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Title: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Kprawn on July 25, 2017, 04:00:40 PM
If you know about the battle between Tabaco companies / Governments / Pharmaceutical companies VS eCigarette 

companies, then you will know what I mean. We all know cigarettes are one of the main contributors or causes for a wide

variety of cancers and illnesses and eCigarettes is the possible solution to this problem. { Disruptive technology }

The eCigarette companies has proven that their technology are better and less harmful than cigarettes, but Tabaco

companies, with the help of governments and pharmaceutical companies { nicotine patches & tablets } has started a ALL OUT

war against this technology, because they stand to lose BILLIONS. Some countries have BANNED eCigarettes, because the

Nicotine is harmful to people, but they allow cigarettes that are more harmful. 

Bitcoin is fighting the same kind of battle against paid shills and sinister groups that are trying to destroy it with the spreading

of misinformation and "divide & conquer" tactics.

Will we win this battle against these giants or will we surrender in defeat?  ???

 


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: williamuk on July 25, 2017, 04:07:11 PM
If you know about the battle between Tabaco companies / Governments / Pharmaceutical companies VS eCigarette  

companies, then you will know what I mean. We all know cigarettes are one of the main contributors or causes for a wide

variety of cancers and illnesses and eCigarettes is the possible solution to this problem. { Disruptive technology }

The eCigarette companies has proven that their technology are better and less harmful than cigarettes, but Tabaco

companies, with the help of governments and pharmaceutical companies { nicotine patches & tablets } has started a ALL OUT

war against this technology, because they stand to lose BILLIONS. Some countries have BANNED eCigarettes, because the

Nicotine is harmful to people, but they allow cigarettes that are more harmful.  

Bitcoin is fighting the same kind of battle against paid shills and sinister groups that are trying to destroy it with the spreading

of misinformation and "divide & conquer" tactics.

Will we win this battle against these giants or will we surrender in defeat?  ???

 

Once global behemoths like Axa (100 billion euro yearly income, $1.5 trillion assets) get a foot in the door you know it's nearly over :(


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: webtricks on July 25, 2017, 04:28:29 PM
If you know about the battle between Tabaco companies / Governments / Pharmaceutical companies VS eCigarette 

companies, then you will know what I mean. We all know cigarettes are one of the main contributors or causes for a wide

variety of cancers and illnesses and eCigarettes is the possible solution to this problem. { Disruptive technology }

The eCigarette companies has proven that their technology are better and less harmful than cigarettes, but Tabaco

companies, with the help of governments and pharmaceutical companies { nicotine patches & tablets } has started a ALL OUT

war against this technology, because they stand to lose BILLIONS. Some countries have BANNED eCigarettes, because the

Nicotine is harmful to people, but they allow cigarettes that are more harmful. 

Bitcoin is fighting the same kind of battle against paid shills and sinister groups that are trying to destroy it with the spreading

of misinformation and "divide & conquer" tactics.

Will we win this battle against these giants or will we surrender in defeat?  ???


Nice comparison. But who is trying to destroy Bitcoin?
As far as to my knowledge, countries are stepping forward to legalize it. There are already 3-4 names in list and others trying to find out way. At the same time, there is hardly any country where Bitcoin is officially banned! So we are in win-to-win situation.
Chill bro, there is no war going on. Bitcoin is growing and spreading steadily.  :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: satoshforever on July 25, 2017, 04:43:25 PM
Disruptive technologies will always be attacked. Luckily, most incumbents don't understand Bitcoin well enough to fight it


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: davis196 on July 25, 2017, 04:51:43 PM
I`ve always though that eCigarettes are more harmful than the normal cigars.
Perhaps,this is due to the big tobacco corporations propaganda. ;D
Anyway,smoking is like doing drugs,it`s not healthy.
Compaing bitcoin with drugs is wrong.Using BTC is actually healthy. ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: xskl0 on July 25, 2017, 04:59:41 PM
I should try e-cigarettes


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: ghostunicorn on July 25, 2017, 05:03:04 PM
If you post your thought few years ago, i can agree with your comparison. However, we can see many countries are ready to legalize/accept/regulate bitcoin rather than ban/forbid it and they also acknowledge blockchain technology.
Maybe you should say that some people with power in bitcoin world is trying to take over bitcoin instead ::)

Some Assian countries are accepting bitcoin in legal measures. This never meant that big capitalist american companies will accept bitcoin. They will oppose bitcoin to save their income and cental systems.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Kprawn on July 25, 2017, 05:04:51 PM
If you post your thought few years ago, i can agree with your comparison. However, we can see many countries are ready to legalize/accept/regulate bitcoin rather than ban/forbid it and they also acknowledge blockchain technology.
Maybe you should say that some people with power in bitcoin world is trying to take over bitcoin instead ::)

The battle is just more subtle now... Most people will not even recognise it. The attackers are fighting this in another way. They

know that they cannot stop it, so they changed strategy. They are working on competing technologies and they are introducing

stall tactics to slow Bitcoin down. Once these Alternative technologies are matured, the intensity of the battle will increase. We have not

seen the end.  >:(


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: nejibens on July 25, 2017, 05:07:49 PM
There is some logic in your comparison, reagarding that many banking systems still fear Bitcoin and other crypto currencu, don't support it in any way. Thats like the conflict before between cigarettes and ecigarettes companies. But still using Bitcoin and trading with it is a lot more healthy than smoking :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: kpcian on July 25, 2017, 05:12:30 PM
I really don't agree with you on this issue. in recent times the scenario has been changed, many developed countries are going to take it as a legal currency, I think they have been able to realize their mistake what they thought about Bitcoin. so day by day its popularity is going up and acceptability also increasing at an increasing rate.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: williamuk on July 25, 2017, 05:21:01 PM
Nice comparison. But who is trying to destroy Bitcoin?

The survival of finance giants like Axa depends entirely on projects like bitcoin failing. Bitcoin is big finance's eCigarette

These companies will pressure governments to destroy it unless they can do better and do it from inside at very little cost.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: chutchmcgillicutty on July 25, 2017, 05:22:22 PM
I feel like governments and corporations are going to try to rollout their own competing currencies/blockchains, but are going to fail to gain the same mass adoption b/c people hate them deep down.

Even if they do succeed, BTC is still going to be the base default crypto that all currencies will have to go through


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: orions.belt19 on July 25, 2017, 05:57:30 PM
Cool analogy, but I feel like there is more acceptance of Bitcoin in society compared to  e-cigarettes and it is less popular. It's true that more and more countries are now starting to recognize the presence of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. I do not understand what are the "divide and conquer tactics" being done. So far, I've seen good promotion and awareness for Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. It's a slow process but Bitcoin is increasing popularity little by little.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: eternalgloom on July 25, 2017, 08:19:58 PM
I`ve always though that eCigarettes are more harmful than the normal cigars.
Perhaps,this is due to the big tobacco corporations propaganda. ;D
Anyway,smoking is like doing drugs,it`s not healthy.
Compaing bitcoin with drugs is wrong.Using BTC is actually healthy. ;D
I wouldn't say that Ecigs are more harmful than normal cigarettes, though there hasn't really been enough research done on Ecigs to compare the two.
If you just think logically about it, there are around 250 proven harmful chemicals in regular cigarette smoke, compared to possibly 3 harmful chemicals in ecig smoke. (Nicotine, Propylene glycol and Vegetable glycerol)

I personally don't think this analogy is very good.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: hardforkcoin on July 25, 2017, 08:29:26 PM
You may need to add in sugary drinks/ salty food/ salty snacks/ food with too many preservatives to your list also!

Also get rid of GMO stuff too.

But yes I do agree with you in this. BTC will succeed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: SyGambler on July 25, 2017, 08:38:17 PM
well yeah , but governments are realizing more and more that they can't do much in this situation
now with the legalization and other stuff we are seeing that governments are trying to benefit a little from bitcoin since they can't fight it or end it
anyways we all know that governments only care about money , so never give a damn about what they say


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Farfenkugel on July 25, 2017, 08:44:49 PM
Government is always trying to get his share out of anything. There is nothing they will not try to grab what they can. If they can't it's forbidden to have/consume/smoke :D

Same thing happening with bitcoin, few country's can smell the money they could make when getting involved in to this big pool of users. They can see the vast numbers of people getting scammed and can't resist to have a look, maybe they can learn some new tricks on how to fkc people over in a different way :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Frost on July 25, 2017, 08:49:18 PM
I do not think it's the same thing even though there is little in common with it that is technology. I think times have changed and there will be many people who will support the technology because technology is growing rapidly and through technology we can get good benefits, like eCigarettes have good benefits and bitcoin has a nice profitable.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Adbitco on July 25, 2017, 09:03:15 PM
I don't know whether the comparison of the war between cigarettes and e-cigarette is relevant or not but one thing which I don't agree with is governments or big corporations or companies are against bitcoin. In most of the cases governments want to have regulations for bitcoin but that doesn't mean they are against it same is true for companies with any product they may not have realized the potential of bitcoin yet or maybe they don't find the acceptance of bitcoin to be more profitable but as more and more people are taking interest in bitcoin and becoming part of bitcoin community all the government and companies will be left with no option but to have some regulations for the use of bitcoin and start accepting it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: GOTC on July 25, 2017, 09:10:32 PM
Bitcoin and digital currencies are the undisputed future of currencies. It's a process that has begun and can't be stopped now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Anarchist on July 25, 2017, 09:19:42 PM
If you know about the battle between Tabaco companies / Governments / Pharmaceutical companies VS eCigarette 

companies, then you will know what I mean. We all know cigarettes are one of the main contributors or causes for a wide

variety of cancers and illnesses and eCigarettes is the possible solution to this problem. { Disruptive technology }

The eCigarette companies has proven that their technology are better and less harmful than cigarettes, but Tabaco

companies, with the help of governments and pharmaceutical companies { nicotine patches & tablets } has started a ALL OUT

war against this technology, because they stand to lose BILLIONS. Some countries have BANNED eCigarettes, because the

Nicotine is harmful to people, but they allow cigarettes that are more harmful. 

Bitcoin is fighting the same kind of battle against paid shills and sinister groups that are trying to destroy it with the spreading

of misinformation and "divide & conquer" tactics.

Will we win this battle against these giants or will we surrender in defeat?  ???

 

The medical experts are now seeings all the bad effect that e-cig can bring, it is not really less dangerous than traditional cigarettes as per their studies. On top of that Ecigarettes is a fresh and still young niche to give a judgement about it
It's like Bitcoin it may be a 10 years old currency but still young. There will be always something or someone to fight it


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: cjmoles on July 25, 2017, 10:08:48 PM
Bitcoin is so much more disruptive than those type of concerns....The blockchain technologies cannot be stopped, cannot be regulated, and cannot be compared to any other platform.  The only thing the fiat lovers can do is refuse to give us attention in the main stream media....However, they cannot ignore us for too much longer!  <---- Nope, not with a 100B dollar marketcap and 3B dollar daily volume.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Kakmakr on July 26, 2017, 05:53:11 AM
Someone watched the ground breaking documentary, " A Billion Lives " - [The United Nations' World Health Organization projects that a billion people will die prematurely from smoking this century. In the next 20 years, there will be nearly 1.6 billion smokers around the world. This documentary takes a critical look at the history of smoking, and the corruption that's led to the current situation where safer, healthier alternatives are banned or heavily restricted in most countries.]

I also watched it and think that this too might happen with Bitcoin, if governments decide that it is a threat to their power and control. < I have seen funny videos on Youtube, where custom officials in the US were searching people's luggage for physical bitcoins, because the people wore Bitcoin T-shirts. >  ???  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Ctn on July 26, 2017, 07:05:20 AM
Looks like currently our eCigarette is capturing the whole market and putting down all the financial institutions here (your pharma companies). I'm sure unlike the real world where not everybody is liking the idea of ecigarettes (our bitcoins) it is completely different thing in case of crypto world. Here everyone is into bitcoin and want to be big with it. So I'm sure no one will eat our market real soon.



Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: bs.glory on July 27, 2017, 01:40:35 PM
I agree with you it such a great similarities and lots of comparison for BTC and eCigarettes. The bussiness it shows and the cycle. Merely appropriate to discuss further though. :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Yuhee on July 27, 2017, 01:49:43 PM
If you know about the battle between Tabaco companies / Governments / Pharmaceutical companies VS eCigarette 

companies, then you will know what I mean. We all know cigarettes are one of the main contributors or causes for a wide

variety of cancers and illnesses and eCigarettes is the possible solution to this problem. { Disruptive technology }

The eCigarette companies has proven that their technology are better and less harmful than cigarettes, but Tabaco

companies, with the help of governments and pharmaceutical companies { nicotine patches & tablets } has started a ALL OUT

war against this technology, because they stand to lose BILLIONS. Some countries have BANNED eCigarettes, because the

Nicotine is harmful to people, but they allow cigarettes that are more harmful. 

Bitcoin is fighting the same kind of battle against paid shills and sinister groups that are trying to destroy it with the spreading

of misinformation and "divide & conquer" tactics.

Will we win this battle against these giants or will we surrender in defeat?  ???

 

In terms of functions and effects, e cig really is a great comparison but i think the tobacco for the btc are these online payments. Btc is not that famous yet in paying  but it is rising up from the ranks. But its fortunate that even the enemies can benefit from btc. And i dont think there are people destroying btc but rather making it as an inspiration in creating there own.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Proton2233 on July 27, 2017, 01:51:01 PM
In my opinion not a very good comparison. Electronic cigarettes are not useful for your body and still not know what does more harm to the body regular or electronic cigarettes. Bitcoin brings only benefits and from the rumors, only those who suffer this doubt.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Arindava on July 27, 2017, 02:16:32 PM
I`ve always though that eCigarettes are more harmful than the normal cigars.
Perhaps,this is due to the big tobacco corporations propaganda. ;D
Anyway,smoking is like doing drugs,it`s not healthy.
Compaing bitcoin with drugs is wrong.Using BTC is actually healthy. ;D
I really agree with you .. it is true that when we blow the good will always be confronted by great power,
And the ruler will always make an opinion that he is the most correct ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: johnwest on July 27, 2017, 02:22:47 PM
Bitcoin and digital currencies are the undisputed future of currencies. It's a process that has begun and can't be stopped now.

Many giants have already tried to disrupt the flow of Bitcoin and failed. Because businessmen dont understand the technology behind crypto currencies. Countries are supporting because common man is supporting and started using Bitcoin on their own. I dont think there will be a problem from whales here.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: RomanPetrush on July 27, 2017, 02:35:29 PM
I think that Bitcoin is quite intersting thing, because it will have huge affect on our future lifestyle.
Just like E-cig is harmfull for the regular ones. Bitcoin is harmfull for the regular money system we live right now. But its hard to fight against hidden enemy like crypto currency. But the system can control the devices which provides the access to the crypto currency. In the future may happen, that every access and login through any device will be controled by Government firewall. Bitcoin brings huge changes in 10 years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Peppa2304 on July 27, 2017, 02:44:28 PM
Bitcoin is going to grow up and progress on August 1st.   ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: RomanPetrush on July 27, 2017, 02:48:10 PM
Bitcoin is going to grow up and progress on August 1st.   ;D ;D ;D
It's just like a mantra ;) Any arguments about that? :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Amevalentine on July 27, 2017, 03:08:18 PM
I`ve always though that eCigarettes are more harmful than the normal cigars.
Perhaps,this is due to the big tobacco corporations propaganda. ;D
Anyway,smoking is like doing drugs,it`s not healthy.
Compaing bitcoin with drugs is wrong.Using BTC is actually healthy. ;D
gotcha
so if you have healthy problems, stay away from bitcoins. ;D

If you know about the battle between Tabaco companies / Governments / Pharmaceutical companies VS eCigarette 
companies, then you will know what I mean. We all know cigarettes are one of the main contributors or causes for a wide
variety of cancers and illnesses and eCigarettes is the possible solution to this problem. { Disruptive technology }
The eCigarette companies has proven that their technology are better and less harmful than cigarettes, but Tabaco
companies, with the help of governments and pharmaceutical companies { nicotine patches & tablets } has started a ALL OUT
war against this technology, because they stand to lose BILLIONS. Some countries have BANNED eCigarettes, because the
Nicotine is harmful to people, but they allow cigarettes that are more harmful. 
Bitcoin is fighting the same kind of battle against paid shills and sinister groups that are trying to destroy it with the spreading
of misinformation and "divide & conquer" tactics.
Will we win this battle against these giants or will we surrender in defeat?  ???
We not need to worry.
Truly, this is the technology. technology creating with purpose for better solution in future. Few countries has been legalize it, it is good progress.
Soon or later many country will follow this step, like it or not.
We'll seen after august there will bright future for investor.



Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: darklus123 on July 27, 2017, 03:12:44 PM
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Will we win this battle against these giants or will we surrender in defeat?  ???

 

 I can also say that bitcoin is just like the e cigs. No matter how the country or those giants banned it. People still finds a way to fight for it. We surrender? If you can see the current situation the massive adoption then it already answer your question


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Lunavan on July 27, 2017, 04:17:00 PM
I thought that it is already a success in bitcoin segwit and no split was gonna happened


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: nguyen linh on July 27, 2017, 04:50:53 PM
Comparison with cigarette is ridiculous!!! Bitcoin is helping me in my life but be harmful as cigarette. If you want to said that Bitcoin can make you spend much time as addict cigarette, it is wrong. I use Bitcoin in free time and I still work hard with the main job.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: naidray on July 28, 2017, 06:57:56 AM
Comparison with cigarette is ridiculous!!! Bitcoin is helping me in my life but be harmful as cigarette. If you want to said that Bitcoin can make you spend much time as addict cigarette, it is wrong. I use Bitcoin in free time and I still work hard with the main job.
That’s truly annoying to compare such amazing thing with cigarettes. Cigarettes are doing benefit to the manufacturers only but the case of bitcoins is different. Cigarettes are making people run out of money while bitcoins are helping them to earn decent capital with little hard work to make lives financially stable. It’s really rude to make such comparison.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: prometheum on July 28, 2017, 07:33:26 AM
I should try e-cigarettes

If you are a smoker that hasn't yet then you definitely should, if you can get passed not having the ash tray taste then it might be a winner for you.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Amevalentine on July 28, 2017, 02:45:39 PM
Comparison with cigarette is ridiculous!!! Bitcoin is helping me in my life but be harmful as cigarette. If you want to said that Bitcoin can make you spend much time as addict cigarette, it is wrong. I use Bitcoin in free time and I still work hard with the main job.
yes it should be compared to something good ones, isn't.
cigarette has bad image when people seeking it like drugs. anyways i have met many people who spent most time a day doing trading about bitcoin & trading. i can imagine he very loves about it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: YOYOY on July 28, 2017, 03:09:01 PM
If it does then, then there's another human innovation that can save humanity will be lost, it is just like a story of an iconic inventor Nikola Tesla. Instead giving humans the free energy as it was this multi billion business always make Tesla suffer and they don't want to make it free because of the greediness of money. It was really sad when this kind of inventions are being the one to be gone in this world rather than the innovations that can kill the Earth an human lives. It is the saddening truth.


Title: Re: Bitcoin is a lot like eCigarettes
Post by: Jet Cash on July 28, 2017, 03:14:48 PM
cigarettes, e-cigarettes and vaping are all unhealthy and disgusting habits, and they are intrusive in the lives of others.

Bitcoin is beneficial for the community at large, even if it is toxic for the bankers.