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Title: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: e777 on May 09, 2013, 08:14:16 AM


   I think the two currency will be on  trading platform soon. :)


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: Nolo on May 09, 2013, 08:16:41 AM


   I think the two currency will be on  trading platform soon. :)

Any other thoughts you'd like to share?  What are your thoughts on the current Israel-Syria conflict?  What do you think about the Jodie Arias verdict?  WTF is this?   


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: Hazard on May 09, 2013, 08:16:59 AM
Both have stupid names. But then again I guess BBQCoin did too, and it got on an exchange. Altcoins are a funny business  :D

My vote goes towards RoyalCoin.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: e777 on May 09, 2013, 08:26:41 AM
Both have stupid names. But then again I guess BBQCoin did too, and it got on an exchange. Altcoins are a funny business  :D

My vote goes towards RoyalCoin.

BBQCoin no longer suitable for mining,RoyalCoin may be should wait some time.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: xibeijan on May 09, 2013, 08:30:09 AM
YaCoin is different than the other coins because the intial coins were mined by millions of normal people with CPUs.  Thus, there's already a lot of stakeholders.

As soon as YaCoin is able to be mined with GPUs there will be another wave of stake holders.

This is different than any other altcoin so far.

For this reason I think YaCoin will be valued much higher on the exchanges.  Obviously it will go to an exchange.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: e777 on May 09, 2013, 08:32:55 AM
Agree :)


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: caish5 on May 09, 2013, 08:33:06 AM
YaCoin is different than the other coins because the intial coins were mined by millions of normal people with CPUs.  Thus, there's already a lot of stakeholders.

As soon as YaCoin is able to be mined with GPUs there will be another wave of stake holders.

This is different than any other altcoin so far.

For this reason I think YaCoin will be valued much higher on the exchanges.  Obviously it will go to an exchange.
Or few hundred smart enough to rent amazon clusters.
People like me!


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: pocopoco on May 09, 2013, 08:35:47 AM
YaCoin is different than the other coins because the intial coins were mined by millions of normal people with CPUs.  Thus, there's already a lot of stakeholders.

As soon as YaCoin is able to be mined with GPUs there will be another wave of stake holders.

This is different than any other altcoin so far.

For this reason I think YaCoin will be valued much higher on the exchanges.  Obviously it will go to an exchange.

I will comment the GPU issue here. Yes, it is possible to develop OpenCl or cuda miner for scrypt(N, 1, 1). But the CPU / GPU hashrate difference will be less than 10 times and will decrease over time. So GPU's contribution into miner's total hashrate (even in case somebody will implement this) will be like one or two additional CPU cores. This is because scrypt will need more and more fast random access memory with N increased.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: LOG123 on May 09, 2013, 11:07:05 AM
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Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: xibeijan on May 09, 2013, 11:37:50 AM
YaCoin is different than the other coins because the intial coins were mined by millions of normal people with CPUs.  Thus, there's already a lot of stakeholders.

As soon as YaCoin is able to be mined with GPUs there will be another wave of stake holders.

This is different than any other altcoin so far.

For this reason I think YaCoin will be valued much higher on the exchanges.  Obviously it will go to an exchange.

I will comment the GPU issue here. Yes, it is possible to develop OpenCl or cuda miner for scrypt(N, 1, 1). But the CPU / GPU hashrate difference will be less than 10 times and will decrease over time. So GPU's contribution into miner's total hashrate (even in case somebody will implement this) will be like one or two additional CPU cores. This is because scrypt will need more and more fast random access memory with N increased.


You are obviously a genius.  Based on what you've just said, it sound like YaCoin will be far superior to bitcoin.

I will therefore revise my YaCoin outlook from bullish to mega bullish!  Well done.

A couple more questions:

1) Do you have any plans for an official website and bounties for merchants to start accepting YaCoin?

2) Can comment about the amazingly fast confirmation speeds, especially w.r.t. security and double spend?  I was pleasantly surprised how swiftly YaCoin transactions are processed.  It really makes a huge difference.  In the long-term, I can see YaCoin's fast transactions being a serious advantage for this crypto currency.

3) Finally, there is a very professional looking logo drifting around.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196196.msg2084974#msg2084974    Have you seen it?  Will you adopt it?

Thanks for all your great work.



Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: e777 on May 09, 2013, 11:43:00 AM
A few days later, there will be some different.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: zhaojundong on May 09, 2013, 11:51:46 AM
i think YAC is cool
CPU mining protect more normal person can join the currency


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: e777 on May 09, 2013, 11:54:11 AM
JAC is aslo cool ,i like special blocks.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: bitdwarf on May 09, 2013, 12:00:55 PM
Feels that its about time for people to get tired of new alt coin every day. Its almost like all these garbage coins are having their own mini bubble and about to collapse hard, all it takes it for one new coin to fail completly - almost no miners at all, no thread responses, nothing.

Welp, when a GPU crypto runs out of hype miners point their rigs to one of the other ~12 similar cryptos.

Where are they going to point their CPUs to, tho? ;D


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: xibeijan on May 09, 2013, 12:01:25 PM
YaCoin is different than the other coins because the intial coins were mined by millions of normal people with CPUs.  Thus, there's already a lot of stakeholders.

As soon as YaCoin is able to be mined with GPUs there will be another wave of stake holders.

This is different than any other altcoin so far.

For this reason I think YaCoin will be valued much higher on the exchanges.  Obviously it will go to an exchange.

I will comment the GPU issue here. Yes, it is possible to develop OpenCl or cuda miner for scrypt(N, 1, 1). But the CPU / GPU hashrate difference will be less than 10 times and will decrease over time. So GPU's contribution into miner's total hashrate (even in case somebody will implement this) will be like one or two additional CPU cores. This is because scrypt will need more and more fast random access memory with N increased.

Oh, and one more question.

Does YaCoin also implement long-term power efficiency like ppCoin?  I thought I heard something about it supporting PoS as well as PoW.  If so, can you explain how PoS works and if there's PoS mining, then how do we enable this?

Thanks.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: xibeijan on May 09, 2013, 12:02:19 PM
Feels that its about time for people to get tired of new alt coin every day. Its almost like all these garbage coins are having their own mini bubble and about to collapse hard, all it takes it for one new coin to fail completly - almost no miners at all, no thread responses, nothing.

Noone even tries to create something new anymore, just slap the new name/logo and create the new [ann] thread  8)

YaCoin is quite new and innovative.  It's the only coin to really solve the GPU problem and, thus, level the playing field.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: xibeijan on May 09, 2013, 12:03:12 PM
i think YAC is cool
CPU mining protect more normal person can join the currency

+1 for that.  100% agreed.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: bushstar on May 09, 2013, 12:37:42 PM
YaCoin is different than the other coins because the intial coins were mined by millions of normal people with CPUs.  Thus, there's already a lot of stakeholders.

As soon as YaCoin is able to be mined with GPUs there will be another wave of stake holders.

This is different than any other altcoin so far.

For this reason I think YaCoin will be valued much higher on the exchanges.  Obviously it will go to an exchange.
Or few hundred smart enough to rent amazon clusters.
People like me!

Attention should be paid to the above comment. It occurred to me when people started complaining about the difficulty to mine coins on their decent CPUs, that there would be a few who would be setting up CPU farms which is easier than ever to do in this modern age.

Personally I think YAC is excellent as it has made an attempt to keep the GPU miners at bay and therefore allows more people to join in coin generation. How this pans out over time is another matter that I am keenly watching.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: bitdwarf on May 09, 2013, 12:43:47 PM
Oh, and one more question.

Does YaCoin also implement long-term power efficiency like ppCoin?  I thought I heard something about it supporting PoS as well as PoW.  If so, can you explain how PoS works and if there's PoS mining, then how do we enable this?

Thanks.

Yes, YACoin has NovaCoin's fork of PPCoin's PoS. I'm really tempted to hold all my YACs and trade only the coins from PoS.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: e521 on May 09, 2013, 12:55:09 PM
YaCoin is different than the other coins because the intial coins were mined by millions of normal people with CPUs.  Thus, there's already a lot of stakeholders.

As soon as YaCoin is able to be mined with GPUs there will be another wave of stake holders.

This is different than any other altcoin so far.

For this reason I think YaCoin will be valued much higher on the exchanges.  Obviously it will go to an exchange.

I will comment the GPU issue here. Yes, it is possible to develop OpenCl or cuda miner for scrypt(N, 1, 1). But the CPU / GPU hashrate difference will be less than 10 times and will decrease over time. So GPU's contribution into miner's total hashrate (even in case somebody will implement this) will be like one or two additional CPU cores. This is because scrypt will need more and more fast random access memory with N increased.

1:10 or 1:1.25? Ratios are quire different..

Also considering:

- people already invested big money on GPUs
- you only need 1 miner [mobo+cpu+ram+psu] for 4-6 GPUs

GPU mining will still be more convenient


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: xibeijan on May 09, 2013, 01:34:05 PM
But... GPUs use _way_ more power and produce _way_ more heat.

If it only gives you 1 or 2 more CPUs, then it probably doesn't make sense.

Also, _everyone_ has CPUs, while not everyone has GPUs.

The the YaCoin uptake will be very interesting to see.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: e777 on May 10, 2013, 05:34:55 PM
The difference has come today.
YAC is hot,JKC will raise.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: dreamhouse on May 11, 2013, 12:09:41 AM
we will see  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: Hydroponica on May 11, 2013, 12:51:20 AM
YaCoin is different than the other coins because the intial coins were mined by millions of normal people with CPUs.  Thus, there's already a lot of stakeholders.

As soon as YaCoin is able to be mined with GPUs there will be another wave of stake holders.

This is different than any other altcoin so far.

For this reason I think YaCoin will be valued much higher on the exchanges.  Obviously it will go to an exchange.

I will comment the GPU issue here. Yes, it is possible to develop OpenCl or cuda miner for scrypt(N, 1, 1). But the CPU / GPU hashrate difference will be less than 10 times and will decrease over time. So GPU's contribution into miner's total hashrate (even in case somebody will implement this) will be like one or two additional CPU cores. This is because scrypt will need more and more fast random access memory with N increased.

RAM? My system has 16 GB of Ram, and my 7950 has 3 GB Ram...


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: turtle83 on May 11, 2013, 01:18:59 AM
YaCoin is different than the other coins because the intial coins were mined by millions of normal people with CPUs.  Thus, there's already a lot of stakeholders.

As soon as YaCoin is able to be mined with GPUs there will be another wave of stake holders.

This is different than any other altcoin so far.

For this reason I think YaCoin will be valued much higher on the exchanges.  Obviously it will go to an exchange.

I will comment the GPU issue here. Yes, it is possible to develop OpenCl or cuda miner for scrypt(N, 1, 1). But the CPU / GPU hashrate difference will be less than 10 times and will decrease over time. So GPU's contribution into miner's total hashrate (even in case somebody will implement this) will be like one or two additional CPU cores. This is because scrypt will need more and more fast random access memory with N increased.

RAM? My system has 16 GB of Ram, and my 7950 has 3 GB Ram...

From what ive heard... once the N gets large enough to not fit in L1/L2/L3 caches, at that point GPU will have an advantage cause its memory is much lower latency...

</hearsay>


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: imjson on May 11, 2013, 05:32:45 AM
YaCoin is different than the other coins because the intial coins were mined by millions of normal people with CPUs.  Thus, there's already a lot of stakeholders.

As soon as YaCoin is able to be mined with GPUs there will be another wave of stake holders.

This is different than any other altcoin so far.

For this reason I think YaCoin will be valued much higher on the exchanges.  Obviously it will go to an exchange.
Obviously  YaCoin is a rubbish. Nomal people like me can get any,only botnet can get benefit.


Title: Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC
Post by: clicksmoney on May 11, 2013, 09:41:41 AM
What are your thoughts on the current Israel-Syria conflict?  What do you think about the Jodie Arias verdict?  

She's not dead as Travis is yet but giver her time.