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Title: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 24, 2017, 01:54:05 PM As many of us know he seems slightly unhinged now, his recent spat with me where he refused to allow the community to decide a very simplistic bet. Recently there have been more and more issues with his escrow clients (the most recent one, where he returned the escrow payment to an address the user didn't control..).
His personality put aside, there are multiple risks associated with a single holder of funds. Even DNM's have moved to multisig, so why is Theymos letting OG keep so many BTC? You only need to look @ CET escrow service who are holding funds for an ICO with far more than the forums funds, they are a group of people spread half way across the globe with multiple keys held by multiple people. Personally, I believe that OGNasty is not the man he once was - with his Fanclub seats falling in price quicker than a suicide jumper off a bridge, should the forum still trust this man? Edit - OG sees Multisig as complicated... shame the Dinosaur isnt keeping up with the times. Title: Re: Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Quickseller on July 24, 2017, 02:01:39 PM No. He should not be removed
Title: Re: Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on July 24, 2017, 02:04:59 PM Regardless what I think of OG's most recent behaviour I don't understand why 1 person is still in control of a large amount of funds. 1 of the BTCT fund holders (forgot his name) died/disappeared and I believe those funds were lost. Multisig is a safer way to store the funds imo.
Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: NeuroticFish on July 24, 2017, 02:11:50 PM Your poll is way too unbalanced. I'd chose no, but not for the stated reason.
I've had no issues with him and I was in a signature campaign he managed not that long ago. I have no reasons to not trust him. But that doesn't mean I trust him blindly, I'd never trust blindly anyone. Also I don't understand your problem. This should be Theymos' problem. If he trusts OgNasty, what's your problem with that? TL;DR; No, he should not be removed by user request; it's Theymos' pure decision. Title: Re: Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 24, 2017, 02:13:02 PM Regardless what I think of OG's most recent behaviour I don't understand why 1 person is still in control of a large amount of funds. 1 of the BTCT fund holders (forgot his name) died/disappeared and I believe those funds were lost. Multisig is a safer way to store the funds imo. its not only the forum funds - its the hundreds of BTC that he holds for members as well - he said he has a dead man switch, how do we know if the fail-over person is trusted enough to not run off with the funds? for all we know OG himself might of bought himself a pad in Belize... if the DNM's are using multisig why are more users not requesting it for forum sales? Title: Re: Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Lauda on July 24, 2017, 02:14:35 PM 1 of the BTCT fund holders (forgot his name) died/disappeared and I believe those funds were lost. Multisig is a safer way to store the funds imo. I've suggested this to theymos sometime in 2016. Even though he was in favor of the idea, he still did not do anything about it AFAIK. I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are? Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 24, 2017, 02:15:29 PM Your poll is way too unbalanced. I'd chose no, but not for the stated reason. I've had no issues with him and I was in a signature campaign he managed not that long ago. I have no reasons to not trust him. But that doesn't mean I trust him blindly, I'd never trust blindly anyone. Also I don't understand your problem. This should be Theymos' problem. If he trusts OgNasty, what's your problem with that? TL;DR; No, he should not be removed by user request; it's Theymos' pure decision. good point - i will add an additional no box. But can I ask why you wouldn't prefer people to use a multisig escrow? Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: OgNasty on July 24, 2017, 02:16:23 PM It should now be clear why the sudden rise of attacks against me and fake scam accusations.
Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Wendigo on July 24, 2017, 02:20:13 PM Who do you suggest be the new treasurer/s then?
Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 24, 2017, 02:24:55 PM Who do you suggest be the new treasurer/s then? thats not my decision, thats up to the big boss.. my point is mainly that OG is still hustling for 0.01BTC escrow tips, and running an asset that could be seen by some as a ponzi.. who knows what could happen next, imagine if the SEC got hold of him and he ended up in prison. With multisig there is no single point of failure, the DNM's are more innovative than this forum - maybe we should learn from them Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: NeuroticFish on July 24, 2017, 02:26:02 PM Your poll is way too unbalanced. I'd chose no, but not for the stated reason. I've had no issues with him and I was in a signature campaign he managed not that long ago. I have no reasons to not trust him. But that doesn't mean I trust him blindly, I'd never trust blindly anyone. Also I don't understand your problem. This should be Theymos' problem. If he trusts OgNasty, what's your problem with that? TL;DR; No, he should not be removed by user request; it's Theymos' pure decision. good point - i will add an additional no box. But can I ask why you wouldn't prefer people to use a multisig escrow? This is not about technology and not much about OgNasty either; it's about people minding their own business. If you would be at least donor, you should discuss this issue (if it's really an issue) with Theymos. It's 100% up to him. TL;DR: The answer is already in my post: it's Theymos' decision and I respect that. Just as simple. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 24, 2017, 02:34:53 PM Your poll is way too unbalanced. I'd chose no, but not for the stated reason. I've had no issues with him and I was in a signature campaign he managed not that long ago. I have no reasons to not trust him. But that doesn't mean I trust him blindly, I'd never trust blindly anyone. Also I don't understand your problem. This should be Theymos' problem. If he trusts OgNasty, what's your problem with that? TL;DR; No, he should not be removed by user request; it's Theymos' pure decision. good point - i will add an additional no box. But can I ask why you wouldn't prefer people to use a multisig escrow? This is not about technology and not much about OgNasty either; it's about people minding their own business. If you would be at least donor, you should discuss this issue (if it's really an issue) with Theymos. It's 100% up to him. TL;DR: The answer is already in my post: it's Theymos' decision and I respect that. Just as simple. This is about utilizing the best solution to protect all involved. I agree it is Theymos who has the final say, but If the community wants a more secure escrow service then maybe a new escrow service will become "the most trusted forum user".. the fact that I despise OG and his draconian attitude to situations that arise has led me to question whats so great about Mr Arizona? Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 24, 2017, 06:07:52 PM As many of us know he seems slightly unhinged now, his recent spat with me where he refused to allow the community to decide a very simplistic bet. Recently there have been more and more issues with his escrow clients (the most recent one, where he returned the escrow payment to an address the user didn't control..). His personality put aside, there are multiple risks associated with a single holder of funds. Even DNM's have moved to multisig, so why is Theymos letting OG keep so many BTC? You only need to look @ CET escrow service who are holding funds for an ICO with far more than the forums funds, they are a group of people spread half way across the globe with multiple keys held by multiple people. Personally, I believe that OGNasty is not the man he once was - with his Fanclub seats falling in price quicker than a suicide jumper off a bridge, should the forum still trust this man? Answer: No shouldn't be removed. Agree w/the other poster, your "Poll" is wayyy off. Bias, obvious no need to distort things. Why is this even a post ??? Does this "treasurer control your funds"? :D "unhinged" loool sorry I gotta rofl at that are you serious? lol man "unhinged" is posting all over, lying, faking quotes, posting threats your buddy isoneguy (biggest and funniest melt down I've seen cuz of a failed scam :D) I think you are wrong. I just stumbled onto the Green Project and I am interested. No I'm not an Alt, never been a member etc. Ok: I see your gripe but honestly you could approach it differently. I don't know about your bet. Although, I dislike and don't really trust what you say. Some people think I'm a fair person. So let me ask you: What was the bet? Where can I see this? Pm/Post. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: isoneguy on July 24, 2017, 06:14:51 PM Do you ever find yourself having conversations with yourself in the dark OGnasty? How many alts will you burn over this? If you can't handle $700 properly how are you supposed to handle more than that?
Who's delusional enough to let you hold 49 BTC anyways? Either Theymos is OGnasty or they're brothers or something. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 24, 2017, 06:46:03 PM Do you ever find yourself having conversations with yourself in the dark OGnasty? How many alts will you burn over this? If you can't handle $700 properly how are you supposed to handle more than that? Who's delusional enough to let you hold 49 BTC anyways? Either Theymos is OGnasty or they're brothers or something. Dude FFS stop with the alts shit. The poll is proving the community has lost faith in OG, if you stop throwing accusations people will be more likely to be sympathetic Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Lauda on July 24, 2017, 06:50:09 PM Why is this even a post ??? Does this "treasurer control your funds"? This is a non argument. I was concerned with the safety of the forum funds before practically any interaction with any treasurer. Multisig is practically superior to the current setup in pretty much every way. :D "unhinged" loool sorry I gotta rofl at that are you serious? lol man "unhinged" is posting all over, lying, faking quotes, posting threats your buddy isoneguy (biggest and funniest melt down I've seen cuz of a failed scam :D) I don't think TMAN and isoneguy are buddies. I haven't heard of the latter until he/she/it opened a thread against OgNasty.I see your gripe but honestly you could approach it differently. If I had planned to open a thread regarding forum funds, I would probably have left out any names. Multisig is a no-brainer (funds have been lost in the past). Then there is also this:I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are? Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: isoneguy on July 24, 2017, 07:03:12 PM I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are? It had best not be one person...Shouldn't there be redundancies? Even a simple IT guy can figure that out. I think OGnasty's recent behavior and the fact he's holding large sums of money is a SERIOUS problem. Perhaps the two are linked? Who's dumb enough to give one person that much money without some sort of collateral. How well does Theymos even know OGnasty to let him hold forum funds? oh and multisig, yeah...it's probably secure enough you could build an API around it and use it automated. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 24, 2017, 07:19:06 PM Why is this even a post ??? Does this "treasurer control your funds"? This is a non argument. I was concerned with the safety of the forum funds before practically any interaction with any treasurer. Multisig is practically superior to the current setup in pretty much every way. :D "unhinged" loool sorry I gotta rofl at that are you serious? lol man "unhinged" is posting all over, lying, faking quotes, posting threats your buddy isoneguy (biggest and funniest melt down I've seen cuz of a failed scam :D) I don't think TMAN and isoneguy are buddies. I haven't heard of the latter until he/she/it opened a thread against OgNasty.I see your gripe but honestly you could approach it differently. If I had planned to open a thread regarding forum funds, I would probably have left out any names. Multisig is a no-brainer (funds have been lost in the past). Then there is also this:I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are? buddy was being lax. I'm guilty of laughing so hard. I even shared the failed scam meltdown with others who (shamefully) laughed equally hard. Anyways to the point: Where did these forum funds come from? What are they to be used for? That will help me understand a bit. Because if these funds are "donations" that's a different thing. still cheesing no poem I'm gonna cry til I get one that's as good as yours :D :D Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Joel_Jantsen on July 24, 2017, 07:24:54 PM Had you not tried to make it look like a troll (which I believe you are after throwing personal attacks and baseless accusations against OgNasty since a month I guess) I could have taken your poll seriously.But look,your options are troll itself.
yes - I have had issues with his escrow service - 2 (10%) yes - I dislike his personality - 4 (20%) yes - Multisig is the only way and OG is a dinosaur - 2 (10%) yes - Multisig is the only way - 3 (15%) no - I love him and his loss making asset NastyFans Sir,you need to stop attacking him personally.You know right you're just making a fool out of yourself ? Your previous polls never were in your favour,just like this one. This is about utilizing the best solution to protect all involved. I agree it is Theymos who has the final say, but If the community wants a more secure escrow service then maybe a new escrow service will become "the most trusted forum user".. Who said community wants to replace OgNasty ? I've seen only 2 trolls till date,you and the hammer dude.And guess whaat ? You both don't individually represent the community. :-*Personally, I believe that OGNasty is not the man he once was - with his Fanclub seats falling in price quicker than a suicide jumper off a bridge, should the forum still trust this man? That was a lame punchline either way,yes forum should still trust this man.I will.Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 24, 2017, 07:34:38 PM Had you not tried to make it look like a troll (which I believe you are after throwing personal attacks and baseless accusations against OgNasty since a month I guess) I could have taken your poll seriously.But look,your options are troll itself. yes - I have had issues with his escrow service - 2 (10%) yes - I dislike his personality - 4 (20%) yes - Multisig is the only way and OG is a dinosaur - 2 (10%) yes - Multisig is the only way - 3 (15%) no - I love him and his loss making asset NastyFans Sir,you need to stop attacking him personally.You know right you're just making a fool out of yourself ? Your previous polls never were in your favour,just like this one. This is about utilizing the best solution to protect all involved. I agree it is Theymos who has the final say, but If the community wants a more secure escrow service then maybe a new escrow service will become "the most trusted forum user".. Who said community wants to replace OgNasty ? I've seen only 2 trolls till date,you and the hammer dude.And guess whaat ? You both don't individually represent the community. :-*Personally, I believe that OGNasty is not the man he once was - with his Fanclub seats falling in price quicker than a suicide jumper off a bridge, should the forum still trust this man? That was a lame punchline either way,yes forum should still trust this man.I will.Nice trust rating son... OG is a dinosaur, multisig is too complicated for him... dinosaurs are extinct.. just like OG Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: minifrij on July 24, 2017, 07:55:57 PM I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are? The only living treasurer (other than theymos) is currently OgNasty. paraipan is still holding the forum's Bitcoin, but I don't think I have to say why he isn't relevant. However, the source hasn't been updated in a while so I may be wrong (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155000.0).Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Wendigo on July 24, 2017, 08:00:30 PM I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are? The only living treasurer (other than theymos) is currently OgNasty. paraipan is still holding the forum's Bitcoin, but I don't think I have to say why he isn't relevant. However, the source hasn't been updated in a while so I may be wrong (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155000.0).Is this the deceased guy? I think I have heard the coins he was holding couldn't be retrieved and were lost a while ago. Or am I mistaken? Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Vod on July 24, 2017, 08:01:18 PM The only living treasurer (other than theymos) is currently OgNasty. paraipan is still holding the forum's Bitcoin, but I don't think I have to say why he isn't relevant. However, the source hasn't been updated in a while so I may be wrong (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155000.0). It doesn't make sense that OgNasty would attempt to scam less than a bitcoin when he presumably holds many bitcoins for the forum. :/ If it doesn't make sense, then only religious people will believe it. ;) Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: minifrij on July 24, 2017, 08:03:46 PM Is this the deceased guy? I think I have heard the coins he was holding couldn't be retrieved and were lost a while ago. Or am I mistaken? Yes, paraipan passed away in 2014 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583286.0) while holding 250BTC of the forum's money. He is a practical example of when multisig would be helpful.Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 24, 2017, 08:03:46 PM The only living treasurer (other than theymos) is currently OgNasty. paraipan is still holding the forum's Bitcoin, but I don't think I have to say why he isn't relevant. However, the source hasn't been updated in a while so I may be wrong (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155000.0). It doesn't make sense that OgNasty would attempt to scam less than a bitcoin when he presumably holds many bitcoins for the forum. :/ If it doesn't make sense, then only religious people will believe it. ;) Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Vod on July 24, 2017, 08:14:32 PM What's your thoughts on multisig over traditional escrow?? I will answer this question in the near future. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Quickseller on July 24, 2017, 08:19:27 PM I don't even know who the remaining treasurers are? The only living treasurer (other than theymos) is currently OgNasty. paraipan is still holding the forum's Bitcoin, but I don't think I have to say why he isn't relevant. However, the source hasn't been updated in a while so I may be wrong (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155000.0).Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 25, 2017, 12:28:23 AM Updating my answer to HELL NO he should NOT be removed!!!
I asked about it and no one wanted to answer? Geez I wonder why ::) NONE OF YOU, as far as I can see is on that list. Edit: Not even me is on that list. IF you are NOT a DONOR you do NOT have any say. IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS. This list can be found at: https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html. List of VIP Donators (50 BTC) smart1985 Canaca casascius mndrix Als Pawnshop btcx Brian DeLoach zhoutong Metabank.ru BTC_Bear pirateat40 znort987 jorgen Graet gigavps cryptoxchange BitAvenue Goat Btc4Domains mrbrown 01BTC10 imsaguy cablepair BitcoinBaltar usagi BCB eb3full MemoryDealers augustocroppo buzzdave Dustin D. Trammell a.k.a. I)ruid XMLGold bitconexfoier johnascii Hexadecibel mLiberty lixiaolai TradeFortress List of Donators (10 BTC) Narydu Blitzboom qwk shakaru Lord Fog FNIB Transisto Gyom molecular ribuck edd eldentyrell chunglam DeepBit PMX-67-de DeathAndTaxes copumpkin Matthew N. Wright Jonathan Ryan Owens cbeast reeses coretechs mcorlett bo2573 PatrickHarnett Meni Rosenfeld Boss BadBitcoin Seal organofcorti lonelyminer jarsumarsu bitsforcoins aurumxchange CAcoins gnar1ta$ bccasino BitcoinExchange BrightAnarchist AndyG Kluge lightlord OgNasty wogaut TheBitLLC deego coblee tgmarks zefir Raize PsychoticBoy AniceInovation packet7 tseale Blaztoize ciuciu minimalB bitfoo iSellBitcoins cytokine Jake Fordy nave datafish coinrolls2 vescudero miaviator ShadowAlexey DeaDTerra vasgolova friedcat Otoh ianspain Soros Shorts bg002h ElitePork RustyRyan deeplink zebedee physicist gllen Jutarul ShadesOfMarble muyuu Kris c_k lukasbradley Alwaysmining Arto ztex BlackLilac torac glassuser buybitcoinbycreditcard betbybitcoin Arcurus HorseRider primeasic mah87 bitsalame rpietila aristodemus zeroday pierrejo CanaryInTheMine ajk ASICME.COM Hailong betcointm WhiteyAGM BitBet.com Spondoolies-Tech BitmainWarranty fluffypony Claymore Updated: April 2017 Yeah I read that waste of time thread. Its so OBVIOUS what that thread was another FAILED attempt. Read it for yourself and you will find: Tman has a thing for "cocksucking". I can't even count how many times he kept talking about sucking cock cunts n cum ::) priceless Tman says things and think it's automatically makes it a bet ::) He even starts a "countdown". He also pushes funds to OG and THEN tries to claim he's "self-escrow" ::) THEN TMan wants a vote from the community about the Bet. HE LOST and still kept whining lol fuckin passive aggressive loser ::) Before, I even saw that hot mess, I added YOUR feedback profile as a perfect example. @Gums the escrow guy made some valid points but obviously if it's valid -Tman doesn't wanna hear it. @QS you made valid points props to you. @Lauda I use to think you were impartial, you were not. There is something for you to gain. IF this "multi-sig" has something to do with adding you on it? Never should you be allowed anywhere near that fund. Tman and Isoneguy are not buddies, they are in collusion/associates/they are connected. Attacking & Discrediting OG and THEN trying to get him removed as Treasure lol whatta fuckin joke. Hell I don't even know the full history of ya'll shit. But its obvious OGNasty was chosen for a reason & rightly so. After all this shit tossed at the guy......I TRUST HIM MORE AND YOU ALL LESS. I'm betting I'm not the only one either. On behalf of everyone (not the scammers) THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO PULL THIS SHIT IN THE OPEN :D :D :D This thread is MOOT edit: MY VOTE DOESN'T MATTER BUT LET IT BE MY OPINION. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: isoneguy on July 25, 2017, 12:39:38 AM All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum.
On account that he's such an esteemed member and provides an illegal escrow service for the forum...I feel that's forum business. He also takes advantage of his esteemed position by creating many alt accounts and spamming the forum with them. I want to know what was going through Theymos's head because this schmuck has probably built the habit up over many years. Which would be obvious to anyone worth their salt. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Quickseller on July 25, 2017, 01:38:49 AM All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum. You literally told him to do something and he did exactly that. Before you gave him those instructions he gave you a recommendation as to what to do and you responded with threats. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: isoneguy on July 25, 2017, 02:00:44 AM All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum. You literally told him to do something and he did exactly that. Before you gave him those instructions he gave you a recommendation as to what to do and you responded with threats. He ignored all my previous instructions on how to provide me with money. He mishandled my funds. He forced my hand by only allowing me to choose the thing he wanted me to choose. How the fuck is this even an issue? Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Quickseller on July 25, 2017, 02:23:45 AM All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum. You literally told him to do something and he did exactly that. Before you gave him those instructions he gave you a recommendation as to what to do and you responded with threats. He ignored all my previous instructions on how to provide me with money. He mishandled my funds. He forced my hand by only allowing me to choose the thing he wanted me to choose. How the fuck is this even an issue? By giving him instructions that he followed, you went from someone who might have a claim that he owes you money to someone who used his escrow service. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 25, 2017, 02:33:01 AM All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum. You literally told him to do something and he did exactly that. Before you gave him those instructions he gave you a recommendation as to what to do and you responded with threats. He ignored all my previous instructions on how to provide me with money. He mishandled my funds. He forced my hand by only allowing me to choose the thing he wanted me to choose. How the fuck is this even an issue? By giving him instructions that he followed, you went from someone who might have a claim that he owes you money to someone who used his escrow service. in·san·i·ty inˈsanədē/ noun the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness. "he suffered from bouts of insanity" synonyms: mental illness, madness, dementia; More extreme foolishness or irrationality. -taken from Google Search QS, the guy is nuts you can't talk sense when someone is nuts you say A he says B you say B he says A :D and on and on stop feeding the animals :D Edit to add: I'D LOVE to see this "lawsuit" He'd lose but he aint got shit to lose when they counter sue his crazy ass Hell they may even petition to get that straight jacket out.........let's hope hes not in Everett :D Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Quickseller on July 25, 2017, 02:41:39 AM All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum. You literally told him to do something and he did exactly that. Before you gave him those instructions he gave you a recommendation as to what to do and you responded with threats. He ignored all my previous instructions on how to provide me with money. He mishandled my funds. He forced my hand by only allowing me to choose the thing he wanted me to choose. How the fuck is this even an issue? By giving him instructions that he followed, you went from someone who might have a claim that he owes you money to someone who used his escrow service. in·san·i·ty inˈsanədē/ noun the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness. "he suffered from bouts of insanity" synonyms: mental illness, madness, dementia; More extreme foolishness or irrationality. -taken from Google Search QS, the guy is nuts you can't talk sense when someone is nuts you say A he says B you say B he says A :D and on and on stop feeding the animals :D Edit to add: I'D LOVE to see this "lawsuit" He'd lose but he aint got shit to lose when they counter sue his crazy ass Hell they may even petition to get that straight jacket out.........let's hope hes not in Everett :D Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 25, 2017, 03:10:28 AM All I have to say is that OG ripped me off for $700 and I think that's enough for a lawsuit against the forum. You literally told him to do something and he did exactly that. Before you gave him those instructions he gave you a recommendation as to what to do and you responded with threats. He ignored all my previous instructions on how to provide me with money. He mishandled my funds. He forced my hand by only allowing me to choose the thing he wanted me to choose. How the fuck is this even an issue? By giving him instructions that he followed, you went from someone who might have a claim that he owes you money to someone who used his escrow service. in·san·i·ty inˈsanədē/ noun the state of being seriously mentally ill; madness. "he suffered from bouts of insanity" synonyms: mental illness, madness, dementia; More extreme foolishness or irrationality. -taken from Google Search QS, the guy is nuts you can't talk sense when someone is nuts you say A he says B you say B he says A :D and on and on stop feeding the animals :D Edit to add: I'D LOVE to see this "lawsuit" He'd lose but he aint got shit to lose when they counter sue his crazy ass Hell they may even petition to get that straight jacket out.........let's hope hes not in Everett :D I'm no saint. But, I never said or implied because he is mentally ill he should be treated differently or deserves to be "upset". I've never treated anyone differently OL/RL. I've seen the worst of the worst. You got common sense QS you know he's not upset, he's just trying to play that game ::) If anything he's upset it didn't work :D :D Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Spoetnik on July 25, 2017, 05:22:12 AM Who do you suggest be the new treasurer/s then? theymos.. it's his money no ? No offense Nasty i have nothing against you or your services. If he offers a service and users want to use it then so be it. But i thought of Master-P pretty quick.. you all forget how he ran off with the cash ? :D Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 25, 2017, 07:31:41 AM morning all - interesting to see that the votes are getting away from OG... maybe he isn't quite the power house he once was....
the fact that he says that multisig is just too complicated is worrying to me, surely a professional escrow service would go out of its way to protect its clients money.. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Lauda on July 25, 2017, 07:50:20 AM IF you are NOT a DONOR you do NOT have any say. IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS. That does not make sense.@Lauda I use to think you were impartial, you were not. There is something for you to gain. IF this "multi-sig" has something to do with adding you on it? Never should you be allowed anywhere near that fund. Exactly what did I state which was not impartial? Has someone sent you some false information via PM? Read my posts again. I had suggested multi-sig (obviously not myself, nor OgNasty) to theymos long before I had any direct interaction with TMAN, OgNasty, et. al. or their dispute came into being. I think he used CET as an example of a much safer setup, because we use multi-sig for our major funds. Whether someone wants to endorse or protest CET is not up to me. Switching over from single key holders to a multi-sig setup for the forum funds is a no brainer, in every context.Tman and Isoneguy are not buddies, they are in collusion/associates/they are connected. I know TMAN to a certain extent, and have never heard of the other guy which is why I do not believe they are connected in any way. If two people share the opinion on a certain issue, does that mean they are in collusion? I think not.After all this shit tossed at the guy......I TRUST HIM MORE AND YOU ALL LESS. I'm betting I'm not the only one either. There is a lot more to all of these stories, but most of that was never publicly released. Blind faith has never led to any good. I suggest that you add a grain of salt and skepticism when dealing with, anyone.Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 25, 2017, 09:10:29 AM Updating my answer to HELL NO he should NOT be removed!!! I asked about it and no one wanted to answer? Geez I wonder why ::) NONE OF YOU, as far as I can see is on that list. Edit: Not even me is on that list. IF you are NOT a DONOR you do NOT have any say. IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS. This list can be found at: https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html. List of VIP Donators (50 BTC) smart1985 Canaca casascius mndrix Als Pawnshop btcx Brian DeLoach zhoutong Metabank.ru BTC_Bear pirateat40 znort987 jorgen Graet gigavps cryptoxchange BitAvenue Goat Btc4Domains mrbrown 01BTC10 imsaguy cablepair BitcoinBaltar usagi BCB eb3full MemoryDealers augustocroppo buzzdave Dustin D. Trammell a.k.a. I)ruid XMLGold bitconexfoier johnascii Hexadecibel mLiberty lixiaolai TradeFortress List of Donators (10 BTC) Narydu Blitzboom qwk shakaru Lord Fog FNIB Transisto Gyom molecular ribuck edd eldentyrell chunglam DeepBit PMX-67-de DeathAndTaxes copumpkin Matthew N. 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Its so OBVIOUS what that thread was another FAILED attempt. Read it for yourself and you will find: Tman has a thing for "cocksucking". I can't even count how many times he kept talking about sucking cock cunts n cum ::) priceless Tman says things and think it's automatically makes it a bet ::) He even starts a "countdown". He also pushes funds to OG and THEN tries to claim he's "self-escrow" ::) THEN TMan wants a vote from the community about the Bet. HE LOST and still kept whining lol fuckin passive aggressive loser ::) Before, I even saw that hot mess, I added YOUR feedback profile as a perfect example. @Gums the escrow guy made some valid points but obviously if it's valid -Tman doesn't wanna hear it. @QS you made valid points props to you. @Lauda I use to think you were impartial, you were not. There is something for you to gain. IF this "multi-sig" has something to do with adding you on it? Never should you be allowed anywhere near that fund. Tman and Isoneguy are not buddies, they are in collusion/associates/they are connected. Attacking & Discrediting OG and THEN trying to get him removed as Treasure lol whatta fuckin joke. Hell I don't even know the full history of ya'll shit. But its obvious OGNasty was chosen for a reason & rightly so. After all this shit tossed at the guy......I TRUST HIM MORE AND YOU ALL LESS. I'm betting I'm not the only one either. On behalf of everyone (not the scammers) THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO PULL THIS SHIT IN THE OPEN :D :D :D This thread is MOOT edit: MY VOTE DOESN'T MATTER BUT LET IT BE MY OPINION. you haven't been around that long so you don't know that a number of the people on the donator list turned into scammers.. I am discrediting OG as he decided the outcome of a silly childish bet on his own, he refused to let the community decide on the outcome of the bet - but I put a poll up anyway and he won. If he had chosen to let the community decide we wouldnt be here now talking about it. this led on to me questioning his draconian attitude, the fact his word is the last word - so I started questioning his escrow service - with a few unhappy clients recently and the mooning price of BTC surely it would be better having other peoples funds not tied up in a single point of failure. I supply Servers and Networking IRL - for any half decent business storing data RAID comes into play - lose one disk it doesnt matter, another still has the data... it should be the same with forum members funds and the forum funds.. a single point of failure causes issues IRL and will cause issues here one day. OG could be hit by a bus, be arrested for running a ponzi, have a heart attack - be arrested for kerb crawling, whatever the reason - people with funds in escrow could lose out. That is why multisig is the only safe option. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: isoneguy on July 25, 2017, 10:56:54 AM you're right, I can't afford a lawsuit.
I can't even afford my next meal...I had to eat my previous one from a garbage can. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 25, 2017, 03:39:07 PM you're right, I can't afford a lawsuit. I can't even afford my next meal...I had to eat my previous one from a garbage can. dude calm down with all the crazy.. it doesn't work here... but looking @ the votes here its interesting that more than 50% of users want OG gone and 2 users have had an issue with his escrow.. Multisig is the future yet OG deems it too complicated... I wonder why that is.. Maybe he has already bought the place in Belize.. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: isoneguy on July 26, 2017, 12:16:59 AM Maybe he has already bought the place in Belize.. If that's the case...Then him and I need to chat face to face Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 26, 2017, 12:27:44 AM IF you are NOT a DONOR you do NOT have any say. IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS. That does not make sense.You should know but here it is again - my CAPS or fonts etc are not yelling. Just emphasis. I don't follow "internet etiquette" Well it should go read up on what a "Donation" is. First off, in the USA DONATIONS BELONG TO THE DONEE. They are free to do as they wish with it, burn it, piss on it, whatever the DONEE wants to do. It's NOT YOUR BUSINESS. Lastly, you are not on that list, so you even if you were couldn't ask shit about it. Yet you are sooooooooo concerned about the funds OG holds as Treasurer ::) You are soooooo concerned if he dies the funds are gone. So why the hell do you care? NOT MINE it's NOT YOURS...... @Lauda I use to think you were impartial, you were not. There is something for you to gain. IF this "multi-sig" has something to do with adding you on it? Never should you be allowed anywhere near that fund. Exactly what did I state which was not impartial? Has someone sent you some false information via PM? Read my posts again. I had suggested multi-sig (obviously not myself, nor OgNasty) to theymos long before I had any direct interaction with TMAN, OgNasty, et. al. or their dispute came into being. I think he used CET as an example of a much safer setup, because we use multi-sig for our major funds. Whether someone wants to endorse or protest CET is not up to me. Switching over from single key holders to a multi-sig setup for the forum funds is a no brainer, in every context.::) I already know this forum is hacked ::) as IF I give a shit about this pc I'm on or even seeing anything I do online ::) I already got 1 babysitter, guess your the other ;) I read that entire ordeal over there. IF you were the same "Lauda" I don't think you would of been blatantly impartial (and that's being respectful to you still). The "Lauda" I remember had more sense than interject/imply/get involved. IF anything in that thread it said you were part of an Escrow Team CET? I think. That would of and should of been your only statements in that thread. You didn't have a fight in that, yet put yourself in that. Again, that GUMMS (whatever his name is) guy was pretty much correct. And for being correct he got lambasted by Tmann w/all that cocksucking talk ::). Geez, IF you were my "partner" or "team" lol I'd drop you like a bad habit. You had "suggested" YET this thread exists? I know I know you didn't start this thread Tman did ::) Again, thanks for the suggestion that I wear a coat today. But, when I choose to do as I please and not? I can expect to see Tman starting a thread about it ::) ::) AGAIN IT'S NOT YOUR DAMN BUSINESS WHAT I DO WHAT THEYMOS DOES WHAT ANYONE DOES. WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO even "suggest". OH I suggest you drive the speed limit so you don't get a ticket. Ya ok ::) I will drive and do as I please, thanks for the "suggestion" move along. What you gonna beat me down with your "suggestions" until I do as you "suggest" loooooool Come on man come on ::) ::) Tman and Isoneguy are not buddies, they are in collusion/associates/they are connected. I know TMAN to a certain extent, and have never heard of the other guy which is why I do not believe they are connected in any way. If two people share the opinion on a certain issue, does that mean they are in collusion? I think not.I know you know Tman, I know a lot more than you think ;). You and Tman and that minij (whatever it is I'm not scrolling to find spelling) had a mission ::) just as in this thread just as in that extortion thread too. You wanna dice words? After I'm done here responding, I'll be posting there as well. We can dance. IDK what happened to you between a year ago and now. Honestly? I don't even care -it's NOT MY BUSINESS. But there is a difference in this "Lauda" compared to before. After all this shit tossed at the guy......I TRUST HIM MORE AND YOU ALL LESS. I'm betting I'm not the only one either. There is a lot more to all of these stories, but most of that was never publicly released. Blind faith has never led to any good. I suggest that you add a grain of salt and skepticism when dealing with, anyone.I don't do Blind Faith on anything. I'm not concerned about back stories. I always have skepticism. And YEP after this and what I know I can say I trust him and yes I am going to have a look at the projects offered. That's MY DECISION, no one else's. Again this fuckin thread is a joke ::) let's continue the laughter you're right, I can't afford a lawsuit. I can't even afford my next meal...I had to eat my previous one from a garbage can. LOL 300 bucks in your account and you are eating from the "garbage can" ::) @Tman I don't gotta be around "long enough".........ITS NOT YOUR FUNDS YOU ARE NOT THE DONEE. No one should give fuck if scammers took off with it.......if it was burned to toast marshmallows IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS.....yet you seem to think it is? WHO CARES what OG Thinks about "multisig" who cares if he thinks the moon is made of cheese? Maybe he likes to go Commando WHO CARES and since you do WHY??????? Dude really? that hot mess of a thread that made me get 2 bags of popcorn? You actually pushed funds into his account and tried saying "Oh he's self escrowing" looooooool come on You gonna push funds at me and say I stole them ::) ::) You are really reaching really. You obviously have some sort of mission and let me tell you those with common sense can see right through this bullshit and that's all it is bullshit. Just like your associate eating out of a garbage can ::) ::) Edit: lol aren't you gonna move the funds again? 1E1NpsUue3xfckWeMVgw1jNcDsxhejTt67 it's only a tad above $250 Or you gonna say you still eating out of the garbage can ::) ::) Ahhhhhhhh that is the 1 thing I do like about the blockchain.........it's all there You still left 2.21 0.00085971 in your account 1J58WZ948mo3QCzhpZKWuVgaYvZQ6tjiTF love that scammer fund ya'll get a cut nice ::) Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Lauda on July 26, 2017, 06:52:06 AM You should know but here it is again - my CAPS or fonts etc are not yelling. Just emphasis. I don't follow "internet etiquette" Which is ridiculous. I've questioned several of theymoses decisions, both publicly and privately. I have also suggested several changes, some of which were rejected and others which were accepted. Just because it is "his business", that does not mean that I need to keep quiet. I have not, and do not plan to.Well it should go read up on what a "Donation" is. First off, in the USA DONATIONS BELONG TO THE DONEE. They are free to do as they wish with it, burn it, piss on it, whatever the DONEE wants to do. It's NOT YOUR BUSINESS. Lastly, you are not on that list, so you even if you were couldn't ask shit about it. Yet you are sooooooooo concerned about the funds OG holds as Treasurer ::) You are soooooo concerned if he dies the funds are gone. So why the hell do you care? NOT MINE it's NOT YOURS...... ... I like how you made a 180* and started siding with the least favorable forum members. http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/muppets-kermit-the-frog-drinking-tea-but-thats-none-of-my-business-14081239310.gif?id= These disputes put aside, fact is: Multi-sig is a no brainer and should be implemented (with or without OgNasty). Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 26, 2017, 01:42:12 PM You should know but here it is again - my CAPS or fonts etc are not yelling. Just emphasis. I don't follow "internet etiquette" Which is ridiculous. I've questioned several of theymoses decisions, both publicly and privately. I have also suggested several changes, some of which were rejected and others which were accepted. Just because it is "his business", that does not mean that I need to keep quiet. I have not, and do not plan to.Well it should go read up on what a "Donation" is. First off, in the USA DONATIONS BELONG TO THE DONEE. They are free to do as they wish with it, burn it, piss on it, whatever the DONEE wants to do. It's NOT YOUR BUSINESS. Lastly, you are not on that list, so you even if you were couldn't ask shit about it. Yet you are sooooooooo concerned about the funds OG holds as Treasurer ::) You are soooooo concerned if he dies the funds are gone. So why the hell do you care? NOT MINE it's NOT YOURS...... ... I like how you made a 180* and started siding with the least favorable forum members. http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/muppets-kermit-the-frog-drinking-tea-but-thats-none-of-my-business-14081239310.gif?id= These disputes put aside, fact is: Multi-sig is a no brainer and should be implemented (with or without OgNasty). Don't try that "siding with least favorable members" Am I to assume you mean QS? QS makes good points and I'm suppose to ignore that? Because QS isn't "favorable"? Well that's not how I am or how it is. IF someone makes valid points I will agree with them. If they make invalid points I will disagree with them. I'm sure you can dig up some posts of both and my "agree" and "disagree" can be found with other "least favorable" too. I'm not some kid ::) choosing "sides" like I'm in some schoolyard. Oh he's got cooties stay away lol geez Again, don't try that ::) Don't assume I infer anything either. I believe I'm a direct person. Maybe people want to read differently based on my fonts or :D :o ::) again I don't follow internet etiquette. I never said anyone has to be quiet. I said it's NOT YOUR BUSINESS what someone does with THEIR stuff. You can question, suggest, whatever you wanna call it but: it's not your business. You think my mailman has right to question/suggest to me? For free speech sure say whatever you like. Anything else.......piss off. You want to "suggest" or "question" your kids that's a different story. BUT to think you have a right to an answer or an edit: A suggestion means it happens once and you move on. It doesn't mean you keep "suggesting" until the person/entity does what you "suggest". lol Go tell Mark Z @FB that you "suggest" he __________ or ______ because it's what everyone does. I'd hope he'd kindly say thanks for the info have a good day! And let me remind you of what was said in this thread.......this is because of that ridiculous thread and others as well (lately that I've seen). You can't get into the house from the front door. So you try the back door. Then you try the window. Then you try the chimney. It's really obvious these "suggestions" are nothing more than trying to get what you want. Realize it's not your house and no matter how hard you try to get in, you won't it's NOT yours. But hey if someone wants to let you in ..........that's their choice too! You keep trying to position yourself as if you have a "right" and you don't (only in free speech and that's only in public). You made your "suggestion" it obviously was declined.......move on. Nice pic love Kermit and def coffee. (edit: since I gotta be specific I don't care for tea) . Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Lauda on July 26, 2017, 01:44:32 PM You think my mailman has right to question/suggest to me? False comparison fallacy.You made your "suggestion" it obviously was declined.......move on. Which is a lie. The change was warmly welcomed, and even planned before I've mentioned in my talk with theymos. As with everything that he does, it is just going to take an unusually long time to complete. I have no intention of "moving on" from any beneficial proposals, regardless whether they are denied or not. I do not think you are familiar enough with theymos, otherwise you wouldn't make nonsensical statements such as "say once and move on".Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 26, 2017, 01:59:29 PM You think my mailman has right to question/suggest to me? False comparison fallacy.You made your "suggestion" it obviously was declined.......move on. Which is a lie. The change was warmly welcomed, and even planned before I've mentioned in my talk with theymos. As with everything that he does, it is just going to take an unusually long time to complete. I have no intention of "moving on" from any beneficial proposals, regardless whether they are denied or not. I do not think you are familiar enough with theymos, otherwise you wouldn't make nonsensical statements such as "say once and move on".It's not a fallacy. A fallacy belongs to philosophy and the equations there, IF P then Q, All dogs are brown. Some cats are green. It's used to see if the Argument is valid. A fallacy is stating something like "All Mexicans are brown" or saying "All Black are violent" I'm not gonna rehash my undergrad, but did receive an A in that class. The comparison is not false, it is a comparison. I'm not comparing apples and oranges, although those are both fruits. OK so your "suggestion" change was "warmly welcomed" how many times you gotta "suggest" the same thing? Let alone this thread. I don't care about Theymos , you, or Santa Clause. I care about some one who thinks they have a right and you don't. Thanks for suggesting I buy milk at $2 on sale at X but I'll spend $5 on milk at Y. Move on means your "suggestion" has been noted and that's it. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Lauda on July 26, 2017, 02:02:57 PM It's not a fallacy. A fallacy belongs to philosophy and the equations there.. Which is absolutely untrue.OK so your "suggestion" change was "warmly welcomed" how many times you gotta "suggest" the same thing? I usually had to bring up a single subject several times, over a longer period of time (and this was when I was a staff member). I had only brought this up once (I believe) in 2016.Let alone this thread. Which is not related to me nor my suggestions.Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 26, 2017, 02:08:40 PM It's not a fallacy. A fallacy belongs to philosophy and the equations there.. Which is absolutely untrue.OK so your "suggestion" change was "warmly welcomed" how many times you gotta "suggest" the same thing? I usually had to bring up a single subject several times, over a longer period of time (and this was when I was a staff member). I had only brought this up once (I believe) in 2016.Let alone this thread. Which is not related to me nor my suggestions.Lord, here let me get more specific: The word fallacy is used in Philosophy Equations. The word fallacy is used elsewhere as well. (is that better for you? or am I missing something?) So do you need to be told flat out "NO" in order to have things ended? It is not related to this suggestion. It's an example of how you are "suggesting" something to someone, they don't have to do it. That's the beauty of being a free human. We make our own choices good or bad. UGH edit: gotta get specific, I don't mind, I'd rather be clear. This thread "encompasses" your suggestion of "multi-sig". Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Lauda on July 26, 2017, 02:11:18 PM Lord, here let me get more specific: The word fallacy is used in Philosophy Equations. The word fallacy is used elsewhere as well. (is that better for you? or am I missing something?) Better, but not quite. The comparison was not valid; at least it wasn't an attempted equivalency I guess. So do you need to be told flat out "NO" in order to have things ended? If you disagree with a suggestion/proposal, then you are supposed to say 'no' to it. This has happened before, but not related to the multi-sig one.It is not related to this suggestion. It's an example of how you are "suggesting" something to someone, they don't have to do it. That's the beauty of being a free human. We make our own choices good or bad. Yet nobody claimed that they have to do it. Why are you arguing a point which has not been made (unless I missed someone's post)?Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Joel_Jantsen on July 26, 2017, 02:13:18 PM It's not a fallacy. A fallacy belongs to philosophy and the equations there, IF P then Q, All dogs are brown. Some cats are green. It's used to see if the Argument is valid. A fallacy is stating something like "All Mexicans are brown" or saying "All Black are violent" I'm not gonna rehash my undergrad, but did receive an A in that class. You sure ? I don't think so.The definition you gave applies to some fallacies and it doesn't necessarily cover up the sub-fallacies like The Just Word Fallacy or The Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy. The comparison is not false, it is a comparison. I'm not comparing apples and oranges, although those are both fruits. You could be comparing applies with apples yet committing a fallacy unknowingly...OK so your "suggestion" change was "warmly welcomed" how many times you gotta "suggest" the same thing? Let alone this thread. Excuse me for hopping in the conversation like a uninvited guest but Lauda's thoughts on implementing a multi-sig escrow seems extremely logical. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 26, 2017, 02:19:28 PM Lord, here let me get more specific: The word fallacy is used in Philosophy Equations. The word fallacy is used elsewhere as well. (is that better for you? or am I missing something?) Better, but not quite. The comparison was not valid; at least it wasn't an attempted equivalency I guess. So do you need to be told flat out "NO" in order to have things ended? If you disagree with a suggestion/proposal, then you are supposed to say 'no' to it. This has happened before, but not related to the multi-sig one.It is not related to this suggestion. It's an example of how you are "suggesting" something to someone, they don't have to do it. That's the beauty of being a free human. We make our own choices good or bad. Yet nobody claimed that they have to do it. Why are you arguing a point which has not been made (unless I missed someone's post)?I wasn't trying to compare the products (milk to multisig/security/etc), I was comparing the point. Ok so for you - you need to be told No. I would also say, that would be up to the other person whether or not they even wanted to say no/yes. Because again, you are asking something of someone. They don't have to answer. In my thing of milk: Lauda: Hey I suggest you get the milk thats on sale for $2. Me: either I answer and say thanks but no thanks. Or just stay silent. I don't have to say anything. You see, I gotta big problem with anyone or anything trying to force/"suggest" anyone or anything to do something. (lets not talk about laws or anything as those are different) I'm talking about someone's free will. You have the free will to "suggest" The other has the free will to do nothing/something it's their choice. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 26, 2017, 02:31:50 PM It's not a fallacy. A fallacy belongs to philosophy and the equations there, IF P then Q, All dogs are brown. Some cats are green. It's used to see if the Argument is valid. A fallacy is stating something like "All Mexicans are brown" or saying "All Black are violent" I'm not gonna rehash my undergrad, but did receive an A in that class. You sure ? I don't think so.The definition you gave applies to some fallacies and it doesn't necessarily cover up the sub-fallacies like The Just Word Fallacy or The Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy. The comparison is not false, it is a comparison. I'm not comparing apples and oranges, although those are both fruits. You could be comparing applies with apples yet committing a fallacy unknowingly...OK so your "suggestion" change was "warmly welcomed" how many times you gotta "suggest" the same thing? Let alone this thread. Excuse me for hopping in the conversation like a uninvited guest but Lauda's thoughts on implementing a multi-sig escrow seems extremely logical. Yes, I'm sure about the Philosophy Equations. You use them to learn whether or not something is true or not. I had the worst prof, according to others, but he taught very well. Anyone stating All Mexicans are brown would be wrong. Because All Mexicans are not brown some are white. Maybe you want to just use the word "fallacy" instead of saying (false, lie, untrue, etc) ? Again, I'll get specific: All apples are not the same. (true) Some are Yellow (true) Some are Green (true). Some are Red (true). To say All apples are Green is a fallacy (false). I never said this "suggestion" was illogical. I didn't say it was bad. Don't redirect. I said it's not their business what someone does whether logical, helpful or whatever. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Joel_Jantsen on July 26, 2017, 02:42:53 PM Yes, I'm sure about the Philosophy Equations. You use them to learn whether or not something is true or not. I had the worst prof, according to others, but he taught very well. Anyone stating All Mexicans are brown would be wrong. Because All Mexicans are not brown some are white. I'm afraid you're drifting away from Philosophy/Fallacies at the moment.There is a special subject in Mathematics for the logic you are trying to convey through the above example,it's called Boolean Algebra/Discrete Mathematics.The conclusion we get after applying logic in that case is called Logical Deduction.If that interests you,read more here : https://www.indiabix.com/logical-reasoning/logical-deduction/formulas Maybe you want to just use the word "fallacy" instead of saying (false, lie, untrue, etc) ? Again, I'll get specific: All apples are not the same. (true) Some are Yellow (true) Some are Green (true). Some are Red (true). To say All apples are Green is a fallacy (false). I never said this "suggestion" was illogical. I didn't say it was bad. Don't redirect. I said it's not their business what someone does whether logical, helpful or whatever. I guess I'm missing out on things then. IIRC you meant no one "welcomed" their suggestion hence I laid my cards on the table. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 26, 2017, 03:39:16 PM coming in @ 50% for OG to be removed and 50% to keep OG as treasurer..
guess the porn king isn't as popular as he used to be... Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 26, 2017, 04:21:01 PM Yes, I'm sure about the Philosophy Equations. You use them to learn whether or not something is true or not. I had the worst prof, according to others, but he taught very well. Anyone stating All Mexicans are brown would be wrong. Because All Mexicans are not brown some are white. I'm afraid you're drifting away from Philosophy/Fallacies at the moment.There is a special subject in Mathematics for the logic you are trying to convey through the above example,it's called Boolean Algebra/Discrete Mathematics.The conclusion we get after applying logic in that case is called Logical Deduction.If that interests you,read more here : https://www.indiabix.com/logical-reasoning/logical-deduction/formulas Maybe you want to just use the word "fallacy" instead of saying (false, lie, untrue, etc) ? Again, I'll get specific: All apples are not the same. (true) Some are Yellow (true) Some are Green (true). Some are Red (true). To say All apples are Green is a fallacy (false). I never said this "suggestion" was illogical. I didn't say it was bad. Don't redirect. I said it's not their business what someone does whether logical, helpful or whatever. I guess I'm missing out on things then. IIRC you meant no one "welcomed" their suggestion hence I laid my cards on the table. My online luxury is I don't have to write professionally. I get to be lazy. I'm not drifting away from the Philosophy Equation with the meaning of Fallacy within it. I'm never gonna forget IF P then Q. I'm not a math person, can't comment. I didn't say no one "welcomed" their suggestion. I said it's not their business and its not. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: OgNasty on July 26, 2017, 05:07:34 PM coming in @ 50% for OG to be removed and 50% to keep OG as treasurer.. guess the porn king isn't as popular as he used to be... Well you put multiple votes per user, so let's see how people voted. Discounting the fact that users could vote for more Yes options than No options (sad poll manipulation technique) I still got more votes in support of me. 17 votes for NO. 15 votes for Yes. If you take away the fact that there are more Yes options than No options and users could vote multiple times, deciding to just go with the option that got the most votes... The winner is... NO - OG is better than Multisig Runner up is... no - I love him and his loss making asset NastyFans Thanks for another great poll! Even with an unfair poll and an attack campaign against my reputation, you still can't even pretend like you have the support of the community behind your attacks. Well, you can pretend (see above) but nobody believes you and the more you expose yourself with these weak attempts the discredit me, the more people will see the truth. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: isoneguy on July 26, 2017, 05:08:19 PM How many alt accounts did you use to manipulate that poll?
These disputes put aside, fact is: Multi-sig is a no brainer and should be implemented (with or without OgNasty). I have to agree with you there. Preferably without someone that will damage the value of your money though. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: pearlmen on July 26, 2017, 05:44:52 PM From the response I have read, I understand OP has reasons of making sure the forum purse is deregulated but the way you are going about it, makes its seems a personal vendetta which I am sure quite a number of people are seeing through and for that reason are willingly not supporting and moreover, the poll does not confirms anything if theymos does not support it. It will be a mere academic exercise and test of popularity.
Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 26, 2017, 05:52:47 PM Lots of time left on the poll OG and as it's my poll it's my rules, so I'll decide the winner based on fact. Not something that weighs in your favour.. you know like how you are nastyfans as a $ based asset..
Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Lauda on July 26, 2017, 05:56:06 PM I wasn't trying to compare the products (milk to multisig/security/etc), I was comparing the point. You do not understand the concept that you think you do.Ok so for you - you need to be told No. I would also say, that would be up to the other person whether or not they even wanted to say no/yes. Because again, you are asking something of someone. They don't have to answer. Again, you are arguing something that nobody claimed/that did not happen. Sure, there are things that I haven't received an answer for (theymos ignores a lot of PMs). In this specific case, multisig is the right way to go.You see, I gotta big problem with anyone or anything trying to force/"suggest" anyone or anything to do something. Forcing someone to do anything and suggesting that they do something are very different actions.From the response I have read, I understand OP has reasons of making sure the forum purse is deregulated but the way you are going about it, makes its seems a personal vendetta which I am sure quite a number of people are seeing through and for that reason are willingly not supporting and moreover, the poll does not confirms anything if theymos does not support it. It will be a mere academic exercise and test of popularity. They are both doing things against each other in this "personal vendetta". No surprise there. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on July 26, 2017, 07:20:30 PM So the vote has swung back with over 50% wanting OG to be removed as treasurer of the 500BTC of forum funds... surprisingly more people think OG is a dinosaur than there are votes for loving him and his loss making asset..
Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: isoneguy on July 26, 2017, 08:55:35 PM I'm not for or against anything.
I try to be impartial...really. I just want my money back. >:( Although I have to ask...what does implementing multisig have to do with removing OG as treasurer? Does OG want to be treasurer? I don't think that's a both or neither situation. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Xavofat on July 26, 2017, 08:56:04 PM So the vote has swung back with over 50% wanting OG to be removed as treasurer of the 500BTC of forum funds... surprisingly more people think OG is a dinosaur than there are votes for loving him and his loss making asset.. Steps to creating a biased poll:1. Add double as many options for "yes" as the number of options for "no". 2. Repeatedly use ad hominems throughout the thread and try to mask everything else with ad hominems 3. Imply that by voting "no", you are automatically supporting OGNasty's asset, and that people who run loss making assets are automatically untrustworthy. 4. As soon as the poll is basically 50/50, at least partially made up of people you misled, you show off about it. You're really not making a good case with this. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: mammabitcoin2u on July 27, 2017, 05:50:02 AM Sorry y'all can't look at your posts to respond. No disrespect to peoples opinions. But I'm done this thread is dead.
Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on August 02, 2017, 03:48:22 PM 23 votes for Og and 21 against... wow who would of thought that the forums best escrow would be so unpopular?? I would of thought at least 75% for him.. he aint the hot shit he makes out really is he!
Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: OgNasty on August 02, 2017, 04:28:51 PM the forums best escrow Finally, something we can agree on. :D Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: isoneguy on August 03, 2017, 12:53:14 AM the forums best escrow Finally, something we can agree on. :D that's an insult to better people than you Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on August 03, 2017, 07:39:13 AM the forums best escrow Finally, something we can agree on. :D Sarcasm cant translate into mongoloid or whatever your native tongue is, leave the jokes to the funny people - stick to your amateur porn empire and flying drones... actually - I bet you bought the drone to be a perv on your neighbors.. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: HabBear on August 04, 2017, 06:18:21 AM As many of us know he seems slightly unhinged now, his recent spat with me where he refused to allow the community to decide a very simplistic bet. Oh wait, I remember that argument! That's the one where you created a poll for the community to decide if OG Nasty won a bet with you? The community voted that he DID win the bet, they voted 26 to 18 in favor of OG Nasty. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946142.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946142.0)) If the community voted that OG Nasty won the bet, why would you use that as a reason why the community should vote against him now? Do you have any actual reasoning or logic or facts that indicate that OG Nasty isn't trustworthy enough to continue to be the treasurer? Has his credibility failed recently or are you just looking to get him relieved of his responsibilities for personal reasons? Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on August 04, 2017, 10:03:59 AM As many of us know he seems slightly unhinged now, his recent spat with me where he refused to allow the community to decide a very simplistic bet. Oh wait, I remember that argument! That's the one where you created a poll for the community to decide if OG Nasty won a bet with you? The community voted that he DID win the bet, they voted 26 to 18 in favor of OG Nasty. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946142.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946142.0)) If the community voted that OG Nasty won the bet, why would you use that as a reason why the community should vote against him now? Do you have any actual reasoning or logic or facts that indicate that OG Nasty isn't trustworthy enough to continue to be the treasurer? Has his credibility failed recently or are you just looking to get him relieved of his responsibilities for personal reasons? Og did NOT agree to let the community decide.... I did the poll anyway, if he had agreed to let the community decide I would not of pushed the point. this poll now is about the fact he refuses to consider multi sig, the fact I think he is a prized dick isn't the reason for this poll - that is a seperate issue. 3 people have voted that they have had issues with his escrow service (I was not one of them) if Og was the amazing escrow he made out then the poll would be siding a lot heavier with him. oh - plus you are still a twat... Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: HabBear on August 05, 2017, 03:21:04 AM Og did NOT agree to let the community decide.... I did the poll anyway, if he had agreed to let the community decide I would not of pushed the point. this poll now is about the fact he refuses to consider multi sig, the fact I think he is a prized dick isn't the reason for this poll - that is a seperate issue. 3 people have voted that they have had issues with his escrow service (I was not one of them) if Og was the amazing escrow he made out then the poll would be siding a lot heavier with him. oh - plus you are still a twat... You make no sense. You create a poll to let the community vote who's right. They vote for OG...you ignore it. You create a poll here to let the community vote if OG should be booted. They vote "no" (29 to 12)...you ignore it. Why do make yourself look so dumb so easily? I think you are OG. Yeah, that's it. You're OG Nasty's alt. It's the only explanation for your nonsense. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: Gimpeline on August 06, 2017, 05:11:07 PM Theymos is the owner of the forum, so where he puts his money is none of my business.
What the owner says is the rule. If I don't like it, I can go somewhere else And if theymos say the money stays with OG, then that is where they stay Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: CasioK on August 06, 2017, 06:57:10 PM If theymos trusts someone with his funds then I believe we should respect his decision. I believe doing useless polls just because you had a spat with him, does not makes sense. Why did you earlier never complained for the same ? because your relations were good.
Now just because your issues arises we all should join you ? Plus @ttman you just tried to get more bids by making a false appreciation and acting as two different people, you are lucky you aren't painted dark red as yet. I really have no bad feelings for you and you did just a bad mistake, had you just talked with OG would have solved your issues rather than counter fighting. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: isoneguy on August 08, 2017, 06:50:48 AM Theymos is the owner of the forum, so where he puts his money is none of my business. What the owner says is the rule. If I don't like it, I can go somewhere else And if theymos say the money stays with OG, then that is where they stay Theymos == OGnasty Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on August 09, 2017, 12:35:41 PM Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: isoneguy on August 09, 2017, 10:35:35 PM Maybe I should be forum treasurer. ::)
I've never screwed anyone over on a deal and have always, and continue to...take transactions seriously. I also actually have the time such a position requires. Every escrow that I've ever done for others has also succeeded. OGnasty doesn't even have that track record. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on August 11, 2017, 07:24:33 AM 32/29 OgDogg is still in the lead, but its closer than it was..
must be all the retaliatory Negs he is hitting out with - this bloke is abusing the trust system oh and breaking some serious US Laws.. https://www.amazon.com/Raw-Talent-Mixtape-Various-Artists/dp/B007Q0US0Y track 18 for all those who are interested.. a few of the fanboys of Nasty will have a laugh that the bloke running the asset sounds like a tool. Title: Re: [POLL] Should OgNasty be removed as a forum treasurer? Post by: TMAN on August 17, 2017, 06:27:43 AM forgot about this one - so it looks like only 50.8% of the community think Og is the man to be treasurer.. lots of people voted that dislike him and quite a few have an issue with his escrow service..
amazing - the King of Nasty Og.. maybe it has something to do with him being a prick?? https://i.imgflip.com/1u8d8h.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/1u8d8h)via Imgflip Meme Generator (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator) |
