besides the official coin release which redirects them to the coin specific forum? That is and idea, not many would like it I don't think, but it definitely is an idea, if not a last resort type.

+1 needs child boards in alts for recognised alts

Who decides what the recognized alts are? And what is the definition of a recognized alt?

Smiley, please read my thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200201

I think the majority of the users should poll what alt should be allowed in this main subforum.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: SaltySpitoon on May 09, 2013, 06:27:40 PM
Its 100% not going to happen, sorry guys, it wasn't my decision, but I still don't personally support child boards for each coin even if it was mine to make. There would be 50 new sections that would need to go up daily, and then when an alt coin dies, it would need to be removed, etc etc.

This is the Bitcoin forum with an Altcoin subsection. Its not really designed, or meant to be the official place to be for alt coins. That would be the individual coin's forums.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: digitalindustry on May 09, 2013, 06:36:54 PM
Instead of stupid rules or banning things or dumb votes why not just a Cryptocurrency Forum of its own:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200327.0

+ 1 if you agree

take the innovative ideas there, obviously (Ha HA) Bitcoin supporters have no interest in seeing innovation take off in an Alternative that is is not SHA-256 (that is understandable )

so why not take the innovation off the forum .

or slowly die of spam, with our hands tied?



Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: iCEBREAKER on May 09, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
Again, this is a Bitcoin forum, not a cryptocurrency forum.  The Alt fans should be thankful they're getting any space at all.

You wouldn't go into a coin collecting forum & demand the mods create sub forums for all the different types of stamp collecting.  

If you want an alt-currency forum, no one is stopping you from creating your own.

Pardon me, but we've been discussing Namecoin on this forum since Satoshi was calling it BitDNS or whatever.

Coins:Stamps::Bitcoins:Altcoins?  What an atrociously bad, logically deficient syllogism.

Bitcoin and Bitcoin-like virtual cryptocurrencies are all Satosh's children.

At what point did we decide only his first born was worth of our attention and the rest should be confined to the "alternate" coin ghetto?

Litecoin?  That's just Bitcoin's crazy cousin.  We keep him locked up in the basement, even lower on the menu than Off-Topic.

Namecoin?  Well, Namecoin is Bitcoin's little sister so we let her run around, because she's got development problems and doesn't hurt anything.   ::)


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: gabbynot on May 09, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
Again, this is a Bitcoin forum, not a cryptocurrency forum.  The Alt fans should be thankful they're getting any space at all.

You wouldn't go into a coin collecting forum & demand the mods create sub forums for all the different types of stamp collecting. 

If you want an alt-currency forum, no one is stopping you from creating your own.

Pardon me, but we've been discussing Namecoin on this forum since Satoshi was calling it BitDNS or whatever.

Coins:Stamps::Bitcoins:Altcoins?  What an atrociously bad, logically deficient syllogism.

Bitcoin and Bitcoin-like virtual cryptocurrencies are all Satosh's children.

At what point did we decide only his first born was worth of our attention and the rest should be confined to the "alternate" coin ghetto?

Litecoin?  That's just Bitcoin's crazy cousin.  We keep him locked up in the basement, even lower on the menu than Off-Topic.

Namecoin?  Well, Namecoin is Bitcoin's little sister so we let her run around, because she's got development problems and doesn't hurt anything.   ::)


This is bitcointalk.org, not cryptocurrency.org or altcurrency.org.  Not sure how to make it any simpler for you.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: mr_random on May 09, 2013, 06:55:42 PM
Just put all the trading topics and giveaways in a separate sub-forum. Straight away that is a big chunk of the 'non-content' topics taken care of in a fair way.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: malevolent on May 09, 2013, 07:04:55 PM
Just put all the trading topics and giveaways in a separate sub-forum. Straight away that is a big chunk of the 'non-content' topics taken care of in a fair way.

+1

Although todays active topics run 7 pages deep, the altcoins' user base is very little and very new - not really established. As SaltySpitoon noticed a lot of the newly created boards dedicated to the new altcoins would be sooner or later dead - as most altcoins are only popular for a few days weeks of (p/h)ump & dumping.

Just separating trading, contests, giveaways etc. from the rest would be enough.

If enough people really want a separate subforum/child forum for their altcoin they might as well chip in $50 for a domain and hosting for a year for a forum dedicated to their altcoin.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: cdog on May 09, 2013, 07:05:55 PM
Its 100% not going to happen, sorry guys, it wasn't my decision, but I still don't personally support child boards for each coin even if it was mine to make. There would be 50 new sections that would need to go up daily, and then when an alt coin dies, it would need to be removed, etc etc.

This is the Bitcoin forum with an Altcoin subsection. Its not really designed, or meant to be the official place to be for alt coins. That would be the individual coin's forums.

Well, I guess on a certain level this is OK. Because this subforum is so broken its unusable anymore (5+ pages per day), people will be FORCED into going to the Litecoin forums (https://forum.litecoin.net/), the forums for the alt-mining pools, and other various forums dedicated to other alts or related subjects.

Its going to be an evolution by necessity. If BTCT is the Gox of crypto discussion, its centralization is obviously a huge problem and we need to evolve sooner rather than later, so I for one support letting this subforum nuke itself into oblivion.



Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: d5000 on May 09, 2013, 10:56:17 PM
I support the idea of child boards, but not one per currency.

Better thematic forums, like some people have proposed:

- an altcoin trading subforum
- an "Announcement" & "Giveaway" subforum for new coins and faucets


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: iCEBREAKER on May 09, 2013, 11:18:09 PM
This is bitcointalk.org, not cryptocurrency.org or altcurrency.org.  Not sure how to make it any simpler for you.

You don't need to make it "any simpler" for me (I've been here longer than you have, simpleton).

I know what the name of the site is.  Not sure why you think that pointing out an undisputed, obvious fact is some kind of amazing, debate-clinching argument.   ???

Namecoin has been around about as long as Bitcoin and is still openly discussed in the main forum.  Must we change the name to BitcoinAndNamecoinTalk?  According to your simpleton logic, yes we should.   ;)

Bitcoin is both a kind of new technology and a specific (first) instance of that technology, so it's perfectly appropriate to discuss all variations on this forum.

I'm sorry if such complex ideas don't fit into your tiny, simplicity-seeking shell of a head thing.

Coins:Stamps::Bitcoins:Altcoins?  Pfft.  What idiocy!   ::)


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: gabbynot on May 09, 2013, 11:33:52 PM
Take a deep breath.  Sounds like you're having a pretty rough day & takings things a bit too seriously.  Sorry you got so wound up in the coin collecting / stamp collecting thing.

Anyways...just a heads up:  Namecoin does have it's own forum.  Lots of other alts do too.  No one is stopping you or anyone from starting up an alt-cryto forum.  There's just no need for Bitcointalk to cater to every single scam-coin-of-the-day.



Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: ilostcoins on May 09, 2013, 11:42:50 PM
I agree this alt-coin board is overcrowded and need more structure.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: iCEBREAKER on May 10, 2013, 02:53:49 AM
Take a deep breath.  Sounds like you're having a pretty rough day & takings things a bit too seriously.  Sorry you got so wound up in the coin collecting / stamp collecting thing.

Anyways...just a heads up:  Namecoin does have it's own forum.  Lots of other alts do too.  No one is stopping you or anyone from starting up an alt-cryto forum.  There's just no need for Bitcointalk to cater to every single scam-coin-of-the-day.

I never said someone "is stopping [me] or anyone from starting up an alt-cryto forum."  You are very fond of rebutting claims I didn't make!   :P

Your post is 100% slander and fallacy, containing zero persuasive potential.  Such content-free ad hominem blathering does nothing to help your case.

Again, I've been here longer than you and am very aware of the (other) .bit project focused sites.

You are ignoring the fact, which I pointed out, that Namecoin has always been welcome here, even outside the altcoin prison, in the main forum.

Why was the precedent of support and integration set by NMC changed to altcoin suppression and apartheid?

Because bitcoin:altcoin::coins:stamps?  I didn't get "hung up" on your absurd syllogism, I simply made fun of it for being retarded.   :D

I never advocated for "Bitcointalk to cater to every single scam-coin-of-the-day."  Those are just words you're trying to put in my mouth, in order to create a strawman for you to knock down.  Wow, you're such a hero!  You saved precious princess Bitcointalk from the menace of the Awful Altcoins!   ::)

The only two changes I'd like to see are

1.  Move the altcoin section higher up (to at least above off-topic).

2.  A few basic child boards to improve organization.  One for alt pools would be a good start.  And Litecoin certainly has earned one.

Now please, go back to painting me as some kind of angry, "too serious" person sorely in need of a "deep breath" and "having a pretty rough day."   ;)


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: gabbynot on May 10, 2013, 03:00:11 AM
Now please, go back to painting me as some kind of angry, "too serious" person sorely in need of a "deep breath" and "having a pretty rough day."   ;)

No need for that...you're doing a great job of that yourself.  :)

Have a great day!



Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: justabitoftime on May 10, 2013, 03:27:03 AM
Its 100% not going to happen, sorry guys, it wasn't my decision, but I still don't personally support child boards for each coin even if it was mine to make. There would be 50 new sections that would need to go up daily, and then when an alt coin dies, it would need to be removed, etc etc.

This is the Bitcoin forum with an Altcoin subsection. Its not really designed, or meant to be the official place to be for alt coins. That would be the individual coin's forums.

The owners of this board made it loud and clear that alt currencies is an after thought and doesn't support their prime focus. There's nothing wrong with that, it's private property, they have a right to do with it as they wish. We can bicker among ourselves all we want, the outcome won't change. Sub-boards are not happening, period.

What a wonderful opportunity for someone to step-up and create their own version of the board.


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: gabbynot on May 10, 2013, 03:29:53 AM
Its 100% not going to happen, sorry guys, it wasn't my decision, but I still don't personally support child boards for each coin even if it was mine to make. There would be 50 new sections that would need to go up daily, and then when an alt coin dies, it would need to be removed, etc etc.

This is the Bitcoin forum with an Altcoin subsection. Its not really designed, or meant to be the official place to be for alt coins. That would be the individual coin's forums.

The owners of this board made it loud and clear that alt currencies is an after thought and doesn't support their prime focus. There's nothing wrong with that, it's private property, they have a right to do with it as they wish. We can bicker among ourselves all we want, the outcome won't change. Sub-boards are not happening, period.

What a wonderful opportunity for someone to step-up and create their own version of the board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200641.0


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: justabitoftime on May 10, 2013, 03:59:41 AM
Its 100% not going to happen, sorry guys, it wasn't my decision, but I still don't personally support child boards for each coin even if it was mine to make. There would be 50 new sections that would need to go up daily, and then when an alt coin dies, it would need to be removed, etc etc.

This is the Bitcoin forum with an Altcoin subsection. Its not really designed, or meant to be the official place to be for alt coins. That would be the individual coin's forums.

The owners of this board made it loud and clear that alt currencies is an after thought and doesn't support their prime focus. There's nothing wrong with that, it's private property, they have a right to do with it as they wish. We can bicker among ourselves all we want, the outcome won't change. Sub-boards are not happening, period.

What a wonderful opportunity for someone to step-up and create their own version of the board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200641.0

+1


Title: Re: More child boards...
Post by: iCEBREAKER on May 10, 2013, 06:43:34 AM
Now please, go back to painting me as some kind of angry, "too serious" person sorely in need of a "deep breath" and "having a pretty rough day."   ;)

No need for that...you're doing a great job of that yourself.  :)

Have a great day!

 >:( >:( >:(  OMG I HAS SO MANY ANGRIES NAO!!!    >:( >:( >:(

*takes deep breath*
*has rough day*
*still thinks bitcoins:altcoins::coins:stamps is a stupid syllogism, and that the altcoin ghetto needs more structure*

 :D :D :D