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Title: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: RocketSingh on July 22, 2017, 08:56:25 PM
The Whimper of the Dragon: New Delhi's response has rattled Beijing into 1962 hysteria (http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-the-whimper-of-the-dragon-2510941)

India’s provocation will trigger all-out confrontation on LAC (http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1056783.shtml)

IS CHINA TURNING UP HEAT ON INDIA THROUGH PAKISTAN FLANK AMID DOKLAM (http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/geopolitics/article/2103646/china-turning-heat-india-through-pakistan-flank-amid-doklam)

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/AAEAAQAAAAAAAALOAAAAJGM4YjE2ZDdiLTE0YjMtNGQyMy1hZTZlLTkyNTk0ZmY4ZWFjMw.jpg

http://static.dnaindia.com/sites/default/files/2017/07/22/594976-indiansketchmap.jpg


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Sithara007 on July 23, 2017, 03:55:20 AM
A war will be mutually destructive for both the nations, and I don't think that China especially will be interested in starting another military confrontation at this point of time. China was not happy with Sikkim merging with India in 1975, and they have always tried to create problems in the Tibetan-inhabited regions of India (such as Ladakh, Sikkim, and Tawang).


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: TigerMart on July 23, 2017, 02:57:26 PM
China was not happy with Sikkim merging with India in 1975, and they have always tried to create problems in the Tibetan-inhabited regions of India (such as Ladakh, Sikkim, and Tawang).
India was not happy when China occupied Tibet in 1951 either.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: chixka000 on July 23, 2017, 03:25:28 PM
I don't hate china but they always seems to tell other countries that they are a much bigger country and a much stronger country. They are already bullying small countries and now India? hmm lets see.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Mometaskers on July 23, 2017, 05:31:44 PM
War is bad for business. Why kill your customers? Besides, even if China wins this, I think it would be the most hurt in the long run. For one, it would further ruin its reputation. Almost none of its neighbors have a positive impression of it. Also, a country that is below replacement level birth rate can't afford to lose more people.

I don't hate china but they always seems to tell other countries that they are a much bigger country and a much stronger country. They are already bullying small countries and now India? hmm lets see.

They can probably get away with bullying the Philippines. The country got a almost non-existent navy and it's not sure whether America will honor their mutual defense treaty. India though, that is a different matter. Their army is definitely up to task. Also, what they might lack they make up with - nukes. This would definitely be a painful war for both sides.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 23, 2017, 05:44:07 PM
China was not happy with Sikkim merging with India in 1975, and they have always tried to create problems in the Tibetan-inhabited regions of India (such as Ladakh, Sikkim, and Tawang).
India was not happy when China occupied Tibet in 1951 either.

Are you sure about that? Because when China invaded Tibet, India had refused to support Tibet militarily. Not just India, but none of the world nations were ready to send weapons or other support to Tibet. The invasion occurred just a few years after the end of the WW2, and most of the UN member nations were not ready to get involved in another military confrontation.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: KingCanuck5 on July 23, 2017, 05:49:18 PM
we might, and it would be bad for us


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: iamsolarpowered on July 23, 2017, 05:50:05 PM
no.. it is just speculation.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Nikola95 on July 23, 2017, 07:17:37 PM
They can probably get away with bullying the Philippines. The country got a almost non-existent navy and it's not sure whether America will honor their mutual defense treaty. India though, that is a different matter. Their army is definitely up to task. Also, what they might lack they make up with - nukes. This would definitely be a painful war for both sides.

I agree that India have quite capable army. But nukes are the only reason there won't be any war, only border incidents from time to time. Even when there is lot of equipment close to border from both sides, and when neither side want to ease the situation, I think they will sit to agree some things after some time.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 23, 2017, 07:46:30 PM
They can probably get away with bullying the Philippines. The country got a almost non-existent navy and it's not sure whether America will honor their mutual defense treaty. India though, that is a different matter. Their army is definitely up to task. Also, what they might lack they make up with - nukes. This would definitely be a painful war for both sides.

I agree that India have quite capable army. But nukes are the only reason there won't be any war, only border incidents from time to time. Even when there is lot of equipment close to border from both sides, and when neither side want to ease the situation, I think they will sit to agree some things after some time.

India is having the demographic advantage as well. The Chinese population is ageing, and therefore they may be more concerned about any potential loss of life, while India can easily afford huge number of casualties, since the population is more youthful. But that doesn't mean that any future war will be beneficial for India. The economy will be wrecked in case of a war, and it will take years to rebuild it.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: joebrook on July 23, 2017, 07:53:11 PM
The Chinese are causing troubles everywhere that go and i dont know why they think that they can get away with everything that they do, and with their big land mass, why are they still fighting over small pieces of land. This is exactly what the Japanese were doing prior to the second world war.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Sithara007 on July 24, 2017, 01:35:33 AM
The Chinese are causing troubles everywhere that go and i dont know why they think that they can get away with everything that they do, and with their big land mass, why are they still fighting over small pieces of land. This is exactly what the Japanese were doing prior to the second world war.

They are indulging in bullying, because they know that they can get away with it. They have bullied almost all of the neighboring nations, and have received additional land area by threatening these countries. Even India fought a war against the Chinese almost 5 decades back, resulting in some 40,000 sq.km of Indian territory seized by the Chinese. 


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: chixka000 on July 24, 2017, 01:58:22 AM
War is bad for business. Why kill your customers? Besides, even if China wins this, I think it would be the most hurt in the long run. For one, it would further ruin its reputation. Almost none of its neighbors have a positive impression of it. Also, a country that is below replacement level birth rate can't afford to lose more people.

I don't hate china but they always seems to tell other countries that they are a much bigger country and a much stronger country. They are already bullying small countries and now India? hmm lets see.

They can probably get away with bullying the Philippines. The country got a almost non-existent navy and it's not sure whether America will honor their mutual defense treaty. India though, that is a different matter. Their army is definitely up to task. Also, what they might lack they make up with - nukes. This would definitely be a painful war for both sides.

You are right. Yet china can also use their business for their personal gain and for war. If they will be banning their supply to indian countries it would also be a butthurt for india because if i am not mistaken more than 50% of their products are from china. Not only the philippines but also the other countries from asia were being bullied aside from japan.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Saidmod on July 24, 2017, 07:36:22 AM
The Chinese are causing troubles everywhere that go and i dont know why they think that they can get away with everything that they do, and with their big land mass, why are they still fighting over small pieces of land. This is exactly what the Japanese were doing prior to the second world war.
I think they simply wants to conquer all the land and have fear on them .China is rich country and they have the most advance technologies ,they can also protect their country on wars they are ready on it before they take up actions expanding their lands over the Philippines . I thi k if countries don't take action with that it will be a fear of all country.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: leviathon on July 24, 2017, 08:00:17 AM
The "long-standing" economic and cultural ties between India and China will not be affected due to a standoff between their armies in the Sikkim sector, a Chinese embassy official said Delhi on Tuesday. So I don't think so


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: uacoin on July 24, 2017, 10:01:51 AM
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Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Mometaskers on July 24, 2017, 12:36:00 PM
They can probably get away with bullying the Philippines. The country got a almost non-existent navy and it's not sure whether America will honor their mutual defense treaty. India though, that is a different matter. Their army is definitely up to task. Also, what they might lack they make up with - nukes. This would definitely be a painful war for both sides.

I agree that India have quite capable army. But nukes are the only reason there won't be any war, only border incidents from time to time. Even when there is lot of equipment close to border from both sides, and when neither side want to ease the situation, I think they will sit to agree some things after some time.

India is having the demographic advantage as well. The Chinese population is ageing, and therefore they may be more concerned about any potential loss of life, while India can easily afford huge number of casualties, since the population is more youthful. But that doesn't mean that any future war will be beneficial for India. The economy will be wrecked in case of a war, and it will take years to rebuild it.

This is what I'm trying to say. India can handle a devastating war just because of their population. China would have a hard time recovering from population loss. Remember, they used to have a One Child Policy. Those soldiers are mostly their parent's only child.

Also one reason China is an asshole towards its neighbors in the S China Sea was because it's a vital supply line. If China goes to war with India, India can just go after ships destined for China right as they pass its territory, before they even get anywhere near Chinese bases in the S China Sea.

Another one, China's east may be a long way from the India border, but they'd also have a hard time shipping out their exports if war breaks out unless they can just go north and use routes on the Arctic. Travelling across the Pacific is not economical.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: matuson on July 24, 2017, 12:47:02 PM
I do not believe that such a war is possible. India is booming right now and maybe in the future will make a serious competition to China in the world economy, but to fight them makes no sense. China recently even pursuing a policy of soft power.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: MarbleBoss on July 24, 2017, 09:13:13 PM
"Here is a wish to remind India, do not push your luck and cling to any fantasies"

"Shaking a mountain is easy but shaking the People's Liberation Army is hard"

- Colonel Wu Qian, a Chinese defence ministry spokesman, said today.

Source: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/07/china-demands-india-pulls-troops-border-dispute-170724065132611.html


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: epinay on July 24, 2017, 11:59:20 PM
No, it is just hysteria, nothing else :)
Don't imagine wars, where there are none
p.s. USA - RUSSIA


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Sithara007 on July 25, 2017, 01:24:26 AM
Another one, China's east may be a long way from the India border, but they'd also have a hard time shipping out their exports if war breaks out unless they can just go north and use routes on the Arctic. Travelling across the Pacific is not economical.

Russia has been trying to popularize the Arctic route (known as the Northeast Passage in the maritime dictionary) for quite some time now, but they haven't been very successful with it. Perhaps a future Sino-Indian war may make it happen.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Malsetid on July 25, 2017, 04:13:23 AM
Hopefully it doesn't go full throttle. War is never a good thing for any country. A war with these two who have the most military manpower available would be costly and it is likely that other countries would be dragged to the conflict. China can't intimidate india and i don't think any would budge here. Let's just hope for the best


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Sturdy on July 25, 2017, 07:36:21 AM
I think the war will not happen, maybe just the situation that heats up, if the war happens it will be a disaster in continental Asia


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Mometaskers on July 25, 2017, 11:55:40 AM
Another one, China's east may be a long way from the India border, but they'd also have a hard time shipping out their exports if war breaks out unless they can just go north and use routes on the Arctic. Travelling across the Pacific is not economical.

Russia has been trying to popularize the Arctic route (known as the Northeast Passage in the maritime dictionary) for quite some time now, but they haven't been very successful with it. Perhaps a future Sino-Indian war may make it happen.

Well, within a decade or so, the Arctic would be completely ice-free during the summer so I don't see why Russia and China will not try to use it. In China's case, they can more easily ship exports to North America. 

This early though, it seems the littoral countries are already arm gripping each other for possible resources there and for the routes... just like what's happening in SE Asia.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Palmerson on July 25, 2017, 02:45:24 PM
Another one, China's east may be a long way from the India border, but they'd also have a hard time shipping out their exports if war breaks out unless they can just go north and use routes on the Arctic. Travelling across the Pacific is not economical.

Russia has been trying to popularize the Arctic route (known as the Northeast Passage in the maritime dictionary) for quite some time now, but they haven't been very successful with it. Perhaps a future Sino-Indian war may make it happen.

Well, within a decade or so, the Arctic would be completely ice-free during the summer so I don't see why Russia and China will not try to use it. In China's case, they can more easily ship exports to North America. 

This early though, it seems the littoral countries are already arm gripping each other for possible resources there and for the routes... just like what's happening in SE Asia.
The fact that the Arctic will be ice-free this is not a fact, and as oil production on the Arctic shelf is not as easy as you imagine. Neither Russian nor Chinese have no such technology. The price of oil dropped and production in the Arctic is not profitable. And last there is the delimitation of the territory so in the near future is impossible.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: audaciousbeing on July 25, 2017, 03:41:33 PM
There wont be war. If there is no war between Russia and USA with the series of provocations they have heard and we have seen all over the internet, or the issue of North Korea and USA then there still wont be war because no country can afford the outbreak of war by turning back the hand of time in relation to development especially when it comes war between contemporaries.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: oberotek on July 25, 2017, 04:18:52 PM
I think the USA is gonna fuck right in the ass any regional superpower  ;D


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Warren Buffet on July 26, 2017, 12:35:15 AM
There wont be war. If there is no war between Russia and USA with the series of provocations they have heard and we have seen all over the internet, or the issue of North Korea and USA then there still wont be war because no country can afford the outbreak of war by turning back the hand of time in relation to development especially when it comes war between contemporaries.

Let's not forget Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine. We have witnessed war at our time.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Sithara007 on July 26, 2017, 01:32:41 AM
Well, within a decade or so, the Arctic would be completely ice-free during the summer so I don't see why Russia and China will not try to use it. In China's case, they can more easily ship exports to North America. 

This early though, it seems the littoral countries are already arm gripping each other for possible resources there and for the routes... just like what's happening in SE Asia.

One of the reasons why everyone is keen to use the Arctic passages is that the Egyptians are getting more and more unreasonable and arrogant with the Suez canal. Any ship passing through the Suez has to pay a huge fee, in addition to luxury items as bribes.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Mometaskers on July 26, 2017, 02:31:38 PM
Well, within a decade or so, the Arctic would be completely ice-free during the summer so I don't see why Russia and China will not try to use it. In China's case, they can more easily ship exports to North America. 

This early though, it seems the littoral countries are already arm gripping each other for possible resources there and for the routes... just like what's happening in SE Asia.

One of the reasons why everyone is keen to use the Arctic passages is that the Egyptians are getting more and more unreasonable and arrogant with the Suez canal. Any ship passing through the Suez has to pay a huge fee, in addition to luxury items as bribes.

Haven't heard of this development. But it sure is risky to keep on relying on that canal. I remember Egypt sunk ships in there during some sort of conflict decades ago, forcing ships to go round Africa.


Title: Re: Are we heading towards an Indo-China war?
Post by: Come on! on July 26, 2017, 03:10:00 PM
No war is going to happen if no one is going to start a provocation.