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With the pace of altcoin 'launches' and spam threads where JR members collude to sell/buy new coins to inflate value AND the rampant scamming going on I suggest that we introduce a time/post based requirements for starting new topics.

The forums has gone so quickly downhill the last month that it is all but useless at this point, and it is 95% JR members/N00bs that inflate their post counts with '+1' posts etc.

Can we PLEASE disallow topic creation for accounts younger than at least a month, maybe 200 posts! I think this would do wonders for the overall quality of posts and quickly reduce scamming.

EDIT: Please note that I am not claiming that all JR Members are scammers. All I am saying is that it is obvious that the current 'market' makes it exceptionally profitable to register a flood of accounts and quickly become a JR member solely for the purpose of collusion and scamming. I think we have plenty of evidence that this is happening and we need to find a way to stop it before we really start hurting crypto currency as a whole, not to mention this forum.

You are talking about removing a right from all of the JR Members, solely for an Alt Coin issue.

I think its overdo and its only going to get worse.

Edit: My understanding of junior is noobs who just registered last week, since those are the ones doing most of the scamming.

scam or not? you do not have right to decided it
you think new coin is a scam, other do not think like you, they think it is a opportunity, lmao

Not specifically for the issue of alt coins, but the influx of new members has been massive. A lot of them obviously not reading or abiding by board rules and arriving for the sole purpose of launching alcoins, colluding on sales and scamming people. JR members would still be able to post inside topics as usual etc. I am just getting sick and tired of every board being populated by scams and sale/purchase threads by people that have no idea of etiquette and common sense.

I'm not saying I 'decide' what is a scam or not. But the trend in scam posts and spam is pretty clear, and it is also clear that 90%+ of the responsible are members that registered in the last 30 days.

maybe what we really need are more sub-boards?

Agreed. The rise of new alt coins I think is also influenced by btc-e adding new coins that arent worth anything and giving them a value.... People see this as a opportunity to make some extra money.

Anyhow, you have to be an idiot to participate in 99% of the scam coins that are being launched en masse lately. If people is eager to be scammed... Well, what can we do? So be it.

An opportunity to scam - the only business model here is to be the first one in and the first one out.

Again: you have to be an idiot to participate in this pump&dump schemes.

I am in favor of some reasonable restriction to be put in place.  Not sure that a ban on new posts is the answer, but I agree that some adjustments could be put in place that balance the need for people to post new threads against the overwhelming amount of alt-coin topics.  

I understand that the main purpose of this website is related to BTC but with the recent growth of the alts it might make sense to mature the forum structure under the alt section.  Maybe something like a sub-section for each of the coins and in order to post there the submitter needs to jump through a few hoops first.  I am open to change if it helps organize/improve things a little better.  :)

Agree, people with less than 1 month old account should have post cap per day and not be able to move to full member even if post count exceeds 100. This is not just to fight spam, but also make it easier to tell if someone's account looks fishy and just created for the purpose of scamming.

Maybe what we really need is non-imbeciles that support every new altcoin that appears out of nowhere to support rich-quick scheme.

Hint: I'm now converted and I'm one of those imbeciles that jump to the alt-coins.

Date registered, march 30.

You supported FC which was coin who initiated all this problems you are talking about, and maybe you were supporting CNC too.

So you got the train of FC but dont want the new users to do the same you did.

Only because that topics are 10 days old than the topics you supported you are pissed..

lol this is unbelievable.. scammers acussing other scammers.

that is actually exactly what they are doing , its the old gypsy trick, you might have seen it on "lock stock and two smoking barrels" lol

person1(scammer) - "oh yes i'll take five of those ! "

person2(scammer) - "10 i'll have 10 "

victim - {hmm this must be good i'll buy}

point is but , so what ? that's the market man , people get scammed , no one supports it , and i expect that actually BTer is running the scam that's why they keep adding these "junk coins".

but again as i said, free market,  it will be to the ultimate detriment of the actual exchange , they will hurt themselves and close down not long after, after the scam is over,

again...

so what?

the forum hasn't been affected as i see.

I think you may be misunderstanding me. Sure, I dislike the pace at which alt currencies are created right now but that is NOT my point. I have never scammed anyone, I have never colluded in sales/purchases of any currency and I sure as hell have not spammed the board with 'Trollbox' chatter to inflate any currency. I also consider the idea of being a 'supporter' of a coin sort of strange but that is another discussion.

As callous as it may sound I am actually less worried about people being scammed then the fact that the forum is getting clogged by spam. Just a few weeks ago the first page of each sub-forum used to be interesting. Now it reads like 9gag. I just think it's sort of sad I guess.

Kinda rich from biggest CNC promoter in btc-e trollbox, one that claims that has 130k of them.

http://trollboxarchive.com/search.php?search_type=username&search=TheSwede75

If I remember good, the guy who launched cnc and never looked back had 7 posts when he announced it.


I'll tell you one thing - on the beginning I was very angry on hyper coin production and found it stupid. But after seeing you and others making tons of money on feathers and chinas, I've figured out it's stupid only if I don't make few bucks on them (or if I lose lot).

And that's your single problem with new coins after chinas. More coins, more competition on market so you can't bank as much as you thought you'll do.

But i do agree that inside "Alternate cyyptocurrencies"  there could be a "New coins" section where all these go .

and then leave the front page, that way people could have the front page for ideas.

let them have their scams in that section , just organize it better.

legit [Ann] could go in there as well , but if they are a legitimate idea first then they will have had an idea topic and have broad support instead of just popping out of nowhere, so nothing will be missed.

= no disadvantage to anyone.

what happened to buyer beware.  creating all these rules allows people to be stupid with money.  let stupid people be poor if they want to be.

no problem there , i don't mind saying i'm totally that callous and i don't really care if they get scammed.

see my idea Regarding the [ANN] sub from the front page.

and i agree it had more productive manner on front page before , but that's just organization , free markets don't Ban things !

I do own a ton of CNC and the 'trollbox' on btc-e.com is just that. A Trollbox. I don't consider this forum to be a trollbox and wouldn't like to see it become one. Also a little rich coming from you to criticize me while trading YAK coin om this forum wouldn't you say :)

"Get rich quick schemes" my ass

This is the musical chairs, only purpose is to see who are the imbecills that are left holding the bag. Flash-light ponzi schemes, that's it.

IMO "alternate cryptocurrencies" should just disappear from these forums. It should be wiped out. Let's every alt coin to have their own forums, so at least the "developers" will have to work a little bit more to promote their "get rich quick" schemes.

+1

What the forum is doing now is basically just acting as a promotional channel for all the fly by night schemes hatched by people for quick profit.

Maybe you should take a look in the mirror ::)

Most of your posts are spam and you're a hypocrite too!!!

Actually Two sub boards :

an [ANN]

and

a [Offers]

Because part of the scam is to make fake accounts then send transactions back and forth to each other so most of those "Offering 1k Junk for 1 BTC" are fake as well.

so two sub boards should sort all that out .

: D



just sent that to the Mod +1 if you agree !

+1

I think it's a good start. As mentioned before. I personally couldn't care less if people get scammed, but the spam is just making interesting posts hard to find.

this topic make me remember 2 year ago, when i bought bitcoin @ $5, and then i drop to 2 every one in my family my friend said that i scammed, sell it all, keep as much as i can, but i refused, now they are reget :D

this is very simple

that someone else money, and they are smart enough to know what to do with it, you don't have to worry for them :v

all i see form you post is that you are jealous because you are missing all train

furthermore, they bought it with coin and coin worthless in someway

you said that "quick profit. " do you know what could happen in future, if you don't you can say that

even if you said you are not decided, you are decided now, btw 130k+ cnc of you is nothing =))

internet is tons of junks and i hardly to find things useful in it

I think the sub forum like New Coins or something similar would be a good idea. That way I don't have to wade through all the coin trades and pool announcements to see what new stuff people are coming up with.

Ooh, what digital industry said.

New Coins

Trades

Pools

and then have the main altcoin board be for everything else

Rocks, meet glass house.

re-organization is ok

remove right of other like what you say, go hell boy

Nothing rich from me - I'll trade them any day of the weak if I think I can make money from them. Found them stupid too (and found them genuinely stupid not because of personal financial interest like you do) but when I saw you and others like you making money on them, I figured out that there's absolutely no reason why I should not do the same if there's chance to do it.

You on other side are bitching about new coins last few days from single reason - more coins means more people will buy them and spend less on chinas so you won't sell them easy as you thought on price you thought you'll do.

So STFU finally, you're in no way different than anyone else involved with new coins made by noobs with 10 posts, you own loads of those made by noob with 7 posts who never posted a single post after launching that coin.

You are so cute when you get angry.

You're even cuter when you get owned  ;D

My point exactly. It took terracoins months to get on btc-e.... People that actually buy these new coins must be really out of it. At the end someone will be stuck with holding onto a bunch of worthless coins....

*highfive*  :-*

So you don't deny that you're a piece of scum hypocrite spammer :D

I think I make it pretty clear in the first post that I have never scammed anyone. I generally don't buy or sell coins here on the forum anyway since I don't see a reason when there are exchanges for that very purpose and I consider the risk of getting scammed way to high.

omg you two are the cutest evar! :3

Who said anything about scamming?

EDIT: Since you did bring up the topic of scamming: You believe that these new alt-coins are scams, and you actively participate in dumping them, that makes you a scammer by your own standards, not mine :P

Not that I think anything said in the 'trollbox' really matters, but if you are interested I will inform you that I personally have not sold any of my CNC or FTC yet. In my opinion they both have enough hash rate and adoption that they COULD (not saying they are) be a decent investment especially after the crashes last week. Of course I hope to be able to sell them at some point at a profit, but I don't trade them as often as some people.

I would also like to point out that my point with this post is not to ban or even effect alt coin prices. Just to keep the forum a little cleaner and easier to navigate.

Well, I do believe most new alt coins are designed to be a form of scam. Meaning that the only people to actively be guaranteed a profit are the developers and the people instamining/premining. Especially the new trend of rapidly decreasing block rewards (See. Bitbar and Mincoin). I'm not sure what you mean by 'dumping' them though, I haven't owned a significant amount of any alt coins until I mined and purchased CNC and FTC and those I still own.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200201

My proposal. I think it's appropriate for all the current spam!

You can remove the privilege only on Alternate Cryptocurrency forum, and post as normal on other category.

You may very well be correct. Perhaps child boards are the solution. I also think we probably need more Mods or just harsher and quicker Scam tagging of scammers.

I have been around for over a year and still a JR member, I just don't post very often. I have successful trades under my belt as well.

Not all Jr members may fall into the stereotype you are talking about. I agree with you though that things have went downhill on the forums but the solution could be a combination of items and not just one. Maybe something that factors in age of account, number of posts, and successful trades would work. It is getting to the point where something must be done. Due to the large number of Jr Member scammers people are really on the defense with all JR members.

I agree with this. Jr. Members are real people, not some fake people in some online hierarchy that determines what kind of person they are.

You are bashing new alt-/copycoins every single day. And now you have to admit that you actually own some?! And even better you are stating that they might be a decent investment?  LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

+1

I'm "Jr member".
Father State says: Why not forbid Bitcoin buying?, it's a scam.

Im a Jr. Member. Been here a few weeks, and was a lurker for a while before that. I have no interest in launching a coin, but still want to make topics and posts. Can I please have Mr Piss and Vinegar's (Swede's) permission to post topics now that I have cleared things up? I have a couple of suggestions fro you Swede. If you dont want to mine an altcoin of any type, particularly one created or hyped by a dreaded Jr Member, then don't mine it. Second, try not to bitch so much about everything all the time. Between your posts here and in the btc-e trollbox, it seems like all you ever do is find something to bitch about. Lighten up.

Jr. Member's pls, we know you're normal people. Disregard this thread. It's a terrible suggestion.

Hey! I'm NOT normal! My MOMMY told me that I'm VERY SPECIAL!

Different hierarchy with your mother than this place.